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The state of Wildstar
Wildstar was a game that I followed like a drooling dog, since it was announced. I fell in love with this game more then once and I fell hard.
My Wildstar career came to an end whenever I had to quit my job due to health reasons-(the factory I worked out had extremely harmful effects on me due to me being allergic, almost landed me in the hospital.) So obviously I didn't have the money to play, and struggling to find a new job and scraping by to keep myself in college I could never start back. I now work at a weekend shift factory job and doing college, my schedule is better. I want to get back into Wildstar and I just wanted to ask the MMORPG community how the state of the game is!
I have heard a few horror stories where people say its a total dead game and everything is ruined, but I just wanted to ask, and see if anyone here had a real answer for me, thanks for reading and thanks for replying!
tl;dr is Wildstar dead or no?
In the valley of death I cast a shadow to block out the sun. I am a monster accepting what i?ve become. My faith was drowned in a sea of doubts. Now the thorn littered road its my only way out so I push on. Iron willed. Demonized. Tongue forged in fire. Hate in my eyes. Celestial supremacy replaced with gloom. Inhale aggression and exhale doom
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I played at launch and started playing again a couple days ago. I can't remember why I stopped playing because I had positive memories of the game.
The character I just started is level 10. The population doesn't seem all that different to me than launch. I'm guess that is due to the megaserver. I know the population is much less, but it doesn't feel all that different. I see other players often. There are usually 3-5 players around doing stuff in my area.
I hope that answers your question. If you are looking for the pop at end game then I can't help you.
No, I was just looking for a general population count. Thanks for the input! I am downloading/installing the game as we speak. And you're right I had all positive feelings torwards it, I was just wanting to make sure there was atleast a few people playing.
In the valley of death I cast a shadow to block out the sun. I am a monster accepting what i?ve become. My faith was drowned in a sea of doubts. Now the thorn littered road its my only way out so I push on. Iron willed. Demonized. Tongue forged in fire. Hate in my eyes. Celestial supremacy replaced with gloom. Inhale aggression and exhale doom
Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.
I agree! I have a free 10 day trial, so I suggest looking on your account to see if you have one aswell!
In the valley of death I cast a shadow to block out the sun. I am a monster accepting what i?ve become. My faith was drowned in a sea of doubts. Now the thorn littered road its my only way out so I push on. Iron willed. Demonized. Tongue forged in fire. Hate in my eyes. Celestial supremacy replaced with gloom. Inhale aggression and exhale doom
I'll give it too you straight, as much as I enjoyed the game and wanted it to be a hit, it's pretty much dead. If you are looking to PVE the server population won't be to much of a hindrance, as out of the two NA mega servers the PVE is by far most populated. Last I played all of the PVP guilds had migrated to PVE just to survive.
You'll get optimists coming in telling you how solid the population in and so forth, but it's really not that good to the point I'm surprised they can still pop out new content every 2 months instead of the every month they originall planned for the first year or so after launch.
You will rarely run into other players as you level, it's NOWHERE near launch population for even a single server at launch, but the game is still fun and with all of the updates that have happened since about 6 months ago you'll have al ot of content to tackle if PVE is your thing. Keep in mind the gear you get will still be inferior to dungeon and raid gear when you do the content but it was something to do before I quit.
Long story short, the game is healthy content wise and recovering on life support player wise.
Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.
In the valley of death I cast a shadow to block out the sun. I am a monster accepting what i?ve become. My faith was drowned in a sea of doubts. Now the thorn littered road its my only way out so I push on. Iron willed. Demonized. Tongue forged in fire. Hate in my eyes. Celestial supremacy replaced with gloom. Inhale aggression and exhale doom
I know it's only $15, but if there are thousands of people like me that want to play, but don't want to lose their $15, then I hope they do go f2p. I think a lot of people would come back but are currently leery of trying it only to find the population so low and losing their cash.
I think you are right though Ghrin, eventually I think they will either need to go B2P or F2P. I hate seeing any game fall apart, but it seems they will self destruct without people playing.
Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.
As a huge Warhammer AoR fan, I couldn't stand to see another game Allahu Akbar without even giving a B2P or F2P version a chance. I am still bitter torwards Mythic/EA for their move on WAR.
In the valley of death I cast a shadow to block out the sun. I am a monster accepting what i?ve become. My faith was drowned in a sea of doubts. Now the thorn littered road its my only way out so I push on. Iron willed. Demonized. Tongue forged in fire. Hate in my eyes. Celestial supremacy replaced with gloom. Inhale aggression and exhale doom
Yeah its great all the free to play protesters have ruined pay to play gaming, which imo, is the cheapest way to play and get it all.
People don't want to play because they know few are playing, because everyone is waiting for it to turn into a cash shop casino or pay per content game.
Look I just recently decided to sub up and try the game fir the first time. Its a good game, the questing and leveling is very well done, good production value...and if you can get over the "looks like wow" art its a great looking game.
Typically, in my one full day of playing, ill have seen between one and four other players nearby...which is sad, considering its a publicly known dead pvp mega server and a single pve mega servers with free "transfer at will" service between the two.
Ill be honest here, I blame the dead new player areas (the other people are alts or people who came back and started fresh, not a single 100% new player like me) on the stigma that its going to go free so why bother.
What they need to do is put some sort of guarantee in there, that if it does go free, people who bought the box and did the pay to play, will be given a significant amount of cash shop stuff....admittedly that would more or less be admitting that it is going free and still people would wait.
Sucks because we couldn't just have it like it was 5 or 10 years ago where some were free some were subscription and everyone was happy...no...we had to protest all the pay to play games, trash them, drive people out, then spam their forums with "so whens it going free?"
I cant do free mmorpgs, I have money enough to use the cash shop, and its a feeling of never having the whole game for a price that's far more expensive than a sub...on top of the fact the cash shop gets 90% of dev attention with new must have limited edition gimmicks that make you feel like your losing out if you don't fork over the price of a single player game for the item. Drives me nuts, and after $50-$100 of spending you feel empty about the game.
Anyway, ill probably get a solid month out of the game then go back to non-mmorpgs. Been sad to watch a good gaming genera go down the tubes due to a community that wanted to watch it crash and burn (yes I know mmorpgs got stale, no one innovated blah blah blah....every game that tried to innovate got trashed for it, and you cant innovate to the point its no longer a mmorpg)
Bottom line this game looks like its in deep trouble, considering NCSoft has been known to cut a game down for less crimes than wildstars "tiny population"...lets just hope because its pay to play that the game can survive and not get shut down even with a smaller than typical game population.
I am having fun with the game, its not a game for those that like to press one button and are not ok for dieing because of their mistakes.
Its a hardcore theme park MMO. The difficulty level is much different then compared to a game such as WoW. At the same time being a different type of difficulty then WoW it also feels more open and more options then WoW also, WoW tends to give you one way of downing encounters while Wildstar seems to give you options.
No not totally. If you followed the game much everyone quit in masses mostly because of the end game problems including stringent raid requirements. http://www.reddit.com/r/WildStar/comments/2h4cxs/why_did_a_shitload_of_players_quit/.
Honestly I haven't been following it close enough to know if they have fixed any of it, but I will come back if there are enough players. /shrug
Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.
Yea, that was my memory too. I followed Wildstar's fall quite closely. Dead new player areas were almost never brought up. Most players quit because of end game problemS (note the plural). Casuals quit because at end game there was NOTHING to do but raid, and hardcores quit, some because there was nothing to do after you finished your raid for the time, and others because they couldn't raid due to various gates locking them out or locking out the numbers they needed to raid.
(many quit for other reasons, too. Some couldn't stand the combat system. Some never played in the first place because of the graphic art style. Others quit because the PvP died. Amongst the many MANY reasons why people quit, however, "newbie areas were deserted" was almost never brought up).
The dead new player areas today do contribute to keeping new players from sticking around today, though, I suppose. I wouldn't say it's the only reason but it certainly isn't going to help matters, even if many of the original problems are fixed (not that they necessarily were or weren't).
A couple notes:
I haven't played in several months. How are you making enough platinum if there are not enough players to buy your items on the AH? Just curious if I do decide to come back.
Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.
You're assuming there isn't. The population is far from exploding, but I've never had an issue selling anything.
Only 4 servers? I keep hearing WS has population troubles, but that is kind of shocking. I didn't think it was that bad. They would be better off going f2p to inject new life into the game.
Of course I'm assuming there isn't! The last time I played Warhammer had more players even after it was shutdown!
Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.
Seriously, this mentality is a bit over the top, there are plenty of games with free to play options that arent lumped into those 2 categories.....
Aion, Rift, GW2 (B2P), ESO (B2P), TERA etc....
all of which have free to play with all content unlocked and available with no caps on anything, some of them offer premium subscriptions which give you small bonuses to exp n such if you want to sub and also have cash shops which arent that intrusive and still let you enjoy 100% of them game without having to go ham and spend $100's of dollars a month.
Thank you for the update! You may have nudged me over the fence a bit and I might sub again this weekend. I miss the combat and music.
Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.
Just to clear some stuff up that I was confused with and I thought I would pass on because it might help others. In February I got an email from Wildstar and the subject was "Enjoy 10 days of WildStar FREE to check out our latest patch!", so I thought it was a promotional for a brand new account. It isn't the case. If you played before and canceled you can join back up for free and use your existing characters to check out the changes.
I was surprised that there are more players than I thought there would be, not nearly as some may like, but enough to make the game playable. I haven't really gotten far (started a new Spellslinger and am only on level 8) so I don't know what has changed since I played 5 or 6 months ago.
I'm an old dude and you would think I would be playing something slower like bridge or dominoes, but I really love the action combat in this game. The gameplay, music, and the entire atmosphere screams disaster when you look at it on youtube for the first time, but it is incredibly entertaining. (imho)
Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.
It's a decent game. Unfortunately I was chased off by an overly aggressive and toxic community for daring to suggest the early dungeons needed some tuning to ramp up the difficulty better as some dungeons were face rape at the start and very easy at the end. Of course this meant I was trying to dumb the game down and should go back to WoW according to the community. Getting verbally cussed out by my fellow guild members over Teamspeak for saying the same during a dungeon run was the final straw.
couldnt say how the community is now, but I lost any desire to find out. If my spirit hadn't been broken, I'd probably still being playing because it was fun up to that point.
I'd like to also add that you can skip through the initial newbie ship area of the game at the start. There is a small box on the right hand side of the character creation screen that allows you to skip the tutorial. Sadly, my son told me about this feature after I went through it again! :I I'm not sure if this is something new, but I don't remember it from launch.
Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.