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New music piece released - Terminus
Kilsin
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Check out the latest music piece released by the team!
https://soundcloud.com/pantheon-rotf/protf-terminus
Great job Chris (Joppa) Perkins for creating such an epic sounding piece!
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i'm getting a message from soundcloud that says "sorry, can't find this page"
Yes you are right, we just wanted to announce it for some who may not have heard the interview right through to the end
Chris is doing a fantastic job with the music, that is for sure!
Yeah sorry about that, I tested it when I first posted the link and it worked fine but just then i got the same message too and found some "no follow" message in my link code, so I cleaned it up and it should work now.
Very nice sound! Looking forward to this game. It's good that there will be a game that will have some real content to it. It's about time a quality game came out.... EQ, VG, and Pantheon... old school is back!
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Agreed with Drivendawn - sounds good to me, but to each their own. Although, it's not my personal favorite track they've released yet. And it is meant to sound more "theme-ish" as that's what its being introduced as.
As it is with any creative product or expression, it won't be received or enjoyed the same way by everyone, but I appreciate your feedback all the same.
I would encourage anyone who is interested in the evolving soundtrack of Pantheon to visit our Soundcloud page: https://soundcloud.com/pantheon-rotf - you will also find our Developer Round Tables hosted here and other tidbits related to the game's development.
See you in Terminus!
Creative Director, Lead Game Designer | Visionary Realms, Inc.
Visit the official website of Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen at www.pantheonmmo.com!
I really like it. Nice job!
Care to give an actual example? I'm curious if this is true.
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Are you enabling me, here, Sovrath?
Hmm, an example of bad, synthesized 80s british music for a medieval tv program. How about this...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8uMvUgnpwI
"Good mixture of different musical instruments..." ~ Reklaw
If by "different musical instruments" you mean synthesized computer sounds, sure, it's a good mixture of them.
Look, I'm saying, if you're going to spotlight music, it should be something..."spotlightable"... like, this...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rH-Qw2pbrNk
The music is fine for a kickstarter mmo. If that's what you call "good", more power to you, there's plenty of it out there so you'll have plenty to enjoy. I'm just not one to kneejerk, "ooo that's so gooood", raising false senses of accomplishment, when I don't feel it is. That's neither kind nor productive.
He asked, I answered. Sovrath asked for elaboration, I accommodated. I'm not interested in seeming "trolling", just expressing my opinion. I don't suppose there's much else for me to say here for now.
Is there no limit to what Joppa is capable of?
Very enjoyable piece of music. Looking forward to hear it in game.
It's a good thing you are here to keep us less sophisticated commoners in line.
Think a stronger brass counterpoint would help. An independent part for the brass.
That sucks for game music. It sounds like one piece ends and another beings at 50 seconds. Game music should change when the game designer decides that change fits the situation, not automatically at 50 seconds because some composer thinks it would sound cool.
Hey Adjuvant1,
I guess I should say first, I've been a composer long enough to have the skin necessary to discuss my work in most settings, and have my work discussed in varying degrees of commendation and criticism. You don't need to worry about raising false senses of accomplishment with me. Thanks for bringing an honest opinion to the thread. Certainly, if you don't like the piece, I appreciate your perspective and I enjoy hearing your reasoning. But I feel the need to respond, as you seem to take issue with anyone appreciating this piece of music. Please humor me:
Some things I find interesting about your feedback:
(1) I'm not sure I trust your ability to distinguish live instrumentation vs. sampled instrumentation vs. digital instrumentation vs. synthesizer sounds (specifically because of the Clannad music you referenced)
(2) I'm not sure how familiar you are with Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen, but we are still very early in development. These musical pieces are meant to give those who follow the game a taste of some of the musical themes that are developing - in other words, these are by no means fully finished and polished pieces, largely because the budget is not currently available for live orchestral recordings. Therefore, holding a single, essentially 'demo' piece up to 2 hours of a "Full Deluxe Soundtrack" for a very high budget game, recorded by live orchestra with a high dollar sound engineer and mastering house - it's almost hard for me to understand what you're trying to communicate overall. My only thought would be that you don't believe anything indie, or lower budget, or demo/unfinished should be shown to the public, even within a crowd-funded project that is focused on developmental transparency (which we are).
(3) You don't seem to understand the audience this music is being created for. P:RotF is, in many ways, the spiritual successor to Everquest 1 and Vanguard: Saga of Heroes. In my music compositions for Pantheon, I'm paying careful attention to the music of those games, because people absolutely loved it, and so do I. To add a few examples that are probably more relevant to this specific discussion, have a listen to the main themes of both of those games:
Everquest 1 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PttciaUv9s (this is much more in line with the synthesizer music you were describing earlier - not indicative of the current age of sampled instrumentation that digital composers use)
Vanguard: Saga of Heroes - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t18zWmxaMoI (recorded with live orchestra)
To be clear, the piece Kilsin linked in the OP is not Pantheon's main theme, but these two pieces above represent fairly iconic examples of the music of both games, and the musical 'heart' of what I'm trying to bring into Pantheon's music. I can anticipate the response you would have to both of those pieces of music though, and therefore I'm not sure you appreciate what is going to make a musical soundtrack for Pantheon appropriate and successful.
I appreciate you coming in and linking to the Civilization V soundtrack (which is a masterpiece), but I'm ultimately not sure of what you're trying to communicate, other than to say you don't like this piece of music and in your opinion others shouldn't either?
Creative Director, Lead Game Designer | Visionary Realms, Inc.
Visit the official website of Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen at www.pantheonmmo.com!
That was amazing and I consider it a "filter" to you know flush out certain gamer types. Mission accomplished. So you can bang two rocks together and head back to the cave.
I'm the kind of weird gamer that will log in to a game and travel somewhere just to park myself and listen to the zone music. I did this in EQ - Kelethin comes to mind right away. I did this in WoW - and here Howling Fjord, Wintergrasp would have been the top two. There are some acoustic similarities between Joppa's Terminus and WoWs Howling Fjord - but really only in that they start with solo violins and lead into more complex themes. Actually the Howling Fjord stuff now seems a little boring and repetitive compared to Terminus.
Despite the influences of the music of EQ and Vanguard, I also appreciate that the music I've heard from Pantheon isn't just thematic copies but something unique and, IMO, very engaging. And I think that's pretty important. When you hear the EQ theme, that 's the only thing you will ever think of; doesn't matter how many decades later. Hopefully when we hear the music of Pantheon in 20 years it will be bringing back the same nostalgia and memories.
I have to say I rarely if ever even notice the music in the background of games I play. I suppose in some ways this may be a good thing.
Without a doubt the music I have heard in the Pantheon videos has been the feature that has stood out the most for me.
For me, the music is so well done its actually one of the reasons I am following Pantheon now after some initial skepticism.
Great Job.
Del Cabon
A US Army ('Just Cause') Vet and MMORPG Native formerly of Trinsic, Norath and Dereth. Currently playing LOTRO.
This sounds good-- more as a secondary supportive track though.
Oh I don't think it's as "bad" as that example! That's horrible. I like the start of the OP example.
I will agree with another poster that the change tone in the op's example doesn't quite fit. Having said that, beethoven changed tone all the time so it's ok to change during a "piece".
Though, some of the Civilization music in your second example is absolutely amazing.
Godfred's Tomb Trailer: https://youtu.be/-nsXGddj_4w
Original Skyrim: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/109547
Serph toze kindly has started a walk-through. https://youtu.be/UIelCK-lldo
Wow, that was good. Pretty impressive! I would have normally passed on listening to this because it was, well, posted by someone on this forum. haha I'm glad I heard it. TY OP.
edit: I'm playing Skyrim right now and that would have fit right in.
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