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Tried to get back into MMOs today: It was horrible

UnleadedRevUnleadedRev Member UncommonPosts: 568

1) Renewed my ESO subscription, only to see instantly why I left this game, forced grouping.

2) Logged on to my last month of WoW, decided to do something different, try a 2vs2 arena with my vaunted level 92 Death Knight.

He died instantly.

3) Went to try ArchAge since it is F2P.....it aint....deleted!

4) Tried to install EQ2, it wont install and a bunch of folks are all complaining about this same issue.

5) Tried NOSGOTH...its not an MMO...died instantly.

6) Tried to re-install Neverwinter, forgot my username and password...too much red tape to retrieve and gave up.

7) Looked at Albion....huh...pay money to have the honor of paying an unfinished game in unannounced small time windows..no thanks I will wait.

8) Logged onto Shroud of the Avatar...had to create a new toon yet again...did I mention again? Instantly fell thru the ground. Logged off.

9) Tried Dark Souls: Gave up within 5 minutes -impossibe to play without a console pad.

Soooo, any MMOs that are not money grubbing, unfinished, unless you played from the get go you died, boredom fests?

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  • ElirionLothElirionLoth Member UncommonPosts: 308
    I would recommend Call of Duty.
  • TorvalTorval Member LegendaryPosts: 20,640
    You might try Facebook games. They sound like they might be your speed. You don't have to remember tricky things like usernames and passwords and it's really hard to die. If you like traditional games (card, puzzle, arcade, etc) you could also try Pogo.com. They have an option where you can login with your Facebook account too.
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  • DauntisDauntis Member UncommonPosts: 600

    It reads to me that most of your problems here are, well YOU. You failed at some PvP right off the bat... practice and get better or start a new toon and build up. YOU can't remember your user name and password... who's fault is that? YOU prefer to play a game with a console pad and don't have one... who's fault is that?

    These are hardly issues that you can blame on the games or their companies.

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  • UproarUproar Member UncommonPosts: 521
    Originally posted by Torval
    You might try Facebook games. They sound like they might be your speed. You don't have to remember tricky things like usernames and passwords and it's really hard to die. If you like traditional games (card, puzzle, arcade, etc) you could also try Pogo.com. They have an option where you can login with your Facebook account too.

     

    I'd report you for being rude -- but I know it's not a concern here so will probably get me banned for trying to use them to intervene.

     

    I think his post is the experience of many of us.  It certainly represents an average weekend for me.

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  • UproarUproar Member UncommonPosts: 521
    Originally posted by Dauntis

    It reads to me that most of your problems here are, well YOU. You failed at some PvP right off the bat... practice and get better or start a new toon and build up. YOU can't remember your user name and password... who's fault is that? YOU prefer to play a game with a console pad and don't have one... who's fault is that?

    These are hardly issues that you can blame on the games or their companies.

     

    So who pays you guys?  Curious.  Seems like you working for the MMO-'Man'.  Good luck with that.  The 'Man' will get you in the end too.

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  • UproarUproar Member UncommonPosts: 521

    Anyways, now that I got the reactions out of my system....

     

    It's funny the other guy recommended Call of Duty.  I often find myself jumping into Titanfall (same genre).

     

    At least it is mostly fair.

     

     

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  • NightHaveNNightHaveN Member UncommonPosts: 1,051

    UnleadedRev, while most of the issues are understandable like having problems to restore an account password, the PvP dead instantly because your char is not as good PvP gearded as others (and thats why I said that PvP east model is a fail), I can  only comment about your ESO grouping issue this, which in fact is the same I told my brother  every time this topic comes:

     

    The idea of MMO is to share the world with others, work together to complete certain goals.

     

    If you do not want to group play, then I suggest go back to RPG, 1st Person Shooters, Platforming, Wrestling or Boxing games, because MMO is Not For You.

     

    And no, I don't play ESO, only there in last Beta, so is not that I'm mad because you discarded ESO.

  • rojoArcueidrojoArcueid Member EpicPosts: 10,495

    seems like you dont want to play games, OP. Go for a walk, take a break, do something else for a while. Even non mmos give you reasons to complain for the sake of complaining. Just take a break from gaming.

     

    EDIT: I do agree with the account recovery complain, i have the same issue with NCsoft accounts. But man, you sound burned out of gaming in general.





  • LoktofeitLoktofeit Member RarePosts: 14,247
    Originally posted by Uproar
    Originally posted by Torval
    You might try Facebook games. They sound like they might be your speed. You don't have to remember tricky things like usernames and passwords and it's really hard to die. If you like traditional games (card, puzzle, arcade, etc) you could also try Pogo.com. They have an option where you can login with your Facebook account too.

     

    I'd report you for being rude -- but I know it's not a concern here so will probably get me banned for trying to use them to intervene.

     

    I think his post is the experience of many of us.  It certainly represents an average weekend for me.

    UnleadedRev caught one. 

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  • AmjocoAmjoco Member UncommonPosts: 4,858
    Originally posted by NightHaveN

    UnleadedRev, while most of the issues are understandable like having problems to restore an account password, the PvP dead instantly because your char is not as good PvP gearded as others (and thats why I said that PvP east model is a fail), I can  only comment about your ESO grouping issue this, which in fact is the same I told my brother  every time this topic comes:

     

    The idea of MMO is to share the world with others, work together to complete certain goals.

     

    If you do not want to group play, then I suggest go back to RPG, 1st Person Shooters, Platforming, Wrestling or Boxing games, because MMO is Not For You.

     

    And no, I don't play ESO, only there in last Beta, so is not that I'm mad because you discarded ESO.

    I have to agree, there are a lot of great old rpg's on Steam that the OP may find interesting. I hadn't played Arx Fatalis in years and picked it up for $4.99. It is always good to try different things when you are in a slump.

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  • NightHaveNNightHaveN Member UncommonPosts: 1,051
    People should stop trying to make MMOS easier, and solo, because the idea of that market wasn't that in the first place.  There are a lot of game categories that are designed for solo or coop play, if you don't want multiplayer content, stay away from MMOS.
  • LoktofeitLoktofeit Member RarePosts: 14,247
    Originally posted by Amjoco
    Originally posted by NightHaveN

    UnleadedRev, while most of the issues are understandable like having problems to restore an account password, the PvP dead instantly because your char is not as good PvP gearded as others (and thats why I said that PvP east model is a fail), I can  only comment about your ESO grouping issue this, which in fact is the same I told my brother  every time this topic comes:

     

    The idea of MMO is to share the world with others, work together to complete certain goals.

     

    If you do not want to group play, then I suggest go back to RPG, 1st Person Shooters, Platforming, Wrestling or Boxing games, because MMO is Not For You.

     

    And no, I don't play ESO, only there in last Beta, so is not that I'm mad because you discarded ESO.

    I have to agree, there are a lot of great old rpg's on Steam that the OP may find interesting. I hadn't played Arx Fatalis in years and picked it up for $4.99. It is always good to try different things when you are in a slump.

    I'll second the RPGs suggestion. Lots of great ones out there, and on Steam you can usually get them dirt cheap whenthey are on sale. 

    There isn't a "right" or "wrong" way to play, if you want to use a screwdriver to put nails into wood, have at it, simply don't complain when the guy next to you with the hammer is doing it much better and easier. - Allein
    "Graphics are often supplied by Engines that (some) MMORPG's are built in" - Spuffyre

  • TorvalTorval Member LegendaryPosts: 20,640
    Originally posted by Uproar
    Originally posted by Torval
    You might try Facebook games. They sound like they might be your speed. You don't have to remember tricky things like usernames and passwords and it's really hard to die. If you like traditional games (card, puzzle, arcade, etc) you could also try Pogo.com. They have an option where you can login with your Facebook account too.

    I'd report you for being rude -- but I know it's not a concern here so will probably get me banned for trying to use them to intervene.

    I think his post is the experience of many of us.  It certainly represents an average weekend for me.

    Being rude for what? There are some mmo style games on Facebook and couple fun little RPGs. I have a pogo account for when I just feel like playing puzzle games like Bejeweled Twist, phlinx, or mahjong.

    From his post it sounds like he doesn't like most traditional mmos, doesn't like keeping track of account details, or anything like that. He could also try Steam but most online games require secondary accounts so that doesn't solve his account problems. I could have suggested using a password manager but that seems sort of insulting because that answer is just a search result away.

    So what exactly would you say I should have answered to both answer his question and not offend your sensibilities?

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  • NightHaveNNightHaveN Member UncommonPosts: 1,051
    Originally posted by Uproar
    Originally posted by Torval
    You might try Facebook games. They sound like they might be your speed. You don't have to remember tricky things like usernames and passwords and it's really hard to die. If you like traditional games (card, puzzle, arcade, etc) you could also try Pogo.com. They have an option where you can login with your Facebook account too.

     

    I'd report you for being rude -- but I know it's not a concern here so will probably get me banned for trying to use them to intervene.

     

    I think his post is the experience of many of us.  It certainly represents an average weekend for me.

     

    I defend Torval.  Maybe he went a little too far on his recommendation, but is quite obvious that if you have issues with all MMOs you have played, then maybe, maybe the problem are not the games in the first place, but that you are trying to force yourself on a game category you don't like, or found attractive anymore.

     

    Because the true there is no perfect MMO, but disliking all.  I really doubt that.  You may dislike the MMO idea at all and haven't noticed.

     

  • Azaron_NightbladeAzaron_Nightblade Member EpicPosts: 4,829

    Sounds like you're still suffering from burnout.

    Take a longer break, and do something else. Or find an MMO you haven't played yet, read up on before trying, and start from scratch rather than trying to pick up again where you left off.

    Coming back to MMO after you haven't played for x amount of updates is pretty much always going to result in getting your ass kicked, especially in PvP.

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  • cronius77cronius77 Member UncommonPosts: 1,652
    you are burned out and just bored . I have two types of games I play one being mmos currently ESO for the last year with a few lapses and 2 sandbox survival games like 7 days to die or planet explorers , basically building games with tons of crafting imagination and challenge. If you want to game and do not want to be forced to group quest or do any of the standard mmorpg style of stuff you might want to look into the sandbox survival genre that games like Day z  or minecraft started as they have games out there for just about anyones taste be it tom hanks castaway style in stranded deep or winter survival in the long dark or zombie survival games like 7 days to die etc.
  • SetEssentialSetEssential Member UncommonPosts: 28
    Just a suggestion for the OP but you could try Star Trek Online. You don't have to group with others and it has a lot of solo content. Since the release of Delta Rising the learning curve and grind has increased but if you don't have to have everything right now and don't mind taking your time it might work for you. Other than that the only thing i can say is take a long break.
  • muffins89muffins89 Member UncommonPosts: 1,585

    I suggest gta iv. the story is really well done. you can also find an occasional team mafia on the multi player.

  • udonudon Member UncommonPosts: 1,803
    Originally posted by UnleadedRev

    1) Renewed my ESO subscription, only to see instantly why I left this game, forced grouping.

    2) Logged on to my last month of WoW, decided to do something different, try a 2vs2 arena with my vaunted level 92 Death Knight.

    He died instantly.

    3) Went to try ArchAge since it is F2P.....it aint....deleted!

    4) Tried to install EQ2, it wont install and a bunch of folks are all complaining about this same issue.

    5) Tried NOSGOTH...its not an MMO...died instantly.

    6) Tried to re-install Neverwinter, forgot my username and password...too much red tape to retrieve and gave up.

    7) Looked at Albion....huh...pay money to have the honor of paying an unfinished game in unannounced small time windows..no thanks I will wait.

    8) Logged onto Shroud of the Avatar...had to create a new toon yet again...did I mention again? Instantly fell thru the ground. Logged off.

    9) Tried Dark Souls: Gave up within 5 minutes -impossibe to play without a console pad.

    Soooo, any MMOs that are not money grubbing, unfinished, unless you played from the get go you died, boredom fests?

    I don't get number 1 as ESO is a lot of things, forced grouping isn't one of them.

    I helped three friends do new installs of EQ2 not to long ago and other than it being a bit of a pain to disable the streaming client it went smoothly.  Click on the play now button on their web page and install the game.

  • emotaemota Member UncommonPosts: 413
    Originally posted by Uproar
    Originally posted by Torval
    You might try Facebook games. They sound like they might be your speed. You don't have to remember tricky things like usernames and passwords and it's really hard to die. If you like traditional games (card, puzzle, arcade, etc) you could also try Pogo.com. They have an option where you can login with your Facebook account too.

     

    I'd report you for being rude -- but I know it's not a concern here so will probably get me banned for trying to use them to intervene.

     

    I think his post is the experience of many of us.  It certainly represents an average weekend for me.

    Agreed.

  • dreamscaperdreamscaper Member UncommonPosts: 1,592
    I recommend logging into FFXIV and checking out the Gold Saucer.

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  • NitthNitth Member UncommonPosts: 3,904


    Originally posted by UnleadedRev
    1) Renewed my ESO subscription, only to see instantly why I left this game, forced grouping.

    2) Logged on to my last month of WoW, decided to do something different, try a 2vs2 arena with my vaunted level 92 Death Knight.

    He died instantly.

    3) Went to try ArchAge since it is F2P.....it aint....deleted!

    4) Tried to install EQ2, it wont install and a bunch of folks are all complaining about this same issue.

    5) Tried NOSGOTH...its not an MMO...died instantly.

    6) Tried to re-install Neverwinter, forgot my username and password...too much red tape to retrieve and gave up.

    7) Looked at Albion....huh...pay money to have the honor of paying an unfinished game in unannounced small time windows..no thanks I will wait.

    8) Logged onto Shroud of the Avatar...had to create a new toon yet again...did I mention again? Instantly fell thru the ground. Logged off.

    9) Tried Dark Souls: Gave up within 5 minutes -impossibe to play without a console pad.

    Soooo, any MMOs that are not money grubbing, unfinished, unless you played from the get go you died, boredom fests?


    Sounds like most of those problems are between the earphones..

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  • SpritemysticSpritemystic Member Posts: 1

    I feel you. I so do. I call it Roaming the MMO District. Looking for the right one that makes you remember why you liked playing MMO's to begin with. 

    You think of a game and it brings back memories so you install, log in , look around and think "Where the hell do I start"

    Than you look at the list of MMOs being released this year - some with super duper hype - look at their release date and think " I do not want to wait that long" 

    Guild Wars 2 - Decent population, free to play but a cash shop that stares you in the face, dungeons that are near impossible to do unless you have a superb buddy system going. Sure there are the world bosses but they get repetitve fast. WvW if youre into that sort of thing, I personally hate any sort of PvP

    Everquest 2 - Very low population spread amongst servers. General chat is going on with the same names always talking. Free to play yes with a cash shop... again. Used to be an MMO but lately feels more like an RPG since almost everything you can do by yourself with a merc. Almost everyone has their own guild and tries to recruit each other. People waiting for the giant axe to drop since the merger.

    Rift - The last time I logged into this game was when they went free to play. I logged in. Got my shinies grandfathered to me. Bought a personal zone. Built a house. Logged out. According to my brother he enjoys playing it "While WoW is Down"

    ESO - I bought this game when it first came out following the hype of my community guild. So many issues with the game that it forced quite a few us to unsub. Empty promises from the devs. leading to months later its going f2p. Everyone is getting hyped up again but forget that it going f2p isnt going to fix the reason they left it in the first place.

    Bottom line is this. And I hate to say it cause I swear that its the Super Massive Black Hole of MMOs

    World of Warcraft - We all think about it in the back of our heads. "Do I want to sub again?" "Will I get addicted again?" You bet you will cause it has everything you want now. PvP where you can suck as much as you want and it not effecting you getting gear.  Dungeons where you can suck as much as you can and still get what you want in the end. Rewards for doing the things you suck at. And for those people who get the things they suck at and enjoy doing it done quickly you can enter the WoWSimGame of playing in your Garrison. 

    And if that doesnt work for you . There is always Diablo 3

  • DelCabonDelCabon Member UncommonPosts: 257

    Yeah I don't get the forced grouping comment about ESO. That has not been my experience, but so it goes.

    If you have yet to try LOTRO that may be an option worth considering. You definitely do not have to group and its a very polished game.

    I get a little burnt out on MMO's myself from time to time. As a casual player my recent favorites have included Skyrim, Dragon Age: Origins and Divinity Original Sin. I even jump into Kings Road at times when I need purely whimsical game-play.

    Hope you find something entertaining.

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    A US Army ('Just Cause') Vet and MMORPG Native formerly of Trinsic, Norath and Dereth. Currently playing LOTRO. 

  • PepeqPepeq Member UncommonPosts: 1,977
    Originally posted by UnleadedRev

    1) Renewed my ESO subscription, only to see instantly why I left this game, forced grouping.

    2) Logged on to my last month of WoW, decided to do something different, try a 2vs2 arena with my vaunted level 92 Death Knight.

    He died instantly.

    3) Went to try ArchAge since it is F2P.....it aint....deleted!

    4) Tried to install EQ2, it wont install and a bunch of folks are all complaining about this same issue.

    5) Tried NOSGOTH...its not an MMO...died instantly.

    6) Tried to re-install Neverwinter, forgot my username and password...too much red tape to retrieve and gave up.

    7) Looked at Albion....huh...pay money to have the honor of paying an unfinished game in unannounced small time windows..no thanks I will wait.

    8) Logged onto Shroud of the Avatar...had to create a new toon yet again...did I mention again? Instantly fell thru the ground. Logged off.

    9) Tried Dark Souls: Gave up within 5 minutes -impossibe to play without a console pad.

    Soooo, any MMOs that are not money grubbing, unfinished, unless you played from the get go you died, boredom fests?

    In the words of Grumpy Cat...

    "I had fun once... it was awful"

     

    My personal favorite though is... "You're doing it wrong!"

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