Originally posted by kicjaz (and i don't consider PoE to be a MMO).
That was my thought. Since when did Path of Exile become an mmo?
It's not. It is an "online" ARPG, just like Diablo 3.
The whole "massively multiplayer" idea is kind of a smokescreen anyway.
Take WoW for example. You're not playing with 10 million people, you're playing with however many are logged into your server. If you look at warcraftrealms.com right now, the highest number of logins are on Emerald Dream @ 55,000 and it drops off fairly quickly after the fourth or fifth server on the list.
Take into account that if you are not interacting with all of those people, then you are not actually playing with them. How many people do you interact with while in-game? Twenty? Thirty? Hardly massive.
It's the same warped line of thinking that leads people to believe all 4,000 people on their Facebook page are their friends. *boggle*
As I said earlier today, I voted for SWTOR. I find it amazing how this game was the laughing stock of mmorpgs shortly after release, and now it is one of the top played f2p games. Everyone seems to dislike EA, but I'm glad they didn't pull the plug on this and keep adding content. I don't play it as often as I would like to, but it's like GW2 and is always there when I feel the urge.
Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.
You are missing a real gem if you haven't tried Age of Wushu OP. The first 2-3 hours are slow after that a world rich in history and lore evolves. It's a truly brilliant mmorpg.
Of this entire site. With its entire game list of free to play mmorpgs. Path of Exile and Tera Rising are the only two F2P mmorpgs that are incredible games to play IN MY OPINION. I would love for someone to tell me differently THOUGH IT WONT MATTER. Please make sure to include which F2P mmorpg is better. Also do not include any non-mmorpg game like a moba BUT DONT WORRY I CAN INCLUDE NON MMORPGs LIKE PATH OF EXILE. I already know DOTA2 is top dog of Mobas!
Both POE and Tera have incredible free expansions.. Take a look!
Originally posted by kicjaz (and i don't consider PoE to be a MMO).
That was my thought. Since when did Path of Exile become an mmo?
It's not. It is an "online" ARPG, just like Diablo 3.
The whole "massively multiplayer" idea is kind of a smokescreen anyway.
Take WoW for example. You're not playing with 10 million people, you're playing with however many are logged into your server. If you look at warcraftrealms.com right now, the highest number of logins are on Emerald Dream @ 55,000 and it drops off fairly quickly after the fourth or fifth server on the list.
Take into account that if you are not interacting with all of those people, then you are not actually playing with them. How many people do you interact with while in-game? Twenty? Thirty? Hardly massive.
It's the same warped line of thinking that leads people to believe all 4,000 people on their Facebook page are their friends. *boggle*
In reality you are not even playing with all the people logged into the server. You are playing with about less than 50 people around you most of the time.
Originally posted by Amjoco As I said earlier today, I voted for SWTOR. I find it amazing how this game was the laughing stock of mmorpgs shortly after release, and now it is one of the top played f2p games. Everyone seems to dislike EA, but I'm glad they didn't pull the plug on this and keep adding content. I don't play it as often as I would like to, but it's like GW2 and is always there when I feel the urge.
COD(AW) and Dragon Age Inquisition are both outstanding titles with EA. They have done quite well in the past year or so.
Of this entire site. With its entire game list of free to play mmorpgs. Path of Exile and Tera Rising are the only two F2P mmorpgs that are incredible games to play IN MY OPINION. I would love for someone to tell me differently THOUGH IT WONT MATTER. Please make sure to include which F2P mmorpg is better. Also do not include any non-mmorpg game like a moba BUT DONT WORRY I CAN INCLUDE NON MMORPGs LIKE PATH OF EXILE. I already know DOTA2 is top dog of Mobas!
Both POE and Tera have incredible free expansions.. Take a look!
Both games have good communities WELL EXCEPT TERA, and fantastic development teams who listen to the communities for each game!
Google Tera community? Its not good not by a long shot.
For all the hate SWTOR gets i bet the OP is just pissed it has over 40% of the votes.
Not at all, personal preference. If players enjoy a title. Who am I to try to take that away from them. Why we game right? For the fun factor! Why I even posted a poll to begin with :-D
Originally posted by Amjoco As I said earlier today, I voted for SWTOR. I find it amazing how this game was the laughing stock of mmorpgs shortly after release, and now it is one of the top played f2p games. Everyone seems to dislike EA, but I'm glad they didn't pull the plug on this and keep adding content. I don't play it as often as I would like to, but it's like GW2 and is always there when I feel the urge.
It started out subscription based, that was the main reason it was a laughing stock, cause it really didn't feel like it was worth subscribing. It works much better as f2p obviously, also you have to remember that alot of the first players were SWG fans and were expecting SWG.
Of this entire site. With its entire game list of free to play mmorpgs. Path of Exile and Tera Rising are the only two F2P mmorpgs that are incredible games to play IN MY OPINION. I would love for someone to tell me differently THOUGH IT WONT MATTER. Please make sure to include which F2P mmorpg is better. Also do not include any non-mmorpg game like a moba BUT DONT WORRY I CAN INCLUDE NON MMORPGs LIKE PATH OF EXILE. I already know DOTA2 is top dog of Mobas!
Both POE and Tera have incredible free expansions.. Take a look!
Both games have good communities WELL EXCEPT TERA, and fantastic development teams who listen to the communities for each game!
Google Tera community? Its not good not by a long shot.
For all the hate SWTOR gets i bet the OP is just pissed it has over 40% of the votes.
Not at all, personal preference. If players enjoy a title. Who am I to try to take that away from them. Why we game right? For the fun factor! Why I even posted a poll to begin with :-D
i've enjoyed / my opinions
Rift - Good free to play model, gear is available on store.. you can buy gear good for leveling and previous tier raid gear, to help you get into current content faster, best gear is usually only available for in game currency (raid tokens etc...)
SWToR - i like the game i get back in and play it from time to time, i dont like the F2P model, i think it's too restrictive, but even so it's still one of the highest grossing revenue free games at the moment
TERA - Good F2P model and fun game to play, i've got a few max level characters here and i like to go back from time to time to check on new content and see whats going on, cash shop isnt overly intrusive and basically all cosmetic gear
LotRo - Horrible F2P model imo, and cash shop is overly intrusive and in your face... i feel this game was a lot better when it was a sub only game, but i honestly think turbine is just bent on spending as little money as possible on it at the moment, keeping it on life support and milking it for as much as they can. Honestly i think someone needs to remake LotRo from scratch to do the IP justice, because i dont feel it's current iteration is doing so
Neverwinter - Decent game, F2P model is ok, cash shop can be a bit intrusive at times but it doesnt really force you to use it to play the game...pretty consistent updates, shame you have to pay for them all
Secret World - Good Game / Decent F2P model... had a lot of fun with this game at launch, it certainly had a lot going for it and could have been an amazing game with a bit more time and refining... Def worth checking out if you're looking for something different
Aion - Good Game / Good F2P model not much more to say really, they been releasing a lot of decent content patches recently and it's always been a fun game.
I can't cope with Tera because of the sexualised women and little girls, and the weapons as big as tree trunks.
True. The game would have appealed to many more people, was it not designed by a pedo, perv.
Are you kidding? Please tell me you were kidding?
i agree with you, when i see posts like that it actually makes me think the person is struggling with their own demons of being sexually attracted to children that they cant distinguish between a sexualized child and a modeled game character with the lore behind it that says elin's are actually 100's of years old... the fact that when you look at them you see them as a sexualized child speaks more about your own sub concious and inner demons than the people whom developed the game.
i dont see elin as being sexual or children, i see them as pixels on a game screen that people can choose to play if they wish too... i have a child of my own and i'm more than comfortable with them being in a game because thats all it is, a game, i got my fiance to try tera back when i was playing it... she made an elin toon her reaction to seeing them was "OMG they're soooooo cute, look at their little ears and tails" at no point did she consider them overly sexualized children either. i showed my son an elin toon with cat ears n such he is 4 his opinion was "hello cutieeee awwwwwwww th cat lady is sooo cuteeee"
maybe you need to take a deep hard look in the mirror, then go see a psychiatrist to deal with those uncomfortable feeling that get drummed up for you making you lash out calling game developers peadophiles etc...
mbrodie, you made me laugh so hard.. I dont like Elin because they remind me of cutesie WOW gnomes... Especially the pink haired gnome warriors named "ironballs".
Monty Python "Look at the white cute furry bunny" !! :-D
Now Elin make great pvpers in Tera. Small target and all.. Less pixels to aim at .
I can't cope with Tera because of the sexualised women and little girls, and the weapons as big as tree trunks.
True. The game would have appealed to many more people, was it not designed by a pedo, perv.
Are you kidding? Please tell me you were kidding?
i agree with you, when i see posts like that it actually makes me think the person is struggling with their own demons of being sexually attracted to children that they cant distinguish between a sexualized child and a modeled game character with the lore behind it that says elin's are actually 100's of years old... the fact that when you look at them you see them as a sexualized child speaks more about your own sub concious and inner demons than the people whom developed the game.
i dont see elin as being sexual or children, i see them as pixels on a game screen that people can choose to play if they wish too... i have a child of my own and i'm more than comfortable with them being in a game because thats all it is, a game, i got my fiance to try tera back when i was playing it... she made an elin toon her reaction to seeing them was "OMG they're soooooo cute, look at their little ears and tails" at no point did she consider them overly sexualized children either. i showed my son an elin toon with cat ears n such he is 4 his opinion was "hello cutieeee awwwwwwww th cat lady is sooo cuteeee"
maybe you need to take a deep hard look in the mirror, then go see a psychiatrist to deal with those uncomfortable feeling that get drummed up for you making you lash out calling game developers peadophiles etc...
mbrodie, you made me laugh so hard.. I dont like Elin because they remind me of cutesie WOW gnomes... Especially the pink haired gnome warriors named "ironballs".
Monty Python "Look at the white cute furry bunny" !! :-D
Now Elin make great pvpers in Tera. Small target and all.. Less pixels to aim at .
and thats a legit reason not to like them... and you're not lashing out at devs calling them ridiculous names
Of this entire site. With its entire game list of free to play mmorpgs. Path of Exile and Tera Rising are the only two F2P mmorpgs that are incredible games to play. I would love for someone to tell me differently. Please make sure to include which F2P mmorpg is better. Also do not include any non-mmorpg game like a moba. I already know DOTA2 is top dog of Mobas!
Both POE and Tera have incredible free expansions.. Take a look!
Both games have good communities, and fantastic development teams who listen to the communities for each game!
Path of Exile is not even a MMORPG. It's a hub aRPG game with co-op play., Quite like with the setup of GuildWars (1) and Diablo III.
Also, you drop Lord of the Rings online as a 'good' MMORPG, but I have enormous doubts about it. It was once a good MMORPG, but along the way it's become heavily Pay2Win...
I can't cope with Tera because of the sexualised women and little girls, and the weapons as big as tree trunks.
True. The game would have appealed to many more people, was it not designed by a pedo, perv.
Are you kidding? Please tell me you were kidding?
i agree with you, when i see posts like that it actually makes me think the person is struggling with their own demons of being sexually attracted to children that they cant distinguish between a sexualized child and a modeled game character with the lore behind it that says elin's are actually 100's of years old... the fact that when you look at them you see them as a sexualized child speaks more about your own sub concious and inner demons than the people whom developed the game.
i dont see elin as being sexual or children, i see them as pixels on a game screen that people can choose to play if they wish too... i have a child of my own and i'm more than comfortable with them being in a game because thats all it is, a game, i got my fiance to try tera back when i was playing it... she made an elin toon her reaction to seeing them was "OMG they're soooooo cute, look at their little ears and tails" at no point did she consider them overly sexualized children either. i showed my son an elin toon with cat ears n such he is 4 his opinion was "hello cutieeee awwwwwwww th cat lady is sooo cuteeee"
maybe you need to take a deep hard look in the mirror, then go see a psychiatrist to deal with those uncomfortable feeling that get drummed up for you making you lash out calling game developers peadophiles etc...
This is such a bullshit. So anyone who looks at ELIN at first glance and draws parallel with sexualised chidlren are pedos now? wow..you just blow my mind with your reasoning skills here.
Lets ignore the fact that devs have made every possible attempt to make them look like kids (but hey wait they gave them a lore to explain they are not kids, so convenient) including their mannerism and voices.
One has to be really willfully ignorant to look at ELIN and say hey that looks like a 100 year old 'mature' race to me. yeah sure..;i bet that is the first thing that comes to everyone's mind.
Only because it is some weird thing in their culture doesn't mean rest of us have to accept it. But that is discussion for another topic.
But my advice please don't use this reasoning again because it makes you look even more close minded than the person you are ranting at.
I can't cope with Tera because of the sexualised women and little girls, and the weapons as big as tree trunks.
True. The game would have appealed to many more people, was it not designed by a pedo, perv.
Are you kidding? Please tell me you were kidding?
i agree with you, when i see posts like that it actually makes me think the person is struggling with their own demons of being sexually attracted to children that they cant distinguish between a sexualized child and a modeled game character with the lore behind it that says elin's are actually 100's of years old... the fact that when you look at them you see them as a sexualized child speaks more about your own sub concious and inner demons than the people whom developed the game.
i dont see elin as being sexual or children, i see them as pixels on a game screen that people can choose to play if they wish too... i have a child of my own and i'm more than comfortable with them being in a game because thats all it is, a game, i got my fiance to try tera back when i was playing it... she made an elin toon her reaction to seeing them was "OMG they're soooooo cute, look at their little ears and tails" at no point did she consider them overly sexualized children either. i showed my son an elin toon with cat ears n such he is 4 his opinion was "hello cutieeee awwwwwwww th cat lady is sooo cuteeee"
maybe you need to take a deep hard look in the mirror, then go see a psychiatrist to deal with those uncomfortable feeling that get drummed up for you making you lash out calling game developers peadophiles etc...
This is such a bullshit. So anyone who looks at ELIN at first glance and draws parallel with sexualised chidlren are pedos now? wow..you just blow my mind with your reasoning skills here.
Lets ignore the fact that devs have made every possible attempt to make them look like kids (but hey wait they gave them a lore to explain they are not kids, so convenient) including their mannerism and voices.
One has to be really wilfuly ignorant to look at ELIN and say hey that looks like a 100 year old race to me. yeah sure.
Only because it is some weird thing in their culture doesn't mean rest of us have to accept it. But that is discussion for another topic.
But my advice please don't use this reasoning again because it makes you look even more close minded than the person you are ranting at.
wait.. i dont have any issues with game developers designing their games as they see fit and i'm close minded?
i think you have it backwards, but sure... and yes if you first glance at one and think "sexual children" thats a problem in your head, regardless of lore etc... it's the same thing with overly homophobic people, generally they are ashamed of how they feel so they take it out on those they dont wish to be like. it's psychology, do some research, take a course... i dunno
tinkerbell is a fairy, she looks like a child with wings in a skimpy outfit, do you consider her an overly sexualized child character? JUST because a race is made to look young in a fantasy game, doesnt mean that they are meant to depict children, there is many *mythological / fantasy races" that "never grow up" and as such always resemble a child or young person, that doesnt mean anything unless you want it to mean something.
I consider genuine Sex / child sex offenders to be vile and do not condone the actions whatsoever, but not playing a game because of a ficional race because of your own possible insecurities is just crazy.
I can't cope with Tera because of the sexualised women and little girls, and the weapons as big as tree trunks.
True. The game would have appealed to many more people, was it not designed by a pedo, perv.
Are you kidding? Please tell me you were kidding?
i agree with you, when i see posts like that it actually makes me think the person is struggling with their own demons of being sexually attracted to children that they cant distinguish between a sexualized child and a modeled game character with the lore behind it that says elin's are actually 100's of years old... the fact that when you look at them you see them as a sexualized child speaks more about your own sub concious and inner demons than the people whom developed the game.
i dont see elin as being sexual or children, i see them as pixels on a game screen that people can choose to play if they wish too... i have a child of my own and i'm more than comfortable with them being in a game because thats all it is, a game, i got my fiance to try tera back when i was playing it... she made an elin toon her reaction to seeing them was "OMG they're soooooo cute, look at their little ears and tails" at no point did she consider them overly sexualized children either. i showed my son an elin toon with cat ears n such he is 4 his opinion was "hello cutieeee awwwwwwww th cat lady is sooo cuteeee"
maybe you need to take a deep hard look in the mirror, then go see a psychiatrist to deal with those uncomfortable feeling that get drummed up for you making you lash out calling game developers peadophiles etc...
This is such a bullshit. So anyone who looks at ELIN at first glance and draws parallel with sexualised chidlren are pedos now? wow..you just blow my mind with your reasoning skills here.
Lets ignore the fact that devs have made every possible attempt to make them look like kids (but hey wait they gave them a lore to explain they are not kids, so convenient) including their mannerism and voices.
One has to be really wilfuly ignorant to look at ELIN and say hey that looks like a 100 year old race to me. yeah sure.
Only because it is some weird thing in their culture doesn't mean rest of us have to accept it. But that is discussion for another topic.
But my advice please don't use this reasoning again because it makes you look even more close minded than the person you are ranting at.
wait.. i dont have any issues with game developers designing their games as they see fit and i'm close minded?
Yes to say that anyone who looks ELIN and thinks kids are being sexualised are some kind of borderline pedos is being close minded.
i think you have it backwards, but sure... and yes if you first glance at one and think "sexual children" thats a problem in your head, regardless of lore etc... it's the same thing with overly homophobic people, generally they are ashamed of how they feel so they take it out on those they dont wish to be like. it's psychology, do some research, take a course... i dunno
There you go again. I am talking about the first impression. How many people actually go look at lore before looking at the race? i am talking about visual impression and not the background story.
tinkerbell is a fairy, she looks like a child with wings in a skimpy outfit, do you consider her an overly sexualized child character? JUST because a race is made to look young in a fantasy game, doesnt mean that they are meant to depict children, there is many *mythological / fantasy races" that "never grow up" and as such always resemble a child or young person, that doesnt mean anything unless you want it to mean something.
Take a tinkerbell model and make a side by side comparison with EliN and after that i suggest get new pair of glasses.
I consider genuine Sex / child sex offenders to be vile and do not condone the actions whatsoever, but not playing a game because of a ficional race because of your own possible insecurities is just crazy.
And since you continue to harp your 'if you don't like Elin models you are a pedo' bullshit let me share an experience with you.
My wife and i we play all newly released MMOS together. However, when Tera launched she was completely put off by the Elin and the close resemblance to children. To make matter worse the skimpy outfits didn't help either. At that point if i tell her 'but hey read the lore they are supposed to be mature people' that doesn't help because visually they still resemble to children.
She never played Tera for the same reason. her opinion and her choice. Now to say that my wife is also struggling with her inner insecurities and her attraction towards little kids is absurd and insane.
You are painting everyone with same brush here and you need to shut up now. I can assure you my wife isn't a pedophile. You seriously need to understand the difference of opinion instead of making such strong accusations.
I can't cope with Tera because of the sexualised women and little girls, and the weapons as big as tree trunks.
True. The game would have appealed to many more people, was it not designed by a pedo, perv.
Are you kidding? Please tell me you were kidding?
i agree with you, when i see posts like that it actually makes me think the person is struggling with their own demons of being sexually attracted to children that they cant distinguish between a sexualized child and a modeled game character with the lore behind it that says elin's are actually 100's of years old... the fact that when you look at them you see them as a sexualized child speaks more about your own sub concious and inner demons than the people whom developed the game.
i dont see elin as being sexual or children, i see them as pixels on a game screen that people can choose to play if they wish too... i have a child of my own and i'm more than comfortable with them being in a game because thats all it is, a game, i got my fiance to try tera back when i was playing it... she made an elin toon her reaction to seeing them was "OMG they're soooooo cute, look at their little ears and tails" at no point did she consider them overly sexualized children either. i showed my son an elin toon with cat ears n such he is 4 his opinion was "hello cutieeee awwwwwwww th cat lady is sooo cuteeee"
maybe you need to take a deep hard look in the mirror, then go see a psychiatrist to deal with those uncomfortable feeling that get drummed up for you making you lash out calling game developers peadophiles etc...
This is such a bullshit. So anyone who looks at ELIN at first glance and draws parallel with sexualised chidlren are pedos now? wow..you just blow my mind with your reasoning skills here.
Lets ignore the fact that devs have made every possible attempt to make them look like kids (but hey wait they gave them a lore to explain they are not kids, so convenient) including their mannerism and voices.
One has to be really wilfuly ignorant to look at ELIN and say hey that looks like a 100 year old race to me. yeah sure.
Only because it is some weird thing in their culture doesn't mean rest of us have to accept it. But that is discussion for another topic.
But my advice please don't use this reasoning again because it makes you look even more close minded than the person you are ranting at.
wait.. i dont have any issues with game developers designing their games as they see fit and i'm close minded?
Yes to say that anyone who looks ELIN and thinks kids are being sexualised are some kind of borderline pedos is being close minded.
i think you have it backwards, but sure... and yes if you first glance at one and think "sexual children" thats a problem in your head, regardless of lore etc... it's the same thing with overly homophobic people, generally they are ashamed of how they feel so they take it out on those they dont wish to be like. it's psychology, do some research, take a course... i dunno
There you go again. I am talking about the first impression. How many people actually go look at lore before looking at the race? i am talking about visual impression and not the background story.
tinkerbell is a fairy, she looks like a child with wings in a skimpy outfit, do you consider her an overly sexualized child character? JUST because a race is made to look young in a fantasy game, doesnt mean that they are meant to depict children, there is many *mythological / fantasy races" that "never grow up" and as such always resemble a child or young person, that doesnt mean anything unless you want it to mean something.
Take a tinkerbell model and make a side by side comparison with EliN and after that i suggest get new pair of glasses.
I consider genuine Sex / child sex offenders to be vile and do not condone the actions whatsoever, but not playing a game because of a ficional race because of your own possible insecurities is just crazy.
And since you continue to harp your 'if you don't like Elin models you are a pedo' bullshit let me share an experience with you.
My wife and i we play all newly released MMOS together. However, when Tera launched she was completely put off by the Elin and the close resemblance to children. To make matter worse the skimpy outfits didn't help either. At that point if i tell her 'but hey read the lore they are supposed to be mature people' that doesn't help because visually they still resemble to children.
She never played Tera for the same reason. her opinion and her choice. Now to say that my wife is also struggling with her inner insecurities and her attraction towards little kids is absurd and insane.
You are painting everyone with same brush here and you need to shut up now. I can assure you my wife isn't a pedophile. You seriously need to understand the difference of opinion instead of making such strong accusations.
all i'm reading is that you guys are the close minded ones, unwilling to play a game based off your own opinion on what a race depicts.
also i'd appreciate it if you could refrain from personal insults it's a bit ridiculous.
I can't cope with Tera because of the sexualised women and little girls, and the weapons as big as tree trunks.
True. The game would have appealed to many more people, was it not designed by a pedo, perv.
Are you kidding? Please tell me you were kidding?
i agree with you, when i see posts like that it actually makes me think the person is struggling with their own demons of being sexually attracted to children that they cant distinguish between a sexualized child and a modeled game character with the lore behind it that says elin's are actually 100's of years old... the fact that when you look at them you see them as a sexualized child speaks more about your own sub concious and inner demons than the people whom developed the game.
i dont see elin as being sexual or children, i see them as pixels on a game screen that people can choose to play if they wish too... i have a child of my own and i'm more than comfortable with them being in a game because thats all it is, a game, i got my fiance to try tera back when i was playing it... she made an elin toon her reaction to seeing them was "OMG they're soooooo cute, look at their little ears and tails" at no point did she consider them overly sexualized children either. i showed my son an elin toon with cat ears n such he is 4 his opinion was "hello cutieeee awwwwwwww th cat lady is sooo cuteeee"
maybe you need to take a deep hard look in the mirror, then go see a psychiatrist to deal with those uncomfortable feeling that get drummed up for you making you lash out calling game developers peadophiles etc...
This is such a bullshit. So anyone who looks at ELIN at first glance and draws parallel with sexualised chidlren are pedos now? wow..you just blow my mind with your reasoning skills here.
Lets ignore the fact that devs have made every possible attempt to make them look like kids (but hey wait they gave them a lore to explain they are not kids, so convenient) including their mannerism and voices.
One has to be really wilfuly ignorant to look at ELIN and say hey that looks like a 100 year old race to me. yeah sure.
Only because it is some weird thing in their culture doesn't mean rest of us have to accept it. But that is discussion for another topic.
But my advice please don't use this reasoning again because it makes you look even more close minded than the person you are ranting at.
wait.. i dont have any issues with game developers designing their games as they see fit and i'm close minded?
Yes to say that anyone who looks ELIN and thinks kids are being sexualised are some kind of borderline pedos is being close minded.
i think you have it backwards, but sure... and yes if you first glance at one and think "sexual children" thats a problem in your head, regardless of lore etc... it's the same thing with overly homophobic people, generally they are ashamed of how they feel so they take it out on those they dont wish to be like. it's psychology, do some research, take a course... i dunno
There you go again. I am talking about the first impression. How many people actually go look at lore before looking at the race? i am talking about visual impression and not the background story.
tinkerbell is a fairy, she looks like a child with wings in a skimpy outfit, do you consider her an overly sexualized child character? JUST because a race is made to look young in a fantasy game, doesnt mean that they are meant to depict children, there is many *mythological / fantasy races" that "never grow up" and as such always resemble a child or young person, that doesnt mean anything unless you want it to mean something.
Take a tinkerbell model and make a side by side comparison with EliN and after that i suggest get new pair of glasses.
I consider genuine Sex / child sex offenders to be vile and do not condone the actions whatsoever, but not playing a game because of a ficional race because of your own possible insecurities is just crazy.
And since you continue to harp your 'if you don't like Elin models you are a pedo' bullshit let me share an experience with you.
My wife and i we play all newly released MMOS together. However, when Tera launched she was completely put off by the Elin and the close resemblance to children. To make matter worse the skimpy outfits didn't help either. At that point if i tell her 'but hey read the lore they are supposed to be mature people' that doesn't help because visually they still resemble to children.
She never played Tera for the same reason. her opinion and her choice. Now to say that my wife is also struggling with her inner insecurities and her attraction towards little kids is absurd and insane.
You are painting everyone with same brush here and you need to shut up now. I can assure you my wife isn't a pedophile. You seriously need to understand the difference of opinion instead of making such strong accusations.
all i'm reading is that you guys are the close minded ones, unwilling to play a game based off your own opinion on what a race depicts.
also i'd appreciate it if you could refrain from personal insults it's a bit ridiculous.
Says the guy who just single handedly declared everyone a pedo for simply having a different opinion about a race in a video game.
RaiderZ is another good f2p title. It has better combat than Tera, an interesting crafting system, good boss fights, and looks pretty good. When I played it didn't have much pvp though.
I can't cope with Tera because of the sexualised women and little girls, and the weapons as big as tree trunks.
True. The game would have appealed to many more people, was it not designed by a pedo, perv.
Are you kidding? Please tell me you were kidding?
i agree with you, when i see posts like that it actually makes me think the person is struggling with their own demons of being sexually attracted to children that they cant distinguish between a sexualized child and a modeled game character with the lore behind it that says elin's are actually 100's of years old... the fact that when you look at them you see them as a sexualized child speaks more about your own sub concious and inner demons than the people whom developed the game.
i dont see elin as being sexual or children, i see them as pixels on a game screen that people can choose to play if they wish too... i have a child of my own and i'm more than comfortable with them being in a game because thats all it is, a game, i got my fiance to try tera back when i was playing it... she made an elin toon her reaction to seeing them was "OMG they're soooooo cute, look at their little ears and tails" at no point did she consider them overly sexualized children either. i showed my son an elin toon with cat ears n such he is 4 his opinion was "hello cutieeee awwwwwwww th cat lady is sooo cuteeee"
maybe you need to take a deep hard look in the mirror, then go see a psychiatrist to deal with those uncomfortable feeling that get drummed up for you making you lash out calling game developers peadophiles etc...
This is such a bullshit. So anyone who looks at ELIN at first glance and draws parallel with sexualised chidlren are pedos now? wow..you just blow my mind with your reasoning skills here.
Lets ignore the fact that devs have made every possible attempt to make them look like kids (but hey wait they gave them a lore to explain they are not kids, so convenient) including their mannerism and voices.
One has to be really wilfuly ignorant to look at ELIN and say hey that looks like a 100 year old race to me. yeah sure.
Only because it is some weird thing in their culture doesn't mean rest of us have to accept it. But that is discussion for another topic.
But my advice please don't use this reasoning again because it makes you look even more close minded than the person you are ranting at.
wait.. i dont have any issues with game developers designing their games as they see fit and i'm close minded?
Yes to say that anyone who looks ELIN and thinks kids are being sexualised are some kind of borderline pedos is being close minded.
i think you have it backwards, but sure... and yes if you first glance at one and think "sexual children" thats a problem in your head, regardless of lore etc... it's the same thing with overly homophobic people, generally they are ashamed of how they feel so they take it out on those they dont wish to be like. it's psychology, do some research, take a course... i dunno
There you go again. I am talking about the first impression. How many people actually go look at lore before looking at the race? i am talking about visual impression and not the background story.
tinkerbell is a fairy, she looks like a child with wings in a skimpy outfit, do you consider her an overly sexualized child character? JUST because a race is made to look young in a fantasy game, doesnt mean that they are meant to depict children, there is many *mythological / fantasy races" that "never grow up" and as such always resemble a child or young person, that doesnt mean anything unless you want it to mean something.
Take a tinkerbell model and make a side by side comparison with EliN and after that i suggest get new pair of glasses.
I consider genuine Sex / child sex offenders to be vile and do not condone the actions whatsoever, but not playing a game because of a ficional race because of your own possible insecurities is just crazy.
And since you continue to harp your 'if you don't like Elin models you are a pedo' bullshit let me share an experience with you.
My wife and i we play all newly released MMOS together. However, when Tera launched she was completely put off by the Elin and the close resemblance to children. To make matter worse the skimpy outfits didn't help either. At that point if i tell her 'but hey read the lore they are supposed to be mature people' that doesn't help because visually they still resemble to children.
She never played Tera for the same reason. her opinion and her choice. Now to say that my wife is also struggling with her inner insecurities and her attraction towards little kids is absurd and insane.
You are painting everyone with same brush here and you need to shut up now. I can assure you my wife isn't a pedophile. You seriously need to understand the difference of opinion instead of making such strong accusations.
all i'm reading is that you guys are the close minded ones, unwilling to play a game based off your own opinion on what a race depicts.
also i'd appreciate it if you could refrain from personal insults it's a bit ridiculous.
Says the guy who just single handedly declared everyone a pedo for simply having a different opinion about a race in a video game.
/clap
again.. go read a psychology book i'm sorry but science.
Originally posted by YashaX RaiderZ is another good f2p title. It has better combat than Tera, an interesting crafting system, good boss fights, and looks pretty good. When I played it didn't have much pvp though.
i found raiderz to be ok, i dont think the combat was better than Tera, but thats a matter of opinion... was a pretty solid game though and was pretty fun while i was playing it!
again.. go read a psychology book i'm sorry but science.
yes thank you for opening my eyes..i have been married to a pedo for last 10 years. I will go file divorce papers right now Dr. Phill.
there could be several factors that would lead her to feel uncomfortable with the game characters, maybe an experience that happened in her past etc... i dont know your wife and i'm sure she isnt attracted to children, but there are generally outside factors for people reacting knee jerk to a situation like this. regardless, in more often than not cases a big leading factor is shame, people knowing they shouldnt have said feelings but still do. Not everyone who has said feelings act on them and i take my hat off to them to some degree, having feelings like that and denying them day in and day out / living a regular life and never bringing harm to children or other people would be a burden to live with.
again.. go read a psychology book i'm sorry but science.
yes thank you for opening my eyes..i have been married to a pedo for last 10 years. I will go file divorce papers right now Dr. Phill.
there could be several factors that would lead her to feel uncomfortable with the game characters, maybe an experience that happened in her past etc... i dont know your wife and i'm sure she isnt attracted to children, but there are generally outside factors for people reacting knee jerk to a situation like this. regardless, in more often than not cases a big leading factor is shame, people knowing they shouldnt have said feelings but still do. Not everyone who has said feelings act on them and i take my hat off to them to some degree, having feelings like that and denying them day in and day out / living a regular life and never bringing harm to children or other people would be a burden to live with.
Lol..nah nothing happened to her in past and she is perfectly normal. And there are no 'deep' reasons for it either. She felt un comfortable with the imagery just like many others did. it is just that simple. But please continue telling yourself that only borderline pedos are the ones who would have an issue with it. Whatever makes you happy man. You have built yourself this bubble where any opposing opinions are simply 'pedophiles' trying to hide their guilt.
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It's not. It is an "online" ARPG, just like Diablo 3.
The whole "massively multiplayer" idea is kind of a smokescreen anyway.
Take WoW for example. You're not playing with 10 million people, you're playing with however many are logged into your server. If you look at warcraftrealms.com right now, the highest number of logins are on Emerald Dream @ 55,000 and it drops off fairly quickly after the fourth or fifth server on the list.
Take into account that if you are not interacting with all of those people, then you are not actually playing with them. How many people do you interact with while in-game? Twenty? Thirty? Hardly massive.
It's the same warped line of thinking that leads people to believe all 4,000 people on their Facebook page are their friends. *boggle*
Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.
Google Tera community? Its not good not by a long shot.
For all the hate SWTOR gets i bet the OP is just pissed it has over 40% of the votes.
That's pretty much what I said... ;-)
But I think it's even less than fifty.
COD(AW) and Dragon Age Inquisition are both outstanding titles with EA. They have done quite well in the past year or so.
Not at all, personal preference. If players enjoy a title. Who am I to try to take that away from them. Why we game right? For the fun factor! Why I even posted a poll to begin with :-D
It started out subscription based, that was the main reason it was a laughing stock, cause it really didn't feel like it was worth subscribing. It works much better as f2p obviously, also you have to remember that alot of the first players were SWG fans and were expecting SWG.
i've enjoyed / my opinions
Rift - Good free to play model, gear is available on store.. you can buy gear good for leveling and previous tier raid gear, to help you get into current content faster, best gear is usually only available for in game currency (raid tokens etc...)
SWToR - i like the game i get back in and play it from time to time, i dont like the F2P model, i think it's too restrictive, but even so it's still one of the highest grossing revenue free games at the moment
TERA - Good F2P model and fun game to play, i've got a few max level characters here and i like to go back from time to time to check on new content and see whats going on, cash shop isnt overly intrusive and basically all cosmetic gear
LotRo - Horrible F2P model imo, and cash shop is overly intrusive and in your face... i feel this game was a lot better when it was a sub only game, but i honestly think turbine is just bent on spending as little money as possible on it at the moment, keeping it on life support and milking it for as much as they can. Honestly i think someone needs to remake LotRo from scratch to do the IP justice, because i dont feel it's current iteration is doing so
Neverwinter - Decent game, F2P model is ok, cash shop can be a bit intrusive at times but it doesnt really force you to use it to play the game...pretty consistent updates, shame you have to pay for them all
Secret World - Good Game / Decent F2P model... had a lot of fun with this game at launch, it certainly had a lot going for it and could have been an amazing game with a bit more time and refining... Def worth checking out if you're looking for something different
Aion - Good Game / Good F2P model not much more to say really, they been releasing a lot of decent content patches recently and it's always been a fun game.
there is plenty more.. but i dunno, whatevs
mbrodie, you made me laugh so hard.. I dont like Elin because they remind me of cutesie WOW gnomes... Especially the pink haired gnome warriors named "ironballs".
Monty Python "Look at the white cute furry bunny" !! :-D
Now Elin make great pvpers in Tera. Small target and all.. Less pixels to aim at .
and thats a legit reason not to like them... and you're not lashing out at devs calling them ridiculous names
Path of Exile is not even a MMORPG. It's a hub aRPG game with co-op play., Quite like with the setup of GuildWars (1) and Diablo III.
Also, you drop Lord of the Rings online as a 'good' MMORPG, but I have enormous doubts about it. It was once a good MMORPG, but along the way it's become heavily Pay2Win...
i no longer play EQ1 - but it no longer has coin restrictions
https://www.everquest.com/_pageContent/modals/membership.vm
EQ2 fan sites
This is such a bullshit. So anyone who looks at ELIN at first glance and draws parallel with sexualised chidlren are pedos now? wow..you just blow my mind with your reasoning skills here.
Lets ignore the fact that devs have made every possible attempt to make them look like kids (but hey wait they gave them a lore to explain they are not kids, so convenient) including their mannerism and voices.
One has to be really willfully ignorant to look at ELIN and say hey that looks like a 100 year old 'mature' race to me. yeah sure..;i bet that is the first thing that comes to everyone's mind.
Only because it is some weird thing in their culture doesn't mean rest of us have to accept it. But that is discussion for another topic.
But my advice please don't use this reasoning again because it makes you look even more close minded than the person you are ranting at.
wait.. i dont have any issues with game developers designing their games as they see fit and i'm close minded?
i think you have it backwards, but sure... and yes if you first glance at one and think "sexual children" thats a problem in your head, regardless of lore etc... it's the same thing with overly homophobic people, generally they are ashamed of how they feel so they take it out on those they dont wish to be like. it's psychology, do some research, take a course... i dunno
tinkerbell is a fairy, she looks like a child with wings in a skimpy outfit, do you consider her an overly sexualized child character? JUST because a race is made to look young in a fantasy game, doesnt mean that they are meant to depict children, there is many *mythological / fantasy races" that "never grow up" and as such always resemble a child or young person, that doesnt mean anything unless you want it to mean something.
I consider genuine Sex / child sex offenders to be vile and do not condone the actions whatsoever, but not playing a game because of a ficional race because of your own possible insecurities is just crazy.
And since you continue to harp your 'if you don't like Elin models you are a pedo' bullshit let me share an experience with you.
My wife and i we play all newly released MMOS together. However, when Tera launched she was completely put off by the Elin and the close resemblance to children. To make matter worse the skimpy outfits didn't help either. At that point if i tell her 'but hey read the lore they are supposed to be mature people' that doesn't help because visually they still resemble to children.
She never played Tera for the same reason. her opinion and her choice. Now to say that my wife is also struggling with her inner insecurities and her attraction towards little kids is absurd and insane.
You are painting everyone with same brush here and you need to shut up now. I can assure you my wife isn't a pedophile. You seriously need to understand the difference of opinion instead of making such strong accusations.
all i'm reading is that you guys are the close minded ones, unwilling to play a game based off your own opinion on what a race depicts.
also i'd appreciate it if you could refrain from personal insults it's a bit ridiculous.
Says the guy who just single handedly declared everyone a pedo for simply having a different opinion about a race in a video game.
/clap
again.. go read a psychology book i'm sorry but science.
i found raiderz to be ok, i dont think the combat was better than Tera, but thats a matter of opinion... was a pretty solid game though and was pretty fun while i was playing it!
yes thank you for opening my eyes..i have been married to a pedo for last 10 years. I will go file divorce papers right now Dr. Phill.
there could be several factors that would lead her to feel uncomfortable with the game characters, maybe an experience that happened in her past etc... i dont know your wife and i'm sure she isnt attracted to children, but there are generally outside factors for people reacting knee jerk to a situation like this. regardless, in more often than not cases a big leading factor is shame, people knowing they shouldnt have said feelings but still do. Not everyone who has said feelings act on them and i take my hat off to them to some degree, having feelings like that and denying them day in and day out / living a regular life and never bringing harm to children or other people would be a burden to live with.
Lol..nah nothing happened to her in past and she is perfectly normal. And there are no 'deep' reasons for it either. She felt un comfortable with the imagery just like many others did. it is just that simple. But please continue telling yourself that only borderline pedos are the ones who would have an issue with it. Whatever makes you happy man. You have built yourself this bubble where any opposing opinions are simply 'pedophiles' trying to hide their guilt.