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Trion trying to get money from APEX dupe banned accounts!
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The problem is, with your perspective on this, is that those cheats willing to pay to be back in the game will be back anyhow.
They will spend the same money on a new end game account. There are plenty out there for sale.
So, yeah, the game won't ever be without these people.
I would rather, in this case, see the money go back into the company rather than a third party seller. Either way, the cheater willing to pay to play again will be back in your game.
What I never understood, is the extent some go to point fingers at a game, contriving such negative sentiments toward something they admit not even being invested in.
It boggles the mind.
This is the Arch Age Forum. This is Arch Age news. This is information that could be beneficial for people interested in the game.
Trion is a public company and the way they behave doing business is a public matter to discuss for anyone interested.
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By your logic the forums would be empty as any post could be seen as negative depending on which side you stand on. Gaming journalists are a lot of the times not interested in what they report and yet they do report it. I fail to see the confusion on your part.
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I hope this helped you understand the OP which really was not that much work to post as i pretty much just linked to the sources. So the "extend" as you call it is minimal.
Only thing it helped me understand is the length some go to to showcase their soapbox rants.
You don't have any info on why Trion decided to do this, just your 'take' on it, and again you admitted not playing since beta.
Where is the discussion? You simply condemn in ignorance on some post you read and call it gospel.
Since you don't play, why invest time in negative sentiments on it?
I think it is pretty CLEAR in the OP that i think it is wrong to let cheaters back into the game if they pay up. If you have a different opinion please feel free to discuss it but i have to ask you to stop attacking me and my post directly.
Stay on topic and please stop attacking me.
I've read about that. Players who got caught now have accounts with big negative balances.
"We all do the best we can based on life experience, point of view, and our ability to believe in ourselves." - Naropa "We don't see things as they are, we see them as we are." SR Covey
Nowhere have I attacked you, simply questioned the reasoning behind such a post.
I play AA casually, and I don't have an issue with Trion letting exploiters come back if they pay. If they do it again and get caught, they'll have to pay again. If not, so be it.
My only goal and question I ask myself is whether I am having fun with my time there, and so far I am.
I don't think most people have a static ip address. Get ip banned, unplug your modem for awhile and you usually get a new ip address. If they ban a range then all players in that range can't play. They lose a lot of customers who have done nothing.
"We all do the best we can based on life experience, point of view, and our ability to believe in ourselves." - Naropa "We don't see things as they are, we see them as we are." SR Covey
About calling the police. I don't know any local laws off hand that cover virtual money. So it would probably be a civil matter. Is a company going to take someone to court for stealing $400 virtual dollars? Also, this often involves crossing state lines which would make it a matter for the FBI. Are they going to investigate something like this? And what if the player lives in another country?
"We all do the best we can based on life experience, point of view, and our ability to believe in ourselves." - Naropa "We don't see things as they are, we see them as we are." SR Covey
then I guess you need to study harder or you will bomb on this term, to be defamation it needs to be false, with is not
Yes, you attacked me and made up reasons i may have behind posting the OP instead of discussion the issue at hand. That is an ad hominem attack and can lead to a ban. Do i really need to quote your replies?
If that is what you believe, then have it. I stand by what I've said.
I haven't made up a thing, since you only provided posts, no real statement from Trion. Hence it is speculation, at best.
True and i would never do that however if someone calls my post a "soapbox rant" and calls me ignorant i take the liberty to do so.
I'd like to see where I called you ignorant. Seems you are placing words where none exist. But w/e
"You simply condemn in ignorance on some post you read and call it gospel." - whisperwynd
BIG difference here,Trion supplied the code,players did not manipulate code or hack the game,they simply took advantage of Trion's faulty coding.Knowingly doing it what they ban for because you should let them know.
However i have always been a little harsh towards LAZY developers,what are they doing to make sure exploits do not exist...umm nothing,they wait until players find them.
In this case it is not stealing,it is as the term used is exploiting ,players making use of code PROVIDED by Trion.The problem of course is the effects it has on the entire game, other players and the company.
To me it is like a store manager accidentally put the wrong sticker price on an item,then after you already bought it,chases you in the parking lot and asks for more money.Too bad,you made a mistake,pay closer attention to your work,if your employees are incompetent with doing their job,then you can expect problems like exploits.
You know why bad code exists in games,RUSHED products,they couldn't care less about the state of the code as long as they can start taking your money.It is a two way street,you can't knowingly sell a bad product but not expect any problems.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.