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NCsoft Q2 2014 Earnings report is in... not pretty...
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What is it with the rather amatuar assessments of a financial report - looks like a perfectly healthy report to me for any company. Was there a profit warning? Has the market reported dismay at these reports? Does this have a direct impact on us as game players? What has this got to do with GW2 as a game? As a game player we care about 1 thing - is it fun to play.
rpg/mmorg history: Dun Darach>Bloodwych>Bards Tale 1-3>Eye of the beholder > Might and Magic 2,3,5 > FFVII> Baldur's Gate 1, 2 > Planescape Torment >Morrowind > WOW > oblivion > LOTR > Guild Wars (1900hrs elementalist) Vanguard. > GW2(1000 elementalist), Wildstar
Now playing GW2, AOW 3, ESO, LOTR, Elite D
Which is heavily affected by how profitable it is; as this will inform all future decisions pertaining to the game.
Obviously, that applies to every game.
From report 'Revenues and profits increased thanks to new launches such as Wildstar in US/EU and Guild Wars 2 in China.' Since GW2 has already paid for itself, GW2 sales in China (in whatever form) is almost pure profit which is pretty damn fine from the companies perspective, so why exactly has this been translated as 'not pretty' very strange.
rpg/mmorg history: Dun Darach>Bloodwych>Bards Tale 1-3>Eye of the beholder > Might and Magic 2,3,5 > FFVII> Baldur's Gate 1, 2 > Planescape Torment >Morrowind > WOW > oblivion > LOTR > Guild Wars (1900hrs elementalist) Vanguard. > GW2(1000 elementalist), Wildstar
Now playing GW2, AOW 3, ESO, LOTR, Elite D
I agree. The WS section of the report makes dire reading, but GW2 seems to be ticking along.
I love this bizarre-o-world logic of blaming the customers for poor sales. You can't go to investors and say sorry I lost your money because the customers don't 'get' the product. Your sales suck because your product sucks and you failed at market research.
What you call 'challenge' others call boring, been there done that or unfun. In fact devs are banking on the fact that people actually care about their 'skill status' in a virtual world and thus get addicted and keep giving them money rather than act as rational consumers who measure value for time invested.
I just read the entire earnings report and profits are up across the board. Yeah they had an increase in labor cost that hurt profits but the return on investment still increased by a very acceptable margin. Let's put it this way there stock holders are not complaining because they made money.
So I don't know where you got this doom and gloom from as it didn't come from the earnings reports.
Units of measure KRW in MN = Korean Won in the millions
Current exchange rate is 1 KRW = 0.00098 USD
Sales: Q1 = 178,147 Q2 = 213,000
Operating Profit: Q1 = 44,520 Q2 = 64,948
Net Income: Q1 = 36,539 Q2 = 52,938
So from just glancing at those numbers I would be happy to be an investor for this quarter .
Unfortunately sales for gw2 are down, and despite release in china of gw2.. royalties don't seem to be soaring...
Looking at the consolidated sales break down excluding royalties they lost a little over 10% specifically for guild wars 2. And this is excluding royalties so for a game that has been out for a couple years these are still good numbers. The problem with looking at the royalties is that you don't know the breakdown of these. They could be biannual payments, yearly, etc. and how do they break down between the different games etc. So you may have had and increase in one games royalties but a decrease in others so it makes it look like decrease across the board. So you can't take into effect the difference with royalties without the breakdown. Still a 10% decrease in box sales for a game that has been out for a while is considered doing very well from a financial standpoint.
40% down what?
GW2 dropped 13% compared to last quarter and 30% down compared to 1 year ago.
Currently playing: GW2
Going cardboard starter kit: Ticket to ride, Pandemic, Carcassonne, Dominion, 7 Wonders
PVP is doing good, having lots of fun in a free MMO....
But, I am curious which MMO you are playing is threatened by GW2?
"going into arguments with idiots is a lost cause, it requires you to stoop down to their level and you can't win"
yes people buying $2 games on steam sales and then never playing them shows the lack of quality in games. All you've done is shown if you try hard enough you can make any statistic agree with you.
Wait gw2 is a f2p mmo? Weird... I thought it was b2p...
I don't think any mmo is threatened by gw2 at this point lol...
Ofc you never bought the game first.
And no, I haven't paid since, buying all perks with ingame earned gold.
(PS: is it WoW with the "phasing"/merging servers?)
"going into arguments with idiots is a lost cause, it requires you to stoop down to their level and you can't win"
I think you are having trouble... is gw2 a free to play game or a buy to play game? Why are you talking about perks or saying I never bought the game first?
Ya I think they merged servers to make low pop servers feel like the world was more populated... thank god gw2 never did anything like that but called it something else so the fans wouldn't freak out.
If a company has a certain amount of sales during one quarter for a game, that means the demand was at that level for what they had to offer... if the next quarter they have less sales that means there is less of a demand for what they have to offer.
Oh no! Sales are down. I guess it's time for me to quit the game then!
/s
Looking at the report, GW2 is still kicking ass and is ranked 2nd in NCSoft's portfolio (Lineage with 97.9 Mill sales; GW2 with 47.3 Mill sales).
But this thread belongs to a troll, so let their doom-and-gloom-extravaganza begin!
"going into arguments with idiots is a lost cause, it requires you to stoop down to their level and you can't win"
Your thread post history makes for interesting reading caetftl, almost every post you make is negative comments about the GW2, including previous financial reports, that's very odd behavior, why is this?
To help you though, lets make it simple. The game allows players to play for free with its current model, and it is a success, the game has made profit and continues to do so. Players continue to play for free 2 years on, content continues to be pumped out as fast if not faster than any other mmo. If you somehow feel offended by this, you should ask yourself honestly why? its just a game.
rpg/mmorg history: Dun Darach>Bloodwych>Bards Tale 1-3>Eye of the beholder > Might and Magic 2,3,5 > FFVII> Baldur's Gate 1, 2 > Planescape Torment >Morrowind > WOW > oblivion > LOTR > Guild Wars (1900hrs elementalist) Vanguard. > GW2(1000 elementalist), Wildstar
Now playing GW2, AOW 3, ESO, LOTR, Elite D
But is it free to play or buy to play?
I'm pretty sure it falls under the category of "buy to play".... which is not "free to play".
The most fascinating aspect of your interpretation is that my posts only come off "negative" to people who are not objective and are too biased towards gw2. I stick to the facts in reality....
A game would technically be B2P if they paid 50 pence in a bargain bucket for a game, so its a largely irrelevant fact (most if not all AAA MMO have box price) The meat of the matter is wether a game costs money to play on the server each month, which is obviously the point being made.
rpg/mmorg history: Dun Darach>Bloodwych>Bards Tale 1-3>Eye of the beholder > Might and Magic 2,3,5 > FFVII> Baldur's Gate 1, 2 > Planescape Torment >Morrowind > WOW > oblivion > LOTR > Guild Wars (1900hrs elementalist) Vanguard. > GW2(1000 elementalist), Wildstar
Now playing GW2, AOW 3, ESO, LOTR, Elite D
Depends on the individual, I wouldn't take it if it was free.
That's so odd considering the b2p is a very important aspect to the revenue they've made....
Points in a thread about a financial report don't hold much weight if you can not properly understand gw2's business model and the impact certain aspects of it have on the future of the game...
Anyway the point he was trying to make was that pvp is doing great in a "free mmo" implying you have to pay nothing to get the pvp experience... which simply isn't true...
Except Wildstar was launched in the 3rd quarter not the second.
Being deliberately obtuse does not make my point invalid, i was obviously referring the posts above and not the main thread of conversation in the thread.
Back to the The financial report, it made very good reading for GW2, and it looks as if Wildstar is the potential risk there - so within the context of this GW2 'not pretty reading' makes absolutely no sense.
'Also have fun in gw2... let me know how the pvp is going...' not sure what this has to do with analysis of a financial report either. I spent 4 hours last night in WVW and had a great time, that's after 2 years on and off casual play, you are confusing personal taste with fact. (ive spent £8 so far in 21 years at the start to buy a bag if i remember, I don't recall that bag being a gamebreaker in PVP.)
rpg/mmorg history: Dun Darach>Bloodwych>Bards Tale 1-3>Eye of the beholder > Might and Magic 2,3,5 > FFVII> Baldur's Gate 1, 2 > Planescape Torment >Morrowind > WOW > oblivion > LOTR > Guild Wars (1900hrs elementalist) Vanguard. > GW2(1000 elementalist), Wildstar
Now playing GW2, AOW 3, ESO, LOTR, Elite D