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rodarin
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They had the infamous "pay wall" announcement?
I never bought the game and havent been keeping up with it and havent seen anything about it but....
Can you buy anything that was in the 'collectors' edition in the store? Namely the Imperial race or the unlock any race for any faction? Or are they still 'exclusive'?
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Umm you know you can go to their website and see for your self....
The play any race you want in any faction thing was a one time deal for pre-orders. You can still upgrade to the Imperial edition but if you didn't pre-order you are SOL on the race lock thing.
Really makes it look less like a "pay wall" and more like a pre-order bonus doesn't it?
The one where you can purchase a horse and an account upgrade. They officially call it the Elder Scrolls Online Store.
https://account.elderscrollsonline.com/store
Yes, I remember all the hand-wringing regarding the cash shop. Many, many people got a lot of mileage beating the game up over a cash shop no one knew anything about.
Now take a look at it. Not exactly the apocalypse we were promised.
Hell hath no fury like an MMORPG player scorned.
Oh wow you right. I've never seen it. I bought the imperial edition. A horse came with it.
The apocalypse likely came in the form of many people simply choosing not to purchase because of the shop and the tactics used to try and sell pre-orders. Unfortunately, we'll never be able to quantify how apocalyptic their decision was. The game at release did meh at best and perhaps the poor word of mouth helped quell the tide of people that would typically purchase The Next New MMO.
Unfortunately, much of the "word of mouth" regarding the cash shop was ignorant fear-mongering. You know the type - people with an axe to grind and absolutely no idea what was going to be in the cash shop spreading their version of the truth. A version based on ignorance, to be sure, but honesty has never been a requirement on the intarwebz.
No, they simply wanted to make the game look as bad as possible, so they swore up and down that they'd be selling anything and everything on the cash shop. Turns out, they were wrong, and they were dishonest.
Hell hath no fury like an MMORPG player scorned.
Rodarin is pretty known for that. Ignore them trolls.
Hodor!
Company still haven't boasted with it subs (while they were quick to mention that Skyrim is a best selling game).
The EU server is still located in the NA.
Phasing is still annoying as fuck for group players.
The list goes on, BUT!
I'm happy you guys found your favorite single player MMO rpg. Now how about you get "busy playing" instead of "busy apologizing"
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How about you go and play something, rather than coming on here to spread some poison? Busy playing instead of busy trolling?
Zenimax did not make Skyrim, so stop talking out of your nethers.
EU server has taken ages to transfer. If I was experiencing lag this would be an issue, as I virtually never have its not for me. Some players have had lag, but so has the NA megaserver and lag is the most subjective technical issue in online gaming. Most players I speak to online say it has not effected them more than in other similar games, so its not an issue.
You can't get rid of phasing, its the new way MMOs are going to be done. Megaservers are cheaper and easier to expand after launch and reduce after the launch population explosion. All MMOs will go this way, I don't like it, but get used to it.
Well here's hoping that subscription MMOs don't go the cheaper route when solving a problem in the future.
Well..As far as I'm concerned ESO has the most advanced phasing of any game around, It uses alterations of the World everywhere, much much more than any other game I have seen before, and the alterations based on your quests is PERMANENT..That is also why players will get problems going back to help someone with areas that is looking totally diffrent for that player..
In my knowledge TERA and Neverwinter does not have phasing and GW2 has phasing but only phasing regarding the public events, meaning that the outcome will happen for EVERYONE in the area until the event resets and the event starts again.
There is really only 1 problem with grouping and phasing ESO, and that is the case when you try to help some others with quests you have already done. I have quested in Groups for the entire game so far and NOT stumbled upon ANY problems at all, sure the above problem can be an issue , but for godness sake ...start the quests together and you will have NO problems
Either he has no idea how phasing works or has not played the games he says he has. Phasing is used in a far more developed way than SWTOR. Not to say that I want phasing but to tell stories where what you see in the environment changes radically means you cannot be in the same phase as those who have not done the quest. If you make superficial changes then you don't need to have different phases.
Bethesda is owned by Zenimax, the larger company does not have to follow what Bethesda used to do. So there is no conspiracy as you are implying.
You are saying NA has had no lag while the EU has? Where is your proof that has happened? If you were to post that on the official boards it would be laughed out of the forum. Its the game, its your connection its your PC, and some how you think you know for sure what it is.
Anyway, what masterpiece of MMO design are you playing currently that will blow TESO away?
Zenimax online studio makes ESO, Zenimax Media is the parent company of ZOS and bethesda.
If I want to help a friend, I should be able to enter his phase, end of story. As a level 80 I can help my buds at lvl 10 in Gw2, entering their instances excluding my instance's progress. It's really a lot more fun to be able to team up with your friends (be it even downscaled) than being alone in my whatever changed phase. Fact.
Idk how you took my post as a conspiracy theory o.O Zenimax Inc owns everything. It has envious game library under its shoulder. It has all the devs available to whatever they want to make. If Bethesda boasted about sales, it means Zenimax Inc. did. End of story really... Although I remember DMKano saying he has friends in TESO's dev team pre-launch. Maybe he can give us some inside scoop of how the game is doing sub-wize. Other than that it's all speculations, and ZOS is not happy about it to end the speculations IMO.
I really don't know how it is in a NA server. I have no reason to play in NA server if I have EU one. I don't like ping. With games running at 120fps and a gamer's eye, I can spot that stuff and it bugs the hell out of me. And before assuming I play from a calculator you should know that I invest a large chunk of my monthly income to my PC/gaming needs even though I don't have the time lately. And, yeah, my connection is top of the line and if it goes bad I turn on BattlePing which I'm permanently subscribed to. Yet the lag was there... Looking at the complaints popping out each week in this forum and others I can only assume EU cluster still has major skill lag, mostly at the RvR.
And if you preview my post history you would know what masterpiece of MMO design am I playing atm. It is Guild Wars 2, mixing it up with TERA/WildStar in the meantime. I actually created new account at TERA to remind myself of the game. It's actually an amazing, but quite linear game. Other than that, if you can rule out the no voiceovers and the poor cinematics with no lip sync at all, I think it's better than TESO in gameplay. The world is simply amazing at high graphics. They're also adding 4 new dungeons in the upcoming patch within a week!
Interesting point.
What TESO is doing is not new.
Megaservers (think Eve) are absolutely something to have.
Using phases to make an individual's story "special" - WoW has done it since it launched.
Not being able to go back / buddy down and help a friend do a low level bit of story if you have already done it - CoH.
What TESO has done however is to take something that only happened occasionally / at a few key points to - what can seem like - 24/7. Not a cheap option as more processing power will be needed.
Is this what we want? Not an issue with public dungeons but have they gone to far; is TESO to much of a single player game in a multi-player setting?
As I say everything has been done before but its the degree to which it has been applied that is "different".
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
To be concise:
The marketing and business strategy of making a MMO is not the same as a solo game, so Zenimax has no reason to do everything the same when it comes to ES.
MMOs have gone solo for years, it is a gradual trend and the phasing is one more step in that direction. I don't like it but we are not going to escape it.
"I don't like ping." If you or people you know are experiencing lag you have a complaint. Just saying you don't like ping is taking the proverbial. Come on.
Of the three: TERRA has combat on a par with the best I have seen, good graphics, but tragically linear. GW2 has the least impressive combat and graphics, feel of the game is good, good casual PvP, decent quests but poorly presented. TESO has the best graphics, combat on a par with TERRA, best quests and best in depth PvP. That said I think any of those MMOs are a good title.
WS not played it but the graphics, ouch.
I should point out I live in the UK, when I say I have hardly ever had lag or know of any guild members who have, I am connecting the same distance you are.
GW2 combat is banal compared to TESO or TERA, we are worlds apart there. I never said I thought TESO had the best PvP of any MMO, just among the three we mentioned. I would give that award to PS2 myself, though many would not think that a MMO.
Tell me @Scott, did you manage to defeat Liadri? Or have you ever soloed Giganticus Lupicus? If not then you really haven't mastered Gw2's combat to be competent enough to comment on it. What you have is an opinion, not a fact.
Also its a well known fact that the UK is very well connected to US. I would be surprised if you lagged. The rest of us have to route and bounce the connection left and right. If you don't believe me, we can make a traceroute and see who has more hops to TESO's datacenter?
I'm having fiber optics to my home but damn those hops are nasty.
We are both expressing opinions not facts.
Come on. If I told you I lived in Greece would you say you came from the North Pole? EU connection is fine, people doing keeps do sometimes get lag, but I am basing that on posts not on what people say online. So that is being overstated to my mind.