it would take probably a day to impliment in a very simple form (overwriting the appearance line of the character with that of the costume).
Ok let´s say one day to code, then that code snipet need to be tested, put in to a build, tested again, approved, handed of to QA, tested again and against any potential combination of things, approved, put in to a live candidate and deployed to the servers. Then you need to devote support time to when it breaks something (because it will)
Things are never as simple as they seem.
And they had 3 months to complete this.
If that's so much work that it would require them to put the general development on hold to complete in that timeframe, I honestly am not sure how they managed to release their product within this decade.
Well being as it was... Maybe they did not want to spend ANY time on this. That is something i can not speak about because i have no insight in the exact process. I was just commenting on the "oh that is a 5 minute fix to change that" and how even a 5 min coding fix can take a few weeks to make it in to the live game...
Now about this specific issue... Might be as someone a bit up posted... that they simply felt there had been to much exploiting this cycle and thus felt that instead of giving out a one of a kind item it was better to just give gold...
Who knows....
True, and I don't have any specific insight into the company to comment on that, either.
I, too, feel as if a handful of gold was a rather unfitting reward for being a top PvPer. However, if it can be proven that those top PvPers knowingly used exploits to achieve their positions, I think they should have simply disqualified those players and given the reward to the highest earning player who didn't use such exploits.
But again, I have no intimate knowledge with the game. I hope in the future they can give rewards such as a simple special armor skin to those players. And that the players getting such rewards did not use exploits to earn them.
Originally posted by brEEziex I kind of agree with the OP, most players play on wabbajack, and for first place bracket, that prize does not seem very significant. That is almost chump change ...
I agree, at the same time I've made hundreds of thousands of gold playing the campaign. It certainly does reinforce the delima of get AP, or get keeps and scrolls.
It would be nice to get a title and maybe a skin aswell, but heh, everyone out there would play for free.
it would take probably a day to impliment in a very simple form (overwriting the appearance line of the character with that of the costume).
Ok let´s say one day to code, then that code snipet need to be tested, put in to a build, tested again, approved, handed of to QA, tested again and against any potential combination of things, approved, put in to a live candidate and deployed to the servers. Then you need to devote support time to when it breaks something (because it will)
Things are never as simple as they seem.
Implying that they actually test their game which is contrary to what we experienced on release and after.
Originally posted by Scot Fair one, costumes do take a bit of coding though, would you expect a new costume for each time the campaign was ended? A title for sure, plus some money and an item which allows them to change the colour of their outfits to a regal colour, say purple and gold.
Are you aware that you just said people shouldn't expect a good reward because it means work for the company?
If that's their reward for a 90 day campaign then what's it going to be for when they implement the shorter campaigns? That's got to be a drag for most people who PVP in this game. I really hope they listen to feedback for you guys still playing.
Originally posted by rodingo If that's their reward for a 90 day campaign then what's it going to be for when they implement the shorter campaigns? That's got to be a drag for most people who PVP in this game. I really hope they listen to feedback for you guys still playing.
Lackluster as is the rest of the game. Every direction you see half assed job done. Nothing is done with top notch design.
It was by far the worste mmo i ever payed for in over a decade, i just coulnt believe it Long time Elders scroll fan and this abomination just failed in evry direction you can imagen. Hope Zenimax can turn this around but i have zero faith in this studio after what they deliverd.
They should at least offered a special mount or a costume for 90 days of battle. But Zenimax just doesnt have a single clue what mmo players want or desire.
Oh the drama! What MMO are you playing right now that is so far better than ESO? I just want to see how your mastermind thinks especially when this is the worst you played and IMHO it is the BEST I have played in 10 years. Difference is I am not logging into Wildstar, AA or EVE forums and calling it an epic fail in every proportion.
It was by far the worste mmo i ever payed for in over a decade, i just coulnt believe it Long time Elders scroll fan and this abomination just failed in evry direction you can imagen. Hope Zenimax can turn this around but i have zero faith in this studio after what they deliverd.
Anyone who says a MMO is an abomination and the worst MMO they have played in a decade and then declares 'I hope Zenimax can turn this around'; is clearly talking out of their behind.
As to the reward, all content is about balance and time, if designers spend time on reward costumes they will not be spending it elsewhere. And if its that easy to do as some think, then send a mail to TESO and say you will do it for them
I can't really speak for what a better reward would be. As for someone who was on a campaign since week 2 and spent more than 42k on potions/food/soul gems and sometimes repair kits to stock up on ap that 42k was a drop in the bucket. Everyone got the same rewards. A guy who joined the campaign 12 hours before it closed would of got the 42k if he got to tier 3. This system was really poorly executed.
I defended this game viciously for months. Now that I stop defending it to point out something grossly broken people aren't happy with me anymore. O_o 90 days for 42k that a guy could achieve in several hours of pvp. The system is broken. I could of made several alts got them all up to par and made a killing gold wise. Why couldn't they of made rewards scale on the server activity/rank/ap gain or something? Now you have mass amounts of people doing all sorts of nefarious things due to the reward being a joke. 3 months for a lame gold reward was a stab in the back. They flat out lied to everyone. http://tamrieljournal.com/eso-pvp-qa-with-brian-wheeler/ There was no scaling reward. I ranked 5th and got the same reward as someone who ranked 895.
[quote] Originally posted by LordZeikI can't really speak for what a better reward would be. As for someone who was on a campaign since week 2 and spent more than 42k on potions/food/soul gems and sometimes repair kits to stock up on ap that 42k was a drop in the bucket. Everyone got the same rewards. A guy who joined the campaign 12 hours before it closed would of got the 42k if he got to tier 3. This system was really poorly executed.[quote]
You come on here to sound of about how the reward was poor but "can't really speak for what a better reward would be". That is a totally lame argument, if you have no idea what would be a good reward how can you say the reward you got was poor?
[quote] Originally posted by LordZeikI can't really speak for what a better reward would be. As for someone who was on a campaign since week 2 and spent more than 42k on potions/food/soul gems and sometimes repair kits to stock up on ap that 42k was a drop in the bucket. Everyone got the same rewards. A guy who joined the campaign 12 hours before it closed would of got the 42k if he got to tier 3. This system was really poorly executed.[quote]
You come on here to sound of about how the reward was poor but "can't really speak for what a better reward would be". That is a totally lame argument, if you have no idea what would be a good reward how can you say the reward you got was poor?
He made the point that the reward he got could have been achieved by just farming for a day - not 90 days.
Additionally anyone who barely made an effort as he did still got the same reward.
Also he is a player - he pays for the game and it's the job of the devs to think of a fair rewarding system and not his.
Oddly enough after all that pvp I am still shy like 450k ap away from assault.support rank 10. Anyways, I just figured that if something takes 3 months there would be something more to it. It's not my place to decide what that reward is/was. Just to point out that better rewards were promised months ago if you commit to a campaign and that instead of delivering I got hit with a generic 42k spread across 3 mails. I'm optimistic that update 3 will maybe bring better rewards.... At this point though it looks like will be going through another 90 day that will end in the middle of July, Either giving us the same rewards/less/ or none since new campaigns are coming.
[quote] Originally posted by LordZeikI can't really speak for what a better reward would be. As for someone who was on a campaign since week 2 and spent more than 42k on potions/food/soul gems and sometimes repair kits to stock up on ap that 42k was a drop in the bucket. Everyone got the same rewards. A guy who joined the campaign 12 hours before it closed would of got the 42k if he got to tier 3. This system was really poorly executed.[quote]
You come on here to sound of about how the reward was poor but "can't really speak for what a better reward would be". That is a totally lame argument, if you have no idea what would be a good reward how can you say the reward you got was poor?
He made the point that the reward he got could have been achieved by just farming for a day - not 90 days.
Additionally anyone who barely made an effort as he did still got the same reward.
Also he is a player - he pays for the game and it's the job of the devs to think of a fair rewarding system and not his.
If it is the devs job to think of a fair reward, then by definition what they have chosen is correct. If you can not offer an alternative, how can you say something is wrong? Some posters here have offered what they see as a fair reward, what they have said more or less seems reasonable to me. Just saying 'no good' does not get us anywhere.
[quote] Originally posted by LordZeikI can't really speak for what a better reward would be. As for someone who was on a campaign since week 2 and spent more than 42k on potions/food/soul gems and sometimes repair kits to stock up on ap that 42k was a drop in the bucket. Everyone got the same rewards. A guy who joined the campaign 12 hours before it closed would of got the 42k if he got to tier 3. This system was really poorly executed.[quote]
You come on here to sound of about how the reward was poor but "can't really speak for what a better reward would be". That is a totally lame argument, if you have no idea what would be a good reward how can you say the reward you got was poor?
He made the point that the reward he got could have been achieved by just farming for a day - not 90 days.
Additionally anyone who barely made an effort as he did still got the same reward.
Also he is a player - he pays for the game and it's the job of the devs to think of a fair rewarding system and not his.
If it is the devs job to think of a fair reward, then by definition what they have chosen is correct. If you can not offer an alternative, how can you say something is wrong? Some posters here have offered what they see as a fair reward, what they have said more or less seems reasonable to me. Just saying 'no good' does not get us anywhere.
Actually, yes many people here made good suggestions, much better than what the devs offered.
But because the OP didn't come up with something, you say he is wrong about wanting something better.
That is your only statement and I don't think anyone can take you serious on this.
[quote] Originally posted by LordZeikI can't really speak for what a better reward would be. As for someone who was on a campaign since week 2 and spent more than 42k on potions/food/soul gems and sometimes repair kits to stock up on ap that 42k was a drop in the bucket. Everyone got the same rewards. A guy who joined the campaign 12 hours before it closed would of got the 42k if he got to tier 3. This system was really poorly executed.[quote]
You come on here to sound of about how the reward was poor but "can't really speak for what a better reward would be". That is a totally lame argument, if you have no idea what would be a good reward how can you say the reward you got was poor?
He made the point that the reward he got could have been achieved by just farming for a day - not 90 days.
Additionally anyone who barely made an effort as he did still got the same reward.
Also he is a player - he pays for the game and it's the job of the devs to think of a fair rewarding system and not his.
If it is the devs job to think of a fair reward, then by definition what they have chosen is correct. If you can not offer an alternative, how can you say something is wrong? Some posters here have offered what they see as a fair reward, what they have said more or less seems reasonable to me. Just saying 'no good' does not get us anywhere.
Actually, yes many people here made good suggestions, much better than what the devs offered.
But because the OP didn't come up with something, you say he is wrong about wanting something better.
That is your only statement and I don't think anyone can take you serious on this.
Look at who posted it. The guy who took over Knotwood's job. If he can't admit that the reward was no good he is only fooling himself. The fact that someone who placed top 10 got the same reward as someone who ranked 895th is evidence enough. Just because you don't come up with a solution, it does not mean the problem does not exist.
You can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into.
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True, and I don't have any specific insight into the company to comment on that, either.
I, too, feel as if a handful of gold was a rather unfitting reward for being a top PvPer. However, if it can be proven that those top PvPers knowingly used exploits to achieve their positions, I think they should have simply disqualified those players and given the reward to the highest earning player who didn't use such exploits.
But again, I have no intimate knowledge with the game. I hope in the future they can give rewards such as a simple special armor skin to those players. And that the players getting such rewards did not use exploits to earn them.
I agree, at the same time I've made hundreds of thousands of gold playing the campaign. It certainly does reinforce the delima of get AP, or get keeps and scrolls.
It would be nice to get a title and maybe a skin aswell, but heh, everyone out there would play for free.
logging into Cyrodiil now!
Implying that they actually test their game which is contrary to what we experienced on release and after.
Lol thats what im saying.
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Oh the drama! What MMO are you playing right now that is so far better than ESO? I just want to see how your mastermind thinks especially when this is the worst you played and IMHO it is the BEST I have played in 10 years. Difference is I am not logging into Wildstar, AA or EVE forums and calling it an epic fail in every proportion.
Anyone who says a MMO is an abomination and the worst MMO they have played in a decade and then declares 'I hope Zenimax can turn this around'; is clearly talking out of their behind.
As to the reward, all content is about balance and time, if designers spend time on reward costumes they will not be spending it elsewhere. And if its that easy to do as some think, then send a mail to TESO and say you will do it for them
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well said. When do I get my reward?
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[quote] Originally posted by LordZeik I can't really speak for what a better reward would be. As for someone who was on a campaign since week 2 and spent more than 42k on potions/food/soul gems and sometimes repair kits to stock up on ap that 42k was a drop in the bucket. Everyone got the same rewards. A guy who joined the campaign 12 hours before it closed would of got the 42k if he got to tier 3. This system was really poorly executed.[quote]
You come on here to sound of about how the reward was poor but "can't really speak for what a better reward would be". That is a totally lame argument, if you have no idea what would be a good reward how can you say the reward you got was poor?
He made the point that the reward he got could have been achieved by just farming for a day - not 90 days.
Additionally anyone who barely made an effort as he did still got the same reward.
Also he is a player - he pays for the game and it's the job of the devs to think of a fair rewarding system and not his.
ESO is a great disappointment to me it just does not have something special.
I learned a good lesson,dont subscribe to any mmos most are boring after the first few weeks.
If it is the devs job to think of a fair reward, then by definition what they have chosen is correct. If you can not offer an alternative, how can you say something is wrong? Some posters here have offered what they see as a fair reward, what they have said more or less seems reasonable to me. Just saying 'no good' does not get us anywhere.
Actually, yes many people here made good suggestions, much better than what the devs offered.
But because the OP didn't come up with something, you say he is wrong about wanting something better.
That is your only statement and I don't think anyone can take you serious on this.
Look at who posted it. The guy who took over Knotwood's job. If he can't admit that the reward was no good he is only fooling himself. The fact that someone who placed top 10 got the same reward as someone who ranked 895th is evidence enough. Just because you don't come up with a solution, it does not mean the problem does not exist.
You can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into.
entitlement.......
Or, punishment; but playing ESO is punishment enough.
Here, have another questhook in your nose, we are gunna lead you around.
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
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