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Why I left EVE -- and why you shouldn't bother with this game.

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  • StarIStarI Member UncommonPosts: 987
    Originally posted by cesmode8

    Eve is a shining example of a game that stands the test of time.  Although I do not play it and probably never will, Im glad it has existed and Im glad it has stayed true to itself, to an extent.

    I played about 5 years ago for a month or two.  Steep learning curve, so much to learn.  More so than any game, and thats completely fine.  My problem was that eventually people like me bled off, and there wasnt anyone around to socialize with or play with.  Everyone that CAN help you is YEARS(literally...years) ahead of you.  Theres no catching up, no hope for new players to one day partake in some of these deep space adventures and battles and economy wars that I love reading about.  There is such a barrier to entry that I cannot ever overcome.  

    The game is most of what I have always wanted in a space sandbox game.  I wish the battles were a bit more engaging, they look...pretty boring.  Epic in scale, cool visually, but pretty un-engaging.  But overall, CCP has done well by letting human nature dictate the pulse of Eve, whether for bad or worse.  Even if someone trolls you, thats part of it.

     

     

    A perspective of someone blind. Sorry but that's how I see what you wrote and I started playing like 2 years ago.

    1)There are thousands of players around you at any time of day. You being unable to socialize is your own fault and no one elses.

    2) The core system is made so you don't need all the skills to do one thing. There are  hundreds of small roels you can take in EvE. Yes mastering ALL of them takes years but mastering one takes from a few days to a few months top, so new people are welcome pretty much everywhere.

    3) If you are so inclined about catching vets on skill points, you are free to legaly buy an old account, thus skipping years of leveling.

    4) Battles are super engaging - once you learn how to play and what to play (different ships require different knowledge and more skill/experience with flying it), get involved in community and  maybe actually risk something.

  • DihoruDihoru Member Posts: 2,731
    Originally posted by StarI
    Originally posted by cesmode8

    Eve is a shining example of a game that stands the test of time.  Although I do not play it and probably never will, Im glad it has existed and Im glad it has stayed true to itself, to an extent.

    I played about 5 years ago for a month or two.  Steep learning curve, so much to learn.  More so than any game, and thats completely fine.  My problem was that eventually people like me bled off, and there wasnt anyone around to socialize with or play with.  Everyone that CAN help you is YEARS(literally...years) ahead of you.  Theres no catching up, no hope for new players to one day partake in some of these deep space adventures and battles and economy wars that I love reading about.  There is such a barrier to entry that I cannot ever overcome.  

    The game is most of what I have always wanted in a space sandbox game.  I wish the battles were a bit more engaging, they look...pretty boring.  Epic in scale, cool visually, but pretty un-engaging.  But overall, CCP has done well by letting human nature dictate the pulse of Eve, whether for bad or worse.  Even if someone trolls you, thats part of it.

     

     

    A perspective of someone blind. Sorry but that's how I see what you wrote and I started playing like 2 years ago.

    1)There are thousands of players around you at any time of day. You being unable to socialize is your own fault and no one elses.

    2) The core system is made so you don't need all the skills to do one thing. There are  hundreds of small roels you can take in EvE. Yes mastering ALL of them takes years but mastering one takes from a few days to a few months top, so new people are welcome pretty much everywhere.

    3) If you are so inclined about catching vets on skill points, you are free to legaly buy an old account, thus skipping years of leveling.

    4) Battles are super engaging - once you learn how to play and what to play (different ships require different knowledge and more skill/experience with flying it), get involved in community and  maybe actually risk something.

    3) correction, character not account, account selling is illegal and buying a character is only via isk. Still possible though and with the current price of plexes it can work quite well.. a 4-5 year old character should be around 80 dollars more or less (sounds like allot? 110 euros x 8 = a whole lot more).

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  • Agent_JosephAgent_Joseph Member UncommonPosts: 1,327
    Originally posted by Hazelle
    Originally posted by MMORPGtester

    Beta tested this game, ran around with Pan back in the dev days. But had other things to test, So I moved on.
    Came back to give it a try recently "few months ago", got blown up by players multiple times in newbie area. left the game I won't be back or sub till they fix the playing issue, in it's current state IMO this game is unplayable for new players.

    And yes I still have my beta account.

    Post your character's name so that we can verify your story otherwise nobody can believe your fantastic tale about being killed in the newbie area.

    he was shoot something & blow up  by Concord multiple times , during agresion cd  timing , or accept duel or he just simple lie .Every player know what is 1.0 system security .

    only EVE is real MMO...but I am impressive with TSW

  • Quazal.AQuazal.A Member UncommonPosts: 858
    Originally posted by joosii

    wall of text that summed in "i dont like game , nor will you"

    ok let put it this way, just passed 8th bday, 

     

    been ganked 1

    been scammed 1

    been griefed 0

    ive lived in high, null, low, ran alliances, been in alliances, rented, production in a 3 man corp all me with 8 poses, 

    and in all of the above ive not had a problem, sorry but i CBA reading the text, but i get gist being, im too lazy to find a place that i can call home i will live where all the other sheep live and then cry when big bad wolf comes into our field.

     

    This post is all my opinion, but I welcome debate on anything i have put, however, personal slander / name calling belongs in game where of course you're welcome to call me names im often found lounging about in EvE online.
    Use this code for 21days trial in eve online https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=d385aff2-794a-44a4-96f1-3967ccf6d720&action=buddy

  • DojenDojen Member UncommonPosts: 134
    Originally posted by Thane

    funny how people play a game, then make THEIR personal experience, and think everyone else has to feel the same way.

    for the record, some people actually like open pvp. that's what eve is about.

     

    you got ganked? awwww, yea, welcome to eve, that's why you insure you ships, and that is the reason you do not fly ANY ship you cannot afford to lose.

    you start to play a game after what, 10 years and now think YOUR opinion is the one that matters?

    people play this game for ages. your post is not the first of it's kind, and will neither be the last.

     

    and eve never gave a damn.

     

    the problem is not that "The problem CCP refuses to deal with is that games need to evolve", but rather that THAT IS A FEATURE OF EVE.

    the only sollution there is, don't play open pvp games if you don't like open pvp.

    Eve will soon die. Too bad you don't have the stones to grief ion real life. Have a nice day.

  • tmann50tmann50 Member UncommonPosts: 70

    Just more confirmation of all I have ever heard about Eve. Only play the game if you want to get griefed and endlessly ganked and the game company doesn't give a damn. Anyone I ever spoke to who has played that game started out liking it then quit out of frustration of endlessly getting screwed over....wouldn't touch that thing if it was the only game in the world

     

  • EleazarosEleazaros Member UncommonPosts: 206
    Originally posted by tmann50

    Just more confirmation of all I have ever heard about Eve. Only play the game if you want to get griefed and endlessly ganked and the game company doesn't give a damn.

    Anyone I ever spoke to who has played that game started out liking it then quit out of frustration of endlessly getting screwed over....wouldn't touch that thing if it was the only game in the world

     

    That's inaccurate but so are a lot of the "supporting" posts.

    EVE has a well deserved brutal rep - very well deserved.  It is the type of game that attracts a rather vicious type of individual who envies those who can get away with abusing others -- in fairly large numbers but that is *NOT* the majority of the players.

    Yes it still lives and will have a constant following as long as it maintains tolerance for feeding on grief.

    As one person put it:  "It's just a game!  I don't see why people get so upset when others play like this..."

    I replied:  "what is better to judge someone by?  What they must do for a living or what they CHOOSE to do for fun?"

    What many choose to do is abuse others and this game lets them do it more than any other game out there.

     

    Again, this is not the bulk of the players but it is closer to half of them than any other game you'll play.

     

    The "sandbox" bullshit gets old fast.

    Calling a litterbox a sandbox doesn't work for many and the fact that this or that group can shit all over others does not make it a sandbox - that makes it a fn' gross mess but what those who enjoy crapping on others call a "great sandbox game!" - because they can mess up another person's day.

    It's designed to feed that darker element in people and the "no death" style of the game means "good guys" can *NEVER* win being as they can never really stop the nasty ones.  

    The positive feedback one gets from beating down "evil" never happens being as you can only grant a very small temporary pause to the abuse whereas every single "griefing" feeds that corrupt type person - so they only need one success out of every few tries to get their rush while that other side never succeeds in protecting fully.  It's a futile effort long-term.

    In other words the game has a very corrupt theme to it that does pervert more healthy types towards more abusive modes of play the longer one plays.

    So either people figure out how to ignore and avoid or they'll eventually get drawn into abuse of others for their "fun time" - so you have a lot of people that avoid those aspects of the game as much as possible - and still play it.

  • MargraveMargrave Member RarePosts: 1,163

    l tried EVE multiple times. I always leave due to boredom.

     

    In space... no one can hear you snore...

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