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My entire team besides I and one other was a bot.. How the heck can it be this bad?

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  • Lord.BachusLord.Bachus Member RarePosts: 9,624
    Originally posted by SpottyGekko

    Could it be that the goldfarmers have found the currently most effective method of leveling their bots ? Perhaps for sale later ?

     

    Or is this just an example of the average MMO cheater in action ?

    I would bet my mo ney on the first one

     

    MMo´s are fun to play, so why bot?

    Unless you make some real money from it?

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  • SammuelSKSammuelSK Member Posts: 24
    Originally posted by GeezerGamer
    Originally posted by Distopia
    Originally posted by JOverlord
    Originally posted by bcbully

    I've never seen anything like that. Not to that degree. Do you think it's possible for them to fix it? Banning is great, but it doesn't fix anything. You still have to deal with the BS until they are banned. 

     

    How did they not know this was going to happen? Carbine has a lot of learning to do. There's only pve and pvp, I hope they get this half of their game straightened out.

    Thank god this wasnt as bad as ESO was though. At least you can avoid this. You couldnt avoid ESO bots.

    Maybe, but what was the general reaction to ESO having a bot problem? If I recall correctly it was seen as a sign they were complete amateurs who had no idea how to run an MMO. They certainly weren't given slack because some other company had a bot problem. Hell if someone said something like this (other games have bots) they'd be taken out back and flogged.

    I'm not sure if I get your context the way you meant it, but why should Zenimax (or any other developer for that matter) ever be given any slack? If you want to bust into the scene with your shiny new triple A with the same price, then you best put out a product that competes with what's out there. New MMOs should be judged how they stack up against the competition because that's reality. If you release a game that isn't as good as WoW because you need time to polish time, then too bad. WoW's gonna keep their money. How many bloody noses do publishers need before they get this?

    His point is the vast majority of gamers wanted to hate ESO before they even started to play it, every misstep was used an excuse to validate their predetermined opinions of the game.

    Wildstar on the other hand is receiving the opposite treatment. Every mistake is excused away, errors in judgement are answered with calls of 'give them time', etc. Basically its a double standard.

    Oh, and the bots in ESO were infinitely more avoidable then the are in WS. Having whole teams of AFKers and bots players absolutely breaks PVP, while quick one time dungeons camped by bots in ESO while annoying did not break the game and additionally was fixed extremely quickly.

  • The hilarious part about bots in ESO, since I did headstart, I never saw a single bot in ESO till I made my alt after getting my DK vr12, and by then...It was only in the first zone. Not seen any in the second zone or the 3rd zone.

    Never seen a Bot in PvP either, and if you think Wildstar is going to fix the problem..Remember..there are still a crap ton of bots in WoW PvP.

     

     

  • lunatiquezlunatiquez Member UncommonPosts: 381
    So I heard P2P model is the perfect way to enjoy an mmo, with no bots, no gold seller, good community, etc. And of course the regular updates that you'll never see in F2P games such as Lineage II, Aion, Rift, etc. The customer service is also top notch they'll answer your inquiries right away.
  • StarIStarI Member UncommonPosts: 987
    Originally posted by JOverlord
    Originally posted by bcbully
     

     There never were any bots in Cyrodiil destroying pvp.  What you are saying is a lie.

     This is about WS. Bashing ESO with lies won't make WS better or fix it's PvP bot problems. You can try though.

    What lies? Its not something new you are hearing. ESO was a disaster when it came to bots. So far no one is complaining about bots in WS with any PVE content. They are complaining about the PVP which is 100% avoidable. 

    For the most part not many people are complaining about bots in WS even in PVP. Very few people will ever see one. Something that couldnt be said about ESO.

    In my 1 month I never noticed a single bot in ESO. Way to exagerae and hidie behind another game.

    Also I have a question. How do you avoid 100% when you que up for a BG and get teamed up with bots?

  • StarIStarI Member UncommonPosts: 987
    Originally posted by Lord.Bachus
    Originally posted by SpottyGekko

    Could it be that the goldfarmers have found the currently most effective method of leveling their bots ? Perhaps for sale later ?

     

    Or is this just an example of the average MMO cheater in action ?

    I would bet my mo ney on the first one

     

    MMo´s are fun to play, so why bot?

    Unless you make some real money from it?

     

    I heard themeparks only  really start at max level... where the real competition starts...

    So why bother with leveling.

    Also because you can, and people find fun in different things. It's fun setting up a bot and than gain advantage even when you don't play.

    Something along those lines.

  • gwei1984gwei1984 Member UncommonPosts: 413

    Some guys in here really remind me of him....

     

    Hodor!

  • junzo316junzo316 Member UncommonPosts: 1,712
    Originally posted by Distopia
    Originally posted by JOverlord
    Originally posted by bcbully

    I've never seen anything like that. Not to that degree. Do you think it's possible for them to fix it? Banning is great, but it doesn't fix anything. You still have to deal with the BS until they are banned. 

     

    How did they not know this was going to happen? Carbine has a lot of learning to do. There's only pve and pvp, I hope they get this half of their game straightened out.

    Thank god this wasnt as bad as ESO was though. At least you can avoid this. You couldnt avoid ESO bots.

    Maybe, but what was the general reaction to ESO having a bot problem? If I recall correctly it was seen as a sign they were complete amateurs who had no idea how to run an MMO. They certainly weren't given slack because some other company had a bot problem. Hell if someone said something like this (other games have bots) they'd be taken out back and flogged.

    It wasn't only the ridiculous amounts of bots in ESO that made them look like amateurs.  It was the ridiculous amounts of bugs as well.  Many of which were reported before the game went live and still they failed to fix them.  I don't care about bots in PvP (I don't PvP)  Bots and bugs destroying my immersion in my PvE game is definitely a deal breaker.

     

  • Tr3izeTr3ize Member Posts: 35
    Originally posted by DamonVile
    This seems to be the next step for the instant gratification mob. Bot anything that you can't get right away.

    Game is too hard, better bot everything.

    I personally have to see this botting myself though, might be because I play on an RP server though.

  • TheLizardbonesTheLizardbones Member CommonPosts: 10,910

    I know two people who run bots.  One to run a team of characters through a game and gain the advantages that come with being in a well coordinated group, and the other to make money as an individual.  The gold farmer has had their account banned before.

     

    Some people just want to bot their way through games, whether it's for the advantages or to make money.  The only solution is to make it somehow impossible or so difficult that it may as well be impossible.  Short of having everything stream from the server wth 0 client side knowledge, this doesn't seem possible.  There are bots in Wildstar just like there are bots in every other online game that has existed, does exist and probably will exist.  This isn't a revelation, this is just an observation of how things work.

     

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  • tawesstawess Member EpicPosts: 4,109

    Well to be hobest, if blizzard can´t get rid of the bots... I am sure that carbine will have to live with them too.

     

    With that said i am sure the situation will improve as the game matures.

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  • FleshMaskFleshMask Member UncommonPosts: 249

    I suspect nothing appears to be happening because the devs are hoping to get everyone in one fatal swoop.

    It's only been 2 weeks since launch...

    I'd say if the bots are around after this month, then I would be concerned.

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  • CrazKanukCrazKanuk Member EpicPosts: 6,130
    Originally posted by tawess

    Well to be hobest, if blizzard can´t get rid of the bots... I am sure that carbine will have to live with them too.

     

    With that said i am sure the situation will improve as the game matures.

    This so much! 

     

    Also, remember that Blizz has, probably, a few million lines of code to deal with bots now, Wildstar has zero. However, botters still have all the code they used in WoW, so bots are constantly advancing while new games always face an uphill battle. It's not like Blizzard is out there publishing whitepapers on how to get rid of bots in your games, lol. Are yo ukidding? They want you to be crushed under the weight of the bots. 

     

    It'll come with time, bots will go away or at least decrease. 

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  • ArthasmArthasm Member UncommonPosts: 781
    They will be banning, let them to milk bots 1st for money. Usually, every devs ban in waves.
  • AzmodeusAzmodeus Member UncommonPosts: 266
    Originally posted by junzo316
    Originally posted by Distopia
    Originally posted by JOverlord
    Originally posted by bcbully

    I've never seen anything like that. Not to that degree. Do you think it's possible for them to fix it? Banning is great, but it doesn't fix anything. You still have to deal with the BS until they are banned. 

     

    How did they not know this was going to happen? Carbine has a lot of learning to do. There's only pve and pvp, I hope they get this half of their game straightened out.

    Thank god this wasnt as bad as ESO was though. At least you can avoid this. You couldnt avoid ESO bots.

    Maybe, but what was the general reaction to ESO having a bot problem? If I recall correctly it was seen as a sign they were complete amateurs who had no idea how to run an MMO. They certainly weren't given slack because some other company had a bot problem. Hell if someone said something like this (other games have bots) they'd be taken out back and flogged.

    It wasn't only the ridiculous amounts of bots in ESO that made them look like amateurs.  It was the ridiculous amounts of bugs as well.  Many of which were reported before the game went live and still they failed to fix them.  I don't care about bots in PvP (I don't PvP)  Bots and bugs destroying my immersion in my PvE game is definitely a deal breaker.

     

    Spoken like a raging Wildstar fanboi.   Stop making excuses or saying "Other game has more bots and is amateur".  Fact is, that YOUR game has problems that needs to be addressed. 

     

      OMG I am Ancient!
  • AeonbladesAeonblades Member Posts: 2,083

    Give Carbine time, ESO finally got rid of their bots a few weeks back for the most part, I'm sure Carbine is working on their game as well.

     

    These aren't problems that can be solved overnight, if ZOS can salvage the issue, I'm sure Carbine can as well.

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  • LudwikLudwik Member UncommonPosts: 407

    After getting a long stretch of games with 1-3 bots, I took a break from BGs about a week ago. For grins, I just hopped into a game and there were 5 bots, 2 of which had gold selling websites as their guilds.

     

    I'm all for giving Carbine time to resolve this issue but it's not an issue that players should be paying for. If you're a BG diehard, I'd cancel your sub until they fix it. 

  • RusqueRusque Member RarePosts: 2,783
    That's weird WildStar reviews don't talk about bots, ESO reviews never failed to mention them. I can only assume that there are no bots in WS.
  • mayito7777mayito7777 Member UncommonPosts: 768
    One question to clarify what is the goal of having bots in a PVP match? Are not they easy targets?

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  • UhwopUhwop Member UncommonPosts: 1,791

    And yet none of them were running set patterns, each time he said they were they ran someplace else and he stuttered.  One guy he claimed was bottling was actually fighting.  

    I saw a bunch of bads, including the maker of the video who was doing the exact same thing as the guys he claimed were bots.  

    For the record I don't play the game or have any interest to.  

  • LudwikLudwik Member UncommonPosts: 407
    For the record if you watch that video and think those are players, I wouldn't put much stock in your opinion anyway.
  • hikaru77hikaru77 Member UncommonPosts: 1,117

    An NCsoft game.  

    Bots and hack are pretty much an huge part of everysingle game of the company.  

  • Gobstopper3DGobstopper3D Member RarePosts: 841
    As the game dies so will the bots as it wont be profitable to keep them going.  Give it 6 months and I'm sure you wont see many bots.

    I'm not an IT Specialist, Game Developer, or Clairvoyant in real life, but like others on here, I play one on the internet.

  • UhwopUhwop Member UncommonPosts: 1,791
    Originally posted by Ludwik
    For the record if you watch that video and think those are players, I wouldn't put much stock in your opinion anyway.

    Well, "much" stock is far more than I put in your opinion, so I guess thank you.  

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