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NCsoft earnings for 1q 2014... not looking pretty...
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Developers find superdata credible, forum goers do not. Why do you think that is ?
Personal agendas ? lack of education ? I'm sure it's in there somewhere.
So, you have official EA data on SWTOR.
Come on, share with the rest of the world.
Well it's pretty simple, you can't say it equates to a game with X amount of subscribers, without also including the amount of box sales a game with X amount of subscribers has as well.
It would be like saying burger king makes as much revenue on their burgers as mcdonalds makes on the lettuce they use on their burgers.
Ways to make more money by giving more?
1.) Optional Premium Subscription with benefits, (Not pay 2 win.) but things like (Free Teleports) (Free Repair) and so on.
2.) Allowing players to do more crafts on a single character option to buy more without having to switch (cash shop item).
3.) Cash Shop Option (Craft Directly From Bank) no need to carry materials on yourself.
Not sure if any of this has changed but it would get A-Net more income, I mean the last update was pretty nice.
http://investor.ea.com/results.cfm
Why would you remove the cost of buying the box?
It's a complete nonsence. That's what the B2P model is about... They make estimations on box sales + cash shop revenues...
If you want to talk subscribers then remove the cash shop revenue from SWTOR and then calculate the numbers. But that's another nonsence as well because that's what makes the game make money, it's model.
So if you want to compare how well is one game doing in comparison to another you have to take everything into consideration not just the things you want to make it swing your way.
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who do you think pays the $1000+ fee to get access to their reports ? They've been doing it for years...is it magic paying for all that work to be done ?
This comparison you are making in regards to older games isn't valid. Comparing profit from two different time periods isn't such a simple equation. First off those sales you are using for GW are including the box price but you aren't including the box price of those other games in your comparison. Secondly you aren't adjusting for inflation. So let's come up with some real numbers.
Even if we don't include the box price of the older games but do include the box prices in GW sales. Then you end up with a required subscriber number of 388,733 for EQ to match the same sales after you adjust for 11 years of inflation. If you do include the box price of the aforementioned games you come up with a required subscriber number of 297,500. While inflation data isn't completely definitive, it is empirical. If you look back 11 years (mentioned above) that would bring you to 2003, which is the year that EQ posted its record subscribers at 450,000+.
Just to question the philosophy. Army of Socrates.
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To cut teh crap: what was SWTORs revenue in Q4?
All those execs of failed games? Seems so rofl
But you actually fail in comprehending WHO exactly wants those numbers and for what, and, internet is full of various "analysts". Those numbers are as valid as any other internet speculation. You think EA buys its own numbers rofl
Unless you have official EA numbers its nonsense. Its that simple.
Says the person that thinks 100million a year is a low number for a game already released and low operational costs and also loves to believe what EA says about SWTOR revenue even though they combine it with other games to hide the numbers.
BTW, EVE has around 500k subscribers placing it around GW2s revenue. Doh!
KRW/USD = 1023.89999
So 25,142 million is how much is that in US dollar ? Is that in Korean million the figure I mean. It says KRW in MN does it mean KRW in US million or it means that figure is 25,142 million KRW ?
I was going to say 4 behind FFXIV. Sure the company is based in Japan, but the majority of subscribers are based in the na/eu market and unlike Korean games the only difference between what we're playing and what they're playing is server location.
As I can see it they made 405 million $ in 12 months only from subscriptions (which include SWTOR, BF premium, EA sports season tickets and pogo.com). Now I just glanced trough the numbers, but I can't find anything there which shows revenue for each title.
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NCSOFT also covers a lot of games not just guild wars 2.
Some of the detailed reports show they took a huge hit in sales for Lineage 2.
Eve sells the game itself on top of that too though, DOH!
100million in revenue is not high annually for an MMORPG in today's world... Also where is your evidence that they have low operating costs?
EvE sells the game? Dude, lay off of....whatever youre doing lol
its 25142000000 KRW which converts to ~25.2mil USD
Do you have Eve's sales totals for 1st quarter? No. Looks like yet again you have produced an argument that holds no water and cant stand up to the smallest refute. And your ending comment is laughable, where is your proof they have a high operating cost?
lineage 1 and does anyone know whay they mean by "temporarily dropped with in game item sales being scaled back". did they change the payment model or something?
Okay thanks
25,142 million krw = 24.5 million usd
Of course you cant, EA has always hidden SWTORs numbers. Surely not because theyre good, they dont have a problem with boasting, as you can see in their financial report
You can't expect B2P games to get in as much after 2 years as at launch without an expansion.... It is still a pretty impressive number.
The China launch will bring in some dough but it still tells us it is time for an expansion soon.