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NCsoft earnings for 1q 2014... not looking pretty...
caetftl
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http://global.ncsoft.com/global/ir/earnings.aspx
Another massive drop (~25%) in revenue compared to 4q.... I wonder if that's why GW2 has been on sale so much lately and if that's why they did the whole megaserver thing...
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Oh noes it dropped from the XMAS quarter to the First Quarter.
$24.5M pretty respectable.
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WoW did cross realm servers. It must be dying.
Seriously though, those numbers are down from the holiday quarter, which were up from the previous quarter iirc. Either way, revenue has been hovering around the same % for a long time now and is only going to increase substantially with the China release.
It also dropped to a much lower point than it was at in 1q last year... not a good sign at all... at this rate it will be at an all time low next quarter...
WoW has actually been in decline overall for many years.. which is why they added cross realm servers.. so you made a very good point...
It spikes for a holiday quarter and you take it at the second coming of grenth... it drops an alarming amount (one of the biggest declines when put into context) and you make an excuse...
It also hasn't been hovering around the same % for a long time now... 4q was actually the only quarter it had shown growth for since the game came out... it had been in steady decline before that, and has quickly gotten back to it's second lowest point all time... it basically almost completely wiped out the holiday growth... and did it all in 1 quarter... that isn't good.
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And they still have enough to push out new games like Wildstar and GW2 in China.
So it's not bad at all, I'd say it's quite the opposite.
Also why they did megaservers on GW2 is the result of people complaining how mid-lvl zones are almost empty. With "megaservers" (which aren't really megaservers like ESO or any of the other crap) they made zones merge together so now they get filled up with people again to make the world feel diverse and alive again in every zone.
Also you can't expect a B2P game racking up on sales after 2 years, main source of income for it now is the cash shop.
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1st quarter last year had the game releasing in a new region so had a sales spike.
24.5 million places it at a pace of 100 million for the year.
That's equal to having 555,555 people subscribing for 12 months at $15 a month. That's damn good for a game with no subscription options and places it far above some of the best MMOs in history, UO, EQ1, DaoC, SWG...none had that many subscribers at one time.
Yes NCsoft has enough to make more games? That doesn't mean GW2 isn't in decline? GW2 was never going to make or break ncsoft, they have much more popular games out there...
They did the megaservers because there weren't enough players populating the world...
You actually can expect a B2P game to be racking up on sales after 2 years... games like LoL are doing it just fine... It's really a matter of whether you have enough people playing the game to make it work...
So let me get this straight... you are making excuses for this quarters performance... by retroactively downplaying last year 1q?
Also you are comparing gw2 numbers to games that are 10- 15 years old and came out before WoW ballooned the market numbers...
You are kinda 2 years too late m8. lol
Still good to see GW2 going strong, it puts it No.2 game in the west (if EvE hasnt surpassed 550k subs by now)
Nice news. Release in China will certainly spice things up, it might become No.1 NCSoft game which is no small feat since it holds one of the most successful MMOs that bow only to WoW.
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That is impressive revenue fro GW2, glad to see the game doing well
How is it the number two game in the west? Not that I am a SWTOR fan, but SWTOR made more revenue off microtransactions than GW2 made. It made just shy of 140 million, and that didn't include subscriptions.
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That's why I said that you can't expect from GW2 to raise in sales, which mmorpg did you see grow in sale numbers after the initial release or after an expansion release? Tho this might change now when they release in China, but it'll drop after that, as every other game.
What exactly did I say differently, there wasn't enough people in mid-level or some low-level zones, tho it still stands that some areas were way over-populated which triggered overflows. There's more than enough people playing the game, high level zones are full mostly and WWW is constantly on queue. Which brings me to the final thing.
LOL? really? It's a MOBA, a free one for that matter and you're comparing it to a AAA mmorpgs which costs millions of dollars more to develop.
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Unfortunately, that number includes box sales and not just revenue from microtransactions making your comparison invalid.
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That's actually not a very good number for an MMO. Those other "best mmo's in history" you list, all existed before the market had enough people to support more than a fewt hundred thousand players. GW2 is in todays market, where there are millions of potential players.
So no, those numbers aren't very good.
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How about waiting for the next quarter - they are releasing in China now.
I know I'm having these weird thoughts sometimes but I feel there MIGHT be a Chinese or two who will end up buying the game.
hmm, isn't this what people were saying almost 2 years ago? Login now and you will see a very respectful population. I have noticed an increase even the last 6 months. It won't be a ghost town by any means, it is a niche game and has a healthy fanbase.
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Please post official EA data on SWTOR earnings.
SWTOR didnt make fraction of that.
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I don't see this as bad news either, sure it isn't any good news either but is GW2 dying? No not even close. The game has a huge playerbase and were ever you go it's filled with players some places even to many. WvW has ques almost around the clock, takes only a few seconds to get into spvp battles, and people everywere doin quest.
Sure megaserver has been great for unpopulated zones but saying that GW2 is dying is nothing more then a haters word to spread lies about a game they don't enjoy.
China is released and this will boost there income alot for the next quarter.
With the chinese release of GW2 it will with no doubt make it the second biggest mmo on the market and if Anet will get there thumbes out of there asses and release an expansion then the game will grow even more.
Population wise it has to be in the top 5 easy in the mmo world right now, not that bad for a game that has been out for 2 years and hasn't released an expansion.
Wonder how big other games will be in two years? Eve like wow will never die they have a solid playerbase. ESO? My guess is F2P with a low number of players if they don't get there act together soon (hope they will).
Wildstar I really have no clue at one hand I feel they will fail big time but on the other hand I see a sucess for a solid playerbase due to their raiding options that really no one else offers except wow.
I see archage getting a smaller but loyal crowd that will keep the game alive longer then most.
Everquest next is the next big thing that could strike big but it's to early to know.
Space citizen feels to good to be true (hope it's true).
repopulation will never be huge but I think it's a game that will do great, better then the developers thought cause I don't really see them as a company who is trying to out conquer the mighty wow for the throne in the mmo market.
All these korean games coming usually never becomes anything in the west. They always look great but ends up as failures with nothing to offer but a everlasting grind.
These are just my own thoughts to the mmo market and there are no proof that I am right so you don't really have to hate me to much for wrighting this.
Me personally hope that all the games above to great cause I don't really see any of them being a threat to the population of GW2 more then the first month or two when they are released.
Its No.2 in the west. Beat all those huge IPs and 200-300 million $ MMOs. And all that as a B2P game. Somehow that isnt good enough?
And when China joins (well it joined but no numbers until next quarter ;P ) it will be quite a presence in MMOs, probably trumping even bastions like Lineage 1.
It was in a report by SuperData that was reported widely across the net. Feel free to use google and find it. While you are at it, show me where anyone states that GW2 still has more than 500K people playing. Oh that's right, you can't.......
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Oh, so you have NOTHING.
Some random numbers that were "reported wildely over teh internet" lol
thank you, but random numbers dont count.