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Allacore69
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So is this game top heavy or what? Like low level doing other classes have such a hard time finding groups for dungeons and FATES. It's kind of rediculas. I'm afraid to try other classes when I reach 50(currently lvl 45). And whats with all the elitist buttholes in the game. If it's my first time doing something, have patience. Don't call me a noob and rage quit just because we died once. It's called trial and error people. How is a new person supposed to learn if you keep rage quitting and calling them noobs. Rediculas.
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I for one havent had any hard time finding a fate group for lower level content. (im on Behemoth) and even when im playing my high level job i get thrown into 15+ dungeons with new players quite often thanks to the Roulette. And i leveld my other then main jobs from start quite easily, dungeons give good EXP now and roulette bonus helps alot. FATEs, well, they havent been touched so they are like they were in the start..
As for elitist jerks, well, every game has them and i just ignore them, leave them be, some might even come to their senses at some point and realize their way isnt the best way.
Maybe the first couple months it was like that but is not now. I have a character on every server lol and no low level dungeons are even possiable to do 6-7 months later.
I have been trying to do the Dzelame(or however you spell it) dungeon and nothing. Im in Morh Dona and there is like a billion people around and nobody seems to want to help.
I'm on adimantoise and have had no problem finding people to play with. Every zone I go into has had plenty of people of my level running around doing quests, and the atma grinding has lots of 50's farming FATES in every zone I've been in; so I never have trouble doing them if I want to.
I have a little bit of a wait for dungeons when I need to do them, but I'm DPS so I expect to have to wait.
I'm currently a 37 SMN, but I level rather slow because I spend a lot of time gathering and crafting.
I've not run into any bad attitudes in dungeons either. I tell the group I've never been in it before and so far everyone has been really cool. Especially the tanks, it's nice being asked if I want to clear the dungeon or get it done quickly, and I've been asked almost every time I've entered.
I've been pretty impressed by the community on my server.
This post doesn't make it sound like you're being legit about your complaint, and are really only interested in trying to bash the game.
You have a character on every server? OK...
Actually, i started leveling my lower jobs just recently after getting my main to 50 (PLD), a few weeks before this new patch came, so far got my SCH/SMN, Dragoon, WHM and BRD almost at 50. Im guessing you are one of teh many, many DPS classes that have long queue time.. Have you joined a FC/LS made some friends ingame and asked them? have better chances someone is heading there as well, then shouting in Mor Dhona which is mostly just a "lobby" for people waiting for Primal EX groups or doing their final push to 50..
This post doesn't make it sound like you're being legit about your complaint, and are really only interested in trying to bash the game.
You have a character on every server? OK...
Well yeah. Every NA server has a lvl 10 lancer. Just in case(at the beginning) some servers were more populated then most.
My character I use now is lvl 45 Dragoon currently on Cactuar server.
And yes I see tons of people too. Duty finder does not work and Party Finder has people with messages like, "We clear dungeons fast, no side stuff". Well that leaves me out if its a new dungeon and I need gear.
And no im not bashing the game. I adore this game. Just SOME of the player base have become.....offset.
Again at Morh Dona I see maybe, 100+ people in that area alone. I go to low levels and see 100+ people too.....as level 50 trying to sell stuff or recruit for free company.
Again the Cactuar server is booming. So booming that my 770GTX droppes me in frames when in Morh Dona or anywhere.
I'll sit in the DF queue for 20-30 minutes before getting anything, if I get anything. LFG does not work.
I mean 10000000 people around and general chat is dead. I have a free company and thanks to them I have been able to do Garuda and stuff to progress.
Actually, i started leveling my lower jobs just recently after getting my main to 50 (PLD), a few weeks before this new patch came, so far got my SCH/SMN, Dragoon, WHM and BRD almost at 50. Im guessing you are one of teh many, many DPS classes that have long queue time.. Have you joined a FC/LS made some friends ingame and asked them? have better chances someone is heading there as well, then shouting in Mor Dhona which is mostly just a "lobby" for people waiting for Primal EX groups or doing their final push to 50..
If it wasnt for my FC i would not be as far along as I am. I could not find anybody to help with Garuda (normal story) except my FC buddies.
And im not the only one who feels this way. People in my last FC started rage quitting because of elitist buttholes.
It just seems like the closer I get to 50 the harder it is to communicate with others outside of your FC.
Again i'm not bashing the game. Why would I sub and play if I hated it and wanted to bash it?
I was just stating my opinion.
OP....
Yes it is VERY top heavy but personally i did not find dungeons too tough to get a group although my Guild did help me a few times but usually you should be able to que ue because there is bonus xp doing them through the roulette.Still plenty of players going back doing other classes.
As to elitist,well i ran into one in my second dungeon,she blamed me saying i should have said i was a noob lol.I kind of knew the situation anyhow and was not interfering with anything so wondered myself why they did not trigger the sequence but i guess she was content on giving me hell lol
Anyhow it is because these people have at this point run the dungeons sooooo many times,that is personally why i hate repetitive dungeon running.I said it before and will say it again,copying any idea from Wow is a huge mistake and that is exactly Square started doing a couple years ago.
So what is happening is yes there are people farming an d doing stuff on their new classes but most are just logging in to do some crafting and run repetitive Coil or other dungeons.
As for Fates i have never found them to be too busy,what i have done is just start one and usually almost always people join in.
You see this game like all the other mmorpg's is not played like a rpg but more like a RACE to end game then grind gear,it is sad really and why i have lost interest playing rpg's.
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I think this is more to do with your experience with the game. I have not encountered problems, well problems beyond the norm of an MMO.
I re-roll quite a bit, I am not as keen to level up just 'one' class to everything (although I have on one character) and I like to make different characters as I wanted one of each race and a mixture of women and men (so I could get the set pieces from events).
I have for example recently rolled a Gladiator and a Dragoon. Now for Dungeons I normally wait about 5 mins as a tank, as a DPS anywhere between 15-30 mins. I tend to always play in peak time, I am in the UK and I play on a US server as fits my irl schedule better.
Now, I have played in 'off peak' and experienced the kinda waits you are accustomed to, but to me its no different than playing 3am in the morning and expecting there to be a large group of people at that time playing.
As for FATE Parties, they still exist, normally in the main areas, like Quarrymill, Dragonhead and Bluefrog for the most part, but they have diminished greatly with Dungeons being the prime method of XP gain.
Also a New Patch came out, so lots of people are busily continuing their progression than playing lower level characters. I know I am.
As for elitist attitude, there isn't one really. There are 'RUDE' people, but as the tank you set the pace. My first toon was a PLD and its been a while since I tanked as I typically play the BRD a heck of a lot more. So when I did the GLA I just said to people on the outset 'First time tanking this place' and people have been nice about it, not that I have had many problems mind you as stuff does come back to memory.
So, to the OP not everything is black but your problems haven't been my problems.
I re-roll quite a bit, I am not as keen to level up just 'one' class to everything (although I have on one character) and I like to make different characters as I wanted one of each race and a mixture of women and men (so I could get the set pieces from events).
I have for example recently rolled a Gladiator and a Dragoon. Now for Dungeons I normally wait about 5 mins as a tank, as a DPS anywhere between 15-30 mins. I tend to always play in peak time, I am in the UK and I play on a US server as fits my irl schedule better.
Now, I have played in 'off peak' and experienced the kinda waits you are accustomed to, but to me its no different than playing 3am in the morning and expecting there to be a large group of people at that time playing.
As for FATE Parties, they still exist, normally in the main areas, like Quarrymill, Dragonhead and Bluefrog for the most part, but they have diminished greatly with Dungeons being the prime method of XP gain.
Also a New Patch came out, so lots of people are busily continuing their progression than playing lower level characters. I know I am.
As for elitist attitude, there isn't one really. There are 'RUDE' people, but as the tank you set the pace. My first toon was a PLD and its been a while since I tanked as I typically play the BRD a heck of a lot more. So when I did the GLA I just said to people on the outset 'First time tanking this place' and people have been nice about it, not that I have had many problems mind you as stuff does come back to memory.
So, to the OP not everything is black but your problems haven't been my problems.
LOL I have had great random groups before but it just seems lately it's getting harder. Now I don't expect everybody to go through, or have been, what i'm going through.
I'd say...7/10 times I can get a good random group. The other is hard. I even tell them this is my first time and they freak out. ONLY SOME PEOPLE. NOT ALL.
FATES are almost but dead. Sometimes when I start a FATE at Dragonhead I seem to be alone or only 1 or maybe 2 people show up.
BTW what is the Roulette? And what does it do?
See i missed 2 months of the game. Played since day 1. Got a job that was too time consuming and made me tired as hell. So I missed 2 months because of that. In 2 month it seems like I left the game for a year or two.
Also what is "ATMA" and what does it do? Been hearing a lot about farming "ATMA".
I just started playing FF14 on Gilgamesh 2 weeks ago , got to lvl 20 tonite , ive had 10 minute waits maybe for each group dungeon i ahve qued for , and as far as the Fates go , i just hope most of the time it doesnt get zerged so i can get some decent contribution in....
Roulette is in your Duty finder on top of the list, its like a daily bonus on your dungeons for massive amount of EXP, after the first daily, it still gives a little bit of extra EXP if used.. it places you in a random dungeon you have unlocked and it has several categories that open up as you progress in the game.. like one for low level dungeons, one for high, trials, and high end hard dungeons. each with own rewards.
Atma is the new high level relic quest (requires the first relic to be able to start it) its just a massive grind and really boring, but it brings players that are willing to waste time to do FATEs in pretty much every corner of the world, from low level to high..
LOL I have had great random groups before but it just seems lately it's getting harder. Now I don't expect everybody to go through, or have been, what i'm going through. I'd say...7/10 times I can get a good random group. The other is hard. I even tell them this is my first time and they freak out. ONLY SOME PEOPLE. NOT ALL. FATES are almost but dead. Sometimes when I start a FATE at Dragonhead I seem to be alone or only 1 or maybe 2 people show up. BTW what is the Roulette? And what does it do? See i missed 2 months of the game. Played since day 1. Got a job that was too time consuming and made me tired as hell. So I missed 2 months because of that. In 2 month it seems like I left the game for a year or two. Also what is "ATMA" and what does it do? Been hearing a lot about farming "ATMA".
Roulette is in your Duty finder on top of the list, its like a daily bonus on your dungeons for massive amount of EXP, after the first daily, it still gives a little bit of extra EXP if used.. it places you in a random dungeon you have unlocked and it has several categories that open up as you progress in the game.. like one for low level dungeons, one for high, trials, and high end hard dungeons. each with own rewards.
Atma is the new high level relic quest (requires the first relic to be able to start it) its just a massive grind and really boring, but it brings players that are willing to waste time to do FATEs in pretty much every corner of the world, from low level to high..
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I can warn you from now but as dragoon you won't have much luck in dungeons even at 50 I'm sorry to say this having got 50 dragoon first myself
People prefer monk over dragoon IF they want a melee else they will pick black mages and/or bards for dps.
Melee is treated like shit sadly. (Which is one of the most reasons I left the game)
Gold farmers killing me too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsWA9eLX1X8
LMAO I already submitted the video to se LMAO.
Let them. I even added them to the blacklist LMAO and called em' out. So yeah no trouble on my end.
Now, if I replied and agreed and did NOT add to the blacklist then sure i'd be guilty.
But as they say, "the proof is in the pudding". And no better proof than a video no less LMAO.
Stop being paranoid. I've been cussing them out since day 1 and never got in trouble.
This is like the 5th or 6th video I sent SE about gold farmers and they have never done anything(to me that is) except send me a thank you letter in my email(wish they would give me a free month for helping them out lol). Again, video proof is the best proof.
That's purely because 99% of the Dragoon population are utter shit at the class. They chose the class with the "cool" looking armor and well, the rest is history.
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I chose them because I love how it ties in so well with Gradinia. I love DPS but have never been fond of ranged classes. I didnt like starting in Ulh Dah or Limsa Lominsa. IDC how they look. I like their skills and how well the class is put together. I like having interrupts and bleeding the enemy.
Not really.
A dragoon has high damaging hits but are slowish in execution while a monk deals less but a lot faster hits. A dragoon to maximize his damage needs to get fracture from marauders and use the other 2 DoT that dragoon have and also needs to keep them on 100% of the time AND still deal less damage than a black mage or bard. Dragoon jump skills are useless in dungeons you are risking a hit for less damage because again the animation takes so long you could have attacked twice.
There's no love for melee classes in ffxiv and that is one of the biggest reasons I got bored and left as I HATE ranged.
Most bosses deal aoe damage so parties prefer ranged classes.
It's a design flaw nothing to do with skill.
Only reason you even see melee in dungeons it's because they are the only classes that can use the high damaging ultimate else no one would want them.
Not really.
A dragoon has high damaging hits but are slowish in execution while a monk deals less but a lot faster hits. A dragoon to maximize his damage needs to get fracture from marauders and use the other 2 DoT that dragoon have and also needs to keep them on 100% of the time AND still deal less damage than a black mage or bard. Dragoon jump skills are useless in dungeons you are risking a hit for less damage because again the animation takes so long you could have attacked twice.
There's no love for melee classes in ffxiv and that is one of the biggest reasons I got bored and left as I HATE ranged.
Most bosses deal aoe damage so parties prefer ranged classes.
It's a design flaw nothing to do with skill.
Only reason you even see melee in dungeons it's because they are the only classes that can use the high damaging ultimate else no one would want them.
We have interupts that cancel AoE and a Jump Back Dragoon skill that takes us really far back out of an AoE in less then a second while everybody else is still scrambling to get out of the way. I stay alive in dungeons. My crits are exceptional too. The damage I put out and life leech to stay alive longer and parry skills and bleed effects make us ideal for any dungeon group. We also have a skill to put out more damage with a jump ability or and normal attack skill. Put it in better terms, we are power houses. I never played PvP yet but it seems like Dragoon would be a force to reckon with especially if we put bleed and use life leech and use interupts.
I played the game for 3 months got dragoon at cap first did a shit ton of dungeon runs even got relic on dragoon, warrior and summoner and dragoon +1 relic spear jumps WON'T help you on titan, ifrit, garuda, coil bosses if anything you are just making yourself taking a free hit.
- The backwards jump is nice and all I used it too but the cooldown is too long and a boss fight as you might know won't last a minute so let's not count it as something so spectacular.
- The buff that makes your next attack crit and get life is good too but only for the crit part since you are capped on how much you get health and again marauders healing ability is a ton better on dragoon+blood for blood combo.
- The parry buff is useless even on warriors the damage blocked is capped and you don't have that much health to begin with so I and any dragoon I knew didn't use it at all, it's a waste of time get the crit buff from pugilist instead. (Combo it with blood for blood)
- Yes you have a buff that makes a jump ability APART of the best jump get boosted but did you also know that that same buff makes Jump deal same damage as the 3rd combo thrust? Yea nothing special considering you are rooting yourself during all the animation and risking a hit which could be fatal.
- Dragoons have only 1 interrupt the stun which while good once you reach endgame you will put it away as you will be screwing your team. Most bosses are immune to stun anyway I suggest you pick the attack that slows the target as it will help you more.
A tip DON'T stun ifrit unless you are told to or you will wipe the team.
When you stun someone they get immune for a few seconds afterwards, you simply can't stun just for fun you have the wait the opportunity and dragoon stun takes too much to finish animation. (You will see what I mean on chimera)
I never played pvp too my information is from dungeons I did with dragoon.
From what I remember for dragoon disembowel combo, fracture/bloodbath from marauder and pug crit buff are a must to have. (There's another DoT from dragoon but it has a hard name it has 170 power I think)
If you intend to keep on with dragoon I suggest you start using them in your fights to get to know how to fight with them.
I have died once in one dungeon and once on Garuda. I think I know how to use the Dragoon. All I got from your post was, "Dragoons are useless, play another class".
I guess you have these problems but I have never had any of those problems.
And from that statement, pretty much anybody who's played the game for more than five minutes can completely discount anything you have to say.
The fact you think ranged does more damage than melee is laughable at best, as any reasonably well-played melee DPS class will obliterate a ranged one any day in terms of damage output. Yes, they're slightly more difficult to play during some fights, but the payoff is well worth it (good players know this). Yes, a black mage will do slightly better in AoE fights, and a bard will have less of a damage curve & can handle adds more easily, but monks and dragoons easily annihilate all comers in damage done, even with all the running around avoiding AoE... something which I rarely have a problem with BTW, and I'd hardly call myself a great player.
As for the original topic... I've never had a problem. No matter what class I play, I can usually get into a dungeon in 20-30 minutes, at all levels. I also tend to play during prime times though, when everybody is trying to get their daily random dungeon finished.
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