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Alchemy vs. Provisioning: Which is better for spell resists?

SatariousSatarious Member UncommonPosts: 1,073
I'm planning to spend quite a bit of time crafting during the early access period.  Which crafting skill produces consumables that are best for spell resists?  I know that provisioning typically has a longer duration, but I'm sure there are probably some benefits of using alchemy over provisioning (such as better resists, etc.).  Also, what's the typical duration for alchemy consumables?  One hour?

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  • SatariousSatarious Member UncommonPosts: 1,073
    Wow.  No crafter types out there?  I hope this lack of interest applies to the rest of the populace.  It will only make my services that more in demand. :)

  • CarnicideCarnicide Member UncommonPosts: 222
    No idea I only tested Black smithing and Wood crafting.
  • SatariousSatarious Member UncommonPosts: 1,073
    Originally posted by Carnicide
    No idea I only tested Black smithing and Wood crafting.

    Yeah, it seems like those two will be the most popular along with Clothier.  Which is pushing me more and more to pursue Alchemy or Provisioning.

  • pappacubepappacube Member UncommonPosts: 99
    I only played the beta weekends and I never harvested enough alchemy components to do any experimenting so as far as I am concerned alchemy doesn't even exist in ESO.  I am not crying about it but its just a shame since alchemy is such a major component of Elder Scrolls games.  I was just not happy with the limited number of alchemy harvest nodes I found.
  • sk8chalifsk8chalif Member UncommonPosts: 666

    any good guide for Crafting ? because i did not really understand it, to be frank i only spend a couple of minute on it and only manage to craft a helm but i notice alot of mate possiblity to change look and stuff.

     

    anyway any link to a good guide?

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  • stragen001stragen001 Member UncommonPosts: 1,720
    Originally posted by pappacube
    I only played the beta weekends and I never harvested enough alchemy components to do any experimenting so as far as I am concerned alchemy doesn't even exist in ESO.  I am not crying about it but its just a shame since alchemy is such a major component of Elder Scrolls games.  I was just not happy with the limited number of alchemy harvest nodes I found.

    There are loads they are just hard to see. If you take the passive which highlights them you will be amazed

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  • stragen001stragen001 Member UncommonPosts: 1,720
    Originally posted by sk8chalif

    any good guide for Crafting ? because i did not really understand it, to be frank i only spend a couple of minute on it and only manage to craft a helm but i notice alot of mate possiblity to change look and stuff.

     

    anyway any link to a good guide?

    http://www.esouniverse.com/guides/crafting/ 

    Cluck Cluck, Gibber Gibber, My Old Mans A Mushroom

  • pappacubepappacube Member UncommonPosts: 99
    Originally posted by stragen001
    Originally posted by pappacube
    I only played the beta weekends and I never harvested enough alchemy components to do any experimenting so as far as I am concerned alchemy doesn't even exist in ESO.  I am not crying about it but its just a shame since alchemy is such a major component of Elder Scrolls games.  I was just not happy with the limited number of alchemy harvest nodes I found.

    There are loads they are just hard to see. If you take the passive which highlights them you will be amazed

     

    I'll try that on one of my alts tomorrow and see how it goes.  You are probably right and I only saw what I ran past while there were three more nodes not far away.

  • Yoda_CloneYoda_Clone Member Posts: 219

    I made a few potions and a few provisions during Beta.

    The hard part was simply getting the recipes for provisioning; on four different characters, I only found four recipes and I never found ingredients for two of them.  For alchemy, I only found a few ingredients.

    I didn't discover any recipe for provisioning or alchemy that provided spell resist.  Provisioning seemed to provide extended (around 30min) benefits for stamina and such; potions seemed to be short-term instantaneous "perks"... which I found to be useless because of that idiotic Q-wheel...

  • SatariousSatarious Member UncommonPosts: 1,073
    Originally posted by Yoda_Clone

    I made a few potions and a few provisions during Beta.

    The hard part was simply getting the recipes for provisioning; on four different characters, I only found four recipes and I never found ingredients for two of them.  For alchemy, I only found a few ingredients.

    I didn't discover any recipe for provisioning or alchemy that provided spell resist.  Provisioning seemed to provide extended (around 30min) benefits for stamina and such; potions seemed to be short-term instantaneous "perks"... which I found to be useless because of that idiotic Q-wheel...

    I didn't focus on crafting at all during beta, but I found a TON of provisioning ingredients in various drawers, cabinets, barrels, etc.

  • spizzspizz Member UncommonPosts: 1,971
    Originally posted by Satarious
    Originally posted by Yoda_Clone

    I made a few potions and a few provisions during Beta.

    The hard part was simply getting the recipes for provisioning; on four different characters, I only found four recipes and I never found ingredients for two of them.  For alchemy, I only found a few ingredients.

    I didn't discover any recipe for provisioning or alchemy that provided spell resist.  Provisioning seemed to provide extended (around 30min) benefits for stamina and such; potions seemed to be short-term instantaneous "perks"... which I found to be useless because of that idiotic Q-wheel...

    I didn't focus on crafting at all during beta, but I found a TON of provisioning ingredients in various drawers, cabinets, barrels, etc.

    Provision is food and they imrpove your stats mainly.

    I would guess Alchemy is the way to go if you want to have potions like spell resist which last for some seconds.

  • SatariousSatarious Member UncommonPosts: 1,073
    Originally posted by spizz
    Originally posted by Satarious
    Originally posted by Yoda_Clone

    I made a few potions and a few provisions during Beta.

    The hard part was simply getting the recipes for provisioning; on four different characters, I only found four recipes and I never found ingredients for two of them.  For alchemy, I only found a few ingredients.

    I didn't discover any recipe for provisioning or alchemy that provided spell resist.  Provisioning seemed to provide extended (around 30min) benefits for stamina and such; potions seemed to be short-term instantaneous "perks"... which I found to be useless because of that idiotic Q-wheel...

    I didn't focus on crafting at all during beta, but I found a TON of provisioning ingredients in various drawers, cabinets, barrels, etc.

    Provision is food and they imrpove your stats mainly.

    I would guess Alchemy is the way to go if you want to have potions like spell resist which last for some seconds.

    Hmm.. not a big fan of consumables that only last seconds.  I may end up sticking with Blacksmithing or Enchanting.

  • Yoda_CloneYoda_Clone Member Posts: 219

    During combat, instantaneous perks like healing potions, mana potions, and stamina potions can be quite useful.  However, the interface is somewhat lacking; those sorts of items are intended to be placed on what is generally called "that damn Q-wheel".

    You press "Q" on your keyboard -- and hold it -- and a wheel with a bunch of slots comes up from which you can select an item.  If you just press "Q" quickly, it uses whatever is in slot 1... which, if it isn't what you want, is then wasted.  Trying to quickly grab a particular item off of the wheel is unfortunately more difficult than it should be.  Needing a healing potion, I frequently ended up with bait for fishing... true story.

    Which usually resulted in death.

    I can only hope that ZOS replaces "that damn Q-wheel" with some other interface widget that is actually usable.

    EDIT: Typo

  • KnotwoodKnotwood Member CommonPosts: 1,103
    alchemy, for poision potions and health potions, nothing better then a health potion to resist a nuke.
  • SatariousSatarious Member UncommonPosts: 1,073
    Originally posted by Yoda_Clone

    During combat, instantaneous perks like healing potions, mana potions, and stamina potions can be quite useful.  However, the interface is somewhat lacking; those sorts of items are intended to be placed on what is generally called "that damn Q-wheel".

    You press "Q" on your keyboard -- and hold it -- and a wheel with a bunch of slots comes up from which you can select an item.  If you just press "Q" quickly, it uses whatever is in slot 1... which, if it isn't what you want, i then wasted.  Trying to quickly grab a particular item off of the wheel is unfortunately more difficult than it should be.  Needing a healing potion, I frequently ended up with bait for fishing... true story.

    Which usually resulted in death.

    I can only hope that ZOS replaces "that damn Q-wheel" with some other interface widget that is actually usable.

    Yeah, good point.  That wheel was designed with PlayStations in mind, which makes it cumbersome for PC users.  It's pretty similar to the many annoying changes in Windows 8 for PC users in order to accommodate the tablet users of the world.

    But I can see how extremely important those healing potions will be in PvP. That's the biggest draw for alchemy....

  • DamediusDamedius Member Posts: 346

    http://tamrielfoundry.com/2014/03/crafting-features/

    A quick overview of each crafting profession. They seem to think that Alchemy, Provisioning and Enchanting will be the big money makers. 

    I can see Alchemy and Provisioning for sure because they are consumables, which means there should always be a good market for them.

  • Yoda_CloneYoda_Clone Member Posts: 219
    Originally posted by Damedius

    http://tamrielfoundry.com/2014/03/crafting-features/

    A quick overview of each crafting profession. They seem to think that Alchemy, Provisioning and Enchanting will be the big money makers. 

    I can see Alchemy and Provisioning for sure because they are consumables, which means there should always be a good market for them.

    ...except there's no place to sell them, really.  Guild auction houses aren't going to have enough visibility to replace global auction houses.

    And I really suspect that having a thousand players yelling "WTS 10 level 1 healing potions.  Send /tell to Whosits.  First come, first served (unless you're unwilling to pay for my price-gouging.)" is going to get old fast and a lot of people are going to be placed on /ignore.

    But, without a global auction house, at least we shouldn't have a lot of gold sellers spamming the chat window.

    EDIT: Typo

  • DamediusDamedius Member Posts: 346
    Originally posted by Yoda_Clone

    ...except there's no place to sell them, really.  Guild auction houses aren't going to have enough visibility to replace global auction houses.

    And I really suspect that having a thousand players yelling "WTS 10 level 1 healing potions.  Send /tell to Whosits.  First come, first served (unless you're unwilling to pay for my price-gouging.)" is going to get old fast and a lot of people are going to be placed on /ignore.

    But, without a global auction house, at least we shouldn't have a lot of gold sellers spamming the chat window.

    EDIT: Typo

    Players managed to sell stuff before there was an auction house in game. Somehow I think people will figure out how to live without one.

  • SpottyGekkoSpottyGekko Member EpicPosts: 6,916

    Alchemy provides a Spell Resist as well as a Reduce Power potion. There's also Ravage Magicka and Reduce Spell Power potions. The potions are generally fairly strong but short term effects.

     

    Alchemy has a lot of utility, I've discovered 17 effects so far, but that's not all of them by any means.

     

    I can't comment on food and drink buffs, because I didn't find any recipes higher than L10 food. All the recipes I did find were long term buffs (35 mins), but only stamina/health/magicka straight increases or regen buffs.

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