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Which faction do you think has the best morals?
7-Thunder-23
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I love this debate... As the title states. Which faction do you think has the best code of morals? and to a further extent, which factions reasoning for taking over the ruby throne and holding war against the other factions, do you believe is the most acceptable and justifiable? support your reasoning with some Lore!
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I thought the majority of stories created throughout the TES series created a lore very similar to our own history ... one of the victor enjoys the benefit of writing history. Each race thinks they have the moral high ground for whatever reason and each race will engineer atrocities other factions will revile because they were the victims.
Evil is in the eye of the beholder. This is a RP viewpoint so if you inject your own morals you will come up with your own answer so your history will influence the answer and therefore history being written but the victor still likely holds true.
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Thats unfortunate that you are missing out on a huge slice of the MMO pie. I will say that a lot of single player RPG's have much better stories than MMO's. Im not huge into lore but I love PVP-RP so i read the story while i play. There is nothing more satisfying to me than making someone rage while you kill them over and over talking in character. :P
Well, in my opinion there are two factions poisoned by elves... Dark elves and high elves...
i prefer to team up with Orcs any day compared to those Elves..
Best MMO experiences : EQ(PvE), DAoC(PvP), WoW(total package) LOTRO (worldfeel) GW2 (Artstyle and animations and worlddesign) SWTOR (Story immersion) TSW (story) ESO (character advancement)
The problem here is that all of the factions have morality which (necessarily) borrows from real world beliefs, so essentially what you are asking people to argue here is which morality is best in the real world. It's probably safer to try to accurately describe how the factions correspond to real world beliefs, and just let people draw their own conclusions (silently) on which is best.
I would say that, if framed in terms of political ideologies in the US (since I'm more familiar with those than the ones in other countries) the Aldmeri would be like liberals who honestly believe they are smarter than everyone else, and that the greater good will be served by them being in charge and running the lesser creatures lives for them. The Ebonheart Pact are a coalition group much like the Republican Party, with the law and order religious conservatives (Dunmer), the borderline anarchist Libertarians (Nords) and the Argonians who are huddling in their tent simply out a lack of options that suit them better. And the Daggerfall Covenant are pure-blooded Capitalist Robber-Barons, all hail to Gordon Gekko.
Put in terms of traditional D&D alignments rather than real world terms, AD = Lawful Good, EP = True Neutral (Not the individual nations, the combination of them), DC = Lawful Neutral.
Peace is a lie, there is only passion.
Through passion, I gain strength.
Through strength, I gain power.
Through power, I gain victory.
Through victory, my chains are broken.
The Force shall free me.
Well, I heard that the Covenant are the only alliance that aims to bring peace to the masses. I didn't find any reference for that in game, but maybe I didn't progress far enough.
From my in game experience, I can say for sure that I wouldn't be able to do quest after quest for the highly annoying High Elf Queen. I mean, seriously, how many times does she have to tell me that she was an adventurer while still being completely useless in every combat situation concerning her?
I didn't like the Pact because there are just too many quests referencing how they exploit the poor Argonians.
Lore stuff aside, we always side with the underdogs, so Covenant it is. Given the amount of broken quests on Daggerfall side this will be the faction for the hardcore players with high frustration tolerance.
No. Really. I'm not. I didn't care why Pacman ran round munching on "pac-dots" back in the 80's and I don't care about "the lore" of ESO either. To me they're equally irrelevant as regards enjoying the game
I would get bored to death playing mmorpgs just for the game mechanics. I can understand this in shooters or other games that you cant play while watching the TV, but mmorpgs? I find this interesting though, hard to believe even, does this mean that it's all the same for you if the setting is World of Warcraft or Star Wars as long as the game mechanics are solid / to your liking?
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twizzle sticks of a lolly that you stuck in bags of moonsugar.
moral of the story is Theons great speech, then he meets those people. who does not like hodor ?
I am thinking I am stormborn, except I am snow.
I like simple complex.
My moral is.
My Empress will be.
She needs to choose herself.
Dog clegane rather than the mountain
servant of light or the darkness
morals break like analogys
when they do not fit.
(aside actual moral of the story, to break chains of a shattered god ?.|.? , Kallor stuck in eternity, not a lifeless force an empress can call upon. kitty claws, tigers and all. add some whales and f2p, destroy all unlike kallor not /ignore. Voice spoke idiocy, take kallor down now, fool)
the problem of lag is the disrespect of service. (aside not a beta player, beta destroys the world)
Leaves me with an actual empress not in costume to destroy the world ?
just a chance to kill
(khajiit is always, dog told a story, vampyre burns they build pyres. To escape the curse of undead)
to take the soul of a kitten, perched on a wall like one of those mocking birds.
to examine the angels without fearing the angels
to be thwarted.
Quick Ben I feel, Empress control them, or I will kill them.
within lore, lore is-ish, those who explore a world
then kill when needed to.
morals are, I am tempted to say, best fried with mushrooms. I feel I have been played.
Every faction is aiming for expansion and power so there is not really a side with a true code of morals, its like in real life.
And just like in real life, regardless of what third party observers think, each faction believes it is morally correct.
The Aldmeri honestly believe the "lesser" races need their guiding hand to rule them, for their own good. The Covenant believes that commerce is the most important thing, and thinks that restoring the human led Empire will be good for business. The Pact basically just wants each individual kingdom to be left the hell alone and not have an Empire micro-managing them, and believe the only way to make that happen is by controlling the Empire.
Peace is a lie, there is only passion.
Through passion, I gain strength.
Through strength, I gain power.
Through power, I gain victory.
Through victory, my chains are broken.
The Force shall free me.
Daggerfall Covenant seems to be the one which is more "good". They got one lawful race (Breton) and two honorable one's (Orcs and Red Guard). Lawful Good is what comes closest.
Ebonheart pact seems to be a chaotic bunch. Devious Dark Elves, ruthless Nords and sneaky Argonian. Chaotic Neutral is how I see this bunch.
Can't really place the Aldmeri Dominion though. High Elves seem a bit arrogant and aloof. And Wood Elves and Kajit seem pretty neutral.
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As others have said seems pretty boring and pointless to play a game if you have no interest in what makes up 90% of it's content ( if we're talking about current MMO's). Game-play just isn't good enough in any MMO I've played to play it only for that.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Given that TES Orcs are Elves as well, that doesn't really make sense.
I would place DC as lawful neutral more than lawful good. "Good" means placing the interests of others above your own, and DC's main motive seems to be restoring stability so their own trade can flourish. AD is the "Good" faction because their desire to take over is based primarily on a belief that the "lesser" races are incapable of competent self rule, and *need* the Aldmeri to guide them. With EP, it's hard to assign an alignment to the faction as a whole, because the constituent nations are very different. The Dunmer are *rigidly* lawful, probably more so than any other group in ESO, but the Nords and Argonians are both quite Chaotic. That's why I would label the faction as a whole as True Neutral.
Peace is a lie, there is only passion.
Through passion, I gain strength.
Through strength, I gain power.
Through power, I gain victory.
Through victory, my chains are broken.
The Force shall free me.