I'd rather they removed the faction lock. Don't want it as a pre order feature, or upgrade option. It's something a lot of people have really been vocal about not wanting in the game, and I don't like it being used to drive sales.
Remove it and they get another sale. I'm not interested in being gimmicked into buying.
Edit: For clarity, I'm saying that everyone, regardless of when they buy, should be able to choose the faction they want to play in.
I dont have a problem with the imperial race in the CE. But i have a huge problem with any race can join any alliance. But it is what it is, if i hate it when play then i just wont sub after that. But its almost impossible for them to change it now because they have already sold so many CE. The only thing they could do is if a race joins a different faction then they could penalize them in some way. I hope they do that but i know the people that want to be in another faction will be outraged. Impossible to make everybody happy and this time i am not happy and i am normally very easy going with my MMOS and dont analyze every detail like most people on here. I think it will still be a great game though but who knows how much this decision will effect me.
It's not pay to win, it's early access to a "race" that will most likely be purchasable after launch.
And I just love how people feel they can dictate to a private company, what they can sell and how much.
I wonder how many of those that created/signed the petition, how amendable they would be to a bunch of random people started telling them how and what they could do with a product they produced. But of course most of these probably never produced anything anyways.
Peace is a lie, there is only passion. Through passion, I gain strength. Through strength, I gain power. Through power, I gain victory. Through victory, my chains are broken. The Force shall free me.
There are petitions for people being fired for doing their jobs, people who have gotten away with rape and murder, and petitions to stop corporations from engaging in slave labor. And then there is this.
I can not remember winning or losing a single debate on the internet.
There are petitions for people being fired for doing their jobs, people who have gotten away with rape and murder, and petitions to stop corporations from engaging in slave labor. And then there is this.
Don't forget the petition to deport Bieber back to Canada!
"People who tell you youre awesome are useless. No, dangerous.
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It's not pay to win, it's early access to a "race" that will most likely be purchasable after launch.
And I just love how people feel they can dictate to a private company, what they can sell and how much.
I wonder how many of those that created/signed the petition, how amendable they would be to a bunch of random people started telling them how and what they could do with a product they produced. But of course most of these probably never produced anything anyways.
Don't like it, don't buy it. Simple
Actually, people have a huge say in what a company produces and how it is produced. It's a part of normal, every day life. I'm not sure where you were trying to go with that...
So far, no one knows if it is available later. The fact that it is purchasable and a unique racial skill comes with it, makes it the very definition of 'pay to win'. It's exclusive content that isn't cosmetic. So you are wrong there too. By definition even.
There are petitions for people being fired for doing their jobs, people who have gotten away with rape and murder, and petitions to stop corporations from engaging in slave labor. And then there is this.
Exactly, some people need to get a life. I'm tired of reading too many QQing posts on the forums.
Originally posted by CazNeerg Heh, 22 supporters. Look at all the outrage!
I think the obvious reason here is that most people don't believe it will matter. And they would be right. They are already taking pre-orders on their game, and it's too late to change anything at this time. If this petition were made, say, six months to a year ago, then I'd bet it would get far more support.
I think right now, people are pissed. But they know it's pointless. The damage has been done, and there is really no hope to change course.
There are petitions for people being fired for doing their jobs, people who have gotten away with rape and murder, and petitions to stop corporations from engaging in slave labor. And then there is this.
Don't forget the petition to deport Bieber back to Canada!
They actually got enough votes on that one. I'm looking forward to the White House's response. I don't think it will be as good as the Death Star, but it should be entertaining. :-)
I can not remember winning or losing a single debate on the internet.
I'd rather they removed the faction lock. Don't want it as a pre order feature, or upgrade option. It's something a lot of people have really been vocal about not wanting in the game, and I don't like it being used to drive sales.
Pretty much my feeling.
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Originally posted by Betaguy Come on folks, join the 10 other people that signed it. I bet they don't break 100.
Not a chance, I want them to keep the change because of how bad it makes them look in both the eyes of the many TES fans that got them to try to offer what they want with this change, even though it was tied to wanting an open world so pissed them off more, and the added effect of making some of the diehard DaoC players that loved the game pissed off for now not having their past come alive again.
It will lead to more idiotic moves to try to please TES and DaoC fans, which is not possible in most cases because they are opposites! Lets see if they can manage to drive a few more people away before the end.
"People who tell you youre awesome are useless. No, dangerous.
They are worse than useless because you want to believe them. They will defend you against critiques that are valid. They will seduce you into believing you are done learning, or into thinking that your work is better than it actually is." ~Raph Koster http://www.raphkoster.com/2013/10/14/on-getting-criticism/
Well this petition has taken off like a wildfire . . . still at a massive 22 outraged TESO fans. At this rate, it'll be in the millions by 3072 after the polar ice caps have melted and re-frozen. Although, by that point, it won't be humans signing the petition, it'll be the robots who took over earth after wiping us out.
Originally posted by Betaguy Come on folks, join the 10 other people that signed it. I bet they don't break 100.
Not a chance, I want them to keep the change because of how bad it makes them look in both the eyes of the many TES fans that got them to try to offer what they want with this change, even though it was tied to wanting an open world so pissed them off more, and the added effect of making some of the diehard DaoC players that loved the game pissed off for now not having their past come alive again.
It will lead to more idiotic moves to try to please TES and DaoC fans, which is not possible in most cases because they are opposites! Lets see if they can manage to drive a few more people away before the end.
Wishful thinking on your part.
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Originally posted by Betaguy Come on folks, join the 10 other people that signed it. I bet they don't break 100.
Not a chance, I want them to keep the change because of how bad it makes them look in both the eyes of the many TES fans that got them to try to offer what they want with this change, even though it was tied to wanting an open world so pissed them off more, and the added effect of making some of the diehard DaoC players that loved the game pissed off for now not having their past come alive again.
It will lead to more idiotic moves to try to please TES and DaoC fans, which is not possible in most cases because they are opposites! Lets see if they can manage to drive a few more people away before the end.
Wishful thinking on your part.
Funny enough, one of the most vocal supporters of the game on this site just started this thread..............
I cant wait for the game to go F2P, this one could be the end of big budget corporate fed crap themeparks, and the end of their reign didn't come soon enough, too bad the genre was trashed by it.
"People who tell you youre awesome are useless. No, dangerous.
They are worse than useless because you want to believe them. They will defend you against critiques that are valid. They will seduce you into believing you are done learning, or into thinking that your work is better than it actually is." ~Raph Koster http://www.raphkoster.com/2013/10/14/on-getting-criticism/
Originally posted by CazNeerg Heh, 22 supporters. Look at all the outrage!
Yeah that is one HELL of a vocal MINORITY.
And just think, some people tried to say this was just like the response to Mass Effect 3's endings.
Peace is a lie, there is only passion. Through passion, I gain strength. Through strength, I gain power. Through power, I gain victory. Through victory, my chains are broken. The Force shall free me.
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Funny thing.
I'd rather they removed the faction lock. Don't want it as a pre order feature, or upgrade option. It's something a lot of people have really been vocal about not wanting in the game, and I don't like it being used to drive sales.
Remove it and they get another sale. I'm not interested in being gimmicked into buying.
Edit: For clarity, I'm saying that everyone, regardless of when they buy, should be able to choose the faction they want to play in.
It's not pay to win, it's early access to a "race" that will most likely be purchasable after launch.
And I just love how people feel they can dictate to a private company, what they can sell and how much.
I wonder how many of those that created/signed the petition, how amendable they would be to a bunch of random people started telling them how and what they could do with a product they produced. But of course most of these probably never produced anything anyways.
Don't like it, don't buy it. Simple
Peace is a lie, there is only passion.
Through passion, I gain strength.
Through strength, I gain power.
Through power, I gain victory.
Through victory, my chains are broken.
The Force shall free me.
There are petitions for people being fired for doing their jobs, people who have gotten away with rape and murder, and petitions to stop corporations from engaging in slave labor. And then there is this.
I can not remember winning or losing a single debate on the internet.
Don't forget the petition to deport Bieber back to Canada!
"People who tell you youre awesome are useless. No, dangerous.
They are worse than useless because you want to believe them. They will defend you against critiques that are valid. They will seduce you into believing you are done learning, or into thinking that your work is better than it actually is." ~Raph Koster
http://www.raphkoster.com/2013/10/14/on-getting-criticism/
Rofl ! Good one mate. That Petition gave me a good laugh.
Man..these are indeed very Crazy Times.
I can't believe that someone rly started this.
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Actually, people have a huge say in what a company produces and how it is produced. It's a part of normal, every day life. I'm not sure where you were trying to go with that...
So far, no one knows if it is available later. The fact that it is purchasable and a unique racial skill comes with it, makes it the very definition of 'pay to win'. It's exclusive content that isn't cosmetic. So you are wrong there too. By definition even.
Exactly, some people need to get a life. I'm tired of reading too many QQing posts on the forums.
I think the obvious reason here is that most people don't believe it will matter. And they would be right. They are already taking pre-orders on their game, and it's too late to change anything at this time. If this petition were made, say, six months to a year ago, then I'd bet it would get far more support.
I think right now, people are pissed. But they know it's pointless. The damage has been done, and there is really no hope to change course.
They actually got enough votes on that one. I'm looking forward to the White House's response. I don't think it will be as good as the Death Star, but it should be entertaining. :-)
I can not remember winning or losing a single debate on the internet.
Pretty much my feeling.
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All I know is that should they give in to the whiners, they had better replace the lost bonuses with something awesome to make up for it.
Maybe a reserved server for CE players only so we don't have to be around people who sign petitions regarding video game collector's edition bonuses.
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The reviewer has a mishapen head
Which means his opinion is skewed
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Not a chance, I want them to keep the change because of how bad it makes them look in both the eyes of the many TES fans that got them to try to offer what they want with this change, even though it was tied to wanting an open world so pissed them off more, and the added effect of making some of the diehard DaoC players that loved the game pissed off for now not having their past come alive again.
It will lead to more idiotic moves to try to please TES and DaoC fans, which is not possible in most cases because they are opposites! Lets see if they can manage to drive a few more people away before the end.
"People who tell you youre awesome are useless. No, dangerous.
They are worse than useless because you want to believe them. They will defend you against critiques that are valid. They will seduce you into believing you are done learning, or into thinking that your work is better than it actually is." ~Raph Koster
http://www.raphkoster.com/2013/10/14/on-getting-criticism/
Well this petition has taken off like a wildfire . . . still at a massive 22 outraged TESO fans. At this rate, it'll be in the millions by 3072 after the polar ice caps have melted and re-frozen. Although, by that point, it won't be humans signing the petition, it'll be the robots who took over earth after wiping us out.
Wishful thinking on your part.
Funny enough, one of the most vocal supporters of the game on this site just started this thread..............
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/6159506/thread/404127#6159506
I cant wait for the game to go F2P, this one could be the end of big budget corporate fed crap themeparks, and the end of their reign didn't come soon enough, too bad the genre was trashed by it.
"People who tell you youre awesome are useless. No, dangerous.
They are worse than useless because you want to believe them. They will defend you against critiques that are valid. They will seduce you into believing you are done learning, or into thinking that your work is better than it actually is." ~Raph Koster
http://www.raphkoster.com/2013/10/14/on-getting-criticism/
LOL that shit is on Change.ORG.
DON'T WORRY GUYS! We'll get OBAMA to make sure ESO is DAOC 2 for us!!!
So hilarious and lame I swear all the QQ is just too amazing. Thank you Zeni!
Yeah that is one HELL of a vocal MINORITY.
And just think, some people tried to say this was just like the response to Mass Effect 3's endings.
Peace is a lie, there is only passion.
Through passion, I gain strength.
Through strength, I gain power.
Through power, I gain victory.
Through victory, my chains are broken.
The Force shall free me.