The fact that D3 lets you change builds every time you want goes against hardcore convictions of D2 generation. I personally hate to be locked into a build and D3 lets me simply get creative without wasting hundreds of hours just to try another combination of stats (they call it complexity , i call it pointless waste of time).
Different strokes for different folks i guess.
But without saying D3 has far superior gameplay. Blizzard do know how to make things feel good and fun.
1. Diablo 3 / Marvel Heroes (tie) 2. Victor Vran 3. Grim Dawn 4. Van Helsing series (except 3) 5. Path of Exile
All very good games. PoE is great for a free title, but it's very much stuck in the early 2000's while the rest of the genre has moved on to bigger and better things. That being said, the leagues can be a lot of fun, and I wish other ARPGs with better combat would copy that feature.
AN' DERE AIN'T NO SUCH FING AS ENUFF DAKKA, YA GROT! Enuff'z more than ya got an' less than too much an' there ain't no such fing as too much dakka. Say dere is, and me Squiggoff'z eatin' tonight!
We are born of the blood. Made men by the blood. Undone by the blood. Our eyes are yet to open. FEAR THE OLD BLOOD.
1. Diablo 3 / Marvel Heroes (tie) 2. Victor Vran 3. Grim Dawn 4. Van Helsing series (except 3) 5. Path of Exile
All very good games. PoE is great for a free title, but it's very much stuck in the early 2000's while the rest of the genre has moved on to bigger and better things. That being said, the leagues can be a lot of fun, and I wish other ARPGs with better combat would copy that feature.
Diablo 3 and Marvel Heroes play and feel like kiddie ARPG's. Which they are!
Have not played Victor Vran as of yet. But Grim Dawn is a fantastic game!
Path of Exile is frigdiculous past the first chapter!
I put both Grim Dawn and POE as equals. Both have different styles, but both are fantastic at what they do!
1. Diablo 3 / Marvel Heroes (tie) 2. Victor Vran 3. Grim Dawn 4. Van Helsing series (except 3) 5. Path of Exile
All very good games. PoE is great for a free title, but it's very much stuck in the early 2000's while the rest of the genre has moved on to bigger and better things. That being said, the leagues can be a lot of fun, and I wish other ARPGs with better combat would copy that feature.
Diablo 3 and Marvel Heroes play and feel like kiddie ARPG's. Which they are!
Have not played Victor Vran as of yet. But Grim Dawn is a fantastic game!
Path of Exile is frigdiculous past the first chapter!
I put both Grim Dawn and POE as equals. Both have different styles, but both are fantastic at what they do!
I get so tired of any time people don't like something all of a sudden it's a 'kiddie' game. Why can't you just dislike a game without insulting those who do enjoy it. There are plenty of adults who enjoy every single one of those games. I have tried PoE multiple times never got into, I bought Grim Dawn this summer I think it's ok, and I enjoy Diablo 3 more than the other's. However I can see why people like any of them they all have things they do well and things they don't.
1. Diablo 3 / Marvel Heroes (tie) 2. Victor Vran 3. Grim Dawn 4. Van Helsing series (except 3) 5. Path of Exile
All very good games. PoE is great for a free title, but it's very much stuck in the early 2000's while the rest of the genre has moved on to bigger and better things. That being said, the leagues can be a lot of fun, and I wish other ARPGs with better combat would copy that feature.
Diablo 3 and Marvel Heroes play and feel like kiddie ARPG's. Which they are!
Have not played Victor Vran as of yet. But Grim Dawn is a fantastic game!
Path of Exile is frigdiculous past the first chapter!
I put both Grim Dawn and POE as equals. Both have different styles, but both are fantastic at what they do!
I get so tired of any time people don't like something all of a sudden it's a 'kiddie' game. Why can't you just dislike a game without insulting those who do enjoy it. There are plenty of adults who enjoy every single one of those games. I have tried PoE multiple times never got into, I bought Grim Dawn this summer I think it's ok, and I enjoy Diablo 3 more than the other's. However I can see why people like any of them they all have things they do well and things they don't.
I never said that I disliked them. But Diablo 3 is by far very simplistic. My grandson who is 8 has finished the game twice so far. So "YES" it is a kiddie game. Personal experience over opinion!
What age group do you think Marvel Heroes favors? Where do you see MH ads outside of this site? Honestly I like Marvel Heroes. They have added things to make it a much more dynamic game. But it still directly markets kiddies above other group base.
1. Diablo 3 / Marvel Heroes (tie) 2. Victor Vran 3. Grim Dawn 4. Van Helsing series (except 3) 5. Path of Exile
All very good games. PoE is great for a free title, but it's very much stuck in the early 2000's while the rest of the genre has moved on to bigger and better things. That being said, the leagues can be a lot of fun, and I wish other ARPGs with better combat would copy that feature.
Diablo 3 and Marvel Heroes play and feel like kiddie ARPG's. Which they are!
Have not played Victor Vran as of yet. But Grim Dawn is a fantastic game!
Path of Exile is frigdiculous past the first chapter!
I put both Grim Dawn and POE as equals. Both have different styles, but both are fantastic at what they do!
I get so tired of any time people don't like something all of a sudden it's a 'kiddie' game. Why can't you just dislike a game without insulting those who do enjoy it. There are plenty of adults who enjoy every single one of those games. I have tried PoE multiple times never got into, I bought Grim Dawn this summer I think it's ok, and I enjoy Diablo 3 more than the other's. However I can see why people like any of them they all have things they do well and things they don't.
I never said that I disliked them. But Diablo 3 is by far very simplistic. My grandson who is 8 has finished the game twice so far. So "YES" it is a kiddie game. Personal experience over opinion!
What age group do you think Marvel Heroes favors? Where do you see MH ads outside of this site? Honestly I like Marvel Heroes. They have added things to make it a much more dynamic game. But it still directly markets kiddies above other group base.
We can disagree, that is what forums are for.
Well saying a kid can beat a game doesn't mean it's a 'kids' game. Do you think Diablo 3 is really being marketed for your 8 year old? I didn't mention Marvel heroes because I personall\y have absolutely no experiance with the game, I know basically nothing about it other than it's an ARPG based at least loosely on Marvel lore.
I was playing Diablo in 1996 I was 11 and I still don't think that it was a kids game.
I'm totally ok with saying Diablo 3 is simplistic, in a lot of ways it is. Yes there is some depth to it but it's really only for the 'hardcore' who have tons of hours to grind. I guess thats where I disagree though, simplistic may mean that a kid can play and enjoy a game however to me that doesn't make it a kids game.
I think Grim Dawn does a good job of being simplistic yet not overly convoluted like PoE. It takes the middle ground and like I said I do think it's ok.
While this may be true prior to ROS; it no longer pertains to D3 which has improved a vast amount. ROS added quite a bit(Granted should have been in launch) and D3 has been steadily improving with a huge free content patch coming in a week or so. Is D3 as good as D2? Not yet, but it is coming very close now and could overtake the throne with its better combat mechanics, ect.
They'll be adding runestones and I heard rumor of another expac.
I think POE is a better sequal to D2, but I do not think it blows D3 away. While they share the same market, they both cater to different ends of it and those who like both can play both.
I never said that I disliked them. But Diablo 3 is by far very simplistic. My grandson who is 8 has finished the game twice so far. So "YES" it is a kiddie game. Personal experience over opinion!
What age group do you think Marvel Heroes favors? Where do you see MH ads outside of this site? Honestly I like Marvel Heroes. They have added things to make it a much more dynamic game. But it still directly markets kiddies above other group base.
We can disagree, that is what forums are for.
.... if you think diablo is too simple, maybe you should have tried to play past torment1 ^^
do you guys think PoE ended after it's story did? no? then why do you think diablo did.....
see the prob? you are a casual commenting on end content, which you OBVIOUSLY never saw if you think your grandson finished diablo twice....
"I'll never grow up, never grow up, never grow up! Not me!"
I think POE is a better sequal to D2, but I do not think it blows D3 away. While they share the same market, they both cater to different ends of it and those who like both can play both.
I never said that I disliked them. But Diablo 3 is by far very simplistic. My grandson who is 8 has finished the game twice so far. So "YES" it is a kiddie game. Personal experience over opinion!
What age group do you think Marvel Heroes favors? Where do you see MH ads outside of this site? Honestly I like Marvel Heroes. They have added things to make it a much more dynamic game. But it still directly markets kiddies above other group base.
We can disagree, that is what forums are for.
.... if you think diablo is too simple, maybe you should have tried to play past torment1 ^^
do you guys think PoE ended after it's story did? no? then why do you think diablo did.....
see the prob? you are a casual commenting on end content, which you OBVIOUSLY never saw if you think your grandson finished diablo twice....
To be honest I like diablo 3 but it is not a deep experience regardless of the difficulty setting. I am not some super serious Diablo 3 player but I have easily surpassed torment 6 and am able to handle mid tier greater rifts. Diablo 3 is a different approach to the series (I imagine this is largely due to being a pretty much entirely different dev team), where Diablo 1 was kindof a dungeon crawling adventure horror experience, Diablo 3 is practically a high fantasy arcade rpg (Diablo 2 lies somewhere inbetween but leaning a little more towards the first game than the third). I like both but I feel like the different kind of game doesn't do the IP justice.
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If you are holding out for the perfect game, the only game you play will be the waiting one.
Different strokes for different folks i guess.
But without saying D3 has far superior gameplay. Blizzard do know how to make things feel good and fun.
1. Diablo 3 / Marvel Heroes (tie)
2. Victor Vran
3. Grim Dawn
4. Van Helsing series (except 3)
5. Path of Exile
All very good games. PoE is great for a free title, but it's very much stuck in the early 2000's while the rest of the genre has moved on to bigger and better things. That being said, the leagues can be a lot of fun, and I wish other ARPGs with better combat would copy that feature.
AN' DERE AIN'T NO SUCH FING AS ENUFF DAKKA, YA GROT! Enuff'z more than ya got an' less than too much an' there ain't no such fing as too much dakka. Say dere is, and me Squiggoff'z eatin' tonight!
We are born of the blood. Made men by the blood. Undone by the blood. Our eyes are yet to open. FEAR THE OLD BLOOD.
#IStandWithVic
Have not played Victor Vran as of yet. But Grim Dawn is a fantastic game!
Path of Exile is frigdiculous past the first chapter!
I put both Grim Dawn and POE as equals. Both have different styles, but both are fantastic at what they do!
I have tried PoE multiple times never got into, I bought Grim Dawn this summer I think it's ok, and I enjoy Diablo 3 more than the other's. However I can see why people like any of them they all have things they do well and things they don't.
What age group do you think Marvel Heroes favors? Where do you see MH ads outside of this site? Honestly I like Marvel Heroes. They have added things to make it a much more dynamic game. But it still directly markets kiddies above other group base.
We can disagree, that is what forums are for.
I didn't mention Marvel heroes because I personall\y have absolutely no experiance with the game, I know basically nothing about it other than it's an ARPG based at least loosely on Marvel lore.
I was playing Diablo in 1996 I was 11 and I still don't think that it was a kids game.
I'm totally ok with saying Diablo 3 is simplistic, in a lot of ways it is. Yes there is some depth to it but it's really only for the 'hardcore' who have tons of hours to grind. I guess thats where I disagree though, simplistic may mean that a kid can play and enjoy a game however to me that doesn't make it a kids game.
I think Grim Dawn does a good job of being simplistic yet not overly convoluted like PoE. It takes the middle ground and like I said I do think it's ok.
They'll be adding runestones and I heard rumor of another expac.
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if you think diablo is too simple, maybe you should have tried to play past torment1 ^^
do you guys think PoE ended after it's story did? no? then why do you think diablo did.....
see the prob? you are a casual commenting on end content, which you OBVIOUSLY never saw if you think your grandson finished diablo twice....
"I'll never grow up, never grow up, never grow up! Not me!"