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Logic tells you that it is few people. Just use your brain. 1st you need someone that plays the same game as you. 2. Then you need someone that has a desire to cheat 3. next they have to find the way to cheat 4. then they have to have the capability to implement the cheat, 5. they need to believe the cheat will work and that they will get away with it without getting caught, 6. they need to go in game and actually use it....etc. Also in Darkfall in particular if you get caught you stand to lose box price + whatever sub money you spent + money on cheat which is a cost I'm sure more folks than not are unwilling to pay. I'm sure I'm leaving steps out of this process but as each step is added the number of people possibly hacking in the game you play decreases exponentially.
It's certainly possible that hacking is more rampant in DFUW than in other titles, but it's highly unlikely it's any higher than the average. Since anyone who's played video games long enough has the clear idea that the majority of people aren't hacking (duh) in the majority of games odds are this holds true in DFUW as well.
Trying to support the claim that there are tons of hackers or that there is a higher % of hackers in DFUW is a much harder argument to support than that they have the same exact hacking issues as any similar game (in the case of DFUW probably best compared to FPS's).
Steam: Neph
I'm digging the deductive, a priori method.
TBH if some players aren't cheating then they have to be pretty 'hardcore' to put up with that.
It has a much larger impact in games like DFUW, where you lose everything on you character when you die. Also, most games try to do something about it, we've had the same hacks since DF1 circa 2009.
People hacking in most games is nothing more than a nuisance, in DFUW it's considerable time and gear lost.
Where have all the "good" shills gone?
You do know you just supported my argument rather than countering it right? Each one of those steps just exponentially raised the opportunity that someone would stop there. I don't know what kind of underwear you buy but mine is no where near $50. Most people don't like throwing away money even in small amounts (there's tons of research on this most people aren't like you apparently). Also progression is really fast in DFUW anyway so I can just say:
1. Insert new player keeps getting ganked (safe zones what? lol @ your argument in the 1st place)
2. New player has played tons of video games before and wants revenge.
3. New player plays game like normal person and skills up
4. New player takes revenge.
Ever hear of Occam's Razor? The series of events I put forth are the simplest and most likely series of steps a player will take and therefore probably the outcome of the scenario you put forth. Prove your series of events is more likely than mine which is the standard for the majority of gamers across games. Most people in most games do not hack. Prove that there are more hackers in DFUW than the avg in other games of the same nature. Odds are there just plain aren't. That's math and logic for you. Again your argument is pretty much impossible to support, entirely anecdotal, and immaterial. You should just stop wasting your time. You're wrong.
Steam: Neph
Dude anyone that plays DFUW knows you can replace your trash gear in 5 seconds after death. Come on be real. The bigger impact of hacking is on those that are trying to enjoy the game and the hacking interferes with their enjoyment. Since you pretty much can play DFUW without encountering anyone I'm much more worried about hacking and its impact in say BF3 or PS2.
As an aside, if everyone (or the majority) that beats you is hacking then you must be the greatest player of the game in the world already because there's no one that can beat you without hacking. That's called the scrub mentality. I'm just going to leave this here: Introducing....the Scrub.
Steam: Neph
I fail to see any point to your post, other than hacking isnt a problem in DFUW due to its limited population.
Where have all the "good" shills gone?
Your point: Hacking matters more in DFUW because you lose loot when you die.
His point: Losing the loot isn't a big deal because loot is easy to come by.
You said it has a larger impact in DFUW than other games and I disagreed. That's the point. I didn't say hacking isn't a problem in any part of my post. I just said it has a larger impact on my enjoyment of games where I am constantly pitted against others vs. those where I can go days without seeing anyone if I want. Losing gear also doesn't even sting because it's all easily replacable (your argument was it has a larger impact due to gear loss but if you don't care about the gear you lost there is no impact?). Hence as an example, I hate hackers in PS2 way more because I am much more likely to encounter one based on how the game works.
At no point in any of my posts did I say hacking does not occur or is not a problem in DFUW. I just said it's no more or less common than any other game of a similar nature. Why? Cause math and logic say so. Therefore, since hacking is no more common than in any other game, why should anyone be alarmed, angered, or even bat an eyelash about it? They shouldn't.
Steam: Neph
Losing loot does matter because nice gear takes a long time to farm. So if you run into a string of bad luck and the groups you role with get killed then expect to farm up the mats for the next week to get a few more sets. Does anyone here actually play Darkfall?
The worst thing about knowing that there are "some" people that are using cheats, is that it introduces the element of doubt. How can you ever again be sure that the person that killed you wasn't cheating in some way ?
You can never be sure.
Yes. 85% of the time I was in spiked, 15% of the time I was in intricate. Losing gear meant I had to use spiked instead of intricate for a little while. It really wasn't a huge deal. That's the whole point of a full loot game with craftable gear. You don't have a +100 sword of purple spikes that takes a year of raiding to get.
You could never be sure before. The solution is to play the game and stop worrying about what advantages you think the other guy MAY have.
1st: If you got bad luck it sucks and I've had it happen but that's got nothing to do with hacking at all. Maybe one of your deaths was due to hackers (if that) so the sting is not coming from hacking but just from how the game itself works. If I lost 10 gear bags in a row to hackers then yeah this would be totally valid, but that's almost never the case based on what can be assumed to be the number of hackers in DFUW (similar to the avg in other games).
However, it does not take that long to farm. Especially if you just buy it or are in a clan, etc. Even if it did you're basically saying "When you lose loot you have to keep playing and do other things besides fighting people for a while." That doesn't hurt as bad as every time I spawn I get sniped in the head for a OHK in BF3 by a hacker.
Steam: Neph
^^This so much. That's also how you actually improve at games too. Hence my earlier link to Sirlin.
@SpottyGecko - there are some people cheating in every single online mp game you play. I'm sorry that you were unaware of this. Now you can wonder in every title you play
Steam: Neph
In other words, just ignore it? LOL classic
Where have all the "good" shills gone?
What I'm saying is you don't know if there's something to ignore. When you die to somebody, you don't know if it's because they're hacking or not. So no, I'm not saying ignore it. I'm saying don't jump to conclusions.
But Naphaerius is right, you don't get better at a game by making up excuses. Anytime I heard a clan member complaining on mumble about dying to somebody who was "hacking" it was almost always a scrub doing the complaining. It's the same thing in sc2. That's not a coincidence.
That's one of the dumbest thing I have ever heard. You're actually giving credit to AV for not dealing with hackers and let them play the game like they want.... Hacking can be 100% eliminated if you have decent devs who knows what they are doing. I guess you know next to nothing about hacking. You should search google a bit sometimes because proofs are all over the place and you could even hack easily in the 1st game. You just won't easily find those hacks since you usually need to pay/sub to get them.
I speedhacked in DF1 and I paid nothing. Most people in my clan were speedhacking for awhile. Anybody remember Gentlemen and Jet Boom?
We also could increase the rate of fire on magic missles and fire balls etc to 20x normal, but because something like that can be easily detected we used it in rare occasions, like big fights where theres a lot going on and its hard to notice.
Also we modified our armor/attack values, which is still possible in DFUW. To lessen the chance the of detection we just increased the values by a little bit so it gave us an edge over most players, but alot of people in DF1 knew how to do this, so we were probably just leveling the playing field.
Where on earth did you read that?
OMG in away i love reading this its realy sad this cheating is still going on in darkfall after all these years.
Dakrfall from day one it was cheating paradise and it seems Darkfall 2 still no change lol.
Thats when you design your game client side so players can easly hack this was in DFO already i would have thought they would have solved this problem by now but with nub devs it seems not:P
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Lvling playing field not only dumb also most stupid reason to cheat.
Corruption and dumb reasons for cheating, im affraid this will never stop, im even convinced most even enjoy ruin other honest players there gaming experience ive seen this plenty of times in Darkfall one.
LOLIKILLYOURMOUNT was such clan and one player in particular of that clan(he was banned several times but keep buying new game to cheat again, was famous for cheating and ruin other players life.
The Mircs where also huge cheaters in Darkfall 1 they even where aloud to promote Darkfall by devs lol.
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MEMORY:Corsair PLAT.DDR3 1866MHZ 16GB
PSU:Corsair AX1200i
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I speedhacked in DF1 and I paid nothing. Most people in my clan were speedhacking for awhile. Anybody remember Gentlemen and Jet Boom?
We also could increase the rate of fire on magic missles and fire balls etc to 20x normal, but because something like that can be easily detected we used it in rare occasions, like big fights where theres a lot going on and its hard to notice.
Also we modified our armor/attack values, which is still possible in DFUW. To lessen the chance the of detection we just increased the values by a little bit so it gave us an edge over most players, but alot of people in DF1 knew how to do this, so we were probably just leveling the playing field.
People like you is why cheating never stop.
Corruption and ah well no use even bother try explain why its wrong you guys just dont get it, some just love ruin others lifes this planet is full of people that.
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CPU:Intell Icore7 3770k
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MEMORY:Corsair PLAT.DDR3 1866MHZ 16GB
PSU:Corsair AX1200i
OS:Windows 10 64bit
This is one of the major reasons i don't like pvp in my rpg's.I had to deal with aimbots for MANY years in my fps games but at least in those cases,i could just quit that server and move to another in a matter of a minute.You can't do that in rpg's,cheating is even more relevant in rpg's and you are stuck on the same server and even if could move around,all you need is a few cheats and you have nowhere to run.
It really is too bad that people need to cheat,they ruin the game for everyone.However i can lay some blame to the developer this SHOULD be a number one priority in a pvp game because if players feel cheated they will leave in large bunches.It might be rough but the dev needs to leave all open holes server side only with constant checks,if you can't do it then you should not be making the game.
I quit supporting Call of Duty games because the developer couldn't care less,they relied on the single player aspect to sell the product and let people police themselves.Sorry but online is the main attraction and cheating NEEDS to be removed.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
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I remember dealing with you annoying pricks. Gentlemen, Jet Boom, and tons others.
Made it hard to want to play at times.
It makes me not want to play online multiple player games with anyone that I don't know.
You were NOT leveling the playing field. You were asses. But I am sure you sleep just fine at night knowing that. People like you just don't get it and never will......