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Taking a failed launch to new levels
Viper482
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Not only can I not log in with my character, I cannot even create another character to play on a lesser populated server. Worse launch I have been a part of when the game is running.....you just are not allowed to play it. Would be better knowing no one could play because it was so broken. Selfish but true.
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More like taking a overly underestimated successful launch to new levels.
Days of people expecting only a few hundred thousand players are gone, we have millions of gamers now, and they are marching around on top of smaller titles.
You can thank the success of this game to why your server is now so full you cannot log in.
Worst MMO launch would have to be Anarchy Online..... omg this is nothing compared to that.
Most recent terrible MMO launch would be SWTOR, I was in que for 2 to 3 hours during that early start. Which the Time I was able to get in was about the same time im able to log into FF.
And they should have been able to gauge this through beta interests. There isn't even a freaking queue, server is full try again later lol. What kind of crap is that? I should know better and stop giving these people my money until after they get their crap together.
I sincerely don't care, I paid $50 to play THIS game and I don't appreciate paying money for something and having it be a one sided transaction. At least let me create my toon and get in a queue.
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I think people some times do not realize what they asking for. No matter how good an MMO is there is still going to be a huge spike in the first 10 days or so...at least for major releases. They are never going to see this many people online at once again or not for a very long time. So what you are asking them to do is spend money(probably lots of money) on servers to support something for only a few days. Really where is that money going to come from? Design budget? increased price?
Come on it is not realistic to expect them to waste money to support a spike that will only last a few days. It is realistic to expect them to be able to keep the game up during launch and to have servers capable of supporting the game easily without problems once the login traffic is stable. But expecting them to spend tons of money so you don't have to sit at a login screen for a few days seems like wasted money to me, I would rather see that money go into more game content or hell a bigger customer support team or whatever.
However the fact that people are not auto-logged for inactivity(afk) is not acceptable.
When a big new store has a grand opening in a big city people don't just assume they will be able to go at opening, get a close parking spot, walk in and find everything they want, and then check out without having to wait in a line.
They know they have a choice of either dealing with waiting for parking, stuff not being in stock that they want, waiting in a huge line, being cramped by other people. They make the choice of either dealing with it or waiting till the grand opening weekend is over and everything is calm and normal.
That is the exact same choice that you have with a major MMO release. Either deal with the lines and not getting everything you want the way you want it. Or sit back and chill knowing that in a few days all the craziness will be over.
Not really the same thing at all. For one, you don't pay an entrance fee for a store. In this case, we already paid for these days (now lost) with the initial purchase.
This would be more on par with buying tickets to an amusement park for a certain date and then being told the park is full and come back later in the day.
I go with a good 6 months. Generally get a free trial by then. Most of the major bugs/balance issues have been worked out. People are trading and selling more stuff. Crafters are up to speed. Areas aren't overcrowded. Queues to log in don't exist. You can just hop in and play.
And of course by then you can see if it is worth playing by if everyone that jumped in it jumped back out in the first few months.
Your really defending this? I understand being a fan of a game which I'm one but there comes a time when you have to say enough is enough.
You are right cause I have never paid to go an amusement park and then had to wait in line for a ride because it was full. I forgot they refund you a percent of your ticket for all the time you wait in lines not actually able to ride the rides you want.
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I'm not really a fan of the game. Haven't bought it yet though I will give it a try. I just think you guys are totally unreasonable for any MMO at launch. You are right enough is enough. If their servers were down that is enough. However the fact is you guys want to do something at the exact same time everyone else wants to do the same thing and you expect you should be able to do it without waiting. To me that is not being reasonable.
Is this your first MMO?
First, we PAID for the game. They didnt have any problem taking $30 (or more) from millions of people. They took that money with the understanding that they give a product for that money.
It is not ok to sell a game to millions and then only let a small % actually play the game. Its like a lottery right now.
BUT WAIT!!! In a couple weeks, some people that paid that money will give up on the game and then those that are left standing can get on. Sweet.
But I am with you. Why waste money on getting paying customers into the game. Put that money towards new content.... that maybe some can play.
But if you are happy stratasaurus, good for you.
I agree with you 100% there. Not having a queue is stupid. Not logging people out for being afk is stupid. Those are valid arguments. Having the attitude that I paid for the game so I should never have to wait to play it is what I am saying is unreasonable.
There are lvl 50's already.
I couldnt get on during early access, I couldnt get on yesterday, I cant get on today. But there are some people that are max level already.
I dont know if i agree with the philosophy that it is better to keep the servers running with a small % of people than to risk servers crashing. Not fair that some play non-stop and others cant play at all.
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Absolutely -- this is the critical problem.
If you do what the players want at the launch and bring servers online to meet demand at launch so that everyone can play, all that happens is that you maroon a decent amount of players on what turn out to be low pop servers (even low pop servers are active during a launch period, because everyone on them is playing long hours and at roughly the same time), and they begin to demand server mergers or transfers a month or so into the game. That's what happened in WAR, and it was a big problem.
I do agree that they should kick you from the game if you are afk for more than, say, ten minutes.
it's like that with every MMO launch to date.
New players have a reason to be upset, players who already have MMO experience should know better.
"going into arguments with idiots is a lost cause, it requires you to stoop down to their level and you can't win"
This is why they need to boot people who are afk. Some folks are taking naps and playing around the clock, but they are able to do this effectively because they never log out unless a maintenance boots them.
Experienced MMO players should know better than to throw money at something that they know doesn't work and then complain about it. They should probably just stop throwing good money away and send the right message. It'll never happen though. MMO gamers are too compulsive and competitive to show that sort of restraint.
sort of like your reply? and mine. lol
There were level 50s before the game launched knuckle head, I have two of them...Infact I transferred them all over to Legacy Servers and accessed them all today. Sadly they're all on Jap legacy servers
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