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Is Disney really all that bad?

cybertruckercybertrucker Member UncommonPosts: 1,117

Wow I'm reading all of these posts about character graphics and now terrible they are. Comparing it to Disney.  Even though it would be more accurate to compare it to Disney Pixar. Well it just baffles me. I'm 39 and have a 4 year old daughter. So I've been watching all the films lately with her when I get thru the house. I sit down to watch Brave and I'm amazed at the animation. I read a comment in one thread of someone complaining about not wanting to see a character from tangled running beside them in their game,  and I think Tangled was a great animation.. It just baffles me that so many on this forum think Disney Pixar animation style is so horrible.

Now in writing this I have to say. I was a bit shocked myself when I first saw the character models as I am an old timer EQ fan.. EQ2 fan and Vanguard fan. Normally I prefer realistic looking graphics. Like Age of Conan. However I also go back to look at those games and realize they haven't aged well. Some a bit better than others. But compared to stylized artistic games they just don't hold up as long. And nothing seems to hold up as long as Disney or Disney Pixar..

The characters while a bit shocking to see in Norrath are also nothing short of amazing. We have also only seen a few. Yes I did not care for the Kerran that much. But who knows all the options that will be available to customize these characters.

These characters do indeed compare to Disney Pixar . Anyone who says that they suck need to get their heads checked, because Disney Pixar does absolutely jaw dropping great work

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  • tank017tank017 Member Posts: 2,192

    Yes,it is that bad...

     

    I dont want Tangled,I dont want Brave..

     

    I dont want to enjoy an MMO with a 4 year old.

     

    get our heads checked?  maybe you should....those computerized graphics have been around for a long time now and are nothing to drool at.I actually had more respect for Disney when they actually drew their movies.

     

    Doesnt mean I want my MMO's that way.

  • JustsomenoobJustsomenoob Member UncommonPosts: 878

    I like the art personally.

     

    If other people don't that's fine, however I'm hearing a lot of criticism of completely unrelated game features that I'm really getting the impression are being picked apart because people didn't like the lion king.

     

    The other one is that some completely obvious sandbox features are not sandbox because...they didn't talk about pvp. 

  • TygranirTygranir Member Posts: 741
    Originally posted by tank017

    Yes,it is that bad...

     

    I dont want Tangled,I dont want Brave..

     

    I dont want to enjoy an MMO with a 4 year old.

    So play a different game?

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  • newbinatornewbinator Member Posts: 780
    I'm a 35 year old man and I love cartoons! No, Disney isn't bad. But EQ:Next doesn't remind me of Disney. It doesn't really remind me of anything. Making a stylized MMO that actually uses color doesn't make it a WoW clone or Disney.
  • KiyorisKiyoris Member RarePosts: 2,130

    I love Disney!

    But I don't want Disney gameplay and Disney MMO. I an not a child.

    That Keran doing his spin was the most silly combat I have seen in a long time. Outside of that they showed no combat. So all I can base me on is the graphics....well they were bad when you imagine it will be an Everquest game....lol

  • tank017tank017 Member Posts: 2,192
    Originally posted by Tygranir
    Originally posted by tank017

    Yes,it is that bad...

     

    I dont want Tangled,I dont want Brave..

     

    I dont want to enjoy an MMO with a 4 year old.

    So play a different game?

    choose one for me.

  • SamuraiXIVSamuraiXIV Member Posts: 354
    Originally posted by tank017
    Originally posted by Tygranir
    Originally posted by tank017

    Yes,it is that bad...

     

    I dont want Tangled,I dont want Brave..

     

    I dont want to enjoy an MMO with a 4 year old.

    So play a different game?

    choose one for me.

    Elder Scroll Online for badass looks.

    Or come play the game I'm going for FFXIV ARR if you like FF games :)

    Never liked EQ and will never play EQNext

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  • TygranirTygranir Member Posts: 741
    Originally posted by tank017
    Originally posted by Tygranir
    Originally posted by tank017

    Yes,it is that bad...

     

    I dont want Tangled,I dont want Brave..

     

    I dont want to enjoy an MMO with a 4 year old.

    So play a different game?

    choose one for me.

    Whichever one you enjoy playing, I am playing EQ1 and Vanguard. You are welcome to join, both are free.

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  • GardavsshadeGardavsshade Member UncommonPosts: 907

    Yes, "Disney".... in other words cartoon style a la WoW graphics... is bad as far as I am concerned and feel.

    Others see nothing wrong with it, some even like it.

    I will never play EQNext with it graphics style as we have seen it so far, any more than I would play Wildstar or WoW.

    I really can't understand why some here fail to understand our dislike of this style of character graphics... this issue has been a topic around here for years and should be old hat by now. I won't be playing and I see from other comments here others won't be either...

    But SOE never wanted an old MMORPG Gamer like me to play their new game, no, they wanted the kids to buy it. I already knew that would be the case, so no insult there.

    Moving on to other MMOs...

     

  • munx4555munx4555 Member Posts: 169
    Originally posted by tank017
    Originally posted by Tygranir
    Originally posted by tank017

    Yes,it is that bad...

     

    I dont want Tangled,I dont want Brave..

     

    I dont want to enjoy an MMO with a 4 year old.

    So play a different game?

    choose one for me.

    eq1 or wizardry online, enjoy

  • cybertruckercybertrucker Member UncommonPosts: 1,117
    Originally posted by SamuraiXIV
    Originally posted by tank017
    Originally posted by Tygranir
    Originally posted by tank017

    Yes,it is that bad...

     

    I dont want Tangled,I dont want Brave..

     

    I dont want to enjoy an MMO with a 4 year old.

    So play a different game?

    choose one for me.

    Elder Scroll Online for badass looks.

    Or come play the game I'm going for FFXIV ARR if you like FF games :)

    Never liked EQ and will never play EQNext

    See I think final fantasy looks terrible in all its incarnations

  • tank017tank017 Member Posts: 2,192
    Originally posted by Tygranir
    Originally posted by tank017
    Originally posted by Tygranir
    Originally posted by tank017

    Yes,it is that bad...

     

    I dont want Tangled,I dont want Brave..

     

    I dont want to enjoy an MMO with a 4 year old.

    So play a different game?

    choose one for me.

    Whichever one you enjoy playing, I am playing EQ1 and Vanguard. You are welcome to join, both are free.

    already am,want a new MMO for once..

     

    as opposed to the New Age crowd who have a bajillion choices to choose from.

  • cybertruckercybertrucker Member UncommonPosts: 1,117
    Originally posted by Gardavsshade

    Yes, "Disney".... in other words cartoon style a la WoW graphics... is bad as far as I am concerned and feel.

    Others see nothing wrong with it, some even like it.

    I will never play EQNext with it graphics style as we have seen it so far, any more than I would play Wildstar or WoW.

    I really can't understand why some here fail to understand our dislike of this style of character graphics... this issue has been a topic around here for years and should be old hat by now. I won't be playing and I see from other comments here others won't be either...

    But SOE never wanted an old MMORPG Gamer like me to play their new game, no, they wanted the kids to buy it. I already knew that would be the case, so no insult there.

    Moving on to other MMOs...

     

    Guess you never liked games like badlands 2 either? Same style graphics and hardly made for kids

  • TygranirTygranir Member Posts: 741
    Originally posted by tank017
    Originally posted by Tygranir
    Originally posted by tank017
    Originally posted by Tygranir
    Originally posted by tank017

    Yes,it is that bad...

     

    I dont want Tangled,I dont want Brave..

     

    I dont want to enjoy an MMO with a 4 year old.

    So play a different game?

    choose one for me.

    Whichever one you enjoy playing, I am playing EQ1 and Vanguard. You are welcome to join, both are free.

    already am,want a new MMO for once..

     

    as opposed to the New Age crowd who have a bajillion choices to choose from.

    Ok. Go play one. EQN isn't going to redesign it's entire art and animation table at this point. No need to stomp around the forums spreading discontent.

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  • tank017tank017 Member Posts: 2,192
    Originally posted by munx4555
    Originally posted by tank017
    Originally posted by Tygranir
    Originally posted by tank017

    Yes,it is that bad...

     

    I dont want Tangled,I dont want Brave..

     

    I dont want to enjoy an MMO with a 4 year old.

    So play a different game?

    choose one for me.

    eq1 or wizardry online, enjoy

    lol an MMO release when MMO's were still coming out of the womb.A game that I AM playing,just about since its release in 1999

     

    and a Shitty MMO not worth playing..

     

    those are some nice choices there,can I borrow one of your AAA's and turn it into one I like?

     

     

  • AvengorikAvengorik Member Posts: 15

    Im trying to imagine a EQ : befallen or Unrest zone with EQ next artstyle and...

     

    I dont see EQ next reach the same level of fear/horror/scary immersion then EQ.

     

    In fact im affraid that my very first quest will requires me to go Hug 5 players.

  • Shadowguy64Shadowguy64 Member Posts: 848
    I'm really looking forward to Free Realms...err...EverQuest Next!!!
  • Rikus25Rikus25 Member Posts: 82
    I agree with original poster. I have never been a huge fan of EQ II models. I did like Vanguard a lot however I really am looking forward to this style. I was thrown off guard at first but after seeing the gameplay I really do like what I see. For once a game that I can be excited about.
  • Four0SixFour0Six Member UncommonPosts: 1,175
    Originally posted by DMKano

    Nothing wrong with Disney - it's fine for it's proper use - Disney movies and games.

     

    The problem here is that Everquest has it's own flavor, it's own unique feel - what we've seen in EQN so far has ZERO resemblance to anything Everquest.

    Actually if you show this to EQ fans who have never seen any concept art for EQN - they wouldn't recognize it as an EQ game at all.

    That's the root of the problem - it's not Everquest.

    They have said over and over that they were making a "new" game, that wouldn't take players from the existing 2 EQs. How could you have expected to get a game that screamed "EQ" and have it fit this statement?

  • ElRenmazuoElRenmazuo Member RarePosts: 5,361

    Just because of a certain art style it doesnt mean its for kids.  Most disney movies are for kids because of the kind of content it shows.  I have seen tons of animated movies and comic books with very stylized art that had nudity, blood, gore, cursing and all sorts of mature things even some adults would find offensive and disturbing.

    Hell Kingdom Hearts from Squarenix and Disney is made for adults and teens cuz most kids wouldnt even understand whats going on in the story.

  • ZeroPointNRGZeroPointNRG Member Posts: 70

    I can see how the people expecting lower fantasy/more realism vs. high fantasy would be upset. Generally though, to go that direction, the game would probably have to be more graphically demanding to run well. Most of the games I can think of that are low fantasy and look great are also somewhat more hardware intensive. Low fantasy without the realism and higher end graphics just tends to look really bad.

     

    Strictly from a business perspective, I can see why they went the direction they did with the art/graphics, (you want as many pc's as possible to be able to run the game well if you're looking to sell millions of units). I think the game looks fine with the high fantasy vibe, looking forward to playing it. 

  • DatawarlockDatawarlock Member Posts: 338
    Originally posted by SamuraiXIV
    Originally posted by tank017
    Originally posted by Tygranir
    Originally posted by tank017

    Yes,it is that bad...

     

    I dont want Tangled,I dont want Brave..

     

    I dont want to enjoy an MMO with a 4 year old.

    So play a different game?

    choose one for me.

    Elder Scroll Online for badass looks.

    Or come play the game I'm going for FFXIV ARR if you like FF games :)

    Never liked EQ and will never play EQNext

     

    Hasn't been a real FF game since FF:VII

  • Shadowguy64Shadowguy64 Member Posts: 848
    Originally posted by loopback1199
    Originally posted by SamuraiXIV
    Originally posted by tank017
    Originally posted by Tygranir
    Originally posted by tank017

    Yes,it is that bad...

     

    I dont want Tangled,I dont want Brave..

     

    I dont want to enjoy an MMO with a 4 year old.

    So play a different game?

    choose one for me.

    Elder Scroll Online for badass looks.

    Or come play the game I'm going for FFXIV ARR if you like FF games :)

    Never liked EQ and will never play EQNext

     

    Hasn't been a real FF game since FF:VII

     

    I disagree. FF X was great. (yes, I like cut-scenes)

  • rodingorodingo Member RarePosts: 2,870

    Though stylized characters and art style might not appeal to everyone, the animations that can be done with this type of style will far out shine any realistic looking art style for several reasons:

    1. Lower polycount character models frees up more resources for more key frames in the animation (smoother, yet more extreme animation).

    2. The use of stylized characters helps to avoid the "Uncanny Valley" effect, which again can make animations appear to be more wonky,...(see Rift)

    3. This is a page from Blizzards's playbook on allowing textures and models to be easily upgradeable/scalable with increases in PC technology over the next several years keeping the game accessible to more people (less need to upgrade PC to play).

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  • GardavsshadeGardavsshade Member UncommonPosts: 907
    Originally posted by cybertrucker
    Originally posted by Gardavsshade

    Yes, "Disney".... in other words cartoon style a la WoW graphics... is bad as far as I am concerned and feel.

    Others see nothing wrong with it, some even like it.

    I will never play EQNext with it graphics style as we have seen it so far, any more than I would play Wildstar or WoW.

    I really can't understand why some here fail to understand our dislike of this style of character graphics... this issue has been a topic around here for years and should be old hat by now. I won't be playing and I see from other comments here others won't be either...

    But SOE never wanted an old MMORPG Gamer like me to play their new game, no, they wanted the kids to buy it. I already knew that would be the case, so no insult there.

    Moving on to other MMOs...

     

    Guess you never liked games like badlands 2 either? Same style graphics and hardly made for kids

    What's Badlands 2?

    If it's not a MMORPG then I don't play it. I am not a console gamer, I am not a FPS player. I am a MMO player.

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