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  • gervaise1gervaise1 Member EpicPosts: 6,919
    Originally posted by Phry

     

    I don't think SW;TOR will be closing its doors any time soon,nor do i think it will ever be one of the top 5 games, but i think it does have its own 'niche'

    I think this hits the nail on the head.

    EA said in May that they had doubled their revenue since going F2P and based on other stuff they have said this can be estimated at the equivalent of about 420k to 530k subscribers (see below).

    So enough money coming in to cover the day to day stuff and turn out small expansions but below what they would need to recover their investment and really take the game forward.

     

    530k estimate (see warning below): 

    1. End of April Bioware announced 2M post f2p new accounts.

    2. May results EA announce 2.2M (just under 500k + 1.7M)

    3. So - roughly - SWTOR retained about 200k "old" subscribers.

    4. August EA say that they lost 25% of subscribers in switch to f2p.

    5. ASSUMPTION: that in August subs had fallen back, after Makeb, to the "old" 200k level.

    6. So pre-f2p SWTOR had c. 265k. (75% of 265k is about 200k).

    7. In May EA said that average revenue had doubled since going f2p which would means an average equivalent sub count of 2 x 265k or 530k (up to May.)

    420k estimate:

    8. Even with no new cash shop revenue after May (unlikely) as long SWTOR held on to 200k subs the average equivalent sub revenue up to August will still have been around 420k.

     

    WARNING: First there is the assumption that subs dropped back to the "hard core" level. There will also be rounding down there in EA's numbers - if 1.7M was actually 1.74M then the 200k would become 160k and the 530k would become c. 425k.

    I think this type of number supports Phry's comment and ties in with EA's "doing OK" comment.

  • maxima29maxima29 Member Posts: 203
    Originally posted by superniceguy

    The game is not doing great if this thread is anything to go by, the servers are constantly declining, as they were FULL mostly, then Very Heavy, and now just Heavy and Standard?SWTOR will last as long as the licence holds, but now that the long awaited SSSP is finally coming for Dec-Feb, there is nothing yet to come - What comes next Bioware?All known content that has been in the works for the past 2 years or more, will all be in game by Dec. SWTOR should last through most of 2014, 2015 if lucky, but they will get more money focussing on creating console and PC games on a yearly basis. I will buy more Star Wars games by EA, but not willing to pay more money into SWTOR. It was fun while it lasted for the few months solid play, but is not a long term game like SWG and other MMOs. 

     

    Ah yes another prediction from you about a closing date. Look at your history buddy. You predicted swtor wouldn't make it out of '12 you predicted it would shut down in '13 you predicted sssp would never be released, you predicted they will never release a new race, you predicted never have a level increase, you predicted never have an expansion, you predicted ALL quests would be from terminals and they would never continue the story EVERYTHING YOU HAVE PREDICTED HAS BEEN WRONG!! now you predict it will close in '14. Keep dreaming buddy I understand the desperation is at an all time high for you and the haters, understand you see your efforts the last 2 years have failed and you see you have another few years of wasting away cause of swtor. I hope you hold your copy of swg tight at night cause there won't be a swg2 and swtor will be around for awhile longer.
  • hikaru77hikaru77 Member UncommonPosts: 1,123
    Originally posted by superniceguy

    The game is not doing great if this thread is anything to go by, the servers are constantly declining, as they were FULL mostly, then Very Heavy, and now just Heavy and Standard?

    SWTOR will last as long as the licence holds, but now that the long awaited SSSP is finally coming for Dec-Feb, there is nothing yet to come - What comes next Bioware?

    All known content that has been in the works for the past 2 years or more, will all be in game by Dec. SWTOR should last through most of 2014, 2015 if lucky, but they will get more money focussing on creating console and PC games on a yearly basis. I will buy more Star Wars games by EA, but not willing to pay more money into SWTOR. It was fun while it lasted for the few months solid play, but is not a long term game like SWG and other MMOs.

     

    You have been waiting the fail of swtor for almost  2 years, it didnt happen and it wont happen. Is ok if you dont like the game but there is a lot of SW fans who love it and enjoy it everyday. Whats comes next? dont worry about that, you dont even play the game.   

  • maxima29maxima29 Member Posts: 203
    Originally posted by hikaru77

    Originally posted by superniceguy
    The game is not doing great if this thread is anything to go by, the servers are constantly declining, as they were FULL mostly, then Very Heavy, and now just Heavy and Standard? SWTOR will last as long as the licence holds, but now that the long awaited SSSP is finally coming for Dec-Feb, there is nothing yet to come - What comes next Bioware? All known content that has been in the works for the past 2 years or more, will all be in game by Dec. SWTOR should last through most of 2014, 2015 if lucky, but they will get more money focussing on creating console and PC games on a yearly basis. I will buy more Star Wars games by EA, but not willing to pay more money into SWTOR. It was fun while it lasted for the few months solid play, but is not a long term game like SWG and other MMOs.  

    You have been waiting the fail of swtor for almost  2 years, it didnt happen and it wont happen. Is ok if you dont like the game but there is a lot of SW fans who love it and enjoy it everyday. Whats comes next? dont worry about that, you dont even play the game.   

     

    This guy has been called out more then any poster in the history of this site and they do nothing. He has predicted the closeing of swtor for 2012,2013, now 2014 even expanding a little bit to 2015, every prediction from closing dates to them never releasing a new race has been wrong. Everything he says is a lie, misinformation and copy/paste from his exact post from two years ago. Its very amusing watching the desperation of these haters of a video game they don't play. They keep a copy of swg in a gold plated case under their pillow hoping dreaming about it coming back. ..something that will never happen.
  • DocBrodyDocBrody Member UncommonPosts: 1,926
    Originally posted by maxima29
    Originally posted by hikaru77
    Originally posted by superniceguy

    The game is not doing great if this thread is anything to go by, the servers are constantly declining, as they were FULL mostly, then Very Heavy, and now just Heavy and Standard?

    SWTOR will last as long as the licence holds, but now that the long awaited SSSP is finally coming for Dec-Feb, there is nothing yet to come - What comes next Bioware?

    All known content that has been in the works for the past 2 years or more, will all be in game by Dec. SWTOR should last through most of 2014, 2015 if lucky, but they will get more money focussing on creating console and PC games on a yearly basis. I will buy more Star Wars games by EA, but not willing to pay more money into SWTOR. It was fun while it lasted for the few months solid play, but is not a long term game like SWG and other MMOs.

     

    You have been waiting the fail of swtor for almost  2 years, it didnt happen and it wont happen. Is ok if you dont like the game but there is a lot of SW fans who love it and enjoy it everyday. Whats comes next? dont worry about that, you dont even play the game.   

     

    This guy has been called out more then any poster in the history of this site and they do nothing. He has predicted the closeing of swtor for 2012,2013, now 2014 even expanding a little bit to 2015, every prediction from closing dates to them never releasing a new race has been wrong. Everything he says is a lie, misinformation and copy/paste from his exact post from two years ago. Its very amusing watching the desperation of these haters of a video game they don't play. They keep a copy of swg in a gold plated case under their pillow hoping dreaming about it coming back. ..something that will never happen.

    what are you talking about? The "fail" already happened, they are far from 2.3 million players, that is how many boxes they sold.

    Does it really matter when and if it shuts down? It's lightyears below expectations, for me personally that is all I need to know. Bring back SWG and make a sequel.

  • superniceguysuperniceguy Member UncommonPosts: 2,278
    Originally posted by maxima29
    They keep a copy of swg in a gold plated case under their pillow hoping dreaming about it coming back. ..something that will never happen.

    SWG is already back. When SWTOR eventually shuts down that will not be playable at all, and nobody will have the desire for a come back, and SWTOR will be a faded memory, yet SWG will be remembered and talked about long after SWTOR.

  • maxima29maxima29 Member Posts: 203
    Originally posted by DocBrody

    Originally posted by maxima29
    Originally posted by hikaru77
    Originally posted by superniceguy
    The game is not doing great if this thread is anything to go by, the servers are constantly declining, as they were FULL mostly, then Very Heavy, and now just Heavy and Standard? SWTOR will last as long as the licence holds, but now that the long awaited SSSP is finally coming for Dec-Feb, there is nothing yet to come - What comes next Bioware? All known content that has been in the works for the past 2 years or more, will all be in game by Dec. SWTOR should last through most of 2014, 2015 if lucky, but they will get more money focussing on creating console and PC games on a yearly basis. I will buy more Star Wars games by EA, but not willing to pay more money into SWTOR. It was fun while it lasted for the few months solid play, but is not a long term game like SWG and other MMOs.  

    You have been waiting the fail of swtor for almost  2 years, it didnt happen and it wont happen. Is ok if you dont like the game but there is a lot of SW fans who love it and enjoy it everyday. Whats comes next? dont worry about that, you dont even play the game.   

     

    This guy has been called out more then any poster in the history of this site and they do nothing. He has predicted the closeing of swtor for 2012,2013, now 2014 even expanding a little bit to 2015, every prediction from closing dates to them never releasing a new race has been wrong. Everything he says is a lie, misinformation and copy/paste from his exact post from two years ago. Its very amusing watching the desperation of these haters of a video game they don't play. They keep a copy of swg in a gold plated case under their pillow hoping dreaming about it coming back. ..something that will never happen.

    what are you talking about? The "fail" already happened, they are far from 2.3 million players, that is how many boxes they sold.

    Does it really matter when and if it shuts down? It's lightyears below expectations, for me personally that is all I need to know. Bring back SWG and make a sequel.

     

    1.7 million new accounts when they went f2p. 1.7 million compared to 2.3 million actually is not the near death experience haters proclaim it is. Hold tight to your swg copy you have tucked under your pillow. It will be there for a long time cause swg2 won't be coming anytime soon.
  • maxima29maxima29 Member Posts: 203
    Originally posted by superniceguy

    Originally posted by maxima29
    They keep a copy of swg in a gold plated case under their pillow hoping dreaming about it coming back. ..something that will never happen.

    SWG is already back. When SWTOR eventually shuts down that will not be playable at all, and nobody will have the desire for a come back, and SWTOR will be a faded memory, yet SWG will be remembered and talked about long after SWTOR.

     

    Ah yes when swtor shuts down. Hey wait you said that would be '12 wait then you said '13 oh and then you said '14 oh wait you wanted to give yourself a little wiggle room so we are up to '15. Man its not hard to see your desperation as your hopes and dreams of swg are fading further and further into the mmo galaxy known as game closed move on. Make sure you give your copy of swg a big kiss goodnight tonight.
  • BcudaBcuda Member UncommonPosts: 163
    I think its a lost game. It wont be able to recover. I even bought the expansion . And the f2p game ruined it. I know thats how a game that is struggling to get more players. But it lands up killing the players who paid and cant stand the cash store.I'm not a hater. I wanted this game to be a sucsess. But it  didn't happen. I REALLY hate the f2p . But you nickle and dime me for storage space and items that are easy to make. Why cant you sell me a game. Make it free to play. No cash house. And in 4 or 6 months ask me if I want to continue playing .Then Charge me . Per Character. If I want 3 or 4 Characters I buy those Characters. BUT NO CASH HOUSE!!!! No restrictions. And Ill pay for an expansion.
  • hikaru77hikaru77 Member UncommonPosts: 1,123
    Originally posted by superniceguy
    Originally posted by maxima29
    They keep a copy of swg in a gold plated case under their pillow hoping dreaming about it coming back. ..something that will never happen.

    SWG is already back. When SWTOR eventually shuts down that will not be playable at all, and nobody will have the desire for a come back, and SWTOR will be a faded memory, yet SWG will be remembered and talked about long after SWTOR.

    I do remember all the complaints about SWG when it was running an alive, the game was good enought  to be a wasteland full of empty cities and planets on everysingle server but a cantina on tatooine. Then the news of the shut down and SWG turned into  the best MMO of all times. 

  • TygranirTygranir Member Posts: 741
    Originally posted by superniceguy
    Originally posted by maxima29
    They keep a copy of swg in a gold plated case under their pillow hoping dreaming about it coming back. ..something that will never happen.

    SWG is already back. When SWTOR eventually shuts down that will not be playable at all, and nobody will have the desire for a come back, and SWTOR will be a faded memory, yet SWG will be remembered and talked about long after SWTOR.

    Have to logged into SWTOR at all? The servers are rather populated with a very sustainable playerbase.

     

    You are flat out incorrect and have no basis at all for your statements.

     

    You seem to be trapped in some form of forced delusion. You may want to try a little research.

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  • maxima29maxima29 Member Posts: 203
    Originally posted by Bcuda

    I think its a lost game. It wont be able to recover. I even bought the expansion . And the f2p game ruined it. I know thats how a game that is struggling to get more players. But it lands up killing the players who paid and cant stand the cash store.I'm not a hater. I wanted this game to be a sucsess. But it  didn't happen. I REALLY hate the f2p . But you nickle and dime me for storage space and items that are easy to make. Why cant you sell me a game. Make it free to play. No cash house. And in 4 or 6 months ask me if I want to continue playing .Then Charge me . Per Character. If I want 3 or 4 Characters I buy those Characters. BUT NO CASH HOUSE!!!! No restrictions. And Ill pay for an expansion.

     

    So you think the game will fail because its not free enough for you hmm? Ah yes your right your entitled for everything for free. That whopping $15/month is crazy I mean if you play 3hrs/week that equals to be less then $1/hr for entertainment. I'll never understand the I'm entitled mentality people have.
  • superniceguysuperniceguy Member UncommonPosts: 2,278
    Originally posted by maxima29
    Originally posted by superniceguy
    Originally posted by maxima29
    They keep a copy of swg in a gold plated case under their pillow hoping dreaming about it coming back. ..something that will never happen.

    SWG is already back. When SWTOR eventually shuts down that will not be playable at all, and nobody will have the desire for a come back, and SWTOR will be a faded memory, yet SWG will be remembered and talked about long after SWTOR.

     

    Ah yes when swtor shuts down. Hey wait you said that would be '12 wait then you said '13 oh and then you said '14 oh wait you wanted to give yourself a little wiggle room so we are up to '15. Man its not hard to see your desperation as your hopes and dreams of swg are fading further and further into the mmo galaxy known as game closed move on. Make sure you give your copy of swg a big kiss goodnight tonight.

    I never said such things, it is your interpretation of what I am saying. Find the posts that I SPECIFICALLY say it will shut down 12 -13 etc

  • ignore_meignore_me Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 1,987
    Originally posted by maxima29
    Originally posted by Bcuda
    I think its a lost game. It wont be able to recover. I even bought the expansion . And the f2p game ruined it. I know thats how a game that is struggling to get more players. But it lands up killing the players who paid and cant stand the cash store.I'm not a hater. I wanted this game to be a sucsess. But it  didn't happen. I REALLY hate the f2p . But you nickle and dime me for storage space and items that are easy to make. Why cant you sell me a game. Make it free to play. No cash house. And in 4 or 6 months ask me if I want to continue playing .Then Charge me . Per Character. If I want 3 or 4 Characters I buy those Characters. BUT NO CASH HOUSE!!!! No restrictions. And Ill pay for an expansion.

     

    So you think the game will fail because its not free enough for you hmm? Ah yes your right your entitled for everything for free. That whopping $15/month is crazy I mean if you play 3hrs/week that equals to be less then $1/hr for entertainment. I'll never understand the I'm entitled mentality people have.

    I don't know why you keep posting about this game when it's clear that you are a hater and don't even play. Most grown adults would not spend two years of their life writing untrue stuff about a game they don't even play. You think you are entitled but it is clear that you don't even play the game and you are not a grown adult.

    Survivor of the great MMORPG Famine of 2011

  • maxima29maxima29 Member Posts: 203
    Originally posted by superniceguy

    Originally posted by maxima29
    Originally posted by superniceguy
    Originally posted by maxima29
    They keep a copy of swg in a gold plated case under their pillow hoping dreaming about it coming back. ..something that will never happen.

    SWG is already back. When SWTOR eventually shuts down that will not be playable at all, and nobody will have the desire for a come back, and SWTOR will be a faded memory, yet SWG will be remembered and talked about long after SWTOR.

     

    Ah yes when swtor shuts down. Hey wait you said that would be '12 wait then you said '13 oh and then you said '14 oh wait you wanted to give yourself a little wiggle room so we are up to '15. Man its not hard to see your desperation as your hopes and dreams of swg are fading further and further into the mmo galaxy known as game closed move on. Make sure you give your copy of swg a big kiss goodnight tonight.

    I never said such things, it is your interpretation of what I am saying. Find the posts that I SPECIFICALLY say it will shut down 12 -13 etc

     

    Oh its there buddy we have all seen it. But if someone else wants to look through 2 years and 2000+ post (majority are copy/paste of each other) of a grown man crying about a video game he doesn't play they will find it. Oh your desperation is at an all time high its entertaining watching you guys squirm.
  • ignore_meignore_me Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 1,987
    Originally posted by maxima29
    Originally posted by superniceguy
    Originally posted by maxima29
    Originally posted by superniceguy
    Originally posted by maxima29
    They keep a copy of swg in a gold plated case under their pillow hoping dreaming about it coming back. ..something that will never happen.

    SWG is already back. When SWTOR eventually shuts down that will not be playable at all, and nobody will have the desire for a come back, and SWTOR will be a faded memory, yet SWG will be remembered and talked about long after SWTOR.

     

    Ah yes when swtor shuts down. Hey wait you said that would be '12 wait then you said '13 oh and then you said '14 oh wait you wanted to give yourself a little wiggle room so we are up to '15. Man its not hard to see your desperation as your hopes and dreams of swg are fading further and further into the mmo galaxy known as game closed move on. Make sure you give your copy of swg a big kiss goodnight tonight.

    I never said such things, it is your interpretation of what I am saying. Find the posts that I SPECIFICALLY say it will shut down 12 -13 etc

     

    Oh its there buddy we have all seen it. But if someone else wants to look through 2 years and 2000+ post (majority are copy/paste of each other) of a grown man crying about a video game he doesn't play they will find it. Oh your desperation is at an all time high its entertaining watching you guys squirm.

    I read through your posts and it's clear that you don't even play and you are not a grown adult maxima29.

    Survivor of the great MMORPG Famine of 2011

  • maxima29maxima29 Member Posts: 203
    Originally posted by ignore_me

    Originally posted by maxima29
    Originally posted by Bcuda
    I think its a lost game. It wont be able to recover. I even bought the expansion . And the f2p game ruined it. I know thats how a game that is struggling to get more players. But it lands up killing the players who paid and cant stand the cash store.I'm not a hater. I wanted this game to be a sucsess. But it  didn't happen. I REALLY hate the f2p . But you nickle and dime me for storage space and items that are easy to make. Why cant you sell me a game. Make it free to play. No cash house. And in 4 or 6 months ask me if I want to continue playing .Then Charge me . Per Character. If I want 3 or 4 Characters I buy those Characters. BUT NO CASH HOUSE!!!! No restrictions. And Ill pay for an expansion.

     

    So you think the game will fail because its not free enough for you hmm? Ah yes your right your entitled for everything for free. That whopping $15/month is crazy I mean if you play 3hrs/week that equals to be less then $1/hr for entertainment. I'll never understand the I'm entitled mentality people have.

    I don't know why you keep posting about this game when it's clear that you are a hater and don't even play. Most grown adults would not spend two years of their life writing untrue stuff about a game they don't even play. You think you are entitled but it is clear that you don't even play the game and you are not a grown adult.

     

    You forgot about how you keep a copy of swg under your pillow at night.
  • maxima29maxima29 Member Posts: 203
    Originally posted by ignore_me

    Originally posted by maxima29
    Originally posted by superniceguy
    Originally posted by maxima29
    Originally posted by superniceguy
    Originally posted by maxima29
    They keep a copy of swg in a gold plated case under their pillow hoping dreaming about it coming back. ..something that will never happen.

    SWG is already back. When SWTOR eventually shuts down that will not be playable at all, and nobody will have the desire for a come back, and SWTOR will be a faded memory, yet SWG will be remembered and talked about long after SWTOR.

     

    Ah yes when swtor shuts down. Hey wait you said that would be '12 wait then you said '13 oh and then you said '14 oh wait you wanted to give yourself a little wiggle room so we are up to '15. Man its not hard to see your desperation as your hopes and dreams of swg are fading further and further into the mmo galaxy known as game closed move on. Make sure you give your copy of swg a big kiss goodnight tonight.

    I never said such things, it is your interpretation of what I am saying. Find the posts that I SPECIFICALLY say it will shut down 12 -13 etc

     

    Oh its there buddy we have all seen it. But if someone else wants to look through 2 years and 2000+ post (majority are copy/paste of each other) of a grown man crying about a video game he doesn't play they will find it. Oh your desperation is at an all time high its entertaining watching you guys squirm.

    I read through your posts and it's clear that you don't even play and you are not a grown adult maxima29.

     

    Oh poor ignore your desperation is so cute.
  • superniceguysuperniceguy Member UncommonPosts: 2,278
    Originally posted by Tygranir
    Originally posted by superniceguy
    Originally posted by maxima29
    They keep a copy of swg in a gold plated case under their pillow hoping dreaming about it coming back. ..something that will never happen.

    SWG is already back. When SWTOR eventually shuts down that will not be playable at all, and nobody will have the desire for a come back, and SWTOR will be a faded memory, yet SWG will be remembered and talked about long after SWTOR.

    Have to logged into SWTOR at all? The servers are rather populated with a very sustainable playerbase.

     

    You are flat out incorrect and have no basis at all for your statements.

     

    You seem to be trapped in some form of forced delusion. You may want to try a little research.

    I have done the research

    Here shows servers at mostly FULL, yet this thread says that servers are Heavy and Standard, showing a decline.

    As far as I know FULL > Very Heavy > Heavy > Standard

    But I must be incorrect and deluded and Heavy and Standard means servers are more populated than those saying FULL and Very Heavy image

  • ignore_meignore_me Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 1,987
    Originally posted by maxima29
    Originally posted by ignore_me
    Originally posted by maxima29
    Originally posted by Bcuda
    I think its a lost game. It wont be able to recover. I even bought the expansion . And the f2p game ruined it. I know thats how a game that is struggling to get more players. But it lands up killing the players who paid and cant stand the cash store.I'm not a hater. I wanted this game to be a sucsess. But it  didn't happen. I REALLY hate the f2p . But you nickle and dime me for storage space and items that are easy to make. Why cant you sell me a game. Make it free to play. No cash house. And in 4 or 6 months ask me if I want to continue playing .Then Charge me . Per Character. If I want 3 or 4 Characters I buy those Characters. BUT NO CASH HOUSE!!!! No restrictions. And Ill pay for an expansion.

     

    So you think the game will fail because its not free enough for you hmm? Ah yes your right your entitled for everything for free. That whopping $15/month is crazy I mean if you play 3hrs/week that equals to be less then $1/hr for entertainment. I'll never understand the I'm entitled mentality people have.

    I don't know why you keep posting about this game when it's clear that you are a hater and don't even play. Most grown adults would not spend two years of their life writing untrue stuff about a game they don't even play. You think you are entitled but it is clear that you don't even play the game and you are not a grown adult.

     

    You forgot about how you keep a copy of swg under your pillow at night.

    Yes. And you don't even play and you are not a grown adult with your posting on this site. I don't know why you want SWTOR to fail but it is pathetic.

    Survivor of the great MMORPG Famine of 2011

  • maxima29maxima29 Member Posts: 203
    Originally posted by superniceguy

    Originally posted by Tygranir
    Originally posted by superniceguy
    Originally posted by maxima29
    They keep a copy of swg in a gold plated case under their pillow hoping dreaming about it coming back. ..something that will never happen.

    SWG is already back. When SWTOR eventually shuts down that will not be playable at all, and nobody will have the desire for a come back, and SWTOR will be a faded memory, yet SWG will be remembered and talked about long after SWTOR.

    Have to logged into SWTOR at all? The servers are rather populated with a very sustainable playerbase.

     

    You are flat out incorrect and have no basis at all for your statements.

     

    You seem to be trapped in some form of forced delusion. You may want to try a little research.

    I have done the research

    Here shows servers at mostly FULL, yet this thread says that servers are Heavy and Standard, showing a decline.

    As far as I know FULL > Very Heavy > Heavy > Standard

    But I must be incorrect and deluded and Heavy and Standard means servers are more populated than those saying FULL and Very Heavy image

     

    How Are SWG servers doing. Please show us that link.
  • maxima29maxima29 Member Posts: 203
    Originally posted by ignore_me

    Originally posted by maxima29
    Originally posted by ignore_me
    Originally posted by maxima29
    Originally posted by Bcuda
    I think its a lost game. It wont be able to recover. I even bought the expansion . And the f2p game ruined it. I know thats how a game that is struggling to get more players. But it lands up killing the players who paid and cant stand the cash store.I'm not a hater. I wanted this game to be a sucsess. But it  didn't happen. I REALLY hate the f2p . But you nickle and dime me for storage space and items that are easy to make. Why cant you sell me a game. Make it free to play. No cash house. And in 4 or 6 months ask me if I want to continue playing .Then Charge me . Per Character. If I want 3 or 4 Characters I buy those Characters. BUT NO CASH HOUSE!!!! No restrictions. And Ill pay for an expansion.

     

    So you think the game will fail because its not free enough for you hmm? Ah yes your right your entitled for everything for free. That whopping $15/month is crazy I mean if you play 3hrs/week that equals to be less then $1/hr for entertainment. I'll never understand the I'm entitled mentality people have.

    I don't know why you keep posting about this game when it's clear that you are a hater and don't even play. Most grown adults would not spend two years of their life writing untrue stuff about a game they don't even play. You think you are entitled but it is clear that you don't even play the game and you are not a grown adult.

     

    You forgot about how you keep a copy of swg under your pillow at night.

    Yes. And you don't even play and you are not a grown adult with your posting on this site. I don't know why you want SWTOR to fail but it is pathetic.

     

    Oh someone is a little upset. Desperation can do that.
  • superniceguysuperniceguy Member UncommonPosts: 2,278
    Originally posted by maxima29
    Originally posted by superniceguy
    Originally posted by Tygranir
    Originally posted by superniceguy
    Originally posted by maxima29
    They keep a copy of swg in a gold plated case under their pillow hoping dreaming about it coming back. ..something that will never happen.

    SWG is already back. When SWTOR eventually shuts down that will not be playable at all, and nobody will have the desire for a come back, and SWTOR will be a faded memory, yet SWG will be remembered and talked about long after SWTOR.

    Have to logged into SWTOR at all? The servers are rather populated with a very sustainable playerbase.

     

    You are flat out incorrect and have no basis at all for your statements.

     

    You seem to be trapped in some form of forced delusion. You may want to try a little research.

    I have done the research

    Here shows servers at mostly FULL, yet this thread says that servers are Heavy and Standard, showing a decline.

    As far as I know FULL > Very Heavy > Heavy > Standard

    But I must be incorrect and deluded and Heavy and Standard means servers are more populated than those saying FULL and Very Heavy image

     

    How Are SWG servers doing. Please show us that link.

    They did well for 8.5 years, and the first merge / shut down of servers happened in 2009, that is 6 years after launch, and 3-4 years after NGE. SWTORs merges and shut downs happened within 6-9 months from launch.

    SWGs servers are doing better so far,  SWTOR servers have to stay active until about mid 2020, to match the up time of SWG servers.

  • maxima29maxima29 Member Posts: 203
    Originally posted by superniceguy

    Originally posted by maxima29
    Originally posted by superniceguy
    Originally posted by Tygranir
    Originally posted by superniceguy
    Originally posted by maxima29
    They keep a copy of swg in a gold plated case under their pillow hoping dreaming about it coming back. ..something that will never happen.

    SWG is already back. When SWTOR eventually shuts down that will not be playable at all, and nobody will have the desire for a come back, and SWTOR will be a faded memory, yet SWG will be remembered and talked about long after SWTOR.

    Have to logged into SWTOR at all? The servers are rather populated with a very sustainable playerbase.

     

    You are flat out incorrect and have no basis at all for your statements.

     

    You seem to be trapped in some form of forced delusion. You may want to try a little research.

    I have done the research

    Here shows servers at mostly FULL, yet this thread says that servers are Heavy and Standard, showing a decline.

    As far as I know FULL > Very Heavy > Heavy > Standard

    But I must be incorrect and deluded and Heavy and Standard means servers are more populated than those saying FULL and Very Heavy image

     

    How Are SWG servers doing. Please show us that link.

    They did well for 8.5 years, and the first merge / shut down of servers happened in 2009, that is 6 years after launch, and 3-4 years after NGE. SWTORs merges and shut downs happened within 6-9 months from launch.

    SWGs servers are doing better so far,  SWTOR servers have to stay active until about mid 2020, to match the up time of SWG servers.

     

    Sorry you didn't answer the question. How are swg servers doing NOW? TODAY? Nobody cares how you think they did in '06.
  • Neo_ViperNeo_Viper Member Posts: 598
    Originally posted by superniceguy

    They did well for 8.5 years, and the first merge / shut down of servers happened in 2009, that is 6 years after launch, and 3-4 years after NGE. SWTORs merges and shut downs happened within 6-9 months from launch.

    SWGs servers are doing better so far,  SWTOR servers have to stay active until about mid 2020, to match the up time of SWG servers.

    Right now, there are NO official SWG servers running, because the whole game was shut down.

    And even at its peak in 2003/2004, SWG never passed the 300.000 subscribers. SW:TOR has 500.000 paying subscribers right now, and I do not mean the million+ free to play cash shop players, I mean real subscribers who pay a monthly fee.

    So no, SWG never did better than SW:TOR. Sorry to burst your bubble.

    My computer is better than yours.

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