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[Review] Scarlet Blade: A Shameful & Degrading Experience

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  • BladestromBladestrom Member UncommonPosts: 5,001
    Originally posted by NeoSquall

    Originally posted by Bladestrom
    There a difference between nude adults and nude children. Put it this way in RL if consenting adults wan to have fun and dress up/be naked etc that's fine, but they would certainly ensure children at not involved. Children play this game.

    Originally posted by Bladestrom
    Parents are to blame, also society. Bottom line, children play this game and if an adult is attracted to this game because of the sexual content then they are also to blame for supporting crap games and also quite frankly dabbling in a sexy game where children play is perverse.

    Originally posted by Bladestrom
    Exactly. Rape is not ok because there are a lot of murders. Children play this game, and the game is marketed with blatantly sexual overtones. Just like in RL, ignorance is no excuse.

    Again with this "children play the game" nonsense.

    The game is marketed to a mature audience, it's made for a mature audience and the publisher does what it can to ensure it's played by mature people, save having the CIA monitoring the webcams of those entering the site.

    Most of all it's not a "sex game", learn your game genres.

     

    The fact you insist in throwing the "children are playing the game"/"sexy game"/"people playing this game are perverse" tantrum shows that you basically don't know jack sh*t about the game and you're judging it based only on your overly moral prejudice. Shame on you.

     As I said children play this game, so when someone enjoys their bit of sexual titaliation in game they should be aware of that it could be with children.  That's not moral predjudice, thats about being aware of your surroundings and what is appropriate.

    Personally if you could guarantee no children could play the game I would say there is no issue here with this game.  

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  • gekidogekido Member UncommonPosts: 66

    This review needs to be taken down or at least given a title for what it really is.

    "A completely biased review of a game I don't like because of boobs!"

    Shameful and degrading?  Welcome to the internet... or the world for that matter.

  • NeoSquallNeoSquall Member UncommonPosts: 11

    Originally posted by Antiquated

    Originally posted by NeoSquall

    The game is marketed to a mature audience, it's made for a mature audience and the publisher does what it can to ensure it's played by mature people

    Swear you're 18, little jimmy? (y/n)

    No, we're super cereal, really 18? (y/n)

    Originally posted by Bladestrom

    Originally posted by NeoSquall

    Originally posted by Bladestrom
    There a difference between nude adults and nude children. Put it this way in RL if consenting adults wan to have fun and dress up/be naked etc that's fine, but they would certainly ensure children at not involved. Children play this game.

    Originally posted by Bladestrom
    Parents are to blame, also society. Bottom line, children play this game and if an adult is attracted to this game because of the sexual content then they are also to blame for supporting crap games and also quite frankly dabbling in a sexy game where children play is perverse.

    Originally posted by Bladestrom
    Exactly. Rape is not ok because there are a lot of murders. Children play this game, and the game is marketed with blatantly sexual overtones. Just like in RL, ignorance is no excuse.

    Again with this "children play the game" nonsense.

    The game is marketed to a mature audience, it's made for a mature audience and the publisher does what it can to ensure it's played by mature people, save having the CIA monitoring the webcams of those entering the site.

    Most of all it's not a "sex game", learn your game genres.

     

    The fact you insist in throwing the "children are playing the game"/"sexy game"/"people playing this game are perverse" tantrum shows that you basically don't know jack sh*t about the game and you're judging it based only on your overly moral prejudice. Shame on you.

     As I said children play this game, so when someone enjoys their bit of sexual titaliation in game they should be aware of that it could be with children.  That's not moral predjudice, thats about being aware of your surroundings and what is appropriate.

    Personally if you could guarantee no children could play the game I would say there is no issue here with this game.  

    As much as is known that Americans like to control anyone and anything, no matter the legal barriers they may breach, even Aeria Games (a California company) can't go beyond age gates and ESRB ratings to discourage kids from playing games for mature people, neither the law requires them to do anything more.

    It is also a widely known fact that modern parents (not just the American ones) prefer to park their children in front of the TV, console or PC and don't care what they do, expecting them to always be on the right side.

    If you want to be sure your kids play the right games, YOU must control them, not the games publisher nor the game developers.

    If children play Scarlet Blade is not our fault, nor Aeria Games', nor LivePlex's, not even their own, it's their parents' fault ONLY.

    There's nothing wrong in people of legal age playing Scarlet Blade, although there's much better in the market, and everything you're saying about it is really just (false) moral mongering.

     

    For the last time, nobody can guarantee children don't play a game, unless you have the CIA actively checking who's playing it, anyway nobody can be sure who's playing what.

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  • BladestromBladestrom Member UncommonPosts: 5,001
    You miss the point, there is ofc no way to prevent all kids to play the game - so kids are currently playing the game.

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  • BladestromBladestrom Member UncommonPosts: 5,001
    It's not your fault kids play the game - so what, the fact is kids are there.

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  • DihoruDihoru Member Posts: 2,731
    Originally posted by Bladestrom
    It's not your fault kids play the game - so what, the fact is kids are there.

    So if you were a parent you'd let your child play games which you know for a fact would alter his/her perception of the world without your oversight to make sure he/she understands the game better than their immature mind could do so on its own? If yes then it's not on us, the gaming community, to make sure the progeny of lazy, hands off, "let the PC/console babysit them" parents comes up right. I've said it once and I will say it until all the bleeding hearts will comprehend it: The problem is not the game nor the community, it is the parent who doesn't take an interest in their child's wellbeing.

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  • BladestromBladestrom Member UncommonPosts: 5,001
    jeezus it's like talking to kids. Let's make it clear as possible. I do not allow my kids to play these games, however this is not about me. The point is simple, some kids get their hands on these games. So again for the mullionth time, as with every other single mmorg out there - KIDS PLAY THIS GAME. It not the fault of the adults that play this game that kids are there, but reality is reality, so If I was an adult who wanted to play this game, I wouldn't be able to because the presence of children makes it inappropriate.

    rpg/mmorg history: Dun Darach>Bloodwych>Bards Tale 1-3>Eye of the beholder > Might and Magic 2,3,5 > FFVII> Baldur's Gate 1, 2 > Planescape Torment >Morrowind > WOW > oblivion > LOTR > Guild Wars (1900hrs elementalist) Vanguard. > GW2(1000 elementalist), Wildstar

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  • NeoSquallNeoSquall Member UncommonPosts: 11
    Originally posted by Bladestrom
    It's not your fault kids play the game - so what, the fact is kids are there.

    You have no information of children playing the game, nor do you have any data or proof of that, so it's not a FACT, just mere and stupid SPECULATION based on moral prejudice and subjective experience.

    You have no facts.

    You have no proof.

    Yours is not "the truth".

    It isn't "it's either this or that", it's "NEITHER until you can prove it".

    Deal with it.

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  • OzmodanOzmodan Member EpicPosts: 9,726
    Originally posted by NeoSquall
    Originally posted by Bladestrom
    It's not your fault kids play the game - so what, the fact is kids are there.

    You have no information of children playing the game, nor do you have any data or proof of that, so it's not a FACT, just mere and stupid SPECULATION based on moral prejudice and subjective experience.

    You have no facts.

    You have no proof.

    Yours is not "the truth".

    It isn't "it's either this or that", it's "NEITHER until you can prove it".

    Deal with it.

    Denying the obvious is silly.  

  • MnemnosyneMnemnosyne Member UncommonPosts: 8

    The author is calling the Royal Knights 'good', when the lore makes it clear the distinction between the two factions is that the Royal Knights want to keep the Arkana enslaved as tools, while the Free Knights want to give them freedom to behave as the free sentient individuals that they are; unless he thinks that enslaving these people is 'good' it just shows a lack of attention, which is unsurprising given the writer's clear dismissal of the game.  Not that there's any difference in-game, since they literally just used the same quest text, zones, and even names, with the only difference appearing to be a find + replace on the faction name.

    As far as shameful and degrading, I find this this review to be far more so than the game.  The idea that anything that acknowledges or gods forbid, focuses on sex and makes it both a selling point and a point of humor is somehow 'shameful' or 'degrading' is a disgustingly common attitude in society.  The game's translation team have done an actually surprisingly good job.  This is one of the few korean MMO's that has been well translated or at least well adapted; I have no idea how similar the english text is to the original, but we don't see any of the weird grammar or wording problems we see in a lot of games.  The sexy content is front and center, and the game has fun with it; the game pokes fun at itself and has a very good sense of humor; in my short time trying it out, I found it amusing.

    It is still a typical MMO, though, and it quickly lost my interest, but if 'typical MMO' was what I was looking for at the moment, I would be far more inclined to play Scarlet Blade than any other game with these kinds of target/use skills mechanics.  It's reasonably fun for its style, decently translated, has sexy content and it laughs at the typical reaction people have toward that content by poking fun at everything involved.  I say well done to both the game's creators and the localization team.

  • DihoruDihoru Member Posts: 2,731
    Originally posted by Bladestrom
    jeezus it's like talking to kids. Let's make it clear as possible. I do not allow my kids to play these games, however this is not about me. The point is simple, some kids get their hands on these games. So again for the mullionth time, as with every other single mmorg out there - KIDS PLAY THIS GAME. It not the fault of the adults that play this game that kids are there, but reality is reality, so If I was an adult who wanted to play this game, I wouldn't be able to because the presence of children makes it inappropriate.

    Oh but it is the fault of the adult parents if their child plays a game which they shouldn't so stop dodging the point by saying "so what? reality is something else!". Reality is a good portion of parents don't take an active interest in their child's wellbeing and some smother them with their concepts (I'll let you mill over which category "I don't allow my children to play x games because I believe it is wrong!" belong to) and both those invariably lead to rather disturbing results ( kids either playing games with their disinterested parent's approval or sneaking it in under the nose of the overbearing parent because it is the forbidden fruit ).

     

    Also as basic, basic etiquette in online settings you don't hit on anything that moves and you have a good idea is harbouring a pair of X chromosomes because it's just bad manners and it also protects both you and the respective person from any nasty surprises should you hit on her and it goes well. As with real life it is always best to know what you're dealing with first.

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  • UnwrapmeUnwrapme Member UncommonPosts: 1

    What was funny is I decided to try this game out after seeing it on the top 5 worst MMOs of 2013, i found it hilarious, being a female gamer, i was very amused by this game, but bored easily at the lack of content. I was not offended, why would I be? it's just boobs. I found the armor cute.

    Calling this game porn is completely wrong. It is simple fanservice and eyecandy.

  • BladestromBladestrom Member UncommonPosts: 5,001
    Considering I do think it's the parents fault if kids play this game, and parents are responsible then I'm dodging nothing. My point is fault asside, the kids have got in there. So that's the reality to be dealt with. To your credit your the first poster on this thread to actually aknowledge the problem and how to deal with a situation where you think it's a child playing a char, which is what i was talking about when I saying adults should be aware of their surroundings and take responsibilty as well. Parents are responsible for them getting in there, adults playing the game are therefore forced by the environment forced apon them to act responsible thereafter to desl with those children. from a lot of the posts in here many seem to deny (and therefore does not consider the age of) the possibility that children are in there, and ignorance is no defense.

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  • evilastroevilastro Member Posts: 4,270
    Originally posted by Bladestrom
    Considering I do think it's the parents fault if kids play this game, and parents are responsible then I'm dodging nothing. My point is fault asside, the kids have got in there. So that's the reality to be dealt with. To your credit your the first poster on this thread to actually aknowledge the problem and how to deal with a situation where you think it's a child playing a char, which is what i was talking about when I saying adults should be aware of their surroundings and take responsibilty as well. Parents are responsible for them getting in there, adults playing the game are therefore forced by the environment forced apon them to act responsible thereafter to desl with those children. from a lot of the posts in here many seem to deny (and therefore does not consider the age of) the possibility that children are in there, and ignorance is no defense.

     

    Oh please, Scarlet Blade is probably one of the tamest things you can find on the internet. If thats all your kids are looking at you should be thankful. 

  • BladestromBladestrom Member UncommonPosts: 5,001
    Tame relative to other things does not make it right.

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  • DihoruDihoru Member Posts: 2,731
    Originally posted by Bladestrom
    Tame relative to other things does not make it right.

    Relative things are relative and right is also a very subjective term. Yes You can get allot of nudity in Scarlet Blade but that's still "not not right" because to be honest any teen 13 and up likely knows what redtube is and has at least seen one hardcore porno (with or without parental knowledge, you cannot watch the buggers 24/7), does it seem right that softcore nudity be taboo when hardcore sex isn't? To be honest if I had kids, past the age of 12 I would go from trying to shield them from stuff to just telling them "look you can play any game you want, watch any movie you want, read any book you want as long as we can talk about the ones which deal with sex, race, religion and any other topic which is important to get objectively right" and I'd do this because I know it is impossible to police everything your kids/teens do, it's better for them to be comfortable discussing anything with you and you having the option of steering them away via logic (not fear of parental punishment) from the objectively bad things in life (smoking, drinking too much, doing drugs, etc) than ending up with a son or daughter on 16 and pregnant-type shows.

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  • BladestromBladestrom Member UncommonPosts: 5,001

    lol so by your own arguement you weould allow kids to play Scarlet Blade.  Your actually proposing exposing your children to danger.  Perhaps you should go look at some professional studies on the damage early exposure to sexual content (not just hardcore) on the internet Specifically is doing to children right now, my wife is a teacher and most if not all teachers are well aware of these dangers - ive seen some of the studies, its scarey.   there are reasons why games have age restrictions that are based on scientific fact so if a parent decides to ignore that then they are harming their kids through ignorance (at best)  Over the last 10 years the desensitisation to sex online has got worse, as can be seen right here.

    This has also got nothing to do with having an open realtionship with kids, you can have an open relationship and not allow them to access things that are harmful. 

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  • DihoruDihoru Member Posts: 2,731
    Originally posted by Bladestrom

    lol so by your own arguement you weould allow kids to play Scarlet Blade.  Your actually proposing exposing your children to danger.  Perhaps you should go look at some professional studies on the damage early exposure to sexual content (not just hardcore) on the internet Specifically is doing to children right now, my wife is a teacher and most if not all teachers are well aware of these dangers - ive seen some of the studies, its scarey.   there are reasons why games have age restrictions that are based on scientific fact so if a parent decides to ignore that then they are harming their kids through ignorance (at best)  Over the last 10 years the desensitisation to sex online has got worse, as can be seen right here.

    This has also got nothing to do with having an open realtionship with kids, you can have an open relationship and not allow them to access things that are harmful. 

    Yes I would allow them to play whatever they wanted to as long as with online games (any of em) I'd have a nice long talk to em about how to deal with interpersonal relationships and any game with a strong message or strong story (such as the Walking Dead by Telltale games) I'd help them understand things.
     

    The only danger that exists to kids/teens and the only damage that could occur is if they go off on their own and wing it and I know this from personal experience (I've seen what hands off parents did to some of high-school classmates, I've seen one poignant case against policing your child where a girl suddenly discovered that sex is good and promptly went from going to school regularly to visiting maybe once every 2-3 months and missing from home for weeks on end, these being the better examples) not from some study conducted for god knows what reason by god knows who and more importantly paid for by god knows who. That's if they have the correct sample sizes as well and differentiate between kids with disinterested parents, kids with ok parents and kids with overbearing parents.

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  • BladestromBladestrom Member UncommonPosts: 5,001
    Yes you know better than professionals. Remain in blissfully ignorance and choose not to educate yourself as u wish.

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  • BladestromBladestrom Member UncommonPosts: 5,001
    Ah you are in high school, ok I understand a bit now. Have a look at the verification process for accepted and published stories- you mention a couple annacdotal incidents - good studies encompasses the analysts of thousands of such cases and collates statistical data over an appropriate sample size. Studies conducted by experts who understand human behaviour. That data is superior to anything that individuals like us can produce.

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  • ZocatZocat Member Posts: 3

    Originally posted by Arthasm

    If we stop talk about nudity for like 1 minute, can any defender of game can explain what the hell game has to offer, except being 1 in ocean of 9999999 generic shit? 

    That's actually what I wanted to learn by reading the review. It does mention classes and "that makes for some interesting concepts", but it doesn't explain what. Is it holy trinity? Can you crossclass?

    I also have no fucking clue how the leveling there works. Is it quest based? Lots of grinding? Are there "dungeons"? Solo / party oriented content during leveling?

     

    And that's my major problem with the "review" - after reading it I learned almost nothing about the game (skill system & it has boobs, but I figured that out by looking at a screenshot, the ads, ...).

     

    If you want to write your opinion, post on the forums, write an opinionated column, whatever. But dont call it a "review"....

  • ZocatZocat Member Posts: 3

    Originally posted by Bladestrom

     there are reasons why games have age restrictions that are based on scientific fact so if a parent decides to ignore that then they are harming their kids through ignorance (at best) 


     

    If age restrictions are based on scientific facts, why are their different age restrictions for different countries?

    Age restrictions are just an arbitrary number chosen by the government. Be it age for the driving license, legal drinking age, legal buying alcohol age,age of consent and age for video game content.

  • BattlerockBattlerock Member CommonPosts: 1,393

    My Longevity score went from a 4 to a 10 then back to a 4 I don't know what happened.

     

    At any rate - I have to agree with degrading and embarrassing experience. I know video games are known for controversy, but we are getting to the point now that the focus should be shifted more toward class (not type of character, class as in classy) than controversy.

  • DihoruDihoru Member Posts: 2,731
    Originally posted by Bladestrom
    Ah you are in high school, ok I understand a bit now. Have a look at the verification process for accepted and published stories- you mention a couple annacdotal incidents - good studies encompasses the analysts of thousands of such cases and collates statistical data over an appropriate sample size. Studies conducted by experts who understand human behaviour. That data is superior to anything that individuals like us can produce.

    Finished my Bachelor's in Physics last summer, thank you very much.

    Studies are just that, studies, they attempt to link societal tendencies to external stimuli but more often than not fail to take into account the human element. As for the term expert... you'd be surprised how little these people actually know and how much their biases affect their results. As for the data being superior... that's debatable, unless their sample sizes are in the millions across multiple cultures and races the data cannot be taken as anything more than a vague idea at best of the tendencies of the average individual within a given geographical area.

     

    I get that you want to have something to give you an idea what to do but citing studies done in a limited timeframe and/or area does not give you a right in this situation, it gives you an idea in your area. The only time I'll bend ear to a study is one which brings together multiple studies from multiple countries around the globe over a certain timespan preferably revisiting individuals question over time and gives you a clear set of answers, otherwise you're just being pointed in a certain direction and asked to shoot in the dark.

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  • BladestromBladestrom Member UncommonPosts: 5,001
    I've been a parent for 16 years, Mu wife has been a teacher for 10, and I have been a developer for 12 so I have had plenty time to have an informed opinion (note, opinion) An opinion based on known credited fact. As i said you are not qualified to make sweeping statements discrediting all studies in a field that is not in your own expertise, either am i, but i am smart enough to aknowledge expertise belonging to others. Personal perception is not allways correct, you should know this. The world is indeed round it seems.

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