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Server locations NA and EU players together or not?

KothosesKothoses Member UncommonPosts: 921

Did a quick search but couldnt turn up a definitive answer to this.

 

Will NA and EU players be on the same servers?  If not will they be accessible by any player or will the different regions have their own region locked version of the game?

 

I play with people from both sides of the pond and I am really hoping I get to keep the group together without having to jump through too many hoops.

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  • KrimzinKrimzin Member UncommonPosts: 687

    I just dont see how this could possibly happen. The biggest part of the game is the community and having a server with people so wide spread in timezones would be hard. Not to mention the language barriers.
    More than likely it will be like every other MMO.. NA Servers, Euro Servers and possibly Asia Servers.

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  • RalstlinRalstlin Member UncommonPosts: 234
    There will be European Servers (located in Europe) and US servers (located in US of course) but noone will be restricted, go where you want.
  • darkiondarkion Member UncommonPosts: 2
    Originally posted by Krimzin

    I just dont see how this could possibly happen. The biggest part of the game is the community and having a server with people so wide spread in timezones would be hard. Not to mention the language barriers.
    More than likely it will be like every other MMO.. NA Servers, Euro Servers and possibly Asia Servers.

    FFXI has world servers (NA,EU and Asia players on the same server). There is an ingame tool that helps auto translating somes (if not most) names/skills/items to other languages English/German/Japanes/French depending on the language of your client.

     

    FFXIV also had this server types and the auto translating tool. But they have chosen to build server shards/cluster (what you wanna call it) in NA, EU and Asia but you and your friend can choose in which server you want to play. Considering ping and time zones...it was never a problem in FFXI and neither in FFXIV

  • duuude007duuude007 Member Posts: 112
    Originally posted by darkion
    Originally posted by Krimzin

    I just dont see how this could possibly happen. The biggest part of the game is the community and having a server with people so wide spread in timezones would be hard. Not to mention the language barriers.
    More than likely it will be like every other MMO.. NA Servers, Euro Servers and possibly Asia Servers.

    FFXI has world servers (NA,EU and Asia players on the same server). There is an ingame tool that helps auto translating somes (if not most) names/skills/items to other languages English/German/Japanes/French depending on the language of your client.

     

    FFXIV also had this server types and the auto translating tool. But they have chosen to build server shards/cluster (what you wanna call it) in NA, EU and Asia but you and your friend can choose in which server you want to play. Considering ping and time zones...it was never a problem in FFXI and neither in FFXIV

    Listed below is publicly known info:

    There are data centers located in different parts of the world to allow players to pick a world server and minimize latency issues.

    That said, the in-game duty finder is designed to effectively be "worldless", so you can use it to go to any instance, and team up with any player in the other world servers, as long as you have visited the instance before.

  • VentlusVentlus Member Posts: 96
    i would prefer it if the servers where open world like how they have been. I liked to play with the japanese players  in FFXI some of my best friends at the time. 
  • zevianzevian Member UncommonPosts: 403
    Originally posted by Krimzin

    I just dont see how this could possibly happen. The biggest part of the game is the community and having a server with people so wide spread in timezones would be hard. Not to mention the language barriers.
    More than likely it will be like every other MMO.. NA Servers, Euro Servers and possibly Asia Servers.

    FFXI allowed us to play with Japanese players.   It was pretty nice too, they had a great tool for translation so you could communicate about basic in game things.   The japanese players also seemed to work better together.   I kind of miss that translator tool when playing with people speaking other languages now.

  • duuude007duuude007 Member Posts: 112
    The autotranslate tool is in FFXIV, and they said it will continue to be improved beyond its version in 1.23
  • KothosesKothoses Member UncommonPosts: 921

    Thank you for the answers people, appreciate it.

     

     

  • YaevinduskYaevindusk Member RarePosts: 2,094

     

    They released something relating to this today.  Personally I thought it was mentioned on the forums already, but I don't see it on the first page.  Therefore I'll just make a link for you all.

     

    http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com/pl/topics/detail?id=b3d8f31642df4d9b36fc8b90cbb01abcd96290cf

     

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  • DzoneDzone Member UncommonPosts: 371

    I'm wondering which regional server i should be on. Im in the USA, but i have odd hours cause i work 3rd shift. My time is 5pm CST, till 8 am CST. Which server should i choose USA or EU?

  • danwest58danwest58 Member RarePosts: 2,012

    http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/blog/post/361

     

    http://www.investquebec.com/en/index.aspx?page=3119

     

    From what I read ALL NA and EU servers will be in Montreal.  EU players will play on the follow EU servers and NA players will play on NA servers.

    Cerberus (EU)

    Moogle (EU)

    Odin (EU)

    Shiva (EU)

     

    NA servers

    Adamantoise

    Behemoth

    Cactuar

    Coeurl

    Diabolos

    Gilgamesh

    Goblin

    Leviathan

    Malboro

    Midgardsormr

    Ultros

  • taus01taus01 Member Posts: 1,352
    Originally posted by Ralstlin
    There will be European Servers (located in Europe) and US servers (located in US of course) but noone will be restricted, go where you want.

    Wrong, there is one Datacenter in the US for both. Here is the IP: 184.107.107.176 in case you want to test your ping. In Montreal.

     

    PS: Just saw the poster before me say the same. 

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  • DzoneDzone Member UncommonPosts: 371
    You know, i dont know if i really like divided regional servers. In ffxi we played side by side with peaple from all over the world. There was always someone on the server at all hours. Plus i'de probly miss seeing all that japaneze spam in the chat box. I didn't mind playing with jap peaple, they were pretty cool, i could translate with them just fine, with that auto-translater ffxi had. I dont know why they wanna seperate us for. But i dont wanna play on a pure japaneze server. The community of ffxiv is gona feel weird to me, but i guss i'll get used to it after awhile.
  • AmbrosiaAmorAmbrosiaAmor Member Posts: 915

    Hmm... I'm on Gungnir. I used to be in 8 link shells, but 7 of those broke off by the time 1.20 came along. I'm not sure if I should stay there or if I should move to a NA/EU server. I like to choose the most populated server... in this case I wouldn't be surprised if Excalibur or Ragnarok take first place for NA.

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  • HomituHomitu Member UncommonPosts: 2,030
    Originally posted by Krimzin

    I just dont see how this could possibly happen. The biggest part of the game is the community and having a server with people so wide spread in timezones would be hard. Not to mention the language barriers.
    More than likely it will be like every other MMO.. NA Servers, Euro Servers and possibly Asia Servers.

    You must have never played FFXI.  The only servers they had for that were located in Japan.  The entire world played on the same servers.  You can communicate with anyone from any language via the auto translate function, which was basically a library of a few thousand words and phrases that anyone could begin to type in their native language, tab to pull up a list of phrases that match the typed text so far, and choose the appropriate phrase that most closely matches the typer's intended meaning.  Everyone who reads that text will then see it in their own language.  It essentially became a unique language and vocabulary in itself that players gradually learned while playing the game.

    I actually have fond memories of running with Japanese power leveling parties from 1-6am lol. 

    The biggest disadvantage, of course, was latency issues.  There were very few circumstances where this was really an issue though.  There was no PvP (at least when I played), so no disadvantage there.  There was enough time to communicate and execute player combos (skill chains involving two weapon skills + a magic burst), so that was never an issue.  But when it came to tagging Notorious Monsters in the open world, if you saw someone with an Asian name camping the spot, you might as well just leave.  You'd never get it before him.  

  • danwest58danwest58 Member RarePosts: 2,012
    Originally posted by AmbrosiaAmor

    Hmm... I'm on Gungnir. I used to be in 8 link shells, but 7 of those broke off by the time 1.20 came along. I'm not sure if I should stay there or if I should move to a NA/EU server. I like to choose the most populated server... in this case I wouldn't be surprised if Excalibur or Ragnarok take first place for NA.

    Excalibur would be your NA legacy server then you want.  Ragnarok is an EU server.

  • azarhalazarhal Member RarePosts: 1,402
    Originally posted by taus01
    Originally posted by Ralstlin
    There will be European Servers (located in Europe) and US servers (located in US of course) but noone will be restricted, go where you want.

    Wrong, there is one Datacenter in the US for both. Here is the IP: 184.107.107.176 in case you want to test your ping. In Montreal.

    *sigh* Montréal is in Québec, Canada. It's not in the US...

     

  • duuude007duuude007 Member Posts: 112
    Originally posted by azarhal
    Originally posted by taus01
    Originally posted by Ralstlin
    There will be European Servers (located in Europe) and US servers (located in US of course) but noone will be restricted, go where you want.

    Wrong, there is one Datacenter in the US for both. Here is the IP: 184.107.107.176 in case you want to test your ping. In Montreal.

    *sigh* Montréal is in Québec, Canada. It's not in the US...

     

    The Montreal data center pings at 90 ms from where I live in Idaho.

    Montreal's data center also pings 100 ms from England.

    It is the ideal location due to the high population nearby, its relative distance from Japan, and the very robust fiber network connecting it with the Americas and Europe.

    That said, I have a feeling if the game popularity continues to grow, they would consider adding more data centers near other large concentrations of players.

  • VrikaVrika Member LegendaryPosts: 7,888
    Originally posted by duuude007
    The Montreal data center pings at 90 ms from where I live in Idaho.

    Montreal's data center also pings 100 ms from England.

    It is the ideal location due to the high population nearby, its relative distance from Japan, and the very robust fiber network connecting it with the Americas and Europe.

    That said, I have a feeling if the game popularity continues to grow, they would consider adding more data centers near other large concentrations of players.

    Using Britain and Idaho as comparison for pings is a bit unfair to EU players. Britain is about as close to Montreal as you can get within Europe, and most of the European players will have their connections routed through there so that their ping is time for signal to travel within Europe plus ping from Britain to Montreal.

    EU players can expect nearly 100ms worse pings than NA players.

    Montreal is not a bad location for data center if you want to have only one, but EU players will suffer a bit if the game requires quick reactions.

     
  • duuude007duuude007 Member Posts: 112
    Originally posted by Vrika
    Originally posted by duuude007
    The Montreal data center pings at 90 ms from where I live in Idaho.

    Montreal's data center also pings 100 ms from England.

    It is the ideal location due to the high population nearby, its relative distance from Japan, and the very robust fiber network connecting it with the Americas and Europe.

    That said, I have a feeling if the game popularity continues to grow, they would consider adding more data centers near other large concentrations of players.

    Using Britain and Idaho as comparison for pings is a bit unfair to EU players. Britain is about as close to Montreal as you can get within Europe, and most of the European players will have their connections routed through there so that their ping is time for signal to travel within Europe plus ping from Britain to Montreal.

    EU players can expect nearly 100ms worse pings than NA players.

    Montreal is not a bad location for data center if you want to have only one, but EU players will suffer a bit if the game requires quick reactions.

    Hey, look at it this way. before this you would have to resort to pinging Japan, and as long as the game prospers, I don't see why europe wouldn't be an ideal 3rd site for future expansions.

  • SimonVDHSimonVDH Member Posts: 178

    Originally posted by Vrika

    Originally posted by duuude007
    The Montreal data center pings at 90 ms from where I live in Idaho.

    Montreal's data center also pings 100 ms from England.

    It is the ideal location due to the high population nearby, its relative distance from Japan, and the very robust fiber network connecting it with the Americas and Europe.

    That said, I have a feeling if the game popularity continues to grow, they would consider adding more data centers near other large concentrations of players.

    Using Britain and Idaho as comparison for pings is a bit unfair to EU players. Britain is about as close to Montreal as you can get within Europe, and most of the European players will have their connections routed through there so that their ping is time for signal to travel within Europe plus ping from Britain to Montreal.

    EU players can expect nearly 100ms worse pings than NA players.

    Montreal is not a bad location for data center if you want to have only one, but EU players will suffer a bit if the game requires quick reactions.

    Originally posted by taus01

    Originally posted by Ralstlin
    There will be European Servers (located in Europe) and US servers (located in US of course) but noone will be restricted, go where you want.

    Wrong, there is one Datacenter in the US for both. Here is the IP: 184.107.107.176 in case you want to test your ping. In Montreal.

     

    PS: Just saw the poster before me say the same. 

    128 ms ping from central europe... not great, not bad (for a MMO)

  • Elegance92Elegance92 Member Posts: 93
    260 ping from south east asia, guess it will be pretty unplayable for me. ah well.
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