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So what's the deal with the Scholar job teases?

AlberelAlberel Member Posts: 1,121

The latest dev blog from Fernehalwes was released a couple of days ago, found here.

He dropped a slight tease of the Scholar job when mentioning some new artwork.

This artwork is now available on their Facebook page here and indeed that IS a picture of the Scholar alongside all the other known jobs.

Anyone know anything more about this that I might have missed from any releases? It sounds to me like we may be seeing an additional new class/job besides Arcanist/Summoner at launch.

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  • XerenixXerenix Member UncommonPosts: 237

    No official response from SE so people are just speculating right now.

     

    Some say it's the Arcanist class since that person have a book in her hand and it's in the photo simply because it's a new class while other say it's the Scholar Job because of the hat and that all the other characters are also Jobs.

    No way of really knowing until SE announces it but my guess is that it's a Scholar simply because of this line in the Blog:

    Rumor has it that all of the gear shown here is actually in the game! Which would mean that bookish beauty in the mortar board on the far right is...!!!

  • AlberelAlberel Member Posts: 1,121

    Yeah, well I suppose it's possible that it's the Arcanist... but to give them a mortarboard, a well known trademark of the Scholar job, would be a little mean.

    The dev blog made the implication that the class/job was whatever we associate with the mortarboard, and well... that's the Scholar.

    Thinking about it the Scholar wouldn't actually need a base class as they're just the combination of White and Black mage. It's quite possibly a new job evolving from Thaumaturge and Conjuror. With that in mind it would be less development work and a little more believable that they've been working on something in secret.

    I guess we'll have to wait for E3 for clarification on this one. /sigh

    EDIT: Yep that quote you added is the one I was referring to. I'd say it's pretty clear what direction they wanted us thinking in.

  • Snowdon_CloudripperSnowdon_Cloudripper Member CommonPosts: 584
    It is Arcanist http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/game/armoury/magic/arcanist Read the description and look at the picture . It looks like Scholar but its not . Now I think the job/class tree can branch off more then what SE is letting on . Example right now we have Arcanist > Summonor but there could be a third branch of the tree that is Scholar . Noting official as of yet

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  • volttvoltt Member UncommonPosts: 432

    probably summoner rather then scholar, since summoner job is going to be in this version

     

  • AlberelAlberel Member Posts: 1,121
    Originally posted by Inigo_Montoya
    It is Arcanist http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/game/armoury/magic/arcanist Read the description and look at the picture . It looks like Scholar but its not . Now I think the job/class tree can branch off more then what SE is letting on . Example right now we have Arcanist > Summonor but there could be a third branch of the tree that is Scholar . Noting official as of yet

    Except that picture looks nothing like the character in the new artwork. It's a completely different outfit and makes no mention of the mortarboard in either the description or images.

    On top of that the dev blog picked up on the character with the mortarboard specifically. He did not pick up on the summoner on the other side of the image. If he were picking up on the arcanist (which we've already seen) then why not equally highlight the new summoner art?

    I know part of me is just really wanting this to be a surprise new job, but the way Ferne teased about it just doesn't make sense if it were just the Arcanist...

    EDIT: Ok the ONLY link is the grimoire. But if that were the case why wouldn't they just call the Arcanist the 'Scholar'? If the Arcanist uses the Scholar's equipment they effectively make the legitimate implementation of the Scholar impossible now.

    Originally posted by voltt

    probably summoner rather then scholar, since summoner job is going to be in this version

    The summoner is on the other side of the image. It's definitely not summoner.

  • Snowdon_CloudripperSnowdon_Cloudripper Member CommonPosts: 584
    Originally posted by Alberel
    Originally posted by Inigo_Montoya
    It is Arcanist http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/game/armoury/magic/arcanist Read the description and look at the picture . It looks like Scholar but its not . Now I think the job/class tree can branch off more then what SE is letting on . Example right now we have Arcanist > Summonor but there could be a third branch of the tree that is Scholar . Noting official as of yet

    Except that picture looks nothing like the character in the new artwork. It's a completely different outfit and makes no mention of the mortarboard in either the description or images.

    On top of that the dev blog picked up on the character with the mortarboard specifically. He did not pick up on the summoner on the other side of the image. If he were picking up on the arcanist (which we've already seen) then why not equally highlight the new summoner art?

    I know part of me is just really wanting this to be a surprise new job, but the way Ferne teased about it just doesn't make sense if it were just the Arcanist...

    Originally posted by voltt

    probably summoner rather then scholar, since summoner job is going to be in this version

    The summoner is on the other side of the image. It's definitely not summoner.

    I could be the Arcanist AF gear . The blog said all the "gear" shown is in the game .

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  • neoryudoneoryudo Member Posts: 15

    i do not normally post here that often but this thread caught my eye and i thought i would drop some new info in

     

    there was a TEST Live stream today by Soken and Mocchi, and Soken came in wearing a Mortarboard,

     

     

     

    now this could be a Coincidence ?, but i think not, Soken also leaked the Benchmark before it was out as well, now one last thing to add to this is, some translation of what was saying after Yoshi came on

    y; and why was the broadcast stopped?
    s; we didn’t know it stopped and kept on going
    y; after this i have to record after this to make the commentary, i haven’t slept, and i can’t move
    s; can I borrow your shaver
    y; what’s this?
    m; this is osute stuff we put on you
    y; yeah, and what do you have on?
    s; I can’t say it from my mouth... 
    y; it’s Scholar right? 
    y; you want to say Scholar right? 
    y; I’ll say it again, this is Scholar right?
    s; Yes it’s Scholar! 
    other - that’s not good, Scholar is not good.
    y; i want to tell the PR guys, we get in trouble but you guys are leaking Arcanist and Summoner, battle team is really pissed off and I have to treat them Yakiniku after this.
    y; you telling me it’s not good now, it’s not bad, all those customers are following up and where people are asking what the hell is that, others saying just think about devs and keep quiet.

    To me that pretty much confirms it, either way we will see tomorrow on the Live Letter, 

     

    P.S if it is not SCH then Soken, and Yoshi are the biggest troll's in the world

  • WKMitchellWKMitchell Member UncommonPosts: 86

    Possible that maybe they are adding scholar as the first branching job choice.  Where arcanist can go either summoner or scholar at 30 with the appropriate sub job leveled.  If I had to guess summoner would be Arcanist 30/Con 15, with scholar Arcanist 30/Thm 15 would make sense based on the way the jobs play?

     

    One other thing I didn't get to AF gear levels in ver. 1.0 did the basic classes have AF as well as the jobs?  I was under the impression it was only Jobs that got AF.

  • danwest58danwest58 Member RarePosts: 2,012
    It also might play into have a Red Mage too.  No one knows for sure.
  • striderbobstriderbob Member UncommonPosts: 174
    Considering that Summoner will be in at launch it only makes sense that it is Arcanist, since Arcanist -> Summoner
  • redcloud16redcloud16 Member UncommonPosts: 220

    The image the original controversially sprung from on the ARR x IE 10 promotional website is a wheel of all the known jobs. plus one. 

     

    They are wearing an iconic gear set closely tied to a well known Final Fantasy job. Jobs are generally tied to iconic silhouettes and appearances. 

     

    They are using a book.

    • The way classes and jobs work is based off of the weapon; Jobs use the weapon the class they are equipped to uses
    • Generally, weapons are pretty tied to the class; lances for lancer, bows for archer, swords for gladiator, etc
     

    Fernelhawes' blog post further fanned the flames of rumour without adding anything concrete

     

    The Live Letter test from this morning had Soken wearing a mortarboard hat, and Yoshi himself said it was a Scholar (in reference to Soken) then got flustered with PR about something concerning the subject. 

     

    Yoshi has said before that they wanted to make it so multiple jobs could come from one class in the future. 

     

    Using context clues, it's the Scholar Job branching from the Arcanist Class. 

     

                         -- Summoner 

    Arcanist <

                         --Scholar

     

    Saying it is Arcanist, while possible, wouldn't make any sense as the gear it is wearing would then be intentionally misleading on a large scale, as well as its placement among a ring of jobs despite being a class. Its possible, but highly doubtful. That would mean they intentionally wanted to confuse literally everyone who looked at the artwork that is probably going to be plastered everywhere. If it was Arcanist, they would be breaking the point of Job gear being designed with unique silhouettes. It just . . . it just doesn't make sense to me that it would be Arcanist. 

    image

  • MuruganMurugan Member Posts: 1,494
    It is not Arcanist because they wouldn't "tease" Arcanist like they did in the blog/ live letter test feed.  It would not be featured on the box alongside the other iconic jobs (where no other classes are featured).  Arcanist is a lowly class, no one cares about Arcanist except that it is a requirement to unlock Summoner (and Scholar).
  • redcloud16redcloud16 Member UncommonPosts: 220

    Confirmed as Scholar in the latest Live Letter by none other than Yoshida himself

     

    Official Forum translation source:

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/62075-Letter-from-the-Producer-LIVE-Part-VII-Q-A-Updates?p=998077&viewfull=1#post998077

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  • AlberelAlberel Member Posts: 1,121
    Originally posted by redcloud16

    Confirmed as Scholar in the latest Live Letter by none other than Yoshida himself

     

    Official Forum translation source:

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/62075-Letter-from-the-Producer-LIVE-Part-VII-Q-A-Updates?p=998077&viewfull=1#post998077

    Was just coming back to post that. That is a REALLY awesome surprise!

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