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Don't bother with DFUW it's overrun by cheaters.
MrBoots
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Aimbots, Speedhacks, and Desyncers! OH MY!
The devs promised that the hacks would be detected and the cheaters would be banned, but it's not happening. There is even a post on their forums describing a method to desync your character so you can make it almost impossible for other players to hit you. It has been up for days with no response from the devs.
Last night I'm killing Ogres with a couple of pals. A naked guy named mad africa runs in and slaughters my friend almost instantly. I'm in plate armor with 32k prowess so I figure that I can take this naked guy with ease. Nope! I cant even land hits on the guy with my polearm. He's desynced, and practically invulnerable. After realizing that I can't damage him, I hop on my mount and try to flee. He uses his stampede, and is all over my mount. It goes down after a few hits. I use my stampede and run until it runs out. He is still right on top of me. I use my second mount and I still cant get out of his melee range. He's not even using stampede (on cooldown) but he takes down my mount with ease.
I petitioned a GM, but just got the standard "we will look into it" response. This isn't the first time either. I've been shot off my mount with 100% precision by aimbotting skirmishers at long distances while weaving around bushes and trees. I've seen guys flying in the sky. I've seen guys that just teleport away from me in pvp. I have even seen a guy's head pop up from under the ground to take a chaos chest that was right in front of me.
Why would anyone continue paying for something with so little content when they can't even stop the cheaters?
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Think about it logically - aimbots won't work like that, unless its an aimbot with a human-like AI that can predict which direction you turn every single time (you said you were far away) and it would also have to calculate distance away from you in order to determine how high the crosshair has to be to account for the trajectory. You almost got me there.
Thus, I conclude that you are exaggerating many of your points. I'm not saying you're completely wrong but when people lose, they are quick to blame it on others cheating. Personally I haven't encountered any cheaters but every game is sure to have at least a few cheaters.
Play the game and see for yourself. I don't see any issues. Although my 20 ping makes people call me a hacker. Fix your network. Don't use WiFi as your connection to your router. A few simple things will make you just as good as everyone else. This isn't a target based game. It is an FPS. So if your on dial-up or broken cable you better like crafting because that is all you will be doing.
I had issues in DF1.0 because of Comcast. There was a leaky AMP on the hard lines causing my upload signal to drop. Took me 3 months to get them to fix it. In Warhammer Online it didn't do anything because that is a carebear target based game. DF1.0 it killed the experience completely. I could imagine someone who doesn't have cable or PC tech experience to blame Darkfall instead of Comcast.
Edit: I am also the one that posted a flying cheater that got banned on this forum. AV catches and ban's these players quick. The things they do can be done in other games as well. Maybe AV should add flying mounts like Blizzard did to help curb this exploit.
The definition of insanity: doing the same thing over and over expecting different results.
Erm....no.
The script you describe is really quite easy to make. There was at least one made for PS2 that did precisely this, calculated firing arc to target.
Its a hack, all you would need to do is point at the target and the script does the rest....maybe not even that.
Not saying this exists in DFUW, the population is so small I'd imagine it doesn't attract many decent script writers, but all it takes is one.
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Ehr Meh Gerd guys! Hackers EVERYWHERE!
Seriously though, hackers have been found and banned, but short of setting up some sort of client-side detection that is so detested by players, it is nearly impossible to stop all hackers.
Are lag and desync issues right now? Yea, but lag is a problem in all games, and I've had ZERO encounters like this so far, and I've experienced more of the game than most people. Furthermore, AV has acknowledged the problem and is working on it.
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What OP describe is very disturbing and a threat to the game.
I have seen many, many players that seem to be desynced, i see them first and then they disappear. Wether it is just lag or something else i dunno but if there is truth to what OP says then DFUW is in trouble.
They have been banning cheaters in the droves as seen by the Unholy banhammer site.
For anyone who hasn't tried this game. It has taken over my life... I play it way to much and have a BLAST doing it. I am always outside the savezone and pvp ALL the time just about. I personally have never seen solid evidence of ANYONE cheating personally. I know it does happen as they do ban people for it. But it is not very widespread at all.
I guarantee that less then 1% of DFUW players cheat.
There is an aimbot that calculates your distance from the target and your current speed and shoots up high enough just in order to hit it.
You dont need to calculate how high you have to send your arrows, etc to hit it...
Then there is the speedhack, the item dupe which "escaped" beta, etc...
All the info is available if you have pro google skills or know where to find. And the worst thing is, AV did not implement a "warden like" feature because of timeframe and budget, so that is why cheaters are rampant.
The people cheating who are getting banned are doing so because they were seen and reported, not because their system caught them.
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Really? 1%?
I'm sure 50% have cheated in some ways, just as accurate as your made up assumptions.
The projectiles take time to travel in the air, so over long distances aimbot would have to read your mind to predict where you're going to turn, or whether you will decide to jump.
OFC good skirmisher will always kill the running mount, even if he will miss 50% of his shots.
An item dupe is still in the game? I hope AV knows about this and squashes it asap; talk about a killer!
Yes there is, but people are being wise using it. You have to be smart and not let the surplus items enter economy, rather people are using it for crafting and construction mats.
Thats why some clans get wiped and rebuild everything so fast.
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I know there are Trolls and then There are Fanboy Trolls which one are you? When people cheat its not because they want to.It because the Game suxs and they dont care..I mean really.Why go through and pay $40 for the game and pay for sub each month just to cheat???Oh sure i can say the hype meter was high and AV is deleting the posts that say dont buy this game for x-amount of reasons..(Steam forum comes to mind)..And then we have fanboy troll post like your that states i dont have this problem..Do you really think people are Idiots?
I retired retroactively..Haha
It surprises me that the audience for such a game would behave this way.
The fact duping is in AGAIN at live launch is so sad and already makes the game a fail.... Have you reported the dupe at least to AV so they can fix it a few months from now?
So blatantly wrong. Only 4 characters have been banned for cheating. Learn to read the site you mentioned. Unholybanhammer.com
I wasn't going to anyway, the combat looks too "flighty" and honestly, I've never seen a "front page, new release" do as badly on Steam as this one. However, in the game's defense, it would be a good idea to post some links with your claim. Maybe they're not cheating, maybe they're just good.
Mad African belongs to dhw, I'm not sure who is playing him though I think it might be Itwasluck. Regardless these are the upper tier of players. Your story sounds like most likely you freaked out cause his movement was better, got hit a couple times and tried to run giving him your back for an easy kill. Highly unlikely this person was hacking more than likely your skill was lacking.
I am not saying hacks don't exist I'm just saying this wasn't one of those times.
Nah it's common that the so called "upper tier players" are invulnerable and have runspeed like a mount.
Typical baseless accusations.
If you see someone you think is hacking, report it or fraps it.
Otherwise stop trying to make excuses for why people are able to flawless you in PvP. If cheating was as rampant as people say there would be SWARMS of videos showing people hacking. To date I have seen ONE video, and that person was banned very quickly.
I mean really, there are TONS of people livestreaming the game. Don't you think that if cheating was as common as these people make it sound that there would be lots of videos of it?
DON'T LISTEN TO THE WHINERS. DFUW IS NOT OVERRUN BY HACKERS!
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Aimbots are far from 100%...in this game...a person can move...so the missle doesn't follow them. It's really only good for insta cast spells...I think the game only has 1.
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So how do you as a player detect aimbots? How do you detect the radars that see all players through terrain? How do you detect wallhack? There is a invulneribility cheat. A cheat that is called stick behind that glew yourself to your opponent. Desync cheat.
Are these cheats common? I dunno but they're there.
Very easy to find on google and youtube.
Actually there are aimbots in DFUW.
Without giving too much details here is what happens.
The software calculates:
Distance between YOU and TARGET
It calculates the distance you need to shoot above the TARGET so the arrow lands there.
Then it binds itself to the target and your view moves as when the target is moving (with the height adjusted as to fire)
It also calculates your speed and your targets speed when strafing, so it shoots not only above, but on the diagonals as to compensate for speed.
The paid multihack tool also does other things like texture modification so you can see through walls, folliage, rocks, etc..
It has speedhack and desync so you can "dodge" attacks, kinda like - you see me there, now you dont -
Map hack to see all harvesting nodes, enemy players, types of mobs, etc...
Now, I cant obviously tell you where to get it, but it is out there and while its not widely advertised, if you frequent some known website for cheats and hacks for MMOs, you can find it.
It is one of the main reasons why I quit.
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Yup - definitely there and their banhammer site has only banned what 3 people for "cheating" - the rest is ToS but they definitely mark it clearly when it is cheating and they have not detected many for that. You can only hope they have a ban wave in a month or so where they do.
I dare to even say that they have banned more cheaters but put under the "TOS" tag as to make people think there are not many cheaters, which would mean there are a lot of cheating tools.
So less "cheaters" tag makes people feel there are barely any cheaters with cheating tools.
It is not the case, most cheaters getting caught are the ones being extremely greedy (gathering the nodes and teleporting to the other, getting huge amount of duped items and passing them on to friends, speedhacking in front of a viewing player, etc)... But the people who are careful with what they cheat and how they do it, will in my opinion never get caught until AV has at the very very least a cheat detection mechanism, which they dont and we will probably not see them as it means using the scarce resources they cant afford to lose.
I got some friends who use it with caution and they tell me that it is a deciding factor in clan wars/sieges.
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