Originally posted by lifeordinary I had some keys saved up. Spent another 1000 saved up gems but no more. I am not a sucker getting sucked into money grab that is Hallowwen.
You already got suckered in. It's hilarious that you don't think you're part of it.
if he didn't spend any real money how is that getting suckered in?
time=money
so basically most other MMOs are triple screwing everyone.. they take up a ton of time, have cash shops, and charge a monthly sub
No one is screwing you on the time factor. With a join date of February and nearly 5000 post you have more then enough time to waste.
From where are people getting this 'most have saved loads of gems / gold'? some statistic or data you have access to? there is nothing more flawed than thinking that you = entire game population. Yes you people spent 0 cash because you had loads of gold and gems saved up but how are you so certain that is how the majority is?
I just recently read a topic on official forums about 'how much gold you have' and the most replies said around 10 to 20 gold.
Only naive people or hardcore GW2 supporters would deny that this event wasn't a money grab. i am sure Anet has more accurate data here regarding how much gold an average players has than anyone on these forums claiming 'most' or 'majority'.
If the evolution of mmorpgs is getting suckered into this kind of cash shop frenzy, my days as an mmorpg player are numbered.
most people have a lot of gems not spending a single dime of real money... honestly some people are incredibly spoiled considering this game has no monthly sub
Those gems that people have a lot of are just like real money, atleast in the GW2 eorld. In fact, real money is converted to gems.
Originally posted by lifeordinary I had some keys saved up. Spent another 1000 saved up gems but no more. I am not a sucker getting sucked into money grab that is Hallowwen.
You already got suckered in. It's hilarious that you don't think you're part of it.
if he didn't spend any real money how is that getting suckered in?
time=money
so basically most other MMOs are triple screwing everyone.. they take up a ton of time, have cash shops, and charge a monthly sub
There you go again. If there is an issue brought up about GW2, your response of "It's like this in every game." is getting tired, and misleading. No, no it's not.
Its actually interesting seeing people up in arms about this. It is a money trap, for those that fall for it. But to me it's no different than the money trap that is paying a sub....
Im going to send $20 since game come out ive spent nothing on gems so asfar as i see it still going to cost less than $15 a month subscription fee. Prob end up spending like $20 on all the events and it still cost me less than a monthily subsciption fee so i have no issues.
From where are people getting this 'most have saved loads of gems / gold'? some statistic or data you have access to? there is nothing more flawed than thinking that you = entire game population. Yes you people spent 0 cash because you had loads of gold and gems saved up but how are you so certain that is how the majority is?
I just recently read a topic on official forums about 'how much gold you have' and the most replies said around 10 to 20 gold.
Only naive people or hardcore GW2 supporters would deny that this event wasn't a money grab. i am sure Anet has more accurate data here regarding how much gold an average players has than anyone on these forums claiming 'most' or 'majority'.
So how much are you spending a year on your sub game? Do you rant and rave "over their" about their micro-transaction cash grabs and the xpac costs in addition to the sub fees? Oh, the naive subscription gamers and their self-righteous rationalizations that their money spent is justified.
Those other games do not have ingame lottery (gambling) systems, or gold buying.
From where are people getting this 'most have saved loads of gems / gold'? some statistic or data you have access to? there is nothing more flawed than thinking that you = entire game population. Yes you people spent 0 cash because you had loads of gold and gems saved up but how are you so certain that is how the majority is?
I just recently read a topic on official forums about 'how much gold you have' and the most replies said around 10 to 20 gold.
Only naive people or hardcore GW2 supporters would deny that this event wasn't a money grab. i am sure Anet has more accurate data here regarding how much gold an average players has than anyone on these forums claiming 'most' or 'majority'.
So how much are you spending a year on your sub game? Do you rant and rave "over their" about their micro-transaction cash grabs and the xpac costs in addition to the sub fees? Oh, the naive subscription gamers and their self-righteous rationalizations that their money spent is justified.
Those other games do not have ingame lottery (gambling) systems, or gold buying.
No, instead you have to pay 15 dollars a month. They both have money traps, just in different ways.
Originally posted by lifeordinary I had some keys saved up. Spent another 1000 saved up gems but no more. I am not a sucker getting sucked into money grab that is Hallowwen.
You already got suckered in. It's hilarious that you don't think you're part of it.
if he didn't spend any real money how is that getting suckered in?
time=money
so basically most other MMOs are triple screwing everyone.. they take up a ton of time, have cash shops, and charge a monthly sub
There you go again. If there is an issue brought up about GW2, your response of "It's like this in every game." is getting tired, and misleading. No, no it's not.
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Those other games cash shops do not involve ingame lottery (gambling) systems, or gold buying, nor do they encourage either. In fact they are discouraged to the point of banning.
edit - to your other post. A drop from a mob has nothing to do with buying lotto tickets from a cash shop.
Over the year for a sub, I'll pay about 156 dollars or about 46c a day.
From where are people getting this 'most have saved loads of gems / gold'? some statistic or data you have access to? there is nothing more flawed than thinking that you = entire game population. Yes you people spent 0 cash because you had loads of gold and gems saved up but how are you so certain that is how the majority is?
I just recently read a topic on official forums about 'how much gold you have' and the most replies said around 10 to 20 gold.
Only naive people or hardcore GW2 supporters would deny that this event wasn't a money grab. i am sure Anet has more accurate data here regarding how much gold an average players has than anyone on these forums claiming 'most' or 'majority'.
So how much are you spending a year on your sub game? Do you rant and rave "over there" about their micro-transaction cash grabs and the xpac costs in addition to the sub fees? Oh, the naive subscription gamers and their self-righteous rationalizations that their money spent is justified.
When i pay for a sub game i know what i am getting. It is not same as throwing money for lottery and that is what this whole event is.
I could acre less how and where people spend money but for me this is more of an ethical issue than anything else. I do not condone such activities and i believe players should not encourage this.
From where are people getting this 'most have saved loads of gems / gold'? some statistic or data you have access to? there is nothing more flawed than thinking that you = entire game population. Yes you people spent 0 cash because you had loads of gold and gems saved up but how are you so certain that is how the majority is?
I just recently read a topic on official forums about 'how much gold you have' and the most replies said around 10 to 20 gold.
Only naive people or hardcore GW2 supporters would deny that this event wasn't a money grab. i am sure Anet has more accurate data here regarding how much gold an average players has than anyone on these forums claiming 'most' or 'majority'.
Some poeple have there lengendairy which if u farmed everything else you would still need to pay 120g for merchant items. As for myself i have 60g in my bank atm and i dont farm a great deal, although i am working towards my legendary.
From where are people getting this 'most have saved loads of gems / gold'? some statistic or data you have access to? there is nothing more flawed than thinking that you = entire game population. Yes you people spent 0 cash because you had loads of gold and gems saved up but how are you so certain that is how the majority is?
I just recently read a topic on official forums about 'how much gold you have' and the most replies said around 10 to 20 gold.
Only naive people or hardcore GW2 supporters would deny that this event wasn't a money grab. i am sure Anet has more accurate data here regarding how much gold an average players has than anyone on these forums claiming 'most' or 'majority'.
So how much are you spending a year on your sub game? Do you rant and rave "over their" about their micro-transaction cash grabs and the xpac costs in addition to the sub fees? Oh, the naive subscription gamers and their self-righteous rationalizations that their money spent is justified.
Those other games do not have ingame lottery (gambling) systems, or gold buying.
So you cant buy gold for subscription based games??? well you can quite simply http://www.mmolive.com/ there hundred of differen sites. As for ingame gambling well thats another bust ive been in many game where players will start a little casino with the /roll command /roll 100 if you get above 60 double your cash above 90 is triple or along those lines. Ive seen this being dont in many games and usualy the Devs dont usualy mind, although games like WoW maple story and the other games designed for younger players will usualy ask you to stop but games for teenages and older players such as Everquest and rift they dont mind alteast ive nbever seen anyone of the Devs have a problem with it because teenages and adult are the fanbase.
From where are people getting this 'most have saved loads of gems / gold'? some statistic or data you have access to? there is nothing more flawed than thinking that you = entire game population. Yes you people spent 0 cash because you had loads of gold and gems saved up but how are you so certain that is how the majority is?
I just recently read a topic on official forums about 'how much gold you have' and the most replies said around 10 to 20 gold.
Only naive people or hardcore GW2 supporters would deny that this event wasn't a money grab. i am sure Anet has more accurate data here regarding how much gold an average players has than anyone on these forums claiming 'most' or 'majority'.
So how much are you spending a year on your sub game? Do you rant and rave "over there" about their micro-transaction cash grabs and the xpac costs in addition to the sub fees? Oh, the naive subscription gamers and their self-righteous rationalizations that their money spent is justified.
When i pay for a sub game i know what i am getting. It is not same as throwing money for lottery and that is what this whole event is.
I could acre less how and where people spend money but for me this is more of an ethical issue than anything else. I do not condone such activities and i believe players should not encourage this.
So your sub game doesn't have a lotttery based loot table? You don't have to grind rare bosses in raids and dungeons as a time sink hoping you get the rare drop? You can go into a raid/dungeon and get your best gear without that? You don't have to grind event tokens like in RIFT where you open lottery based items for a chance at the cool collectible?
This event doesn't required you to purchase lottery boxes (do you even play this game?). You can, but there are items for sale in the game shop for gems. You don't have to gamble for those any more than you must gamble for them in TSW.
And really? The sub people are going to mock cash shop gamers over $20? Where is their kneejerk, "you can't afford $15/mo? I spend that on beer in one night." argument? The double standards are hilarious and show when people actually have more of an agenda to push and less of a concern about their game play.
So you are trying to convence us that a random loot table is the same as buying keys from the cash shop?
From where are people getting this 'most have saved loads of gems / gold'? some statistic or data you have access to? there is nothing more flawed than thinking that you = entire game population. Yes you people spent 0 cash because you had loads of gold and gems saved up but how are you so certain that is how the majority is?
I just recently read a topic on official forums about 'how much gold you have' and the most replies said around 10 to 20 gold.
Only naive people or hardcore GW2 supporters would deny that this event wasn't a money grab. i am sure Anet has more accurate data here regarding how much gold an average players has than anyone on these forums claiming 'most' or 'majority'.
So how much are you spending a year on your sub game? Do you rant and rave "over there" about their micro-transaction cash grabs and the xpac costs in addition to the sub fees? Oh, the naive subscription gamers and their self-righteous rationalizations that their money spent is justified.
When i pay for a sub game i know what i am getting. It is not same as throwing money for lottery and that is what this whole event is.
I could acre less how and where people spend money but for me this is more of an ethical issue than anything else. I do not condone such activities and i believe players should not encourage this.
Same can be said for a buying a lottery ticket down at the newsagency. You know the chances of getting the money is slim but you still put some money down on it cause there a chance. The same thing here put down the money your confortable putting down and thats it.
Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.
From where are people getting this 'most have saved loads of gems / gold'? some statistic or data you have access to? there is nothing more flawed than thinking that you = entire game population. Yes you people spent 0 cash because you had loads of gold and gems saved up but how are you so certain that is how the majority is?
I just recently read a topic on official forums about 'how much gold you have' and the most replies said around 10 to 20 gold.
Only naive people or hardcore GW2 supporters would deny that this event wasn't a money grab. i am sure Anet has more accurate data here regarding how much gold an average players has than anyone on these forums claiming 'most' or 'majority'.
So how much are you spending a year on your sub game? Do you rant and rave "over their" about their micro-transaction cash grabs and the xpac costs in addition to the sub fees? Oh, the naive subscription gamers and their self-righteous rationalizations that their money spent is justified.
Those other games do not have ingame lottery (gambling) systems, or gold buying.
So you cant buy gold for subscription based games??? well you can quite simply http://www.mmolive.com/ there hundred of differen sites. As for ingame gambling well thats another bust ive been in many game where players will start a little casino with the /roll command /roll 100 if you get above 60 double your cash above 90 is triple or along those lines. Ive seen this being dont in many games and usualy the Devs dont usualy mind, although games like WoW maple story and the other games designed for younger players will usualy ask you to stop but games for teenages and older players such as Everquest and rift they dont mind alteast ive nbever seen anyone of the Devs have a problem with it because teenages and adult are the fanbase.
All that stuff you detailed here is against the terms and conditions of other mmos like WoW, RIFT, Swtor, and TSW. In fact these things are bannable. In GW2 Nexom/NCsoft/Anet supports, encourages and sells.
From where are people getting this 'most have saved loads of gems / gold'? some statistic or data you have access to? there is nothing more flawed than thinking that you = entire game population. Yes you people spent 0 cash because you had loads of gold and gems saved up but how are you so certain that is how the majority is?
I just recently read a topic on official forums about 'how much gold you have' and the most replies said around 10 to 20 gold.
Only naive people or hardcore GW2 supporters would deny that this event wasn't a money grab. i am sure Anet has more accurate data here regarding how much gold an average players has than anyone on these forums claiming 'most' or 'majority'.
So how much are you spending a year on your sub game? Do you rant and rave "over there" about their micro-transaction cash grabs and the xpac costs in addition to the sub fees? Oh, the naive subscription gamers and their self-righteous rationalizations that their money spent is justified.
When i pay for a sub game i know what i am getting. It is not same as throwing money for lottery and that is what this whole event is.
I could acre less how and where people spend money but for me this is more of an ethical issue than anything else. I do not condone such activities and i believe players should not encourage this.
So your sub game doesn't have a lotttery based loot table? You don't have to grind rare bosses in raids and dungeons as a time sink hoping you get the rare drop? You can go into a raid/dungeon and get your best gear without that? You don't have to grind event tokens like in RIFT where you open lottery based items for a chance at the cool collectible?
This event doesn't required you to purchase lottery boxes (do you even play this game?). You can, but there are items for sale in the game shop for gems. You don't have to gamble for those any more than you must gamble for them in TSW.
And really? The sub people are going to mock cash shop gamers over $20? Where is their kneejerk, "you can't afford $15/mo? I spend that on beer in one night." argument? The double standards are hilarious and show when people actually have more of an agenda to push and less of a concern about their game play.
Who is mocking anyone? didn't you just understand when i said this more of an ethical issue? and how is grinding dungeons for a rare drop = spending real life cash for lottery system? my whole point is about encouraging activities which involves real life cash that also ina game which is all about vanity because stats are meaningless. And by encouraging i don't simply mean buy something off the cash shop but playing a lottery system.
And yes i play the game. What else is '2% current rate of getting items from BLC with a key that costs almost a pound' is then if not lottery?
That is why i brought up the point that do you people have any data to prove that 'majority or most' of the players are sitting on heap of golds that they dont need to spend real life cash for these items? because if you are not then cash is the only way to get it. And i think since ANET knows how much gold an average player has they decided to make it avilable only through chests or TP instead of making it avilable through various halloween events.
And this is working because people are already spending obscene amount of gold / gem on keys.
Originally posted by lifeordinary I had some keys saved up. Spent another 1000 saved up gems but no more. I am not a sucker getting sucked into money grab that is Hallowwen.
You already got suckered in. It's hilarious that you don't think you're part of it.
if he didn't spend any real money how is that getting suckered in?
time=money
so basically most other MMOs are triple screwing everyone.. they take up a ton of time, have cash shops, and charge a monthly sub
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IMHO any game that came out after WoW (including WoW) are a joke for serious gamers. They are basic and tedious and everything egt handed to you on a silver platter you dont need to work towards anything, you just mindlessly follow the rails till you hit the end then yopu simply burn up time waiting for those rails to be extended in somcases a rediculous amount of time waiting cause develepers make content far to easy and they get completed in a couple weeks. I personaly miss pre WoW games because they had so much more depth to them and i feel sry for those gamers who started out played WoW or later games.
From where are people getting this 'most have saved loads of gems / gold'? some statistic or data you have access to? there is nothing more flawed than thinking that you = entire game population. Yes you people spent 0 cash because you had loads of gold and gems saved up but how are you so certain that is how the majority is?
I just recently read a topic on official forums about 'how much gold you have' and the most replies said around 10 to 20 gold.
Only naive people or hardcore GW2 supporters would deny that this event wasn't a money grab. i am sure Anet has more accurate data here regarding how much gold an average players has than anyone on these forums claiming 'most' or 'majority'.
So how much are you spending a year on your sub game? Do you rant and rave "over there" about their micro-transaction cash grabs and the xpac costs in addition to the sub fees? Oh, the naive subscription gamers and their self-righteous rationalizations that their money spent is justified.
When i pay for a sub game i know what i am getting. It is not same as throwing money for lottery and that is what this whole event is.
I could acre less how and where people spend money but for me this is more of an ethical issue than anything else. I do not condone such activities and i believe players should not encourage this.
So your sub game doesn't have a lotttery based loot table? You don't have to grind rare bosses in raids and dungeons as a time sink hoping you get the rare drop? You can go into a raid/dungeon and get your best gear without that? You don't have to grind event tokens like in RIFT where you open lottery based items for a chance at the cool collectible?
This event doesn't required you to purchase lottery boxes (do you even play this game?). You can, but there are items for sale in the game shop for gems. You don't have to gamble for those any more than you must gamble for them in TSW.
And really? The sub people are going to mock cash shop gamers over $20? Where is their kneejerk, "you can't afford $15/mo? I spend that on beer in one night." argument? The double standards are hilarious and show when people actually have more of an agenda to push and less of a concern about their game play.
So you are trying to convence us that a random loot table is the same as buying keys from the cash shop?
As much as you're trying to convince the world that "your game" has no RNG based time sink which, in a sub game, directly equates to more $$$.... like in T$W (plus it has a cash shop - pot meet kettle).
You are making stuff up now. Where do you see that I said this? Loot tables =/= lottery where real cash can and has been spent.
So YOU are trying to say loot tables are the same as buying keys with cash or gems?
From where are people getting this 'most have saved loads of gems / gold'? some statistic or data you have access to? there is nothing more flawed than thinking that you = entire game population. Yes you people spent 0 cash because you had loads of gold and gems saved up but how are you so certain that is how the majority is?
I just recently read a topic on official forums about 'how much gold you have' and the most replies said around 10 to 20 gold.
Only naive people or hardcore GW2 supporters would deny that this event wasn't a money grab. i am sure Anet has more accurate data here regarding how much gold an average players has than anyone on these forums claiming 'most' or 'majority'.
So how much are you spending a year on your sub game? Do you rant and rave "over their" about their micro-transaction cash grabs and the xpac costs in addition to the sub fees? Oh, the naive subscription gamers and their self-righteous rationalizations that their money spent is justified.
Those other games do not have ingame lottery (gambling) systems, or gold buying.
So you cant buy gold for subscription based games??? well you can quite simply http://www.mmolive.com/ there hundred of differen sites. As for ingame gambling well thats another bust ive been in many game where players will start a little casino with the /roll command /roll 100 if you get above 60 double your cash above 90 is triple or along those lines. Ive seen this being dont in many games and usualy the Devs dont usualy mind, although games like WoW maple story and the other games designed for younger players will usualy ask you to stop but games for teenages and older players such as Everquest and rift they dont mind alteast ive nbever seen anyone of the Devs have a problem with it because teenages and adult are the fanbase.
All that stuff you detailed here is against the terms and conditions of other mmos like WoW, RIFT, Swtor, and TSW. In fact these things are bannable. In GW2 Nexom/NCsoft/Anet supports, encourages and sells.
Yes they are agaist the terms and condition however i know alot of people who purchased ingame currency from game site and not a single one of them has been banned or knwos anyone who has (even ive done it once to buy a somone a christmas present in Everquest once which was a mount). As for the lotery thing ive havant had an issue with it at all aslong as it not in a gme targeting children, Ive done the lottery thing in Everquest for a long period of time aswell as a billion other poeple for years, ive done it in rift for 3 months without any problems.
From where are people getting this 'most have saved loads of gems / gold'? some statistic or data you have access to? there is nothing more flawed than thinking that you = entire game population. Yes you people spent 0 cash because you had loads of gold and gems saved up but how are you so certain that is how the majority is?
I just recently read a topic on official forums about 'how much gold you have' and the most replies said around 10 to 20 gold.
Only naive people or hardcore GW2 supporters would deny that this event wasn't a money grab. i am sure Anet has more accurate data here regarding how much gold an average players has than anyone on these forums claiming 'most' or 'majority'.
So how much are you spending a year on your sub game? Do you rant and rave "over their" about their micro-transaction cash grabs and the xpac costs in addition to the sub fees? Oh, the naive subscription gamers and their self-righteous rationalizations that their money spent is justified.
Those other games do not have ingame lottery (gambling) systems, or gold buying.
So you cant buy gold for subscription based games??? well you can quite simply http://www.mmolive.com/ there hundred of differen sites. As for ingame gambling well thats another bust ive been in many game where players will start a little casino with the /roll command /roll 100 if you get above 60 double your cash above 90 is triple or along those lines. Ive seen this being dont in many games and usualy the Devs dont usualy mind, although games like WoW maple story and the other games designed for younger players will usualy ask you to stop but games for teenages and older players such as Everquest and rift they dont mind alteast ive nbever seen anyone of the Devs have a problem with it because teenages and adult are the fanbase.
All that stuff you detailed here is against the terms and conditions of other mmos like WoW, RIFT, Swtor, and TSW. In fact these things are bannable. In GW2 Nexom/NCsoft/Anet supports, encourages and sells.
Yes they are agaist the terms and condition however i know alot of people who purchased ingame currency from game site and not a single one of them has been banned or knwos anyone who has (even ive done it once to buy a somone a christmas present in Everquest once which was a mount). As for the lotery thing ive havant had an issue with it at all aslong as it not in a gme targeting children, Ive done the lottery thing in Everquest for a long period of time aswell as a billion other poeple for years, ive done it in rift for 3 months without any problems.
This is the thing the game is rated teen. Whether or not the game is trageted towards children can be debated. The fact is that this game GW2, a game with gambling was made accessable and rated for kids.
From where are people getting this 'most have saved loads of gems / gold'? some statistic or data you have access to? there is nothing more flawed than thinking that you = entire game population. Yes you people spent 0 cash because you had loads of gold and gems saved up but how are you so certain that is how the majority is?
I just recently read a topic on official forums about 'how much gold you have' and the most replies said around 10 to 20 gold.
Only naive people or hardcore GW2 supporters would deny that this event wasn't a money grab. i am sure Anet has more accurate data here regarding how much gold an average players has than anyone on these forums claiming 'most' or 'majority'.
So how much are you spending a year on your sub game? Do you rant and rave "over their" about their micro-transaction cash grabs and the xpac costs in addition to the sub fees? Oh, the naive subscription gamers and their self-righteous rationalizations that their money spent is justified.
Those other games do not have ingame lottery (gambling) systems, or gold buying.
So you cant buy gold for subscription based games??? well you can quite simply http://www.mmolive.com/ there hundred of differen sites. As for ingame gambling well thats another bust ive been in many game where players will start a little casino with the /roll command /roll 100 if you get above 60 double your cash above 90 is triple or along those lines. Ive seen this being dont in many games and usualy the Devs dont usualy mind, although games like WoW maple story and the other games designed for younger players will usualy ask you to stop but games for teenages and older players such as Everquest and rift they dont mind alteast ive nbever seen anyone of the Devs have a problem with it because teenages and adult are the fanbase.
All that stuff you detailed here is against the terms and conditions of other mmos like WoW, RIFT, Swtor, and TSW. In fact these things are bannable. In GW2 Nexom/NCsoft/Anet supports, encourages and sells.
It is bannable offense with A.Net also - get a clue.
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No one is screwing you on the time factor. With a join date of February and nearly 5000 post you have more then enough time to waste.
From where are people getting this 'most have saved loads of gems / gold'? some statistic or data you have access to? there is nothing more flawed than thinking that you = entire game population. Yes you people spent 0 cash because you had loads of gold and gems saved up but how are you so certain that is how the majority is?
I just recently read a topic on official forums about 'how much gold you have' and the most replies said around 10 to 20 gold.
Only naive people or hardcore GW2 supporters would deny that this event wasn't a money grab. i am sure Anet has more accurate data here regarding how much gold an average players has than anyone on these forums claiming 'most' or 'majority'.
Those gems that people have a lot of are just like real money, atleast in the GW2 eorld. In fact, real money is converted to gems.
There you go again. If there is an issue brought up about GW2, your response of "It's like this in every game." is getting tired, and misleading. No, no it's not.
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Its actually interesting seeing people up in arms about this. It is a money trap, for those that fall for it. But to me it's no different than the money trap that is paying a sub....
I refuse to support RNG based cash shop items, a big mistake from Anet as far as I'm concerned, they'll get absolutely 0 from me.
Those other games do not have ingame lottery (gambling) systems, or gold buying.
No, instead you have to pay 15 dollars a month. They both have money traps, just in different ways.
Those other games cash shops do not involve ingame lottery (gambling) systems, or gold buying, nor do they encourage either. In fact they are discouraged to the point of banning.
edit - to your other post. A drop from a mob has nothing to do with buying lotto tickets from a cash shop.
Over the year for a sub, I'll pay about 156 dollars or about 46c a day.
When i pay for a sub game i know what i am getting. It is not same as throwing money for lottery and that is what this whole event is.
I could acre less how and where people spend money but for me this is more of an ethical issue than anything else. I do not condone such activities and i believe players should not encourage this.
Some poeple have there lengendairy which if u farmed everything else you would still need to pay 120g for merchant items. As for myself i have 60g in my bank atm and i dont farm a great deal, although i am working towards my legendary.
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So you cant buy gold for subscription based games??? well you can quite simply http://www.mmolive.com/ there hundred of differen sites. As for ingame gambling well thats another bust ive been in many game where players will start a little casino with the /roll command /roll 100 if you get above 60 double your cash above 90 is triple or along those lines. Ive seen this being dont in many games and usualy the Devs dont usualy mind, although games like WoW maple story and the other games designed for younger players will usualy ask you to stop but games for teenages and older players such as Everquest and rift they dont mind alteast ive nbever seen anyone of the Devs have a problem with it because teenages and adult are the fanbase.
So you are trying to convence us that a random loot table is the same as buying keys from the cash shop?
Same can be said for a buying a lottery ticket down at the newsagency. You know the chances of getting the money is slim but you still put some money down on it cause there a chance. The same thing here put down the money your confortable putting down and thats it.
Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.
All that stuff you detailed here is against the terms and conditions of other mmos like WoW, RIFT, Swtor, and TSW. In fact these things are bannable. In GW2 Nexom/NCsoft/Anet supports, encourages and sells.
Who is mocking anyone? didn't you just understand when i said this more of an ethical issue? and how is grinding dungeons for a rare drop = spending real life cash for lottery system? my whole point is about encouraging activities which involves real life cash that also ina game which is all about vanity because stats are meaningless. And by encouraging i don't simply mean buy something off the cash shop but playing a lottery system.
And yes i play the game. What else is '2% current rate of getting items from BLC with a key that costs almost a pound' is then if not lottery?
That is why i brought up the point that do you people have any data to prove that 'majority or most' of the players are sitting on heap of golds that they dont need to spend real life cash for these items? because if you are not then cash is the only way to get it. And i think since ANET knows how much gold an average player has they decided to make it avilable only through chests or TP instead of making it avilable through various halloween events.
And this is working because people are already spending obscene amount of gold / gem on keys.
IMHO any game that came out after WoW (including WoW) are a joke for serious gamers. They are basic and tedious and everything egt handed to you on a silver platter you dont need to work towards anything, you just mindlessly follow the rails till you hit the end then yopu simply burn up time waiting for those rails to be extended in somcases a rediculous amount of time waiting cause develepers make content far to easy and they get completed in a couple weeks. I personaly miss pre WoW games because they had so much more depth to them and i feel sry for those gamers who started out played WoW or later games.
You are making stuff up now. Where do you see that I said this? Loot tables =/= lottery where real cash can and has been spent.
So YOU are trying to say loot tables are the same as buying keys with cash or gems?
Yes they are agaist the terms and condition however i know alot of people who purchased ingame currency from game site and not a single one of them has been banned or knwos anyone who has (even ive done it once to buy a somone a christmas present in Everquest once which was a mount). As for the lotery thing ive havant had an issue with it at all aslong as it not in a gme targeting children, Ive done the lottery thing in Everquest for a long period of time aswell as a billion other poeple for years, ive done it in rift for 3 months without any problems.
No kidding. What kind of person would actually blow cash on this stuff?
This is the thing the game is rated teen. Whether or not the game is trageted towards children can be debated. The fact is that this game GW2, a game with gambling was made accessable and rated for kids.
It is bannable offense with A.Net also - get a clue.