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I agree, nor would pointing out the lag, AH problems, or overflow issues be bashing. Those are legitimate criticisms.
it becomes bashing when someone makes those criticisms and then says the equivalent of "therefore gw2 is a horrible game."
Are you team Azeroth, team Tyria, or team Jacob?
Yeah people bash any game that theyre not a fan of, but theres one big difference I see between the GW2 bashing and the bashing of other games.
Take WoW for example. People bash it for things they dont like about the game that are true. Such as not liking raiding, when we all know raiding is a big factor in the game. Id say that sprobably the #1 thing I see constantly that people complain about. The repetetive raiding. Either that or the large number of kill X / collect X quests.
Then you have GW2 where yes you have the people who genuinely dont like an actual feature / aspect of the game because of the way it is (such as the way DEs work), just like people dont like raiding in WOW, but for every 1 of those threads I see, youve got 1 or 2 full of people flat out lying about features / mechanics / problems with the game, or who havent made it past the starter content to have any clue what the rest is like.
A few of the GW2 lies Ive seen on this very forum:
- You have to turn with RMB. Wrong, you can also keyboard turn
- Everyone is lagging all the time. Havent experienced this myself other then a few minor hiccups that lasted a couple of minutes over the past week. Ive moved around to 4 different servers ranging from low to full, and havent had this issue on any of them. People also tend to confuse lag vs low FPS because their system cant handle their setting.
- The Cash Shop is P2W. Most of what is in the cash shop is earnable in game in various ways. The stuff that isnt, is stuff like character sots and bank space. Not sure how those things are "winning". Theyre also available without paying if you invest the time to earn gold to exchange for gems.
- There is no progression / point to levels. Unlocked Utility skill slots, unlocking of 3 different tiers of Utility Skills, Unlocking elite skills, direct stat boosts from Trait points as well as the additional effects you get every 5 & 10 points in each of the 3 tiers, increased number of stats on gear and the various upgrades that can be added to gear, stronger consumable buffs.... just to name a few.
- Everything in the game is a zerg fest. Im actually playing now on the only low-medium pop server left, Kaineng. Typically running events with 5-10 people as I come across them. Maybe if you dont like the zerg, try switching to a lower pop server or stay away from the roaming zerg?
- You can win the game by standing still and spamming your 1 key. That may work for a lot of the starting zone, but if you actually play like that past that zone or in PvP youre going to die, a lot.
- The bank is tiny and theyre milking players for money to get bag space. Bank actually starts off with about 300+ slots. Most games dont even give you half that in bank space.
- You can just dodge constantly and be invincible. Reality is you can only dodge twice, then you have to wait for it to rebuild Energy.
- Dodging is only for getting out of AoEs. Its actually effective vs single target attacks too.
I could go on, but you kind of see the point. Its not matters of people opinions and what they do or dont like. Its simply incorrect information, or the result of playing a certain way instead of changing what you do (like following the zerg, then complaining its a zerg fest), not matters of opinion. Yet youll see 1 troll post such things, then every other troll believes its true and suddenly its a huge issue and they all post about it because theyre generally too ignorant of whats actually in the game to realize that the 1st person had no clue what theyre talking about either.
I think part of the problem is, any negative comments about GW2 are considered "Bashing." It is almost "sacrilege" to even post about your expirience if it isn't one hundred percent positive. If you say, I had trouble logging into the game, or I got hacked; because that was your expirience, you get attacked for "Bashing"
I just recently started playing TSW and posted about my first impressions in the "Didn't expect it... but it's seriously good" thread. My post is on page 5.
In that post I pointed out a couple negitives I found in TSW as well as some positives. Had I done the same thing for GW2, I would have been accused of Bashing the game because my post wasn't one hundred percent positive.
Constructive criticism is not bashing. Someone posting about there expirience, even the (negative expriences) while playing the game is not bashing. Someone saying five nice things about the GW2 and one negative is not bashing.
Anyway, In a few months I will pick up GW2, (I don't like buying games at release becuase of launch problems that happen with most games) then I will judge the game for myself and I hope I enjoy it. It looks like a lot of positive aspects to the game.
Agreed. I have my issues with GW2 but so far it is one of the best themepark games I have played since original WoW.
The game does have issues: the sporadically working AH, the repair costs in WvW, hell, even some DEs are bugged but the game is amazingly fun.
All of my posts are either intelligent, thought provoking, funny, satirical, sarcastic or intentionally disrespectful. Take your pick.
I get banned in the forums for games I love, so lets see if I do better in the forums for games I hate.
I enjoy the serenity of not caring what your opinion is.
I don't hate much, but I hate Apple© with a passion. If Steve Jobs was alive, I would punch him in the face.
Bro, my block list crashes this site every time i sign on. Yes, it's that massive.
Jade Quarry. I will say the mmorpg crew does kick ass in WvW
Agreed.
I'm sure it is if that is how you use it. It is a tool. But what is the point of joining a forum if you are just going to block anyone you disagree with? I guess some people can be annoying and deserving, but to use it like the the previous poster said he did is just silly.
I have maybe 8 people on block, and I think they are all spammers.
True, I'm on JQ too. I can't get into WvW with the repair costs. The higher lvl you are, the higher they get. I died 3 times at lvl 51 and had to pay over 3s for repairs, so I stopped WvW. sPvP owns though. I got placed into a match against 2 players, so it was 1vs2, I kept running from point to point killing one of them and running away to the next, I had a blast. They won at the end but there was 2 of them. lol
it was a joke. I rarely put anyone on the list.
I actually enjoy a good debate, even if the person does a little name calling, as long as there is a point being made.
To be honest these forums are actually pretty good. Does it have diverse and strong opinions that clash with one another? sure. Does it have gamers who actively root for a game to fail? unfortunately.
But overall not a bad community as far as forums go.
I think the main reason people bash other games is because their game got bashed religously by the same people saying "why the Hate"
Not trying to be offensive or anything just speaking the truth. I'm a fan of TSW and i had GW2 fanboys Bashing TSW since the day it came out. Do i feel the need to try and flame the game, a little, but i have some pride in myself. Thus cannot be said for other people on this Forum. its not a attack, Its a Domino Counter attack that has happened back and forth since there was more than one MMO on the market.
Because i can.
I'm Hopeful For Every Game, Until the Fan Boys Attack My Games. Then the Knives Come Out.
Logic every gamers worst enemy.
Best MMO experiences : EQ(PvE), DAoC(PvP), WoW(total package) LOTRO (worldfeel) GW2 (Artstyle and animations and worlddesign) SWTOR (Story immersion) TSW (story) ESO (character advancement)
Bashing just for the sake of bashing is pretty lame.
Pointing out problems and issues (less than TEN TIMES!!!) is ok. Most of the complaints would be made on the official forums instead of these forums, but...well....yeah.....
I think that is a good point, I wouldn't apply it to everyone who "Bashes" a game, because one persons "Bash" is another persons "Truth" and vice Versa. But I think there is truth to your statement.
So true.
What I find even more absurd , that its completely pointless rage.
Topics that start with "GW2 is another dissapointment" on the end boil down that you must keep right mouse pressed to turn.Or posts that complain about grind for optional things in end game pve.Or server problems , in what is one of biggest MMO launches in decade...
I dont even check these forums anymore.
Its either Blizzard payed posters , or people that are trully new to MMO or purchased GW2 without any knowledge what they are buying. or what is even sadder - SWTOR fans - going for some crazy paranoid vengance.
Game is amazing , and just the fact that Anet had to stop selling it to prevent total system meltdown, proves everything.
ROFl, what?
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
You're short response made me laugh...lol
Speak for yourself, its a good game, but not a great game.
Its amazing that people can be so naive , in this day and age.
Its called viral marketing, look up for job description. Chanses are that even your local internet companies have open positions.
No shortage of bad bad people on the internet it's true. Who knows their motives, revenge for people pointing out the sheer fail of their favorite title might be one who knows. This game gave me the feeling i had in WoW the very first time i ever played an MMO. That feeling is back and I'm glad I've waited for that feeling to return in many a title and it never did until now.
These people who want games to fail should be punished I agree.
What I saw so far is that many people came from other games like SWTOR or tried games like Terra, TSW (like me trying both before) and other games so they had an opinion upon these games as also about GW2.
The problem is that if they say anything negative in the forums of these other games while something positive about GW2 or make a comparison over there, they are immediately marked as "GW2 Fans that are going to other games forums to bash them", which is actually not the case.
My suggestion:
- if you tested a game and you still care for it, stay there and give constructive critisism about your likes/dislikes about it.
- if you tested a game and don't care about it, give a appropriate and constructive review about your likes/dislikes and move on to the forums of a game you like.
Going back to forums of other games only because some of their fans are spreading false rumours upon the game you like or creating several threads filled with missinformation upon things "they know", even they never tested the game themselves, will lead only to the disaster we had in this forum 24/7 for the past few months and between the betas.
I tested terra, disliked it, never posted in their forums and moved on.
I tested TSW, I partially liked it, gave my constructive review in their forums, one of their Devs thank me for it and I left again never looking back.
Maybe I participated sometimes in threads that popped up of being under the general forum or maybe even one thread in these games but that's it.
Don't see a point on why I should waste my time in the other forums when I can share infos with the people here that are actually playing the game at the times I can't be in the game.
Who doesn't know about viral marketing? I'm just astounded to hear someone say this site is infested with Blizz employess. One major focus presented by the community has always been an anti WOW/wow-esque mantra here at MMORPG.com. Not to mention saying the site is infested by MMO newbies, those people are still optimistic about the genre. Sorry I think you're way off track there.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Sure. Is like wife saying to her husband that he has problems (eg. is drinking too much).
Why the hell is she bashing him, poor guy.
Well maybe because she is not happy with her marriage. Does that means that she doesnt like her husband?
So, let me bash this game a little more: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/363671/page/1 like a real hater.
And guys please : "Leave Britney alone!"