To all those who doubted...all I have to say is....we told ya so.
All eight character storylines up to level 50 will be accessible with restricted access to new content and advanced features. Some of these restrictions can be removed by "purchasing" access with Cartel Coins, the new virtual currency to be introduced in the fall. Unlimited access including higher-level content and new features will be available through subscription options.
"Players want flexibility and choice. The subscription-only model presented a major barrier for a lot of people who wanted to become part of The Old Republic universe," said GM of BioWare Matthew Bromberg in a press release.
Beginning in the fall, players will have free-to-play and subscription options. Players can purchase on going subscriptions or play advanced content by redeeming Game Time Cards. Subscribers will receive monthly allowances of Cartel Coins, which can be used to purchase in-game items, gear, and convenience features.
"Since launch, we've been listening to feedback from our fans and adding new content and refining The Old Republic at a breakneck pace," said executive producer Jeff Hickman. "We believe we are in a position to help improve the service even more, not only by continuing to add new content, but also by expanding the game to many more Star Wars fans, increasing the populations on worlds and the vibrancy of the community."
CALLED IT!!
two weeks after SWTOR was released (approx when I canceled my sub) I told my friends "this game will be F2P by the end of the year!"
P.S. In retrospect, I guess many of us knew this would happen... more of a question of "when" rather than "if"
I really don't understand why this gets people excited. A crappy game is still crappy regardless of the pay model. If $15/month is a make-or-break thing for you, and you are willing to play a much worse game than (fill in the blanks with a sub based mmo), you have bigger fish to fry. SWTOR sucks whether it costs $15 a month, $5 a month, free, or even if they pay you to play. It will still fail.
Not even a full year and SWTOR is already going FTP. Oh well, maybe that'll teach them to actually put more effort in their MMOs. Highly doubt it though.
You know what's fun about chaos? I do, but I won't tell.
Wait... the F2P people have to BUY PARTS of content updates when the new model hits? That is a very, very, very, very low blow from BW/EA ... but also hilarious.
And where are the players that WANT SWToR to go F2P that they talk of? Has anyone seen those? Where do those two get that from?
Honestly, this reads like one of those comedy soaps where everyone has these goofy misunderstandings with everyone else all the time.
Ew. I'm okay with everything there except the Operations being fully restricted. That's vile. Should just have it limited like everything else. I'm only interested in the story missions personally, but that's going to piss a lot of people off.
"Forums aren't for intelligent discussion; they're for blow-hards with unwavering opinions."
It will just give massive boost to population for few months and that's it.
Most new or returning players will leave it, cause it is just bad game imo.
Freemium or p2p won't change much in this matter. Oh wait...it will add cash shop SoE style since by looking at FAQ it is closest existing model they will follow. Something between SoE and Lotro.
and that matters how exactly? it's similar to the model LOTRO is doing, which proves once again they can't seem to come out from the past.
Just because they still have a sub for full access doesn't mean that people weren't right about the game losing too many players and it doesn't mean that people were wrong about how bad the game was designed.
I really don't understand why this gets people excited. A crappy game is still crappy regardless of the pay model. If $15/month is a make-or-break thing for you, and you are willing to play a much worse game than (fill in the blanks with a sub based mmo), you have bigger fish to fry. SWTOR sucks whether it costs $15 a month, $5 a month, free, or even if they pay you to play. It will still fail.
There is no debate that the game will be "better quality" or anything like that because of f2p. But many folks who didn't care will at least play it and some that didn't want to pay for it might actually enjoy it, its how the f2p model works reel em in with a huge net and hope a few pay.
I really don't understand why this gets people excited. A crappy game is still crappy regardless of the pay model. If $15/month is a make-or-break thing for you, and you are willing to play a much worse game than (fill in the blanks with a sub based mmo), you have bigger fish to fry. SWTOR sucks whether it costs $15 a month, $5 a month, free, or even if they pay you to play. It will still fail.
Too bad about this whole thing. Bioware with egg on it's face, all those people losing their jobs, and a blockbuster MMO going F2P. They would have been better served re-skinning SWG and making it F2P w/ a cash shop imo. Just so damn dissapointing.
Lots of yummy yummy rage on the SWTOR forums over this, one of the greatest IPs in the world combined with one of the greatest storytelling makers in Bioware and it gets screwed up and now this.
Lots of yummy yummy rage on the SWTOR forums over this, one of the greatest IPs in the world combined with one of the greatest storytelling makers in Bioware and it gets screwed up and now this.
*grabs popcorn and rushes over to see*
"Forums aren't for intelligent discussion; they're for blow-hards with unwavering opinions."
Originally posted by BrightestDay "Youve never heard of Star Wars: The Old Republic? Its the MMO that made the Sub to F2P run in less than 12 parsecs."
Lots of yummy yummy rage on the SWTOR forums over this, one of the greatest IPs in the world combined with one of the greatest storytelling makers in Bioware and it gets screwed up and now this.
*grabs popcorn and rushes over to see*
Just scanned the official forum and they are acting like they found their dogs in the sack with their girlfriends.
Lots of yummy yummy rage on the SWTOR forums over this, one of the greatest IPs in the world combined with one of the greatest storytelling makers in Bioware and it gets screwed up and now this.
*grabs popcorn and rushes over to see*
Just scanned the official forum and they are acting like they found their dogs in the sack with their girlfriends.
You are lucky I was not drinking my juice when I read this.
I knew it was going to happen but I would be lying if I said they would do it before the game was even out a year. Holy hell...
Now I really wonder what their subs are at currently
1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.
2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.
3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.
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CALLED IT!!
two weeks after SWTOR was released (approx when I canceled my sub) I told my friends "this game will be F2P by the end of the year!"
P.S. In retrospect, I guess many of us knew this would happen... more of a question of "when" rather than "if"
I really don't understand why this gets people excited. A crappy game is still crappy regardless of the pay model. If $15/month is a make-or-break thing for you, and you are willing to play a much worse game than (fill in the blanks with a sub based mmo), you have bigger fish to fry. SWTOR sucks whether it costs $15 a month, $5 a month, free, or even if they pay you to play. It will still fail.
Sad isn't it?
Not even a full year and SWTOR is already going FTP. Oh well, maybe that'll teach them to actually put more effort in their MMOs. Highly doubt it though.
You know what's fun about chaos? I do, but I won't tell.
hmmm seems pretty....limited
Wait... the F2P people have to BUY PARTS of content updates when the new model hits? That is a very, very, very, very low blow from BW/EA ... but also hilarious.
And where are the players that WANT SWToR to go F2P that they talk of? Has anyone seen those? Where do those two get that from?
Honestly, this reads like one of those comedy soaps where everyone has these goofy misunderstandings with everyone else all the time.
Ew. I'm okay with everything there except the Operations being fully restricted. That's vile. Should just have it limited like everything else. I'm only interested in the story missions personally, but that's going to piss a lot of people off.
"Forums aren't for intelligent discussion; they're for blow-hards with unwavering opinions."
Doubt it will save Swtor long-term.
It will just give massive boost to population for few months and that's it.
Most new or returning players will leave it, cause it is just bad game imo.
Freemium or p2p won't change much in this matter. Oh wait...it will add cash shop SoE style since by looking at FAQ it is closest existing model they will follow. Something between SoE and Lotro.
and that matters how exactly? it's similar to the model LOTRO is doing, which proves once again they can't seem to come out from the past.
Just because they still have a sub for full access doesn't mean that people weren't right about the game losing too many players and it doesn't mean that people were wrong about how bad the game was designed.
There is no debate that the game will be "better quality" or anything like that because of f2p. But many folks who didn't care will at least play it and some that didn't want to pay for it might actually enjoy it, its how the f2p model works reel em in with a huge net and hope a few pay.
agreed
Rift beat Swtor
I saw a thread like this awhile back.
Character Creation....limited access. Sadly in a way it was always limited access. The was one of the disapointments of the game.
Too bad about this whole thing. Bioware with egg on it's face, all those people losing their jobs, and a blockbuster MMO going F2P. They would have been better served re-skinning SWG and making it F2P w/ a cash shop imo. Just so damn dissapointing.
Lots of yummy yummy rage on the SWTOR forums over this, one of the greatest IPs in the world combined with one of the greatest storytelling makers in Bioware and it gets screwed up and now this.
Star Wars Galaxies relaunch by December 2012
*grabs popcorn and rushes over to see*
"Forums aren't for intelligent discussion; they're for blow-hards with unwavering opinions."
http://www.swtor.com/free
Looks good IMO. Haters gonna' hate, but this is where the market is. Look at League of Legends.
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LOL at this. incredible how a game with so much money involved and with a strong lore component dont will be F2P less than 1 year.
I lol'd
Still won't play this garbage of a game. Free is still too much.
Ironically, I would actually pay for a book that told the truth about how this happened. When is Erickson getting fired?
Survivor of the great MMORPG Famine of 2011
Where does it say they are limiting time per week? I looked at the chart and didn't see anything about that.
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Just scanned the official forum and they are acting like they found their dogs in the sack with their girlfriends.
You are lucky I was not drinking my juice when I read this.
Wow
I knew it was going to happen but I would be lying if I said they would do it before the game was even out a year. Holy hell...
Now I really wonder what their subs are at currently
1. For god's sake mmo gamers, enough with the analogies. They're unnecessary and your comparisons are terrible, dissimilar, and illogical.
2. To posters feeling the need to state how f2p really isn't f2p: Players understand the concept. You aren't privy to some secret the rest are missing. You're embarrassing yourself.
3. Yes, Cpt. Obvious, we're not industry experts. Now run along and let the big people use the forums for their purpose.
Hopefully we will find out soon, must be bad with this happening....
Star Wars Galaxies relaunch by December 2012