Which I find very hard to believe, while some might find it very fun, and enjoy it a great deal. That don't mean the rest of us will.
That said, I would not touch GW2 with a 5,000,000ft pole. Or shove any more money into NC Soft's pockets. I don't like them. Yes, I know they did not make the game. But they are making money from it.
Therefore, they can just count me out.
I'm sure you will be missed, and that the game just won't be the same without you.
While you are evidently being sarcastic, it would be sad if a person who is being able to follow their principles, over their own short-term possible enjoyment, wouldn't be missed. We need more persons like him who say no when companies go too far. Otherwise we'll keep seeing more features like RMAH was in Diablo III, in the future.
for me that is just stupid. dont play a game that i love just because i dont like company?
thing is, even if GW2 came out right now with all of it's unfinished content, it would STILL win GOTY easily. it's too innnovative. it would be like giving the Nobel to Obama...just being different amidst mediocrity and upholding a good philosophy, when being different is frightening, is worth the award.
Game of the Year award means nothing due to SWTOR receiving it from Massively last year.
Which I find very hard to believe, while some might find it very fun, and enjoy it a great deal. That don't mean the rest of us will.
That said, I would not touch GW2 with a 5,000,000ft pole. Or shove any more money into NC Soft's pockets. I don't like them. Yes, I know they did not make the game. But they are making money from it.
Therefore, they can just count me out.
I'm sure you will be missed, and that the game just won't be the same without you.
While you are evidently being sarcastic, it would be sad if a person who is being able to follow their principles, over their own short-term possible enjoyment, wouldn't be missed. We need more persons like him who say no when companies go too far. Otherwise we'll keep seeing more features like RMAH was in Diablo III, in the future.
for me that is just stupid. dont play a game that i love just because i dont like company?
Stupid? It is heroic really. Stand your ground for what you believe in, even if it hurts you.
Edit: Then again, there is fine line between being heroic and just stupid, or so I've heard XD.
So let me get this straight. Your overall opinion on games is that regardless of the game devs actual perpenceity in execution and qualityof the said product, its all for nought if that publisher is deemed more or less evil!
You may have had a point if it were the case for instance that EA were involved but here you're exhibiting signs of severe silly.
This is not a TSW EA situation. NCsoft is the owner of Anet, and they producer of GW2. Many of us a hesitant when it comes to Korean companies.
and why does it really matter if it is? if TSW is a good game and people enjoy it who cares if it is funcom and EA?
well it's not Funcom and EA. It's Funcom. GW2 is NCsoft is owned and funded by NCsoft a Korean game maker. Maybe you misunderstood me.
OP can say I hate NCsoft so I wont play GW2. The money goes straight to NCsoft.
Can't compare a company that makes a bad game to a company that is funded by a company that made a bad game. NCsoft has no influence on Arenanets development of the game. Are any of their staff working with arenanet to incorporate ideas to the game? no.
NCsoft owns Anet. Anet wont see a penny until NCsoft gives it to them. It's NCsofts game.
You have this backwards my good sir/madam. Well I wouldn't say its quite "backwards"...They see the money at the same time. Arenanet is not 'owned' by Ncsoft nor do they ever plan to sell their souls to the devil, as it were.
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So you are saying that term "acquisition of ArenaNet" in http://www.arena.net/press/ncsoft_acquires_arenanet, did not refer to NCSoft explicitely buying Arenanet? I was under the impression that it is precisely what "acquisition" is supposed to mean.
So let me get this straight. Your overall opinion on games is that regardless of the game devs actual perpenceity in execution and qualityof the said product, its all for nought if that publisher is deemed more or less evil!
You may have had a point if it were the case for instance that EA were involved but here you're exhibiting signs of severe silly.
This is not a TSW EA situation. NCsoft is the owner of Anet, and they producer of GW2. Many of us a hesitant when it comes to Korean companies.
and why does it really matter if it is? if TSW is a good game and people enjoy it who cares if it is funcom and EA?
Too few people care. Before buying a product, it ought to be the concern of every consumer to know who produced the product and what they are supporting if they decide to buy the product.
I agree with 234. Befor I buy any game, regardless of the type of game, I always check the publishing company (and to a certain point, the degree of freedom the dev company has in relation to the publishing company). Best example is EA, worst exmple, is NCsoft.
EA Games corporate policy and business model has severely effected the games their subsidiaries develop, to a point that many people now refuse to buy EA products (me for example).
NCsoft has produced both great games and some serious lemons; from GW to Tabula Rasa. As of right now, I'm half and half on NCsoft. I don't buy all their games, but I do buy some.
Just as with EA Games, I don't buy certain products from other companies due to the policies of their parent companies. I know I may come across as a hater, but I'm not. As a consumer I make the choices that I feel are best for me. My role as the consumer in our capitalist (free market) structure is to "judge" the products and their companies by what I buy and what I do not buy. I am not trying to take some "high road" or anything, just merely casting my judgement (consumer review) on products that are out there.
On a side note, I was reading up on the founders of GW2 and the relationship between Anet and NCsoft. It does appear that Anet does have a large degree of freedom to operate as it wills. Anet does not answer to NCsoft Korea, but to NC West, which happens to be headquarted in Seattle Washington, right next to Bellevue. Sounds more like they created a corporate branch just satisfy Anet devs than to force their hand on them. As for the Anet devs, read up on their history... I now understand why WOW essentially sucks and why Diablo 3 is not what it used to be... but that's a different argument lol.
Which I find very hard to believe, while some might find it very fun, and enjoy it a great deal. That don't mean the rest of us will.
That said, I would not touch GW2 with a 5,000,000ft pole. Or shove any more money into NC Soft's pockets. I don't like them. Yes, I know they did not make the game. But they are making money from it.
Therefore, they can just count me out.
Well that was some info i realy needed to know thank you that was total waste reading your dislike for GW2 lol.
Funny how some feel the need to make a topic to tell others they wont playing the game.
Hope you find your game and leave us alone
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Which I find very hard to believe, while some might find it very fun, and enjoy it a great deal. That don't mean the rest of us will.
That said, I would not touch GW2 with a 5,000,000ft pole. Or shove any more money into NC Soft's pockets. I don't like them. Yes, I know they did not make the game. But they are making money from it.
Therefore, they can just count me out.
Well that was some info i realy needed to know thank you that was total waste reading your dislike for GW2 lol.
Funny how some feel the need to make a topic to tell others they wont playing the game.
Hope you find your game and leave us alone
StrangeEyes, I have a feeling we'll be seeing Copenhagen soon enough in GW2. Most GW fans have already pre purchased GW2. Those who liked GW and like GW2 either have already pre purchased GW2 or will buy GW2 upon release. Those who are on the fence and wanting to wait and see how the game pans out will prob buy the game in 1-3 months after release. The skeptical ones will wait 3-6 months. The haters will eventually come into the fold 6 months to one year, or after the first expansion and they realize they're the only ones not playing GW2 and missing out on all the fun.
Before Trolls jump on me, this is just half satirical humor and half a true statement; it is not intended to be taken literally or too serious lol.
Which I find very hard to believe, while some might find it very fun, and enjoy it a great deal. That don't mean the rest of us will.
That said, I would not touch GW2 with a 5,000,000ft pole. Or shove any more money into NC Soft's pockets. I don't like them. Yes, I know they did not make the game. But they are making money from it.
Therefore, they can just count me out.
Oh, I'm sure they will miss you...
GW2 for first is made by ANet and only published by NCSoft.. So NCSoft only has to help ANet get those copies to the stores and help them with marketing and whatever it takes to get that game out of ANets dev studio and give it to the world... Figuratively speaking
So what if they're making money out of the game? They're the publishers and they should make the money out of it... There's nothing wrong with making money as long as it's a good product which people would buy.
I always kinda giggle when I see posts like this on forums ...
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So let me get this straight. Your overall opinion on games is that regardless of the game devs actual perpenceity in execution and qualityof the said product, its all for nought if that publisher is deemed more or less evil!
You may have had a point if it were the case for instance that EA were involved but here you're exhibiting signs of severe silly.
This is not a TSW EA situation. NCsoft is the owner of Anet, and they producer of GW2. Many of us a hesitant when it comes to Korean companies.
and why does it really matter if it is? if TSW is a good game and people enjoy it who cares if it is funcom and EA?
Too few people care. Before buying a product, it ought to be the concern of every consumer to know who produced the product and what they are supporting if they decide to buy the product.
I agree with 234. Befor I buy any game, regardless of the type of game, I always check the publishing company (and to a certain point, the degree of freedom the dev company has in relation to the publishing company). Best example is EA, worst exmple, is NCsoft.
EA Games corporate policy and business model has severely effected the games their subsidiaries develop, to a point that many people now refuse to buy EA products (me for example).
Funcom pays EA for moving boxes. There is no relationship beyond that for these two companies. TSW is 100% Funcom's game.
The red is a crafty misinterprtaions of my words. If someone said I'm not playing TSW because of EA, it's not the same thing as saying I'm not playing GW2 because of NCsoft.
EA has no rights to TSW. Funcom is independent.
Ncsoft owns GW2. Anet is owned by Ncsoft.
"It's not a TSW EA situation" Some here in the GW2 forum like to believe it's the samething, but it's very different.
Originally posted by Raekon Originally posted by letsxhat Originally posted by pacov Originally posted by letsxhat Originally posted by Aerowyn Originally posted by letsxhat Originally posted by DarthSov So let me get this straight. Your overall opinion on games is that regardless of the game devs actual perpenceity in execution and qualityof the said product, its all for nought if that publisher is deemed more or less evil!You may have had a point if it were the case for instance that EA were involved but here you're exhibiting signs of severe silly.
This is not a TSW EA situation. NCsoft is the owner of Anet, and they producer of GW2. Many of us a hesitant when it comes to Korean companies.
and why does it really matter if it is? if TSW is a good game and people enjoy it who cares if it is funcom and EA?
well it's not Funcom and EA. It's Funcom. GW2 is NCsoft is owned and funded by NCsoft a Korean game maker. Maybe you misunderstood me.
OP can say I hate NCsoft so I wont play GW2. The money goes straight to NCsoft.
Can't compare a company that makes a bad game to a company that is funded by a company that made a bad game. NCsoft has no influence on Arenanets development of the game. Are any of their staff working with arenanet to incorporate ideas to the game? no.
NCsoft owns Anet. Anet wont see a penny until NCsoft gives it to them. It's NCsofts game.
Yeah right... now tell me WHO funded the game for over 5 years so ANet can create it?
I guess you know the answer already but since you are too busy to bash NCSoft along with the OP and his silly approach it won't matter.
Seriously? It amazes me what lengths and what points people are coming up with to dislike or to put down this game.
It doesn't make ANY sense to waste your time coming in a games forum and posting things like that.
Most of all since it's not a concern that has to do with the game, it's the ops hate towards one of the oldest and best mmos developers/publishers around.
I admit that AION was a game I passed but I have tested and played all the other games NCSoft produced or published and wasn't dissappointed by them at all(unlike other publishers or developers).
Saying GW2 is owned by NCsoft is not bashing.... A lot of people here don't want to hear it, but it's not bashing.
No see you been saying they made/developed the game and that ANET isn't running the show with GW2. That's the difference and it's mad annoying when people pussy out and start switching shit as if their intentions in the first place where different after realizing they where wrong about their original intention. I mean shit atleast admit defeat, you don't have to accept it but atleast admit and maybe just maybe youd get some slack. I don't hold mercy or pity on switch and baiting mofos because that bullshit is lame as hell. I'll give you this I'm sure NCSOFt had to do with the pre purchase for beta but I swear if they where really running the show the game would have released awhile back. Get back at me when you ready to get "Real" same goes for the others that agree with you or stay backing you up because they are the same ones backing up bait and switching mofos and they know who they are, yea I'm quick to call a lot of naysayers of GW 2 bait n switching, but Maybe if they didn't do it i wouldn't say anything. I swear...Take care and enjoy/live life
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Stupid? It is heroic really. Stand your ground for what you believe in, even if it hurts you.
Edit: Then again, there is fine line between being heroic and just stupid, or so I've heard XD.
Of course that's not heroic, that's plainly stupid. Arenanet doesn't do anything bad towards the costumers, on the contrary Anet is moving the genre forward. There is no reason punishing Anet because of NCsoft.... Besides Anet begun with 5 developers, now they have 250, guess who gave them the money for such a huge investment.
The concerns about NCsoft are invalid. NCsoft doesn't mess with the developers unlike EA. NCsoft is a "good" publisher. True they've released bad games in the past, but that was mostly the developer's fault not NCsoft's
Block the trolls, don't answer them, so we can remove the garbage from these forums
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for me that is just stupid. dont play a game that i love just because i dont like company?
Game of the Year award means nothing due to SWTOR receiving it from Massively last year.
Stupid? It is heroic really. Stand your ground for what you believe in, even if it hurts you.
Edit: Then again, there is fine line between being heroic and just stupid, or so I've heard XD.
So you are saying that term "acquisition of ArenaNet" in http://www.arena.net/press/ncsoft_acquires_arenanet, did not refer to NCSoft explicitely buying Arenanet? I was under the impression that it is precisely what "acquisition" is supposed to mean.
I agree with 234. Befor I buy any game, regardless of the type of game, I always check the publishing company (and to a certain point, the degree of freedom the dev company has in relation to the publishing company). Best example is EA, worst exmple, is NCsoft.
EA Games corporate policy and business model has severely effected the games their subsidiaries develop, to a point that many people now refuse to buy EA products (me for example).
NCsoft has produced both great games and some serious lemons; from GW to Tabula Rasa. As of right now, I'm half and half on NCsoft. I don't buy all their games, but I do buy some.
Just as with EA Games, I don't buy certain products from other companies due to the policies of their parent companies. I know I may come across as a hater, but I'm not. As a consumer I make the choices that I feel are best for me. My role as the consumer in our capitalist (free market) structure is to "judge" the products and their companies by what I buy and what I do not buy. I am not trying to take some "high road" or anything, just merely casting my judgement (consumer review) on products that are out there.
On a side note, I was reading up on the founders of GW2 and the relationship between Anet and NCsoft. It does appear that Anet does have a large degree of freedom to operate as it wills. Anet does not answer to NCsoft Korea, but to NC West, which happens to be headquarted in Seattle Washington, right next to Bellevue. Sounds more like they created a corporate branch just satisfy Anet devs than to force their hand on them. As for the Anet devs, read up on their history... I now understand why WOW essentially sucks and why Diablo 3 is not what it used to be... but that's a different argument lol.
Well that was some info i realy needed to know thank you that was total waste reading your dislike for GW2 lol.
Funny how some feel the need to make a topic to tell others they wont playing the game.
Hope you find your game and leave us alone
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StrangeEyes, I have a feeling we'll be seeing Copenhagen soon enough in GW2. Most GW fans have already pre purchased GW2. Those who liked GW and like GW2 either have already pre purchased GW2 or will buy GW2 upon release. Those who are on the fence and wanting to wait and see how the game pans out will prob buy the game in 1-3 months after release. The skeptical ones will wait 3-6 months. The haters will eventually come into the fold 6 months to one year, or after the first expansion and they realize they're the only ones not playing GW2 and missing out on all the fun.
Before Trolls jump on me, this is just half satirical humor and half a true statement; it is not intended to be taken literally or too serious lol.
Oh, I'm sure they will miss you...
GW2 for first is made by ANet and only published by NCSoft.. So NCSoft only has to help ANet get those copies to the stores and help them with marketing and whatever it takes to get that game out of ANets dev studio and give it to the world... Figuratively speaking
So what if they're making money out of the game? They're the publishers and they should make the money out of it... There's nothing wrong with making money as long as it's a good product which people would buy.
I always kinda giggle when I see posts like this on forums ...
"Happiness is not a destination. It is a method of life."
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Funcom pays EA for moving boxes. There is no relationship beyond that for these two companies. TSW is 100% Funcom's game.
The red is a crafty misinterprtaions of my words. If someone said I'm not playing TSW because of EA, it's not the same thing as saying I'm not playing GW2 because of NCsoft.
EA has no rights to TSW. Funcom is independent.
Ncsoft owns GW2. Anet is owned by Ncsoft.
"It's not a TSW EA situation" Some here in the GW2 forum like to believe it's the samething, but it's very different.
+1 to Aerowyn for twisting my words.
This is not a TSW EA situation. NCsoft is the owner of Anet, and they producer of GW2. Many of us a hesitant when it comes to Korean companies.
and why does it really matter if it is? if TSW is a good game and people enjoy it who cares if it is funcom and EA?
well it's not Funcom and EA. It's Funcom. GW2 is NCsoft is owned and funded by NCsoft a Korean game maker. Maybe you misunderstood me.
OP can say I hate NCsoft so I wont play GW2. The money goes straight to NCsoft.
Can't compare a company that makes a bad game to a company that is funded by a company that made a bad game. NCsoft has no influence on Arenanets development of the game. Are any of their staff working with arenanet to incorporate ideas to the game? no.
NCsoft owns Anet. Anet wont see a penny until NCsoft gives it to them. It's NCsofts game.
Yeah right... now tell me WHO funded the game for over 5 years so ANet can create it?
I guess you know the answer already but since you are too busy to bash NCSoft along with the OP and his silly approach it won't matter.
Seriously? It amazes me what lengths and what points people are coming up with to dislike or to put down this game.
It doesn't make ANY sense to waste your time coming in a games forum and posting things like that.
Most of all since it's not a concern that has to do with the game, it's the ops hate towards one of the oldest and best mmos developers/publishers around.
I admit that AION was a game I passed but I have tested and played all the other games NCSoft produced or published and wasn't dissappointed by them at all(unlike other publishers or developers).
Saying GW2 is owned by NCsoft is not bashing.... A lot of people here don't want to hear it, but it's not bashing.
I might get banned for this. - Rizel Star.
I'm not afraid to tell trolls what they [need] to hear, even if that means for me to have an forced absence afterwards.
P2P LOGIC = If it's P2P it means longevity, overall better game, and THE BEST SUPPORT EVER!!!!!(Which has been rinsed and repeated about a thousand times)
Common Sense Logic = P2P logic is no better than F2P Logic.
Of course that's not heroic, that's plainly stupid. Arenanet doesn't do anything bad towards the costumers, on the contrary Anet is moving the genre forward. There is no reason punishing Anet because of NCsoft.... Besides Anet begun with 5 developers, now they have 250, guess who gave them the money for such a huge investment.
The concerns about NCsoft are invalid. NCsoft doesn't mess with the developers unlike EA. NCsoft is a "good" publisher. True they've released bad games in the past, but that was mostly the developer's fault not NCsoft's
Block the trolls, don't answer them, so we can remove the garbage from these forums