SWTOR sells over 600k in December - NPD

Warband

“Star Wars: The Old Republic was the 14th best-selling title in December, and it was released only on PC. While the collector’s edition sold less than the regular SKU, the SKU’s both generated about the same in dollar sales, thanks to a hefty price point that fans were willing to spend on this well-loved franchise.”

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2012-01-13-us-sales-in-2011-fall-8-per-cent-after-weak-december

If we assume it sold roughly the same amount in Europe (which seems likely), that should put the total sales for December for Swtor at about 1.2 mil.

Classicstar

Skyrim sold in first month 6 million copy's :P

Herodes

*rawr* You have to have an account there to see this link.

Warband

Originally posted by Herodes

*rawr* You have to have an account there to see this link.

 Yeah one of the annoying parts of the games industry though it does have very good information you won't get anywhere else.

maskedweasel

Originally posted by forest-nl

Skyrim sold in first month 6 million copy's :P

Well.. it was also cross platform.. and consoles always outsell PC. :P

sanosukex

Originally posted by maskedweasel

Originally posted by forest-nl

Skyrim sold in first month 6 million copy's :P

Well.. it was also cross platform.. and consoles always outsell PC. :P

yea you can never compare cross platform to PC only also you can't really compare single player to MMO since a lot more people play single player games...

Afterlife

Especially when MMOs also have that evil looking monthly fee. Tends to put off would be buyers that aren't normally MMO players. 600k is respectable.

Teala

Originally posted by Warband

“Star Wars: The Old Republic was the 14th best-selling title in December, and it was released only on PC. While the collector’s edition sold less than the regular SKU, the SKU’s both generated about the same in dollar sales, thanks to a hefty price point that fans were willing to spend on this well-loved franchise.”

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2012-01-13-us-sales-in-2011-fall-8-per-cent-after-weak-december

If we assume it sold roughly the same amount in Europe (which seems likely), that should put the total sales for December for Swtor at about 1.2 mil.

Actually, aren't those strictly box sales?  So if we include digital downloads with the box sales, an argument can be made that is is more than likely that SWTOR could have broke the 2 million mark - if we combine box and digital downloads( for both the US and EU).

Brenda_S

Originally posted by Teala

Actually, aren't those strictly box sales?  So if we include digital downloads with the box sales, an argument can be made that is is more than likely that SWTOR could have broke the 2 million mark - if we combine box and digital downloads( for both the US and EU).

 

LOL...

Just a short while ago you were making up a story about how you had access the latest NPD game sales report...

Teala

Originally posted by Brenda_S

Originally posted by Teala

Actually, aren't those strictly box sales?  So if we include digital downloads with the box sales, an argument can be made that is is more than likely that SWTOR could have broke the 2 million mark - if we combine box and digital downloads( for both the US and EU).

 

LOL... Just a short while ago you were making up a story about how you had access the latest NPD game sales report...

Only box sales.  Not digital downloads.

Warband

Originally posted by Teala

Originally posted by Warband

“Star Wars: The Old Republic was the 14th best-selling title in December, and it was released only on PC. While the collector’s edition sold less than the regular SKU, the SKU’s both generated about the same in dollar sales, thanks to a hefty price point that fans were willing to spend on this well-loved franchise.”

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2012-01-13-us-sales-in-2011-fall-8-per-cent-after-weak-december

If we assume it sold roughly the same amount in Europe (which seems likely), that should put the total sales for December for Swtor at about 1.2 mil.

Actually, aren't those strictly box sales?  So if we include digital downloads with the box sales, an argument can be made that is is more than likely that SWTOR could have broke the 2 million mark - if we combine box and digital downloads( for both the US and EU).

Actually it should currently be tracking digital, I'm not absolutely certain it is but it should. It does not however track steam but considering SWTOR isn't on steam it shouldn't be a problem.

Yamota

Not sure why box sales would matter for an MMORPG but then again one could argue if SW:TOR is truly an MMORPG.

pharazonic

Far cry from the "3 million in NA, 2.5 million in Europe WoW KILLA!" the fanbois were slobbering for. 

That said, numbers are ultimately irrelevant - a good game with great devs doesn't need to have millions of subs. 

tinuelle

Originally posted by pharazonic

That said, numbers are ultimately irrelevant - a good game with great devs doesn't need to have millions of subs. 

Really? I'm pretty sure numbers are ultimately relevant for any MMO.

nyxium

Nowhere near enough to match the investment costs. Their best hope is sub retention now.

Yamota

Originally posted by parrotpholk

Actually I expected better to be honest.  Respectable no doubt.  WIll be interested in the 3 month retention numbers.

Which you ofcourse will never see unless they are really good, which they most likely wont be.

Warband

Wait so the ratio of people that bought the collectors edition to regular edition was 1:2.5. What the flying freck, How the hell did that many people by a $150 collectors edition. I don't get it. I mean really?

niceguy3978

Originally posted by Warband

Originally posted by Teala

Originally posted by Warband

“Star Wars: The Old Republic was the 14th best-selling title in December, and it was released only on PC. While the collector’s edition sold less than the regular SKU, the SKU’s both generated about the same in dollar sales, thanks to a hefty price point that fans were willing to spend on this well-loved franchise.”

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2012-01-13-us-sales-in-2011-fall-8-per-cent-after-weak-december

If we assume it sold roughly the same amount in Europe (which seems likely), that should put the total sales for December for Swtor at about 1.2 mil.

Actually, aren't those strictly box sales?  So if we include digital downloads with the box sales, an argument can be made that is is more than likely that SWTOR could have broke the 2 million mark - if we combine box and digital downloads( for both the US and EU).

Actually it should currently be tracking digital, I'm not absolutely certain it is but it should. It does not however track steam but considering SWTOR isn't on steam it shouldn't be a problem.

The only place you could get it digitally was EA's download service.  I doubt they would share that information with NPD.  

gervaise1

Originally posted by Warband

Originally posted by Teala

Originally posted by Warband

“Star Wars: The Old Republic was the 14th best-selling title in December, and it was released only on PC. While the collector’s edition sold less than the regular SKU, the SKU’s both generated about the same in dollar sales, thanks to a hefty price point that fans were willing to spend on this well-loved franchise.”

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2012-01-13-us-sales-in-2011-fall-8-per-cent-after-weak-december

If we assume it sold roughly the same amount in Europe (which seems likely), that should put the total sales for December for Swtor at about 1.2 mil.

Actually, aren't those strictly box sales?  So if we include digital downloads with the box sales, an argument can be made that is is more than likely that SWTOR could have broke the 2 million mark - if we combine box and digital downloads( for both the US and EU).

Actually it should currently be tracking digital, I'm not absolutely certain it is but it should. It does not however track steam but considering SWTOR isn't on steam it shouldn't be a problem.

I can't see the link. If it is tracking digital (and is talking about through sales and not boxes sold to Anazon etc.) then if we assume that EU sales were about 75% of US sales - based on the EU having about 75% of the servers that the US has then that would mean that it sold ....... 1M+.

Amazingly that is what EA reported in their press release.

EA will announce there Q3 results around the end of January; that should be more revealing - either for what it says or what it doesn't say.

niceguy3978

According to VGChartz (which is somewhat suspect) through 1/7 SWTOR had sold 1.9 million copies.  They do not track digital sales.

Warband

Originally posted by niceguy3978

Originally posted by Warband

Originally posted by Teala

Originally posted by Warband

“Star Wars: The Old Republic was the 14th best-selling title in December, and it was released only on PC. While the collector’s edition sold less than the regular SKU, the SKU’s both generated about the same in dollar sales, thanks to a hefty price point that fans were willing to spend on this well-loved franchise.”

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2012-01-13-us-sales-in-2011-fall-8-per-cent-after-weak-december

If we assume it sold roughly the same amount in Europe (which seems likely), that should put the total sales for December for Swtor at about 1.2 mil.

Actually, aren't those strictly box sales?  So if we include digital downloads with the box sales, an argument can be made that is is more than likely that SWTOR could have broke the 2 million mark - if we combine box and digital downloads( for both the US and EU).

Actually it should currently be tracking digital, I'm not absolutely certain it is but it should. It does not however track steam but considering SWTOR isn't on steam it shouldn't be a problem.

The only place you could get it digitally was EA's download service.  I doubt they would share that information with NPD.  

True but then again EA isn't exactly adverse to sharing it's sales information, and we're assuming the amount sold through Origin a single and new digital distributer is going to be such a significant amount which quite frankly is unlikely.

Teala

Originally posted by niceguy3978

Originally posted by Warband

Originally posted by Teala

Originally posted by Warband

“Star Wars: The Old Republic was the 14th best-selling title in December, and it was released only on PC. While the collector’s edition sold less than the regular SKU, the SKU’s both generated about the same in dollar sales, thanks to a hefty price point that fans were willing to spend on this well-loved franchise.”

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2012-01-13-us-sales-in-2011-fall-8-per-cent-after-weak-december

If we assume it sold roughly the same amount in Europe (which seems likely), that should put the total sales for December for Swtor at about 1.2 mil.

Actually, aren't those strictly box sales?  So if we include digital downloads with the box sales, an argument can be made that is is more than likely that SWTOR could have broke the 2 million mark - if we combine box and digital downloads( for both the US and EU).

Actually it should currently be tracking digital, I'm not absolutely certain it is but it should. It does not however track steam but considering SWTOR isn't on steam it shouldn't be a problem.

The only place you could get it digitally was EA's download service.  I doubt they would share that information with NPD.  

Exactly...we do not know how many copies were digital downloads, because  Ido not think EA would share that info so readily.  The data I can see covers all major retail outlets(Target, K-Mart, Fred Meyers, Wal-Mart also includes such stores as Gamestop, Amazon etc, etc) in the US only and it shows that the game sold over 650k box units for the month of December - another note is that not all the retailers have reported complete sales numbers either.   We probably won't know that until further into this month.   Take that for what it is worth.

smh_alot

@OP: those were US physical copies in December as the article says, the 'over 600k'. Which means that you can add the digital sales as well as the non-US sales, which in all likelihood pushes the number to around 2 million in total sales.

If the CE in the US had the same in sales as the physical copies, then this means that the CE would have been around 180k, and the total revenues of CE and normal physical copies somewhere around 50-55 million dollar?

That's purely the physical sales for the US, the digital sales and non-US digital and physical sales not counted.

Souldrainer

600K is much lower than I expected, but their number of concurrent users is much higher than I expected.  The game is doing well, but not conquering the world by any means.  It looks like the market is being contested by WOW, Rift, and SWTOR.  Healthy competition is great for the industry.

Warband

Originally posted by smh_alot

@OP: those were US physical copies in December as the article says, the 'over 600k'. Which means that you can add the digital sales as well as the non-US sales, which in all likelihood pushes the number to around 2 million in total sales.

 

If the CE in the US had the same in sales as the physical copies, then this means that the CE would have been around 180k, and the total revenues of CE and normal physical copies somewhere around 50-55 million dollar?

 

That's purely the physical sales for the US, the digital sales and non-US digital and physical sales not counted.

Your reasoning is flawed over 600K means over it does not have any inference on any other factors. it just means the amount they tracked was over 600k e.g 600,010 units etc.

Though digital sales may not be tracked I don't know for certain.

Yamota

Originally posted by smh_alot

@OP: those were US physical copies in December as the article says, the 'over 600k'. Which means that you can add the digital sales as well as the non-US sales, which in all likelihood pushes the number to around 2 million in total sales.

 

If the CE in the US had the same in sales as the physical copies, then this means that the CE would have been around 180k, and the total revenues of CE and normal physical copies somewhere around 50-55 million dollar?

 

That's purely the physical sales for the US, the digital sales and non-US digital and physical sales not counted.

If the game had sold 2 million copies then EA/Bioware would have bragged about it to no end, and they haven't which in all likelyhood means the game is still under the two million mark.

In any case, subscriber base past the first free month is far more interesting than box sales.