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CCP Cancels QEN (Quarterly Economic Newsletter)
Paradigm68
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in EVE Online
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1556620&page=1#20
Massively has more in-depth on it.
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It's very unlikely that it has anything to do with subscription numbers. The QEN that would cover the recent protests would not be until the 3rd QEN of this year, and we are only due for the first one to come out. They wouldn't even be faced with the question of whether or not they want to try and hide the numbers in the QEN for another 6 months at least.
It's not the POINT whether or not it covers the recent issues.
The issue at HAND is that CCP now has the APPEARANCE of trying to cover up particular numbers that could be deduced. Now, they SAY they'll be releasing the RAW numbers but is it TRUE? Or are they lying? Are they covering something else up?
As I said someplace else, how does the fact that "The QEN that would cover the recent protests would not be until the 3rd QEN of this year" mean that they are not trying to hide that data? I mean they have cancelled the report before the report was due to come out. Again to be clear I'm not saying this whole thing is a deliberate attempt to hide the data, I have no idea, I'm just saying your explanation doesn't preclude them attempting to hide data as you seem to be saying it does.
Whatever the reason, they've lost a lot of credibility amongst their fanbase. This just exacerbates it when they should be going to great lengths to earn it back. Stupid move.
Sums it up.
Give me liberty or give me lasers
Basically what I am saying is that they had 6 months before they had to hide any data. If you were going to decide to hide data that comes out 6 months from now would you announce it when everyone is still watching you closely (especially considering the QEN is something only a small segment of the population cares about)? Or would you release the other 2 QEN's before the one with data everyone is accusing them of trying to hide and quietly cancel it at the end of the year when people are not so riled up?
It just seems it is more likely another poorly timed anouncement on their part, not an attempt to hide anything.
WoW ..things are going from bad to really ... $%^&$ up ..for them. Well they need to start freeing up some cash for that loan .... they must pay so yes ... JOBS GO FIRST ... then we see delays!
Too add to this, the time delay is more and likely the reason it is going away. Go ask any investor if he would read an Economics report that has general data for what happened 6-9 months ago. I don't think anyone really looked at it for more then odd statistic here or there. There is much better and more current methods of getting useful information then the QEN, I've been surprised its lasted this long to be honest.
Only who lost the credibility is the 'fanbase'.
Ok, that makes sense. But you could also argue, why not cancel it now when everyone is all upset anyway and then 6 to 9 months down the road when the info would have come out, it would be forgotten.
Not everyone is upset, you are upset so you see the announcement as more important than it actually is...
No more than personal bias.
That's too bad, I enjoyed those news letters, and it opened up a lot of discussion on sites like this one so it was nice publicity for the game.
So far it does not seem anything will be missing, on the contrary.
Once CCP provides raw data, players will be able to publish their own newsletters.
Or, the other way around, not being upset, you fail to see the import of the news.
Yep, that is what all paranoid people say...
Figures. A report that almost no one cares about. But woe when it gets cancelled. Then everyone suddenly starts theorycrafting (at best). Sheesh.
May I remind you that, so far, they've only published the four price indices and AFIAK this, right here, is the first time it's been mentioned in this forum.
So far and right here indeed. New format was not established and settled yet... That is exactly what EyjoG said and what is obvious, your point?
CCP struggles with implementation, sure, they have good ideas, but when it comes to putting them into action all you get is the bare minimum effort such as the four price indices.
I'll be pleasantly surprised if I'm wrong, but for me, a QEN in the hand is better than a promise of raw data some time in the future.
Of course only time will tell how it pans out but if you are afraid of changes just because something can go wrong, you will not move forward much.
It is better to screw up something once in a while than not doing anything at all.
It's not really a question of change but that they are removing the QEN and don't have a clear idea of what they're going to replace it with. If they said they're removing QEN and gave us the replacement then I'd be less leery, but instead, we get a cancelled QEN for a not fully fleshed out alternative, which typically means it's going to be half assed...
I hope I'm wrong and we get access to all the stats and data that the good Doctor that writes the QEN has, but as you say, time will tell and I'll add that we shouldn't hold our breath while we wait for their alternative.
As a part time industrialist in EVE that knows a few full-time industrialists I don't think that any of us have really looked towards the QEN as being useful for anything. Remember the data was always at least 3 months out of date and you could get a better and more uptodate idea of what was going on by looking at Battleclinic, eve-central, and several other player created indexes out there. So for the serious people who may find a use for something like the QEN they weren't looking at it anyway because it was already too far behind what they needed and often don't reflect the current economic state in EVE because of different conflicts or content patches.
So if anything the QEN was a good idea but really a failed implementation. Its the equivlant of trying to find a use for a 3+ month old copy of the Wall Street Journal. Some of the articles may be a good read, but in the end its still worthless.
Just because they do not share their plans with you does not mean they have none. In fact, they obviously do have a clear idea but the form and extent isn't known yet thus you got all the information they got...still complaining though...
Things take time, especially in companies of CCP's size. Processes can be slow as it goes through numerous departments, hands, depends on many people and needs to fit into different schedules. Also, QEN is most likely very low on priority list...
If you find anything leery about it, I have to ask and doubt your age and life experience.
Sometimes try to see it from opposite perspective.
Failed? It's QEN - Quarterly Economic Newsletter for christ sake... It was never supposed to be a platform providing actual economical data and breaking news from the market and industry.
It hardly failed as it was doing what it was supposed to do - a newsletter providing some insight into EVE economy and other various related information.