not sure... maybe as a stand-alone expansion considering that they will need a entirely new set of quests/contacts/storyline/items/abilites and so on and so forth
not sure... maybe as a stand-alone expansion considering that they will need a entirely new set of quests/contacts/storyline/items/abilites and so on and so forth
As a free addon expansion... Very unlikley.
Why not? CCP has a track record of releasing free expansions. If their current business model is anything to take note of, I would think they'd probably duplicate a lot of what's worked for them so far. It keeps everyone on the same page.
But we are talking about basicly a entire new game... You cant re-use contacts/skills/storyline/ and you need a lot of new art assets unlike Eve were you only need one set of everything.
So if you are making an "new" game why not charge for it.
Originally posted by jusomdude
What's a Garou? All I care about being able to play are vampires.
What's a Garou? All I care about being able to play are vampires.
"Garou is a term used by the werewolves of Werewolf: The Apocalypse to identify their race and culture. The term is used nearly interchangeably with Garou Nation."
Because Werewolf: The Apocalypse is one of the settings of the OWOD. I have some W:TA stuff including a Red Talon tribe necklace.
I hope they add it in as an expansion or something later, I always played werewolf rather than vampire. And I seem to recall that an irritated werewolf vs an annoyed vampire usually resulted in a dusty mess and someone calling for an urn? Maybe it wasn't quite that extreme an ending for the poor vampires, but werewolves were definitely less squishy.
I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy, accompanied by an educational system which would be oriented toward social goals.
They already said its going to be based on Vampire, I highly doubt you will see any Werewolf stuff being added in. As it is CCP is hurting on funds trying to run EvE with Incarna aswell as work on WoD and Dust 514, they shouldnt be trying to add in werewolf stuff into their vampire game any time soon if they want things to work out well.
There's really not that much information out about the game, so we have no right to assume that werewolves will or will not be in the game upon release.
It might even end up not seeing the light of day at all.
There's really not that much information out about the game, so we have no right to assume that werewolves will or will not be in the game upon release.
It might even end up not seeing the light of day at all.
There's really not that much information out about the game, so we have no right to assume that werewolves will or will not be in the game upon release.
It might even end up not seeing the light of day at all.
I'm starting to think this, too.
When EVE finally gets walking in stations and has many smooth operating avatars in clubs, bars, and other player environments, we will then most likely start to get more game information on WOD.
We will have to wait until the Carbon technology engine is mature and fully functional before we could expect to start getting in depth information for the WOD game.
Steady girls. We got quite a while til we know anything for sure. To the OP, never put it past CCP to add in some new content. Will it be something you like? That's debatable. I personally am hoping for Garou, Kindred and one other such as Mages, but I agree we probably won't see it for months, even years.
I'm tempering my expectations with spending less time playing and more time living my real life. We'll find out soon enough.
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There's really not that much information out about the game, so we have no right to assume that werewolves will or will not be in the game upon release.
It might even end up not seeing the light of day at all.
I fear that your latter point might be the case also really.
I have a horrible feeling that it might be somewhat telling that that teaser clip from the Masquerade event last year, is still only available as a shaky off-cam video on youtube. It would be very little hassle for CCP to have that footage uploaded properly - and it's essentially free advertising for them in terms of generating interest for the title. Yet it hasn't happened...
I truly hope this does get a release, I think it would be a wonderful title, and baring some shall we say 'strange' business decisions recently, CCP are in the main a good company, that makes well regarded and unique games. But I'm not going to hold my breath
not sure... maybe as a stand-alone expansion considering that they will need a entirely new set of quests/contacts/storyline/items/abilites and so on and so forth
As a free addon expansion... Very unlikley.
I agree and would gladly pay for a werewolf expansion if the WoD gameplay and enviorment is done justice with the Vampire side alone.
To those who are expecting that it'll be vaporware, let me tell you this.
CCP and WhiteWolf don't hype this game, like most other companies. They've shown a small glimpse last year at the great masquerade and they'll be showing news about WoD at the next grand masquerade aswell. They do this with their EvE Online stuff aswell, where they only show stuff at the EvE fanfest. It's the way how CCP rolls.
All the tech needed for WoD is being developed simultanously with Incarna and walking inn stations and once the tech is there they only need to apply it to WoD. And don't be fooled, they sure are working on WoD alot currently. They've got a whole department of around 100 people only working on WoD, just as they have a department for Dust514. CCP isn't the small company anymore they were some years ago. I wouldn't even call them "indy" anymore, far from that.
Does it take them too long? Well, maybe, but we shouldn't forget that developing an MMO isn't done in three years. And the best we know is, that CCP merged with WhiteWolf in late 2006. So a good assumption would be, that CCP started early development (i.e. rough ideas) in 2007. Now Given a usual development of five or six years we shouldn't expect WoD earlier then 2012/13.
There's alot of games around to fill the gap and time goes by rather quickly anyways if you're working and having a family etc.
I would love a Werewolf:the Apocolypse game, but there is no way they'll bring Garou straight from that era of werewolf in as they were killing machines. Vampires didn't stand a chance against them in physical combat (the real Garou, not the watered down ones in the Vampire rulebooks as NPCs)
I bet they will center on Vampires and leave most of the rest to NPC encounters. Mainly because Garou will cause a few class/racial imbalancing issues, to put it mildly. I would rather they work hard to make the spell and ability mechanics more than just different types of dps like in most wow style mmorpgs. Because if they don't the Tremere will forced into a simplistic ranged dps role with some kind of blood shield garbage. Malkavians will also be a challenge, possibly Lasombra. Then the factions for vampires alone will be a years work. Wondering just how they will do that Anarchs or not kind of thing.
I bet they will center on Vampires and leave most of the rest to NPC encounters. Mainly because Garou will cause a few class/racial imbalancing issues, to put it mildly. I would rather they work hard to make the spell and ability mechanics more than just different types of dps like in most wow style mmorpgs. Because if they don't the Tremere will forced into a simplistic ranged dps role with some kind of blood shield garbage. Malkavians will also be a challenge, possibly Lasombra. Then the factions for vampires alone will be a years work. Wondering just how they will do that Anarchs or not kind of thing.
No doubt. I had a Get of Fenris that would destroy any vampire, except maybe a very, very old one. I would imagine that it would/will be a long time before we see anything other than vamps as PC's. No matter, CCP can take as much time and give as little information as they want, for all I care. I have played EvE since 2006 and they have not failed yet.
Anarchs and Camarilla and all the politics I believe will be in from the start. It is sort of imperative to the lore. A Brujah isn't a Brujah is he without it?
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not sure... maybe as a stand-alone expansion considering that they will need a entirely new set of quests/contacts/storyline/items/abilites and so on and so forth
As a free addon expansion... Very unlikley.
This have been a good conversation
Why not? CCP has a track record of releasing free expansions. If their current business model is anything to take note of, I would think they'd probably duplicate a lot of what's worked for them so far. It keeps everyone on the same page.
What's a Garou? All I care about being able to play are vampires.
But we are talking about basicly a entire new game... You cant re-use contacts/skills/storyline/ and you need a lot of new art assets unlike Eve were you only need one set of everything.
So if you are making an "new" game why not charge for it.
This have been a good conversation
"Garou is a term used by the werewolves of Werewolf: The Apocalypse to identify their race and culture. The term is used nearly interchangeably with Garou Nation."
http://whitewolf.wikia.com/wiki/Garou
They should change the game to VTM, no one likes Jacobs.
I want to play as an Edward!
Seriously? You want a sparkly vampire? M'kay... whatever floats yer boat... but they won't be part of this game.
Never argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level, then beat you with experience.
I hope they add it in as an expansion or something later, I always played werewolf rather than vampire. And I seem to recall that an irritated werewolf vs an annoyed vampire usually resulted in a dusty mess and someone calling for an urn? Maybe it wasn't quite that extreme an ending for the poor vampires, but werewolves were definitely less squishy.
I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy, accompanied by an educational system which would be oriented toward social goals.
~Albert Einstein
They already said its going to be based on Vampire, I highly doubt you will see any Werewolf stuff being added in. As it is CCP is hurting on funds trying to run EvE with Incarna aswell as work on WoD and Dust 514, they shouldnt be trying to add in werewolf stuff into their vampire game any time soon if they want things to work out well.
Mess with the best, Die like the rest
There's really not that much information out about the game, so we have no right to assume that werewolves will or will not be in the game upon release.
It might even end up not seeing the light of day at all.
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I'm starting to think this, too.
When EVE finally gets walking in stations and has many smooth operating avatars in clubs, bars, and other player environments, we will then most likely start to get more game information on WOD.
We will have to wait until the Carbon technology engine is mature and fully functional before we could expect to start getting in depth information for the WOD game.
One of the guys from white wolf in a vid has hinted that the grand masquerade would have some new info in september
Steady girls. We got quite a while til we know anything for sure. To the OP, never put it past CCP to add in some new content. Will it be something you like? That's debatable. I personally am hoping for Garou, Kindred and one other such as Mages, but I agree we probably won't see it for months, even years.
I'm tempering my expectations with spending less time playing and more time living my real life. We'll find out soon enough.
Playing: BF4/BF:Hardline, Subnautica 7 days to die
Hiatus: EvE
Waiting on: World of Darkness(sigh)
Interested in: better games in general
I fear that your latter point might be the case also really.
I have a horrible feeling that it might be somewhat telling that that teaser clip from the Masquerade event last year, is still only available as a shaky off-cam video on youtube. It would be very little hassle for CCP to have that footage uploaded properly - and it's essentially free advertising for them in terms of generating interest for the title. Yet it hasn't happened...
I truly hope this does get a release, I think it would be a wonderful title, and baring some shall we say 'strange' business decisions recently, CCP are in the main a good company, that makes well regarded and unique games. But I'm not going to hold my breath
I agree and would gladly pay for a werewolf expansion if the WoD gameplay and enviorment is done justice with the Vampire side alone.
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Not exactly "hinted"
http://www.thegrandmasquerade.com/events/presentations
To those who are expecting that it'll be vaporware, let me tell you this.
CCP and WhiteWolf don't hype this game, like most other companies. They've shown a small glimpse last year at the great masquerade and they'll be showing news about WoD at the next grand masquerade aswell.
They do this with their EvE Online stuff aswell, where they only show stuff at the EvE fanfest. It's the way how CCP rolls.
All the tech needed for WoD is being developed simultanously with Incarna and walking inn stations and once the tech is there they only need to apply it to WoD. And don't be fooled, they sure are working on WoD alot currently. They've got a whole department of around 100 people only working on WoD, just as they have a department for Dust514. CCP isn't the small company anymore they were some years ago. I wouldn't even call them "indy" anymore, far from that.
Does it take them too long? Well, maybe, but we shouldn't forget that developing an MMO isn't done in three years. And the best we know is, that CCP merged with WhiteWolf in late 2006. So a good assumption would be, that CCP started early development (i.e. rough ideas) in 2007.
Now Given a usual development of five or six years we shouldn't expect WoD earlier then 2012/13.
There's alot of games around to fill the gap and time goes by rather quickly anyways if you're working and having a family etc.
I would love a Werewolf:the Apocolypse game, but there is no way they'll bring Garou straight from that era of werewolf in as they were killing machines. Vampires didn't stand a chance against them in physical combat (the real Garou, not the watered down ones in the Vampire rulebooks as NPCs)
Just hope they don't turn it into Harry potter online meets furcadia ala twilight.
Keep it vampire-centric. Scary insane filthy vampires..
"Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day!"
Not lovable, sane, sparkly vampires?
I bet they will center on Vampires and leave most of the rest to NPC encounters. Mainly because Garou will cause a few class/racial imbalancing issues, to put it mildly. I would rather they work hard to make the spell and ability mechanics more than just different types of dps like in most wow style mmorpgs. Because if they don't the Tremere will forced into a simplistic ranged dps role with some kind of blood shield garbage. Malkavians will also be a challenge, possibly Lasombra. Then the factions for vampires alone will be a years work. Wondering just how they will do that Anarchs or not kind of thing.
No doubt. I had a Get of Fenris that would destroy any vampire, except maybe a very, very old one. I would imagine that it would/will be a long time before we see anything other than vamps as PC's. No matter, CCP can take as much time and give as little information as they want, for all I care. I have played EvE since 2006 and they have not failed yet.
Anarchs and Camarilla and all the politics I believe will be in from the start. It is sort of imperative to the lore. A Brujah isn't a Brujah is he without it?
Playing: BF4/BF:Hardline, Subnautica 7 days to die
Hiatus: EvE
Waiting on: World of Darkness(sigh)
Interested in: better games in general