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cybertrucker
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Seriously after watching watching all the videos of this game, I have to say if you have been playing WOW contently on your 5 or 6 year old computers. I think your going to have to upgrade... I think alot of people are going to be in for a rude awakening when they first try to log in and either their computers crash or just all around freeze up.
I understand that the developers have stated it will run on middle of of road machines. However lets face it. The largest gaming community in tho MMO genre still play WOW. I know multiple people who made small upgrades for cataclysm, my sister was one of them. However iff there is a mass influx of people into GW2 which most believe there will be. I have a feeling. There wil be a mass exodus shortly follloweed by people whos computers just cant run the game.
Middle of the line today is last years upperline of computers. And lets face it alot of people just havent made the upgrades. I am running on a Laptop with a Geforce 8800, and 3 gigs of ram. It runs most games around these days on middle settings. However I get lag. I know for a fact that I am going to have to purchase a new one in the next few months. Alot of people will either not have the money, or will be like I was happy playing Game X without having to buy a whole new machine because my computer cant run the game. Or either it runs it so poorly why bother playing. You also have the people that are looking at the amazing videos being showcased at high settings. They get the game scale it way down just to be able to run it, and it looks like dog (BLEEP) and are like screw this.
This is one of the reasons. I dont think GW2 will not be a WOW killer (by the way I dont play WOW) I do enjoy all the WOW killer arguments though, they are amusing and always make me laugh. WOW is dieing a slow aging death as it is already.
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Go visit Newegg. Buy a desktop. Gaming laptops are only for the rich.
I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy, accompanied by an educational system which would be oriented toward social goals.
~Albert Einstein
This has to do with the fact that alot of people will not buy a new computer for a single game. Regardless of the hype. I realize that alot will. However that door swings both ways.
I for one will be buying a new Laptop. Money is not an issue for me. I work more than I game. LOL... With my profession (look at screenname for a hint) Laptops are just way more conveniant.
However I expect to see a mass exodus from GW2 shortly after launch. This is just one of the reasons. Another is the fact that many might not like it. Me personally. I am hoping the game will be as awesome at it looks.
I don't think it's graphics so much as confusing that might stop it from being the WoW killer. It's reaching pretty far away from the norm, with changing questing to public quests, weapons depicting almost half of your skills, having to move around a lot to avoid attacks. Underwater changes your skills and weapons. They will need to utilize the up and down push system which they may not be familer with going in. Lack of a healer might throw them as well. Not to mention the game is set around a different ideal then most MMOs where it doesn't focus on progression.
All of these sound great but when people like me still seem to have a hard time understanding what the game is all about and people keep saying the DE aren't public quests or that i don't understand the game, how in the world are others going to understand what is going on?
But i'm going off topic here. I don't think it's the graphics themselves that are going to be the problem. Sure it's a barrier. It's the game itself that is more of the problem. It's somewhat confusing, may be more difficult in terms of fast action then people from WoW are used to. Doesn't focus on progress, has almost no end-game (other then redoing what you did while leveling up and pvp)
In short graphics i think is the last thing that will keep it from being a wow killer, it will most assurandly bar some people from playing to be sure though.
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I don't think the people who were able to play GW1 now will have to run out and buy a new computer. Sure, some of the WoW players won't be able to play GW2 at first because of their crap computers. HOWEVER, there is a good chunk of players that will, and the original Guild Wars population was, at its peak, around 3 million players. If another good chunk comes from WoW, and a large portion comes from Guild Wars 1, then you will effectively have another 3 million playing GW2, probably more. When you have that many playing it, it will be a very sucessful MMO. I don't know if it would effectivley kill WoW, but I do know that Guild Wars 2 will have a large playerbase, and with how successful GW1 was, there will be plenty of loyal fans to GW2.
Initial sales of AoC were around 1 million, noone ever complained about running it (people left because of unfnished state of it and terrible stability etc..)
Now its 2011 and GW2 have even lower requirements
I dont think it'll be a problem
I think I actually spent way more time reading and theorycrafting about MMOs than playing them
ArenaNet has been quoted as saying they are developing GW2 on video cards so old that you can't even purchase them anymore. So they are designing it to look good on old tech, not just middle of the road. But it will look spectacular on new tech so there's still incentive to upgrade, however, it remains an option, not a necessity.
People did complain about not being able to run it, but that was a direct result of its unfinished state and stability
I remember in some zones I wouldnt even be able to enter on the lowest settings while others I could run on high due to bad leaks.
Well, okay, in your line of work, you do need a gaming laptop to play! Almost everyone else in the market for a new system to game on should stick with the desktop, though. If it won't be as demanding as AoC, probably most people with the money to shell out for the game itself are already playing on a computer that will handle it.
I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy, accompanied by an educational system which would be oriented toward social goals.
~Albert Einstein
This is all just speculation since we have no idea what the current rigs are being used during demos. Until Arenanet states what the required/recommended specifications are this is all just hearsay based on little to no information. Let's at least wait until beta testing in underway so that way we can have some player perspectives with different configurations.
To the OP: I hear you about the gaming rig. I am currently looking at buying a new laptop since my Vaio broke down last July. Fortunately, I have had computer access in my office (postgraduate) but not for playing games. I am undecided what I should buy since I am currently living in the UK and may be continuing to live here for another year.
I think that most people are at least literate enough to read the side of a box and go 'Oh. Hey, my computer doesn't even meet the minimum requirements to play this'.
... and anybody who has a computer so old that all the games look like crap on it already... who buys GW2 and is expecting it to look FABULOUS and high rez and full of things that none of their other games can manage....
... is probably at least mildly delusional.
I don't think anybody will be too bothered if the main reason people are quitting GW2 is because they're illiterate and crazy.
Who wants their MMORPG full of illiterate crazy people, anyway?
Seriously, I think most people are at least vaguely familiar with whether or not something will run on their computer, and that there's not too many people who see screenshots from the latest games, and expects it to look like that on their 5 year old computer.
So... what exactly is your hangup? In which way are you incapable of telling the difference between DEs and public quests? You keep telling people that SW:ToR isn't a single player game, I feel that somebody needs to be That Informative Guy to you, so you can stop being misiniformed! I am here to help!
So...you think GW2 will be a WoW killer
? I'm sorry, I couldn't resist lol.
On a more serious note...almost every new PC game has the issue of not being compatible with super old computers.
So long as GW2 can be played on midrange PCs, I think it will be fine.
Are you team Azeroth, team Tyria, or team Jacob?
I usually close one eye when I read your posts on GW2 forums, because I know you're a fan of TOR, but always focusing your major points only on negative sides of a game makes you just a hater in disguise.. but hey, a healthy number of skeptics are always nice to have around I guess.
What really bugs me are these blatant lies. No progress? No endgame? Come on whilan, you can do better. You also can't say you're just uninformed because people usually don't talk about things they know nothing about and state them as facts. On the other hand, if you only consider raids (which is the only thing GW2 lacks as far as I know) as endgame, then you really need to expand your horizons.
Eat me!
Making a game that is supposed to run OK on a 7 year old medium range computer isn't a great idea, particularly a game that people play for years.
If Blizzard themselves would have made so Wow would look 14 years old now so the game would look like Meridian 59 or Daggerfall, I am pretty sure that would have been bad.
Some people do need to upgrade their computers if they bought them 7 years ago but that goes for every new games, so old medium ranged computers can't run Rift or TOR either.
GW2s engine is coded by Jeff Strain, probably the best programmer who makes MMOs so it will be pretty optimized and you can run it on a few year old computer but there are limits. I would frankly not be particularly existed if GW2 launched 7 years after Wow and looked just the same and that a few people can't afford the upgrade is acceptable losses here, more people would be turned off if they made a game that looksed so dated today.
The thing is that you need to buy a new computer every 5 year if you buy a good one and every 3 if you buy a crap one if you plan to be able to play new games. Upgrading the GFX card and memory might add you a year or maybe even 2 but 7 years is very old for a computer.
So sorry OP, but you need to upgrade. Get a desktop which is a lot cheaper and keep that laptop for mobile needs, like watching movies on the train and working. 750 bucks should keep you good for the next 4 years at least.
It could be worse, phones only last half the time.
Some people tend to believe that raiding is the only real endgame and GW2 doesn't have any raiding, so they are right.
Of course I myself feels that adding a few raids is the easy way out and that gear progress in the endgame is just the devs being lazy. I think raiding can be fun but is very overrated since there are many other options (and not just redoing the early game).
GW1 does in fact doesn't even start to be interesting in PvE until you already maxed out your levels and gotten top level armor.
So if you like to collect gears with better stats you should find another game to play. Fortunatley are there zillions of MMOs like that but for me does getting the best gear until a new patch makes it less than the best feels like running the same hamsterwheel as I already done the last 7 years or so, besides in GW1.
It is great that the 2 soon releasing AAA games have very different endgame, that actually give us choices but badmouthing the game that doesn't fit your personal preferance isn't good or fair.
GW2 will have plenty of endgame, both PvP, PvE and loads of fun minigames. So will TOR even if they differs a lot fro eachother (not sure about the minigames there).
I seriously hate raiding. In fact, the concept of raiding appeals to me so little that in over 13 years of MMORPG gaming, I have not participated in one raid.
The whole idea of having to sacrifice an entire weekend in order to basically participate as an extremely specialized cog in a huge machine for hours, in the scant hope that you will actually get a good item, just seems so horrible. I'll take a PvP-centric endgame over raiding any day...
Are you team Azeroth, team Tyria, or team Jacob?
You might have a point but you're ignoring many stability complaints could have been derived from crap hardware trying to handle what the game was throwing at it.
I say this because people still make those complaints about AOC, even though it's major stability probelms have been long since fixed.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
It can actually be pretty fun at times... But I really don't have that many weekends to burn and it in't that fun so I prefer a different endgame because of that.
I have no problem running a hard dungeon in the afternoon and spend the evning at the pub but weekend evnings is the best time to spend with my friends.
The problem is that some people tends to think that raiding is the only hard content a MMO have or should have and that sucks, just because you are fewer players shouldn't mean that the content should be easy.
Meh, not worth it.
Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.
I was in the beta and played 9 months after release. I still had a lot of issues and my hardware have always been top notched, and I rarely have issues with the software.
Just after AoC released I got a new computer with 295 GTX card, the best when it released. I also had 4GB ram and a 2,66 Ghz Intel quad, it could run any game at max setting then and I never had any other issues (besides a few in EQ2) but I still had the same issues as on my old computer.
I tried AoC again when the expansion launched, I had no issues whatsoever then.
Sorry but it was the game, it was truly pathetic in the beta and pretty bad when it launched as well. The beta forum was filled with people begging Funcom to wait another 3 months with release.
There will always be some people who get issues due to their computers but AoC was in sad state at launch. I build my computers myself and I rarely get any issues in any game, AoC have had 90% of all bugs I had in games the last 6 years.
And I actually think AoC is a pretty fine game besides from the crappy launch and that FC have been very slow with adding more content. But the bugs were really there.
The example I give on this subject is minecraft. Minecraft is not a very pretty game, but one of the most pretty texture packs available (jolicraft) is in 16x16 if I am correct.
So for Guild Wars 2 they did what they could to make the game look as pretty as possible without pushing the graphical requirements to high. If you watch a video on the human starting area and where dazzled by the lightning effects you'd be suprised to find that that lightning bolt when paused on, looks like nothing more than a brush stroke. That isnt a bad thing, in fact its pretty amazing. They've made a game that looks so beutiful but didnt have to go supper realism to do so.
I didn't say they weren't there, I just said some complaints could have been due to one rather than the other, which would make sense considering there were so many complaints about it.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
I'm going to build myself a new computer for the arrival of GW2 irregardless of the requirements. I want to enjoy everything about GW2 fully, not sacrificing anything during gameplay. Christmas time would be a wonderful timeframe for a GW2 release.
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I get banned in the forums for games I love, so lets see if I do better in the forums for games I hate.
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Ya Jeff Strain is probably the best programmer out there but unfortunately he left Arenanet back in 2008 , he was working on the game Guild wars 2 at the time, i dunno who replaced him thought,
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ya i just finished build mine specialy for Guild wars 2 and Battlefield 3 , my pc was getting old lol now i got a new 1 running extremely fast and smooth, lucky me i placed money on a separeted bank (saving) just for that for the past 4 years
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