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If I wanted to watch a movie.
MsConduct
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I would watch a movie. Or play SWTOR. You guys realize that SWTOR is basically instances and cutscenes, right? Oh and combat is basically everyone shooting and blowing stuff up, no real teamwork or class roles. Don't give money to people who don't deserve it, don't support crap games.
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yes there will be movies
but i highly doubt you will be watching movies more than playing
I'm personally sick of movies in games myself (for both singleplayer and mmos)
altho I did like how GuildWars1 did short movies - but they were instantly skippable too
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Final Fantasy VII was essentially a series of cutscenes on rails, and many people loved that game. Some even touted it as the best of the series. All this after they took a serious jump from the trend that they had followed up through VI.
My point is that unless someone has tested out the gameplay, they can't really have a valid opinion on said gameplay, for any title. Something that very few people around here seem to understand.
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Wow. I'm amazed. You do realize there SWTOR will have all the stuff the average MMO has, along with stories for each class? Hope you can find the real info on the game instead of just coming in here announcing stuff you just made up.
Cheers, bro.
lol What the crap? Why would you say that about FF7 as if it was a bad thing. its a single player game, i sure hope it would have "rails." It was beautiful too, and 3 (VI) are like the most memorable but that series is pretty memorable, squaresoft is a name ill never forget, and thats not including a couple other genres theyve done.
I want to try SWTOR for myself like most things. I may find out just like i did in Rift that its indeed a WoW clone or i may understand more why people hate the way the term "wow clone" gets thrown around so much. I think it looks really cool but ive seen many times that a trailer of gameplay doesnt actually show how the interface effects the combat and vice versa.
I like movies in game, that kinda gives it a point doesnt it? Unless you want a sandbox of course which most casual gamers dont it seems, for now. I love what i read about SWTOR, the ideas and stuff like how your choices effect the story and whatever, its all been done before so we just gotta see how good its done in this one. A great story you can play with friends or alone? Thats exactly what we want. WoW did it right but they removed the rewarding feeling (for me) from the game.
whatevs
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In other words, your run of the mill MMO, plus class based quest lines with cut-scenes.
Considering Bioware's recent track record with RPGs, the OP isn't far off from the truth.
I'd say its quite a bit far off from the truth. While you may have some cutscenes, most of the game isn't cut scenes, its actually playing the game. Only 10% of the game is instanced, teamwork for flashpoints and world quests are mandatory, and every class fits in a role, or hybridization of two roles.
I think that is rather misinformed if you ask me.
So if you wanted to read a book, you'd read a book or play WoW?
Which is exactly the problem with SWTOR, it's going to be average and follow every single genre stereotype in terms of gameplay.
I knew the game was going to be crap the second I saw that it had tab targeting.
And then I laughed my ass off when they presented that pile of shit they're calling a space game.
I agree with you 100% but it doesn't matter, a lot of gamers want this kind of product these days.
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Not that it was bad, just that it was different. Some people are uncertain about the perceived abundance of cutscenes in SWTOR because they aren't something that MMOs have ever had in significant quantity. At the time, cutscenes weren't something that was endemic to FF titles either, and now they are a dire necessity.
This sort of thing might catch on, or it might not. People just don't have any past MMO titles to reference as to how cutscnes as a major storytelling method might pan over, so the natural reaction is fear.
Your choices will affect the story? Maybe. Lot's of games have done it. You are presented with a situation and then given 3 choices on how to react to the situation. Choice 1 is 1 point, Choice 2 is 2 points, Choice 3 is 3 points. If your total is from 1-10 you get ending #1, 11-20 you get ending #2. 21-30 you get ending #3,
If you think by making choices in your little curscenes will affect the entire server and magically change the game world, hahahahaha, I laugh at you.
Personal story choices affect your character and your personal story. World arcs, heroics and the like will have affects on the world. PvP and contested areas will also have a persistent changeo n the world.
And I think saying "hahahaha, I laugh at you" is a little redundant. Just saying.
You are so wrong on this.
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Mass Effect 2 had cutscenes out the wazzoo and its ones of the best games ever made.
Considering Bioware's recent track record of RPGs, I'd be one happy little schoolgirl if they took that same style and made it so I could play with other people.
"Oh and combat is basically everyone shooting and blowing stuff up"
What exactly is war supposed to be? This isnt a strategy game.
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Bioware is one of the only game developers out there who deserve money. They've put out some of the best titles in the past decade. I can't wait until this game releases, and I sure hope people like you, OP, aren't in it.
When the game comes out and you guys have had a few weeks to play and realize that it's the same old BS, you will come back here and start making threads about how awful you feel and that you wasted another 50 bux.
And I will be reading those topics with a huge smile all over my pretty little face.
SWTOR is not innovative or New at all. Have you not watched all the gameplay videos they release? It's the same crap with a few cutscenes added in and no real class diversity.
Well average or not, I'm gonna play it. I'm hoping for something above average, and some minor new stuff. Nothing totally new and out there coz it rarely works.... just some kinda twist to something tested.
And why will I play it? Coz its Star Wars after all. I grew up loving the movies, and its been my favorite IP since (maybe with warhammer close second). Those not trying it, you'll also be playing average at best games. Dont think anything else. Only difference is those games will be GW2 or Earthrise or whatever.... games which mean basically nuffin to me, and how could they?
YOU may not like starwars and thats fine. But you'll never have the same connection to your game, coz honestly how could you?
I have a good feeling there will be no "I told you so" for this one, man.
For sure, bro. Tab targetting is the worst. I prefer to click on shit I need to kill. Hand eye coordination is key and tab targetting makes it too easy for lazy blobs. /sarcasm
Honestly, though, what a dumb thing to say turned you off of the game. It wasn't the art direction, it wasn't the theme, it wasn't the gameplay that you've yet to experience... it was tab targetting? Find something more petty to complain about.
I'll agree with you on space combat, though. That looks dumb.
From the very moment the CEO of Bioware announced they are going to focus on the 4th element of an MMORPG and he explained that to be the "story element" I knew this game is going to fail.
Maybe SW:TOR is going to be the last nail and the coffin will be sealed. Maybe just maybe from now on they will give the designing part of an MMORPG to someone who actually played a fucking real MMORPG (not a Quest Driven theme park crappy EQ2 and WoW shit we all got).
We need a visionary who knows that MMOs are about being in the world interacting with a community and it's really not about Quests on Rails or Stories. But who am I fooling we all know this is not going to happen and we will continue to watch MMORPGs flopping left and right for a long time.
Not once have they said its going to be innovative and new. They said its going to have an awesome story and solid gameplay mechanics. All of that wrapped up wrapped up in a Star Wars setting with a Bioware tag on the box. I'll take it
Thats like saying "well gee, WoWs last expansion didn't do anything innovative, so therefore it must suck, and it will clearly not have a following".
That's actually the consensus of a lot of people, especially since WoW seems to be losing subs faster than after any other expansion it's had...
There are a lot of people who are tired of the same old, and to many people, TOR seems to be shaping up as more of the same old with a marginally better story and lots of cutscenes. Whether or not that's enough to keep people happy remains to be seen.
Thread should have been called: "If I wanted to bash a game"
p.s. Swtor isn't just a load of instances. It is supposed to have around 16 totally open worlds, some of them as big as 7/8 WOW zones, mounts to get around in them and a ton of non storyline content in many different aspects as well.
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Meant to be? Nothing is meant to be, stop talking in imperative terms. You can have an oppinion, like or dislike something, but nothing should or shouldn't be somehow.
I to are scared of what will happen after this game, couse this game will have ALOT of followers no matter how bad it will be. I`t`s Star Wars after all, it could basicly have been ET(you now, one of the worst game ever made)with Voice Overs and it would still have had millions of players.
The market will ofcourse see this as a succses, and when they have done that we can kiss the living MMO-worlds goodbye and say hello to "MMO:s" that have more fluff and cutscenes then we could have ever belived.
Tab-to-target is gameplay. I don't wanna click on mobs to target them either; I want manual aiming. I want a real combat system, not just another lame RNG-fest.
Hence I will not be playing TOR; the combat gameplay looks atrocious.
Clearly you have no problem with a traditional RPG combat system. Good for you. You don't see me getting all butt hurt over what you like, do you?
Sheesh.