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Help: My roomies comp died.
We think it is the motherboard. It fires up, but the monitor does not respond, and neither does the keyboard. No green lights on the mobo, just yellow ones come on. It is a DFI Blood Iron P35 with and Intel CPU. I do not think they make this mobo any longer. What mobo is similar that we can use to replace this one? Anyone out there with comp knowledge that might be able to point us t o a replacement?
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If you fire up his pc and the monitor stays black then it could be a power supply problem...Personally it happened to me twice and both times it was because the power supply died on me, not sure what exactly happens in your case but it could be a possibility.
Well, unfortunately alot of hardware issues could be at play. Really the only way to spot off diagnose it as a mother board right now would be if you open the case and you see swollen or oozing capacitors.
Other than that it could literally be any other piece of hardware keeping it from POSTing. Could even be the power supply or dvd player.
I would recommend taking it to a computer shop and let them diagnose it. They will replace every component but the motherboard. They will even replace the sata or ide cables. If you replace everything but the mobo, then you know its the mobo. If it is the motherboard they might have one in stock they can swap for you.
Very first thing I would do is reseat the memory, video card, CPU, and any other pci devices plugged in.
Any beeping at all when you turn on the machine? What happened right before it would not work?
There are many decent replacements out there, that board uses pretty common hardware, check Newegg out. Look for LGA 775 socket boards
Too many possibilities,i would say if it actually does turn on and no smoke or smell of burnt out circuits,it is still working,just not booting up.There could be a simple solution like just a loose wire [ i had that problem several times].It could also be many other things like ram or vid card,or your bios or who knows what your friend was doing when it went out.
Take to a tech guy,good chance it still works.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
No beeps at all.
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138164
If it is the Motherboard then that one will be good since you can put DD3 memory in it if you wish.
Well yeah, I agree with everyone, it could be so many things.
For instance, I had an old Soundblaster X-Fi pci card in my computer up until a month ago. It worked fine for five years. Last month I was pulling the microphone jack out of the back out of it, and it just fried the card. My computer froze, then on restart got a malady of errors, blue screens and crashes. I did not think it was the sound card right away, thought it was my mobo or psu, or possibly a hard drive error (my boot drive is rather old too). Randomly decided to take the sound card out, computer booted up right away, no errors. Turned on the onboard sound, no problems since.
Unless you feel comfortable taking everything apart and trying to see what the cause is, I agree with previous posters it may be best to take to a tech shop and see if they can fix it. It really could be a ton of things.
OK. We located a couple of comp service centers in our area and I think we'll try and have one of them look it over. She doesn't know what went wrong. She came in this afternoon and it was off. She tried to turn it on and nothing. It doesn't recognize the keyboard, not the monitor. Mouse comes on though. No beeps though when we turn it on.
The odds of other components (Memory especially, CPU, etc) being affected are very high - especially if the power supply did go bad after all.
The motherboard is probably bad, but I would be surprised if that is the only thing that is bad. Of course, it could also just be that the internal speaker isn't hooked up and you can't hear the error code beeps as well.
start with trying another grafic card, different USB-slots for the keyboard or one of them old keyboard slots the purple one.
check all the cables and start replacing the hardware with hardware you know work. (if you have it lying around or borrow from a friend)
simple and fun troubleshooting
Thanks for the quick responses and help!
My initial opinion is a faulty power supply or motherboard. A faulty power supply may result also in other bad components if it didn't sacrifice itself to the gods of electricity and technology.
Standard troubleshooting:
Does the wall outlet work properly?
Is the surge protecter a good Name? or is it a cheap no-name extension cord that has the words surge protector printed on it.
Will the PC turn on if you bypass the surge protector?
Unplug ALL external PC peripherals except the keyboard and monitor and start the PC. Do you get anything on the monitor now?
Do the Num Lock, Caps Lock, and Scroll Lock keyboard lights flash like they are supposed to during the PC's startup? Do they light /unlight when you press those buttons?
Assuming there's a graphics card in use, have you tried the on-board graphics? Have you tried removing the graphics card?
If you're already in the PC's box, do any of the motherboard lights flash in a pattern? If so does the board's manufacturer have a flash code available?
If none of that corrects the issue, start unplugging internal drives, removing unnecessary cards.
And one suggestion not for the technically incompetent "don't do this at home" people that have to be told daily not to do stupid stuff. Try the power supply from a known working PC connected to ONLY the motherboard + keyboard + monitor setup.
It's not the power supply, the motherboard is fried. So we're shopping for a new board, cpu, and memory. She has a good vid card, and two - 1 terabyte HD's so these are not an issue.
Here is what we're looking at for replacement mobo and cpu.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.618348
and this memory
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231314
What do you all think?
Make sure there is enough room with that DrMOS heatsink for the CPU heatsink you choose. Otherwise, I'm envious.
Mobo that costs as much as the processor? idonthinksotim.
Now with 57.3% more flames!
The RAM is fine. I can't recommend anything but a Sandy Bridge CPU though for price/performance.
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115073
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128476
ah disregard
All 3 components are excellent. You can buy cheaper, but you aren't going to get anything any better for cheaper, at least on the AMD side, and you aren't wasting money on junky parts.
A Sandy Bridge system would be nice, I agree, but your looking at another $50-$100 on top of what this cost will be, plus motherboards are still spotty with regard to availability.
g.skill is awesome ram. Been using them for years now, actually just build a PC today with g.skill. timings and frequency set perfect on auto.
I will say, the motherboard you're purchasing wont achieve the 1600 unless its overclocked so dont freak when it registers at 1333
If you're going to spend enough to get a Sandy Bridge system, then you might as well get a Sandy Bridge system.
The only purpose of the 890FX chipset is CrossFire support. If you're running two AMD cards in CrossFire, then that can feed PCI Express x16 2.0 bandwidth to both cards at once. If you're not going to do that, then don't get a motherboard with an 890FX chipset.
If you do want an AMD system and aren't using two high end video cards in CrossFire, then you might as well save some money. A Phenom II X4 955 or 965 is much cheaper, and a motherboard with an AMD 870 chipset would be equivalent to that except for not properly supporting CrossFire.
The memory controller in a Deneb (most Phenom II X4s) only supports up to 1333 MHz memory. Realistically, you can overclock it to 1600 MHz and it will run just fine. But there's no point, as the processor isn't fast enough to make good use of the extra bandwidth. You might as well save some money and get 1333 MHz memory instead.
Hey all! Back again. Well it looks like we're doing a complete rebuild. We went ahead and decided to go with the Intel Sandy Bridge board. We got a new PS(750 Watt Corsair) and new memory as well(8 gig). Had to get a new SATA DVD/R/W Drive as well.
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115073
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128476
One thing though, her old video card is toast - we think. So we're going to get a new card and we were thinking of getting a
GIGABYTE GV-N460OC-1GI GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
What do you think?
I don't think it's terribly sensible for a single person to buy two parts from the Canadian site of New Egg, and one from the American site. Assuming you need the Canadian site:
You can get equivalent video card performance for considerably cheaper, with less power consumption and a better feature set:
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161348
Or if you do rebates, this version of a GeForce GTX 460 is basically equivalent to the one you picked and cheaper, and about as good of a deal as the Radeon HD 6850 that I linked above:
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814162055
If you're not going to overclock, then the processor is a good choice, and the motherboard should work just fine.
If you've already bought the power supply, then fine. Corsair makes at least four different 750 W power supplies, but they range from pretty good (TX) to really great (AX), so none of them will be a problem for you. If you haven't already bought it, then you can probably get something with plenty of power for your system much cheaper:
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207012
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371035
You're probably looking at 95 W for the processor, no more than 160 W for the video card, and a system that even under an artificial stress test, probably won't pull 300 W from the power supply.
Got the system up and running, new EVGA 460 1 gig vid card, new corsair PSU, new sandy bridge mobo and the Intel CPU is rock solid. Machine kicks arse! Thanks for all the help everyone - she is loving her new pute!