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  • JinxysJinxys Member UncommonPosts: 488

    Originally posted by DeathTouch

    You know i understood Xzen just fine, comming from the same field of work, but working in a hospital. It's funny how you all failed to undertsand him/her and are taking your anger/frustrations out on him/her out of your own ignorance. West Corp. in Omaha NE runs off of diesel engine 100% of the time, the power companies are the backup system. Co Sentry a hosting company in Omaha runs on diesel engines 100% of the time, the power companies are the backup system. He was making a simple point on companies that should know better when it comes to natural disasters. So why dont you all take your anger and stuff it back where the sun dont shine and read what he/she actually said, with some knowledge of how the people in the IT field deal with natural disasters.

    On the note of Japan, I myself will talk to my company about what i can do about my contract at the hospital as i would like to join a relief group in japan.  For now i'm looking into getting a fund setup here in the farmer community to help out.

     

    If any folks from Japan check out the forums and run across this post, many a friend's, family's, and my heart go out to you and yours.

    Well good for you. But he/she did come off sounding very insensitive and ignorant, considering what has happened.

  • XzenXzen Member UncommonPosts: 2,607

    Originally posted by Tardcore

    Originally posted by Xzen


    Originally posted by JeroKane


    Originally posted by Xzen


    Originally posted by WSIMike


    Originally posted by Xzen


    Originally posted by WSIMike


    Originally posted by Xzen

    First off we are talking about a large company here not the Japanese people. As a professional working in the IT and telecom industry this is just a sad excuse to mask their incompetence. Anyone working in the industry knows that if your a big company like SE you should have back up systems and fail safes in place to make sure the service you are providing doesn't go down for prolonged periods. Even though I do see this as evidence that SE really is incompetent I'm not "angry" at SE or leaving the game. They just need to start making better choices. Time to put your big boy pants on SE.

     

    P.S. My best wishes and prayers to the Japanese people.

    ... unbelievable.

    Yes, because being an "IT professional" totally prepares you for how to deal with a 8.9 earthquake, multiple aftershocks no lower than 5.9, followed by a tsunami that destroys a huge portion of the region right? Being an IT professional prepares you for the side-effects that impact the entire region, not only the areas directly affected, right?

    You do realize we're talking about a major cataclysmic event that struck Japan and has effected everyone in the region, not some minor inconvenient flooding due to heavy rainfall, right?

    They've been frigging devastated over there.

    While it might be difficult for some folks elsewhere in the world to comprehend this: A state of emergency in Japan > People being able to play a fucking video game.

    What the hell is wrong with some of you people?

    There are parts of the world that do not get hit by natural disasters. Yes there are companies that take such things into consideration. Again. We are talking about a large company. Not the Japanese or Japan. I've got hundreds of games I can go play or books I can read so the fact that their servers are down doesn't really bother me. Just simply pointing out the facts as they are.

    I say it again... We're not talking about a minor setback here. We're talking about a major catastrophy over there.

    Try watching the news sometime.

    I do watch the news and have been reading up on the current events over there. Who says their back ups and fail safes need to be over there.

    LOL! Are you that DAFT??  Go hide in a corner and don't show yourself until you have grown an extra braincell... or two!

    3 Nuclear Powerplants in Japan are nearing a meltdown!  You have any friggin' clue what that means?? DO YOU!!!!

    Appearently not.  So take a hike and go hide in that corner I just put you in, stay there and don't show yourself around here anymore.

     

     

    My god! Some people are really unbelievably s t u p i d !

    Yes. If they melt down that would be a global catastrophe. Again we are talking about seperate issues.

    Well no, we aren't. By your logic they should have built those reactors in some other safer country. But I guess you don't give a crap about technology that when it goes wrong can lay waste to huge tracts of land, but only care about your digital pacifier video games. When Silicon Valley finally goes down the pipe thanks to the Hayward Fault Zone can I call you up and bitch about how one of my whiz bang mindless fun toys is effected instead of being concerned about the thousands or even millions of lives that are damaged by that catastrophy?

    You have a point. They probably shouldn't have built their reactors where they did. Again I'm not really all that effected by or care that FFXIV is down at the moment. If you had my phone number and wanted to talk to me about Silicon valley being leveled and all the tech was gone I'd have a conversation with you about it. If you wanted to talk about the devastation done by the "catastrophy" I'd talk about that. What I wouldn't do is attack you for talking about one or the other.

  • DeathTouchDeathTouch Member UncommonPosts: 508

    Originally posted by manaia36

    Originally posted by DeathTouch

    You know i understood Xzen just fine, comming from the same field of work, but working in a hospital. It's funny how you all failed to undertsand him/her and are taking your anger/frustrations out on him/her out of your own ignorance. West Corp. in Omaha NE runs off of diesel engine 100% of the time, the power companies are the backup system. Co Sentry a hosting company in Omaha runs on diesel engines 100% of the time, the power companies are the backup system. He was making a simple point on companies that should know better when it comes to natural disasters. So why dont you all take your anger and stuff it back where the sun dont shine and read what he/she actually said, with some knowledge of how the people in the IT field deal with natural disasters.

    On the note of Japan, I myself will talk to my company about what i can do about my contract at the hospital as i would like to join a relief group in japan.  For now i'm looking into getting a fund setup here in the farmer community to help out.

     

    If any folks from Japan check out the forums and run across this post, many a friend's, family's, and my heart go out to you and yours.

    Well good for you. But he/she did come off sounding very insensitive and ignorant, considering what has happened.

    i didnt get that, but i did from the people who replied to his/her posts. especially all the lame ass jokes about FFIV. its also funny the same idiots who attacked him thought he was even talking about the game, when he said the company SE. people need to learn to read.

     

    edit: go ahead and report this post, ill be glad for the warning or ban. Fing morons

  • IrishoakIrishoak Member Posts: 633

    Originally posted by DeathTouch

    You know i understood Xzen just fine, comming from the same field of work, but working in a hospital. It's funny how you all failed to undertsand him/her and are taking your anger/frustrations out on him/her out of your own ignorance. West Corp. in Omaha NE runs off of diesel engine 100% of the time, the power companies are the backup system. Co Sentry a hosting company in Omaha runs on diesel engines 100% of the time, the power companies are the backup system. He was making a simple point on companies that should know better when it comes to natural disasters. So why dont you all take your anger and stuff it back where the sun dont shine and read what he/she actually said, with some knowledge of how the people in the IT field deal with natural disasters.

    On the note of Japan, I myself will talk to my company about what i can do about my contract at the hospital as i would like to join a relief group in japan.  For now i'm looking into getting a fund setup here in the farmer community to help out.

     

    If any folks from Japan check out the forums and run across this post, many a friend's, family's, and my heart go out to you and yours.

    Seriously, thousands are dead, whole cities are washed fromt he face of the earth and you expect us to find the logic in this kids trainwreck? He's upset he can't play a video game for a week.

  • Pro-PainPro-Pain Member Posts: 141

    Originally posted by mrcalhou

    Originally posted by Pro-Pain

    Originally posted by WSIMike

    ... unbelievable.

    Yes, because being an "IT professional" totally prepares you for how to deal with a 8.9 earthquake - the largest in modern recorded history - multiple aftershocks no lower than 5.9, followed by a tsunami that destroys a huge portion of the region right? Being an IT professional prepares you for the side-effects that impact the entire region, not only the areas directly affected, right?

     I truly want to stay out of this conversation and hope I don't come off as douchy or anything but I feel the need to change your incorrect / incomplete fact.  This was the largest recorded earthquake in japan, and the 5th or 7th largest ever recorded in the whole world ( I've read and heard both).  Just wanted to get that out there for the sake of clarity.

    There's need to be a correction to your correction. It was the largest earthquake in Japan since they began recording the strength of earthquakes. There's no telling if there has been larger earthquakes, in terms of strength or energy released since there is no data to support that. Remember, the Japanese used to, and still do in some cases, build houses out of wood and paper. So that when there are earthquakes the collapse of buildings doesn't cause too much harm. Earthquakes have a been a problem for japanese civilization for over a millenia.

     Thank you for the correction i changed mine accordingly.  Anyways good luck to the japanese.

    the struggle to free myself from restraints becomes my very shackles

  • DeathTouchDeathTouch Member UncommonPosts: 508

    Originally posted by Irishoak

    Originally posted by DeathTouch

    You know i understood Xzen just fine, comming from the same field of work, but working in a hospital. It's funny how you all failed to undertsand him/her and are taking your anger/frustrations out on him/her out of your own ignorance. West Corp. in Omaha NE runs off of diesel engine 100% of the time, the power companies are the backup system. Co Sentry a hosting company in Omaha runs on diesel engines 100% of the time, the power companies are the backup system. He was making a simple point on companies that should know better when it comes to natural disasters. So why dont you all take your anger and stuff it back where the sun dont shine and read what he/she actually said, with some knowledge of how the people in the IT field deal with natural disasters.

    On the note of Japan, I myself will talk to my company about what i can do about my contract at the hospital as i would like to join a relief group in japan.  For now i'm looking into getting a fund setup here in the farmer community to help out.

     

    If any folks from Japan check out the forums and run across this post, many a friend's, family's, and my heart go out to you and yours.

    Seriously, thousands are dead, whole cities are washed fromt he face of the earth and you expect us to find the logic in this kids trainwreck? He's upset he can't play a video game for a week.

    please point to where he said he cant play.

  • XzenXzen Member UncommonPosts: 2,607

    Originally posted by manaia36

    Originally posted by DeathTouch

    You know i understood Xzen just fine, comming from the same field of work, but working in a hospital. It's funny how you all failed to undertsand him/her and are taking your anger/frustrations out on him/her out of your own ignorance. West Corp. in Omaha NE runs off of diesel engine 100% of the time, the power companies are the backup system. Co Sentry a hosting company in Omaha runs on diesel engines 100% of the time, the power companies are the backup system. He was making a simple point on companies that should know better when it comes to natural disasters. So why dont you all take your anger and stuff it back where the sun dont shine and read what he/she actually said, with some knowledge of how the people in the IT field deal with natural disasters.

    On the note of Japan, I myself will talk to my company about what i can do about my contract at the hospital as i would like to join a relief group in japan.  For now i'm looking into getting a fund setup here in the farmer community to help out.

     

    If any folks from Japan check out the forums and run across this post, many a friend's, family's, and my heart go out to you and yours.

    Well good for you. But he/she did come off sounding very insensitive and ignorant, considering what has happened.

    1) I'm glad some one gets what I was saying.

    2) I admit I used some strong language in my first post and appologise for that.

  • PyrostasisPyrostasis Member UncommonPosts: 2,293

    Originally posted by manaia36

    Originally posted by Xzen

    First off we are talking about a large company here not the Japanese people. As a professional working in the IT and telecom industry this is just a sad excuse to mask their incompetence. Anyone working in the industry knows that if your a big company like SE you should have back up systems and fail safes in place to make sure the service you are providing doesn't go down for prolonged periods. Even though I do see this as evidence that SE really is incompetent I'm not "angry" at SE or leaving the game. They just need to start making better choices. Time to put your big boy pants on SE.

     

    P.S. My best wishes and prayers to the Japanese people.

    You disgust me to the core :/

    He makes you sick because he's saying something most networking professionals are taught from the beginning? Its called redundancy and any time you are dealing with hundreds of thousands of people accessing your product, servers, website, etc you stack on redundancy like crazy.

    Most companies big internet companies have their main site, and at least one major off site backup they can fall back on based on power outages, natural disasters, etc. Yes there is someone who does get paid to think about tsunamis, earth quakes, tornados, and other "acts of god".

    I understand you feel bad for japan, as all of us do, however, there's nothing wrong with pointing out that SE put all of its eggs in one basket. They could have easily had a few backup servers in a datacenter in the U.S. or U.K..

    Sadly due to this disaster, and coming extended downtime, their user base will suffer more permanent losses.

  • XzenXzen Member UncommonPosts: 2,607

    Originally posted by Irishoak

    Originally posted by DeathTouch

    You know i understood Xzen just fine, comming from the same field of work, but working in a hospital. It's funny how you all failed to undertsand him/her and are taking your anger/frustrations out on him/her out of your own ignorance. West Corp. in Omaha NE runs off of diesel engine 100% of the time, the power companies are the backup system. Co Sentry a hosting company in Omaha runs on diesel engines 100% of the time, the power companies are the backup system. He was making a simple point on companies that should know better when it comes to natural disasters. So why dont you all take your anger and stuff it back where the sun dont shine and read what he/she actually said, with some knowledge of how the people in the IT field deal with natural disasters.

    On the note of Japan, I myself will talk to my company about what i can do about my contract at the hospital as i would like to join a relief group in japan.  For now i'm looking into getting a fund setup here in the farmer community to help out.

     

    If any folks from Japan check out the forums and run across this post, many a friend's, family's, and my heart go out to you and yours.

    Seriously, thousands are dead, whole cities are washed fromt he face of the earth and you expect us to find the logic in this kids trainwreck? He's upset he can't play a video game for a week.

    Again... I could careless if I can't play FFXIV for a week. I'm pretty sure I've mentioned that several times.

  • duelkoreduelkore Member Posts: 228

    The one thing that does suck about being an IT professional working for hospitals is this.  In times of emergency I gotta sleep in the hospital itself for a week straight.  In a hospital bed without going home to take care of my pets or wack off in peace.   Thanks the gods you are not in the IT department of a hospital in japan right now.

    I have the upmost confidence that no matter what happens to the nuclear electrical plants, Japan will come out stronger then the rest of the world would.  

  • IrishoakIrishoak Member Posts: 633

    Originally posted by Pyrostasis

    Originally posted by manaia36


    Originally posted by Xzen

    First off we are talking about a large company here not the Japanese people. As a professional working in the IT and telecom industry this is just a sad excuse to mask their incompetence. Anyone working in the industry knows that if your a big company like SE you should have back up systems and fail safes in place to make sure the service you are providing doesn't go down for prolonged periods. Even though I do see this as evidence that SE really is incompetent I'm not "angry" at SE or leaving the game. They just need to start making better choices. Time to put your big boy pants on SE.

     

    P.S. My best wishes and prayers to the Japanese people.

    You disgust me to the core :/

    He makes you sick because he's saying something most networking professionals are taught from the beginning? Its called redundancy and any time you are dealing with hundreds of thousands of people accessing your product, servers, website, etc you stack on redundancy like crazy.

    Most companies big internet companies have their main site, and at least one major off site backup they can fall back on based on power outages, natural disasters, etc. Yes there is someone who does get paid to think about tsunamis, earth quakes, tornados, and other "acts of god".

    I understand you feel bad for japan, as all of us do, however, there's nothing wrong with pointing out that SE put all of its eggs in one basket. They could have easily had a few backup servers in a datacenter in the U.S. or U.K..

    Sadly due to this disaster, and coming extended downtime, their user base will suffer more permanent losses.

    This is not an example of bad IT, this is an example of a national disaster. To sit in the comfort of your own home and blabber about bad policy choices a company made by having their network located in their own nation... you know what, there is a certain level of stupid I can't even stomach. This isn't discourse, it's children wanting to be right about something meaningless.

  • CecropiaCecropia Member RarePosts: 3,985

    We have now entered............

    "Mr. Rothstein, your people never will understand... the way it works out here. You're all just our guests. But you act like you're at home. Let me tell you something, partner. You ain't home. But that's where we're gonna send you if it harelips the governor." - Pat Webb

  • DeathTouchDeathTouch Member UncommonPosts: 508

    Originally posted by duelkore

    The one thing that does suck about being an IT professional working for hospitals is this.  In times of emergency I gotta sleep in the hospital itself for a week straight.  In a hospital bed without going home to take care of my pets or wack off in peace.   Thanks the gods you are not in the IT department of a hospital in japan right now.

    I have the upmost confidence that no matter what happens to the nuclear electrical plants, Japan will come out stronger then the rest of the world would.  

    This is exactly why i want to go over and assist. my family is safe at home right now. i want to give the people of japan the ability to go home and make sure their family is safe. its something i would do for food in my belly and a roof over my head for as long as they wanted me.

  • PyrostasisPyrostasis Member UncommonPosts: 2,293

    Originally posted by Irishoak

    Originally posted by Pyrostasis


    Originally posted by manaia36


    Originally posted by Xzen

    First off we are talking about a large company here not the Japanese people. As a professional working in the IT and telecom industry this is just a sad excuse to mask their incompetence. Anyone working in the industry knows that if your a big company like SE you should have back up systems and fail safes in place to make sure the service you are providing doesn't go down for prolonged periods. Even though I do see this as evidence that SE really is incompetent I'm not "angry" at SE or leaving the game. They just need to start making better choices. Time to put your big boy pants on SE.

     

    P.S. My best wishes and prayers to the Japanese people.

    You disgust me to the core :/

    He makes you sick because he's saying something most networking professionals are taught from the beginning? Its called redundancy and any time you are dealing with hundreds of thousands of people accessing your product, servers, website, etc you stack on redundancy like crazy.

    Most companies big internet companies have their main site, and at least one major off site backup they can fall back on based on power outages, natural disasters, etc. Yes there is someone who does get paid to think about tsunamis, earth quakes, tornados, and other "acts of god".

    I understand you feel bad for japan, as all of us do, however, there's nothing wrong with pointing out that SE put all of its eggs in one basket. They could have easily had a few backup servers in a datacenter in the U.S. or U.K..

    Sadly due to this disaster, and coming extended downtime, their user base will suffer more permanent losses.

    This is not an example of bad IT, this is an example of a national disaster. To sit in the comfort of your own home and blabber about bad policy choices a company made by having their network located in their own nation... you know what, there is a certain level of stupid I can't even stomach. This isn't discourse, it's children wanting to be right about something meaningless.

    No this is adults that work in the IT industry that deal with these issues and are responsible for maintaining uptime during them. Clients of major business providers while sympathetic to natural disasters are concerned with their bottom line. Which is exactly why you always have a remote site no where near your main site.

    At most a 24 hour downtime should be all they have to deal with while they mirror servers to their offsite backups. A week is bad business.

    Sorry your stomach isnt up to it, but welcome to business in 2011.

  • DeathTouchDeathTouch Member UncommonPosts: 508

    Originally posted by Irishoak

    Originally posted by DeathTouch


    Originally posted by Irishoak


    Originally posted by DeathTouch


    Originally posted by Irishoak


    Originally posted by DeathTouch

    You know i understood Xzen just fine, comming from the same field of work, but working in a hospital. It's funny how you all failed to undertsand him/her and are taking your anger/frustrations out on him/her out of your own ignorance. West Corp. in Omaha NE runs off of diesel engine 100% of the time, the power companies are the backup system. Co Sentry a hosting company in Omaha runs on diesel engines 100% of the time, the power companies are the backup system. He was making a simple point on companies that should know better when it comes to natural disasters. So why dont you all take your anger and stuff it back where the sun dont shine and read what he/she actually said, with some knowledge of how the people in the IT field deal with natural disasters.

    On the note of Japan, I myself will talk to my company about what i can do about my contract at the hospital as i would like to join a relief group in japan.  For now i'm looking into getting a fund setup here in the farmer community to help out.

     

    If any folks from Japan check out the forums and run across this post, many a friend's, family's, and my heart go out to you and yours.

    Seriously, thousands are dead, whole cities are washed fromt he face of the earth and you expect us to find the logic in this kids trainwreck? He's upset he can't play a video game for a week.

    please point to where he said he cant play.

    I hope you and he both suffer one millionth the pain Japan has suffered this last week. You want to parse english about this to win on the forum, seriously, they can't make a cancer bad enough for you two.

    your english is just fine, your understanding of english is your problem, you wishing harm on others is your problem. other wise have a nice day not understanding that his post had nothing to do with the tradegy that was a major natural disaster, but a failing in a company's ability to handle a natural disaster.

    I don't think I've been clear enough on this point, you're sub-human to me. Your opine is worthless, have your last word and we'll retend I never even spoke to you. To be perfectly clear on this, so there is no mistaking my intent, I hope you suffer. Thanks in advance.

    in the words of Bill Engvall - Here's Your Sign.




     



  • IrishoakIrishoak Member Posts: 633

    Originally posted by Pyrostasis

    Originally posted by Irishoak


    Originally posted by Pyrostasis


    Originally posted by manaia36


    Originally posted by Xzen

    First off we are talking about a large company here not the Japanese people. As a professional working in the IT and telecom industry this is just a sad excuse to mask their incompetence. Anyone working in the industry knows that if your a big company like SE you should have back up systems and fail safes in place to make sure the service you are providing doesn't go down for prolonged periods. Even though I do see this as evidence that SE really is incompetent I'm not "angry" at SE or leaving the game. They just need to start making better choices. Time to put your big boy pants on SE.

     

    P.S. My best wishes and prayers to the Japanese people.

    You disgust me to the core :/

    He makes you sick because he's saying something most networking professionals are taught from the beginning? Its called redundancy and any time you are dealing with hundreds of thousands of people accessing your product, servers, website, etc you stack on redundancy like crazy.

    Most companies big internet companies have their main site, and at least one major off site backup they can fall back on based on power outages, natural disasters, etc. Yes there is someone who does get paid to think about tsunamis, earth quakes, tornados, and other "acts of god".

    I understand you feel bad for japan, as all of us do, however, there's nothing wrong with pointing out that SE put all of its eggs in one basket. They could have easily had a few backup servers in a datacenter in the U.S. or U.K..

    Sadly due to this disaster, and coming extended downtime, their user base will suffer more permanent losses.

    This is not an example of bad IT, this is an example of a national disaster. To sit in the comfort of your own home and blabber about bad policy choices a company made by having their network located in their own nation... you know what, there is a certain level of stupid I can't even stomach. This isn't discourse, it's children wanting to be right about something meaningless.

    No this is adults that work in the IT industry that deal with these issues and are responsible for maintaining uptime during them. Clients of major business providers while sympathetic to natural disasters are concerned with their bottom line. Which is exactly why you always have a remote site no where near your main site.

    At most a 24 hour downtime should be all they have to deal with while they mirror servers to their offsite backups. A week is bad business.

    Sorry your stomach isnt up to it, but welcome to business in 2011.

    Says a nobody, on a forum. My eyes are doing barrel rolls.

  • PyrostasisPyrostasis Member UncommonPosts: 2,293

    I do find it funny that the "Compasionate" people are the ones wishing death on those they disagree with. While the "haters" are being rational.

    Go figure.

  • DeathTouchDeathTouch Member UncommonPosts: 508

    Originally posted by Irishoak

    Originally posted by DeathTouch


    Originally posted by Irishoak


    Originally posted by DeathTouch


    Originally posted by Irishoak


    Originally posted by DeathTouch


    Originally posted by Irishoak


    Originally posted by DeathTouch

    You know i understood Xzen just fine, comming from the same field of work, but working in a hospital. It's funny how you all failed to undertsand him/her and are taking your anger/frustrations out on him/her out of your own ignorance. West Corp. in Omaha NE runs off of diesel engine 100% of the time, the power companies are the backup system. Co Sentry a hosting company in Omaha runs on diesel engines 100% of the time, the power companies are the backup system. He was making a simple point on companies that should know better when it comes to natural disasters. So why dont you all take your anger and stuff it back where the sun dont shine and read what he/she actually said, with some knowledge of how the people in the IT field deal with natural disasters.

    On the note of Japan, I myself will talk to my company about what i can do about my contract at the hospital as i would like to join a relief group in japan.  For now i'm looking into getting a fund setup here in the farmer community to help out.

     

    If any folks from Japan check out the forums and run across this post, many a friend's, family's, and my heart go out to you and yours.

    Seriously, thousands are dead, whole cities are washed fromt he face of the earth and you expect us to find the logic in this kids trainwreck? He's upset he can't play a video game for a week.

    please point to where he said he cant play.

    I hope you and he both suffer one millionth the pain Japan has suffered this last week. You want to parse english about this to win on the forum, seriously, they can't make a cancer bad enough for you two.

    your english is just fine, your understanding of english is your problem, you wishing harm on others is your problem. other wise have a nice day not understanding that his post had nothing to do with the tradegy that was a major natural disaster, but a failing in a company's ability to handle a natural disaster.

    I don't think I've been clear enough on this point, you're sub-human to me. Your opine is worthless, have your last word and we'll retend I never even spoke to you. To be perfectly clear on this, so there is no mistaking my intent, I hope you suffer. Thanks in advance.

    in the words of Bill Engvall - Here's Your Sign.





     




    Sorry don't click on random links from random people.

    ROFL!!! Hover your mouse over the link, it aint random, its youtube. Proving my point about you 100 fold.

  • LexinLexin Member UncommonPosts: 701

    Originally posted by Pyrostasis

    Originally posted by Irishoak


    Originally posted by Pyrostasis


    Originally posted by manaia36


    Originally posted by Xzen

    First off we are talking about a large company here not the Japanese people. As a professional working in the IT and telecom industry this is just a sad excuse to mask their incompetence. Anyone working in the industry knows that if your a big company like SE you should have back up systems and fail safes in place to make sure the service you are providing doesn't go down for prolonged periods. Even though I do see this as evidence that SE really is incompetent I'm not "angry" at SE or leaving the game. They just need to start making better choices. Time to put your big boy pants on SE.

     

    P.S. My best wishes and prayers to the Japanese people.

    You disgust me to the core :/

    He makes you sick because he's saying something most networking professionals are taught from the beginning? Its called redundancy and any time you are dealing with hundreds of thousands of people accessing your product, servers, website, etc you stack on redundancy like crazy.

    Most companies big internet companies have their main site, and at least one major off site backup they can fall back on based on power outages, natural disasters, etc. Yes there is someone who does get paid to think about tsunamis, earth quakes, tornados, and other "acts of god".

    I understand you feel bad for japan, as all of us do, however, there's nothing wrong with pointing out that SE put all of its eggs in one basket. They could have easily had a few backup servers in a datacenter in the U.S. or U.K..

    Sadly due to this disaster, and coming extended downtime, their user base will suffer more permanent losses.

    This is not an example of bad IT, this is an example of a national disaster. To sit in the comfort of your own home and blabber about bad policy choices a company made by having their network located in their own nation... you know what, there is a certain level of stupid I can't even stomach. This isn't discourse, it's children wanting to be right about something meaningless.

    No this is adults that work in the IT industry that deal with these issues and are responsible for maintaining uptime during them. Clients of major business providers while sympathetic to natural disasters are concerned with their bottom line. Which is exactly why you always have a remote site no where near your main site.

    At most a 24 hour downtime should be all they have to deal with while they mirror servers to their offsite backups. A week is bad business.

    Sorry your stomach isnt up to it, but welcome to business in 2011.

    Well guess clients of Sony, Toyota, Mitsubishi, and all other Japanese companies are going to be livid since guess what they shutdown in some cases completely.

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  • DeivosDeivos Member EpicPosts: 3,692

    Who's to say they didn't have a backup that got wiped out too given it could just have easily (and honestly, more likely) been in Japan as well?

     

    Keeping a local backup so that the servers don't have a random leap or change in connectivity. They could have backup offsite or internationally for other service aspects, but when dealing with users you'd want a certain degree of reliability and routine to the response time and function of a service.

     

    Running Power to a backup. All well and good so long as the power suppliers aren't destroyed too. Aside from that, running power to non essential services while the nation is dealing with the loss of main power generators, some are likely all ready using backups, and others that may have just been outright severed?

    God forbid a company takes a stance of responsibility over fiscal quota and not waste extra energy via main or backup so they can help out others that are presently worse off.

     

    There's nothing wrong with pointing out a flaw in the system, but there is plenty wrong with unconfirmed speculation on the status and nature of things.

     

    They said this.

    '... the power companies in Japan have encouraged everyone to cooperate by conserving as much energy as possible as it is feared there will not be enough power supply. Based on the current situation, we have decided to shut down the game servers temporarily...'

     

    You know what that means? It's not talking about min or backup power, it's talking about consertavtion of what they've got. They're missing multiple energy sources right now, a couple of which are venting toxic. They aren't stopping their services because they can't support it. They're stopping it because they don't want to be an unnecessary burden on their own people.

     

    And I'm guessing that's why people are calling the ones talking about redundancy, as if that were the issue, 'horrible people'.

    "The knowledge of the theory of logic has no tendency whatever to make men good reasoners." - Thomas B. Macaulay

    "The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge." - Daniel J. Boorstin

  • XzenXzen Member UncommonPosts: 2,607

    Originally posted by Irishoak

    Originally posted by Xzen


    Originally posted by Irishoak


    Originally posted by DeathTouch


    Originally posted by Irishoak


    Originally posted by DeathTouch

    You know i understood Xzen just fine, comming from the same field of work, but working in a hospital. It's funny how you all failed to undertsand him/her and are taking your anger/frustrations out on him/her out of your own ignorance. West Corp. in Omaha NE runs off of diesel engine 100% of the time, the power companies are the backup system. Co Sentry a hosting company in Omaha runs on diesel engines 100% of the time, the power companies are the backup system. He was making a simple point on companies that should know better when it comes to natural disasters. So why dont you all take your anger and stuff it back where the sun dont shine and read what he/she actually said, with some knowledge of how the people in the IT field deal with natural disasters.

    On the note of Japan, I myself will talk to my company about what i can do about my contract at the hospital as i would like to join a relief group in japan.  For now i'm looking into getting a fund setup here in the farmer community to help out.

     

    If any folks from Japan check out the forums and run across this post, many a friend's, family's, and my heart go out to you and yours.

    Seriously, thousands are dead, whole cities are washed fromt he face of the earth and you expect us to find the logic in this kids trainwreck? He's upset he can't play a video game for a week.

    please point to where he said he cant play.

    I hope you and he both suffer one millionth the pain Japan has suffered this last week. You want to parse english about this to win on the forum, seriously, they can't make a cancer bad enough for you two.

    The only person filled with hate and desserves to reap it's consequences is you my friend. I wouldn't wish the loss of a family member, friend, or child on my worst enemy.

    You're not my worst enemy, you're a random on the internet, but all the same you're so self-centered and naive I will make the effort to wish you ill. You will never learn so you may as well provide example for those who can. Don't act like you're taking some higher road, you're a sad little person and will always think of you first. Also, you bitched about me saying you couldn't play then responded with a fantasy post that isn't even a paraphrase of what my two sentences contained. 

    I wish you the best regardless of how much you might hate me. I learn all the time. It's actually a hobby of mine. Actually my family comes first not me. I never complained about not being able to play.

  • DeathTouchDeathTouch Member UncommonPosts: 508

    Originally posted by Pyrostasis

    I do find it funny that the "Compasionate" people are the ones wishing death on those they disagree with. While the "haters" are being rational.

    Go figure.

    I was taught a long time ago, "You cant argue with stupid." there is more to the saying but that's all that needs to be said at the moment.

  • IrishoakIrishoak Member Posts: 633

    Originally posted by DeathTouch

    ROFL!!! Hover your mouse over the link, it aint random, its youtube. Proving my point about you 100 fold.

     

    That is a better last words, I know what it is, I'm saying you're not worth the effort of a link. Last words, kid, not last video link.  I'll just pretend I didn't have to explain something so simple and this post didn't happen so you can have the last word and chalk this up as a great internet victory.

  • IrishoakIrishoak Member Posts: 633

    Originally posted by Xzen

    Originally posted by Irishoak


    Originally posted by Xzen


    Originally posted by Irishoak


    Originally posted by DeathTouch


    Originally posted by Irishoak


    Originally posted by DeathTouch

    You know i understood Xzen just fine, comming from the same field of work, but working in a hospital. It's funny how you all failed to undertsand him/her and are taking your anger/frustrations out on him/her out of your own ignorance. West Corp. in Omaha NE runs off of diesel engine 100% of the time, the power companies are the backup system. Co Sentry a hosting company in Omaha runs on diesel engines 100% of the time, the power companies are the backup system. He was making a simple point on companies that should know better when it comes to natural disasters. So why dont you all take your anger and stuff it back where the sun dont shine and read what he/she actually said, with some knowledge of how the people in the IT field deal with natural disasters.

    On the note of Japan, I myself will talk to my company about what i can do about my contract at the hospital as i would like to join a relief group in japan.  For now i'm looking into getting a fund setup here in the farmer community to help out.

     

    If any folks from Japan check out the forums and run across this post, many a friend's, family's, and my heart go out to you and yours.

    Seriously, thousands are dead, whole cities are washed fromt he face of the earth and you expect us to find the logic in this kids trainwreck? He's upset he can't play a video game for a week.

    please point to where he said he cant play.

    I hope you and he both suffer one millionth the pain Japan has suffered this last week. You want to parse english about this to win on the forum, seriously, they can't make a cancer bad enough for you two.

    The only person filled with hate and desserves to reap it's consequences is you my friend. I wouldn't wish the loss of a family member, friend, or child on my worst enemy.

    You're not my worst enemy, you're a random on the internet, but all the same you're so self-centered and naive I will make the effort to wish you ill. You will never learn so you may as well provide example for those who can. Don't act like you're taking some higher road, you're a sad little person and will always think of you first. Also, you bitched about me saying you couldn't play then responded with a fantasy post that isn't even a paraphrase of what my two sentences contained. 

    I wish you the best regardless of how much you might hate me. I learn all the time. It's actually a hobby of mine. Actually my family comes first not me. I never complained about not being able to play.

    Again, I retract my statement about you not playing. You are an even worse person for it now. You have no vested interest in it yet you still find time to complain about it while thousands suffer. Super win, champ.

  • FoomerangFoomerang Member UncommonPosts: 5,628

    Ugh. This has nothing to do with SE not having backups. The Japanese government needs power for more important things than game servers right now. You know, stuff like hospitals and temporary shelters, heat, water. Seriously, read WHY they are shutting down their servers. It is to help people that are dying and in need of basic human necessities.

    Please lock this thread. The ignorance here is beyond ugly.

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