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New rig, help needed please

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  • jpnolejpnole Member UncommonPosts: 1,696

    Be prepared to be bombarded by posters saying "you shouldn't have this", "I'd do that" or "You should build it yourself". I won't do that to you though. You have found two computers that you are interested in and I will tell you which one is the best for gaming out of the two. The answer is the AMD with the GTX 460 card. While the AMD vs the Core I7 isn't so much the comparison here, the I7 build has a wimpier GT 430.

     

    So if these are the two you've decided on then get the AMD with the GTX460. It's cheaper (mostly because of the over priced intel I7) and has more sleek looking case as well. Just add another 4 GB ram when you are able to.... but you'll be OK for now.

    Edit: Welcome to the forums Savo!!!!

  • tavoctavoc Member UncommonPosts: 257

    Tough call realy.. both computers are definately good rigs for gameing, but realy it comes down the the cards and the processers.. for me i would take the i7 porc because well.. i love mine.. ever since i got it i cant look at other procs expecialy amd.. but the card with the set up with the i7 is severely lacking compared to the amd machine.. gt430 is nothing compared to that sexy gtx460.

    Personaly, i would tkae the g3 pc over the amd 6. case is also better in the g3 i think. would just upgrade the graph card later on.

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  • jpnolejpnole Member UncommonPosts: 1,696

    Originally posted by tavoc

    Tough call realy.. both computers are definately good rigs for gameing, but realy it comes down the the cards and the processers.. for me i would take the i7 porc because well.. i love mine.. ever since i got it i cant look at other procs expecialy amd.. but the card with the set up with the i7 is severely lacking compared to the amd machine.. gt430 is nothing compared to that sexy gtx460.

    Personaly, i would tkae the g3 pc over the amd 6. case is also better in the g3 i think. would just upgrade the graph card later on.

     Man don't tell the poor OP to get the more expensive machine with the weaker GPU AND to replace the GPU!!!! The OP is looking for the best gaming rig of the two. Go with the AMD/GTX460!!!!! Intel proc is not enough to justify throwing out the weak GPU and replacing it. That AMD proc is easily 90-95% of the processor that the Intel I7 is but at less cost... which is what AMD does - gives you value. I've had a great experience with my custom build AMD. But seriously though, the AMD rig in this case is the better gaming rig out of the box due to the GTX 460. Swap the two cards and I'd happliy tell the OP to get the Intel.... but alas it has a weak GT 430.

  • tuzalovtuzalov Member Posts: 183

    lol they suck heres a better one for  £ 595.76  inc VAT that computer is wayyyy better compared to those two.

    This is from http://www.computerplanet.co.uk

    They also got free delivery.

    Quote number is 153185 you could add another 4gbs of ram sometime later and youll be rockin.


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    Computer Case

    Black ATX Tower Case

     

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    CPU

    AMD Phenom II X2 560 (2 x 3.3 GHz) AM3 7MB - Black Edition

     

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    CPU Heatsink

    Arctic Cooling Freezer 13 - Silent

     

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    Memory

    Corsair 4GB XMS3 PC3-12800 1600MHz (1x4GB) - Lifetime Warranty (DDR3)

     

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    Graphics Card

    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460 - 2 GB - (PALIT)

     

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    Motherboard

    Asus M4A89GTD PRO (AMD 890GX)

     

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    Sound Card

    Motherboard Integrated HD Sound

     

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    Networking

    Motherboard Integrated Ethernet Lan (Broadband Ready)

     

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    USB Ports

    Motherboard Integrated USB Ports

     

    image

    Power Supply

    Corsair Gaming Series 600W PSU - Low Noise

     

    image

    Case Wiring

    Professional Standard

     

    image

    Hard Drive #1

    80 GB SATA-II HDD 7200 8MB

     

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    Optical Drive #1

    Samsung (SH-D162D) 16x DVD-ROM - Black (SATA)

     

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    Backup Software

    Windows Backup

     

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    Free Gift

    FREE - WebCam - Headphones & Microphone
  • tavoctavoc Member UncommonPosts: 257

    Originally posted by jpnole

    Originally posted by tavoc

    Tough call realy.. both computers are definately good rigs for gameing, but realy it comes down the the cards and the processers.. for me i would take the i7 porc because well.. i love mine.. ever since i got it i cant look at other procs expecialy amd.. but the card with the set up with the i7 is severely lacking compared to the amd machine.. gt430 is nothing compared to that sexy gtx460.

    Personaly, i would tkae the g3 pc over the amd 6. case is also better in the g3 i think. would just upgrade the graph card later on.

     Man don't tell the poor OP to get the more expensive machine AND to replace the GPU!!!! Go with the AMD/GTX460!!!!! Intel proc is not enough to justify throwing out the weak GPU and replacing it. That AMD proc is easily 90-95% of the processor that the Intel I7 is but at less cost... which is what AMD does - gives you value. I've had a great experience with my custom build AMD. But seriously though, the AMD rig in this case is the better gaming rig out of the box due to the GTX 460. Swap the two cards and I'd happliy tell the OP to get the Intel.... but alas it has a weak GT 430.

    not going to argue that point, if the op just wants to buy the computer and never touch it, then i would definately advise going with the amd machine.. that gtx460 is a hell of a nice card. upgrade wise however, the i7 machine has more opertunities..  Was just stating what i would do, then again im sitting on a 2k gaming rig..

    Again thoe, out of the box the amd/gtx460 is the better deal

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  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 22,135

    Want to buy a new computer when they won't say what's in it?  What power supply does it have?  What motherboard?  What hard drive?  What memory?  They won't say.  Think that's because it's super awesome stuff and they want to keep it a secret?  Or think it's more likely that they don't want you to find out that it's cheap junk?  If you're unable or unwilling to assemble parts yourself (which isn't as hard as you might think), I'd at least start by finding a site that will tell you what parts they use.

  • tuzalovtuzalov Member Posts: 183

    It's the 1 gb version though meh...Mine is the 2 gb version mmmm higher res textures.

  • tavoctavoc Member UncommonPosts: 257

    Originally posted by tuzalov

    lol they suck heres a better one for  £ 595.76  inc VAT that computer is wayyyy better compared to those two.

    This is from http://www.computerplanet.co.uk

    They also got free delivery.

    Quote number is 153185 you could add another 4gbs of ram sometime later and youll be rockin.


    image

    Computer Case

    Black ATX Tower Case

     

    image

    CPU

    AMD Phenom II X2 560 (2 x 3.3 GHz) AM3 7MB - Black Edition

     

    image

    CPU Heatsink

    Arctic Cooling Freezer 13 - Silent

     

    image

    Memory

    Corsair 4GB XMS3 PC3-12800 1600MHz (1x4GB) - Lifetime Warranty (DDR3)

     

    image

    Graphics Card

    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460 - 2 GB - (PALIT)

     

    image

    Motherboard

    Asus M4A89GTD PRO (AMD 890GX)

     

    image

    Sound Card

    Motherboard Integrated HD Sound

     

    image

    Networking

    Motherboard Integrated Ethernet Lan (Broadband Ready)

     

    image

    USB Ports

    Motherboard Integrated USB Ports

     

    image

    Power Supply

    Corsair 430W PSU - Low Noise

     

    image

    Case Wiring

    Professional Standard

     

    image

    Hard Drive #1

    80 GB SATA-II HDD 7200 8MB

     

    image

    Optical Drive #1

    Samsung (SH-D162D) 16x DVD-ROM - Black (SATA)

     

    image

    Backup Software

    Windows Backup

     

    image

    Free Gift

    FREE - WebCam - Headphones & Microphone

    /facepalm

    you want to put a 430w psu with a card that has a min req of 450w???

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  • tuzalovtuzalov Member Posts: 183

    it's actually a 600w Corsair but the site was bugging it.

    lol there happy :p

  • tavoctavoc Member UncommonPosts: 257

    ahh, sorry i saw that and i was like wtf?? lol

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  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 22,135

    Originally posted by tuzalov

    lol they suck heres a better one for  £ 595.76  inc VAT that computer is wayyyy better compared to those two.

    This is from http://www.computerplanet.co.uk

    They also got free delivery.

    Quote number is 153185 you could add another 4gbs of ram sometime later and youll be rockin.


    image

    Computer Case

    Black ATX Tower Case

     

    image

    CPU

    AMD Phenom II X2 560 (2 x 3.3 GHz) AM3 7MB - Black Edition

     

    image

    CPU Heatsink

    Arctic Cooling Freezer 13 - Silent

     

    image

    Memory

    Corsair 4GB XMS3 PC3-12800 1600MHz (1x4GB) - Lifetime Warranty (DDR3)

     

    image

    Graphics Card

    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460 - 2 GB - (PALIT)

     

    image

    Motherboard

    Asus M4A89GTD PRO (AMD 890GX)

     

    image

    Sound Card

    Motherboard Integrated HD Sound

     

    image

    Networking

    Motherboard Integrated Ethernet Lan (Broadband Ready)

     

    image

    USB Ports

    Motherboard Integrated USB Ports

     

    image

    Power Supply

    Corsair Gaming Series 600W PSU - Low Noise

     

    image

    Case Wiring

    Professional Standard

     

    image

    Hard Drive #1

    80 GB SATA-II HDD 7200 8MB

     

    image

    Optical Drive #1

    Samsung (SH-D162D) 16x DVD-ROM - Black (SATA)

     

    image

    Backup Software

    Windows Backup

     

    image

    Free Gift

    FREE - WebCam - Headphones & Microphone

    Umm... eek.  You're paying quad core prices for a dual core processor.  You're only using one of the two memory channels.  You're paying a bunch extra for 2 GB of video memory in a system that won't run well if 1 GB isn't enough.  You're paying extra for AMD's relatively higher end integrated graphics, then getting a discrete video card so that you won't even use the integrated graphics that you just paid extra for.  An 80 GB hard drive is going to be really old and really slow; newer hard drives use much larger platters than that.

  • tavoctavoc Member UncommonPosts: 257

    you know quizzical imma gonna go to you next time i decide to upgrade my computer... every time a thread like this comes up your all over it haha

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  • tuzalovtuzalov Member Posts: 183

    There -_- £616.33 and that site has serious scripting issues.

     


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    Computer Case

    Black ATX Tower Case

     

    image

    CPU

    AMD Phenom II X4 955 (4 x 3.2 GHz) AM3 8MB - Black Edition

     

    image

    CPU Heatsink

    AMD Heatsink & Fan

     

    image

    Memory

    Corsair 8GB XMS3 PC3-10666 1333MHz (2x4GB) - Lifetime Warranty (DDR3)

     

    image

    Graphics Card

    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460 - 2 GB - (PALIT)

     

    image

    Motherboard

    Asus M4A89GTD PRO (AMD 890GX)

     

    image

    Sound Card

    Motherboard Integrated HD Sound

     

    image

    Networking

    Motherboard Integrated Ethernet Lan (Broadband Ready)

     

    image

    USB Ports

    Motherboard Integrated USB Ports

     

    image

    Power Supply

    Corsair Gaming Series 600W PSU - Low Noise

     

    image

    Case Wiring

    Professional Standard

     

    image

    Hard Drive #1

    500 GB SATA-II 16MB

     

    image

    Optical Drive #1

    Samsung (SH-D162D) 16x DVD-ROM - Black (SATA)

     

    image

    Backup Software

    Windows Backup

     

    image

    Free Gift

    FREE - WebCam - Headphones & Microphone
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