i agree with most of what you have to say about lotro (allthough i think your prices for a lts now are high), however sto and champions are different.
i dont recall the executive producer of lotro stating 6 months after launch that most of the core of the game had to be re-done due to it being considered sub-par. lotro had longer than 2 year run before it went f2p. and lotro had an absolute ton more content than sto. there really is no comparison... lotro was a AAA mmo at launch, sto and champions are not.
Lotro was less than successful at launch, considered as a wow clone they had to reduce the subscription fee to stay competitive. Don't mistake this a critique to Lotro. It is a great game and It looks like they have improved since that time. However, given those times were under the uproar of the movies, I can easily guess things didn't go they way they imagine it.
Not sure how strong your crusade against Cryptic is (provided that your post history shows that you have done nothing but posting on Cryptic related threads at least since October, I am not sure before because I was lazy go further in the past).
I got my LTS at launch and I has already been payed, so basically now I am playing for free, and I still enjoying the game. LTS are obviously bad is you don't like the game. Now people can even check the f2p version that covers the essentials of the game for nothing and subscribe or not if they like, they don't have plans(apparently) of closing LTS sales so there is no rush to get it, aside the on sale part at 20% off. LTS is an offer not an imposition so I don't see anything outrageous about them.
i agree with most of what you have to say about lotro (allthough i think your prices for a lts now are high), however sto and champions are different.
i dont recall the executive producer of lotro stating 6 months after launch that most of the core of the game had to be re-done due to it being considered sub-par. lotro had longer than 2 year run before it went f2p. and lotro had an absolute ton more content than sto. there really is no comparison... lotro was a AAA mmo at launch, sto and champions are not.
It's not about whether or not the Lifetime price is worth it right now or not, it's whether or not it will have been worth it several years from now if a player DOES buy it now.
If a player doesn't like the game then obviously it's not worth it. They could lower the price to $50 and if the player doesn't like the game it would STILL not be worth it. The Lifetime offer isn't for those who don't like the game, it's for those who do and who think they'll still be playing it years from now.
When LotRO launched, the Lifetime subscription only had a ~$480 value (subscription fees for 4 years). Offering the Lifetime sale price of $200 was good for both sides since it gave the player over 50% savings off subscriptions and it gave Turbine a good chunk of up-front cash AND a guaranteed quantity of long-term players.
Now, however, their Lifetime subscription has a value of ~$1080 (subscription fees and free points for the next 6 years). A $200 sale price is no longer good for Turbine since it's giving the player over 80% savings and since the game is free-to-play Turbine already is guaranteed a large quantity of long-term players...a free account IS a lifetime account. THAT'S why I just don't see them offering Lifetime for a $200 sale price anymore.
As far as Champions Online and STO go, they're in the same boat...especially since the $ subscription price and monthly bonus points are similar. If a player enjoys the game enough to subscribe long-term then the Lifetime offer IS in their favor (assuming the game lasts the couple years for a Lifetime to "break even"). The quality of the game compared to another doesn't matter, especially since CO/STO (superhero/sci-fi) are different genres from LotRO (fantasy).
If a player is going to be spending sub fees over the next three years anyway ($360 for CO, $468 for STO) then how can anyone say "Lifetime for $150 is worth it but $250 is not" when either one will still be a savings compared to the monthly sub? If you think CO is only worth $150 then go ahead and wait for it to go free, then buy $150 of points and buy access to what you want that way. Then you'll have your $150 lifetime account.
Now, if you wanna compare the value of a CO lifetime subscription to the value of a CO free-play lifetime account and whether the Lifetime sub is worth it in that way then that's an entirely different matter.
What I don't understand is why people are angry with Cryptic for doing this? It's like getting pissed off that a band you never liked in the first place has 'sold out', or some equally inane thing. You(the people upset) keep saying that they are 'ripping people off'. Ripping people off is SOE saying that Frogloks were an unlockable race at launch, though a hidden quest, which didn't actually exist yet. Ripping people off would be selling a LTS, and THEN saying 'HA!! It's going F2P anyway!'.
Cryptic isn't doing that. Everyone knows the score, and if someone thinks it's worth it, they'll spend the money. If they don't, they won't. WTF is the big deal? It's like people getting pissed off because there are Pepsi banners up in the venue where some punk band is playing a concert. No one is FORCING you to buy the damn Pepsi!
You have this thing... it's a sort of 'will'.... that's 'free'.... you can do what you want, buy what you want, and play what you want. Then again, maybe YOU don't, but most of us do.
well if you really dont understand, heres how you can learn...
buy a lts to both games then come back in 6 months or so and let us know if you think are going to get your 500$ worth.... if it takes you that long.
having said this i am not against lts, i often regret not having bought a lts to lotro (and if eve had ever had such an offer it would have been worth it too). of course a lts to lotro would have been well worth the money imo. paying 250$ for a lts to a half finished game that has less than a months worth of content is a blatant scam.
its not that people are angry at cryptic for making the offer, people should be warned about business' that behave questionably (at best).
I can't speak to STO, I don't play and never will (I tried the Beta though, out of curiousity). It might be a good game but I dislike sci-fi so I generally avoid that genre. However, I bought LT at launch for Champions and have long-since made my money back and then some. Not on top of that, when Champions goes f2p, it turns out they're going to start paying ~me~ with monthly stipends. That means future costumes, future adventure packs, etc., I'll essentially get for free just with the money I get every month. I fail to see how you think this is questionable behavior.
Champions has definitely had its downs. I walked away from it for about 4 months, but it's always there when I feel like being a superhero, for free, and whenever there was new content or events I logged in for those, too. Basically, the only reason I stopped playing Champions is because there was a lack of content for a while, but as the game grows, so does the amount of content it offers. That happens with all games. I even expect it to happen to GW2, which I'm anticipating. But as far as Champs goes, it's come a long way, but Cryptic knows the reputation its game got, and that's probably the reason for the f2p. It's not enough to tell people 'it's better now', but if it's free and everyone gets to play, they can figure that out for themselves. The lifetime is for those who play, find they enjoy it, and would want access for the life of the game without having to pay monthly fees.
That's clearly not you, but what I don't understand is your blatant rage. You post like someone ate your baby. Your posting history speaks to one hell of a vendetta against Cryptic. Honestly I think you need to chill out before you burst a vein. It's really not something to get so angry over. If anything, it just seems childish. Sorry if that offends, but you should know how you're looking to other people.
To the person who mentioned past LT'ers being angry if they sold at a discount sale from their original 200 mark, I can only speak for myself, and no that would not anger me. I've long since gotten my money's worth, if they want to offer it for less at this point, it's not something that would bother me.
"Forums aren't for intelligent discussion; they're for blow-hards with unwavering opinions."
If STO goes F2P and it does well, it might give cryptic the incentive to improve STO with more than just the occasional added mission, and for LTSs some of the store items are nice.
Having said that STO scarred me for life and I hope Cryptic HQ gets hit my a meteor full of borg nano-probes and Ferengi ear wax.
What I don't understand is why people are angry with Cryptic for doing this? It's like getting pissed off that a band you never liked in the first place has 'sold out', or some equally inane thing. You(the people upset) keep saying that they are 'ripping people off'. Ripping people off is SOE saying that Frogloks were an unlockable race at launch, though a hidden quest, which didn't actually exist yet. Ripping people off would be selling a LTS, and THEN saying 'HA!! It's going F2P anyway!'.
Cryptic isn't doing that. Everyone knows the score, and if someone thinks it's worth it, they'll spend the money. If they don't, they won't. WTF is the big deal? It's like people getting pissed off because there are Pepsi banners up in the venue where some punk band is playing a concert. No one is FORCING you to buy the damn Pepsi!
You have this thing... it's a sort of 'will'.... that's 'free'.... you can do what you want, buy what you want, and play what you want. Then again, maybe YOU don't, but most of us do.
well if you really dont understand, heres how you can learn...
buy a lts to both games then come back in 6 months or so and let us know if you think are going to get your 500$ worth.... if it takes you that long.
having said this i am not against lts, i often regret not having bought a lts to lotro (and if eve had ever had such an offer it would have been worth it too). of course a lts to lotro would have been well worth the money imo. paying 250$ for a lts to a half finished game that has less than a months worth of content is a blatant scam.
its not that people are angry at cryptic for making the offer, people should be warned about business' that behave questionably (at best).
A: I bought an LTS to STO before launch, no regrets here.
B: A scam involves subterfuge and deception, and I don't see any of that from Cryptic. As I said, other companies(SOE comes to mind) have done MUCH shadier shit than anything I've encountered from Cryptic. I think maybe we disagree on what a 'scam' is? Here's my understanding:
Someone is selling a car in horrible shape. They say it's a rare classic, and worth a fortune restored, so they're charging $5000 for it. If it's actually a rusty, '86 Ford Escort... that's a scam.
Someone else is selling the same car, and they tell you it's a rusty, '86 Ford Escort. No matter how much they are asking, it's still not a scam. If they're waiting for someone to pay $5000, I'd wish them luck, but they aren't cheating, or defrauding anyone.
scam.
[skam] noun, verb, scammed, scam·ming.
–noun
1.
a confidence game or other fraudulent scheme, esp. for making a quick profit; swindle.
I must admit having had the full exposure to your games. Both in CO and being a STO Lts and having seen this Dev post by accident I feel compelled to post here even though i stay out of forums. Your games where not what i expected on each occation.
I thought that Champions Online was uninspiring and repetitive but i considered it to just not be my kind of game and gave it a pass. However i did notice quite alot of drama and faulse impresions given by Cryptic to the community. I at large just ignored the forums and quit the game.
However with STO ..loving the IP i ignored my gut feeling and dove head first into the game by taking out a Lts after i bought the box. Boy should i have listened to my gut! I was greeted with a unfinished and shallow game which was light years from what Jack and that other guy said would exist on there video snipets.
I have visited the game regularly and i realy dont think it has come a long way. Sure they fixed some bugs and added some content but not much at all. The so call weekly releases are everthing but "Weekly". Many blind IP worshipers will swallow anything with a Startrek Skin on it and hence the Cryptic Shop "they realy skin them with that one". You can get a Lts but you still have to Buy stuff in the C-Store!
As far as buying a Lts for this game is conserned i would Discourage anyone from waisting your money. Unless you are a Star Trek fan who is willing to swallow everything you get fed as long as its has a Starfleet Sticker on it.
Based on my experience i would just give Cryptic a miss completely! There is over enough dissatisfied customers attached to this company to give any normal person a red flag. Just google it ... they even had to make a Dissatisfaction thread dedicated to the Disatisfaction about STO ! Hell if that does not ring a alarm bell then ...??
In my opinion... i would suggest you give it at least a month for $2.50 ...before giving them $250.
I must admit having had the full exposure to your games. Both in CO and being a STO Lts and having seen this Dev post by accident I feel compelled to post here even though i stay out of forums. Your games where not what i expected on each occation.
I thought that Champions Online was uninspiring and repetitive but i considered it to just not be my kind of game and gave it a pass. However i did notice quite alot of drama and faulse impresions given by Cryptic to the community. I at large just ignored the forums and quit the game.
However with STO ..loving the IP i ignored my gut feeling and dove head first into the game by taking out a Lts after i bought the box. Boy should i have listened to my gut! I was greeted with a unfinished and shallow game which was light years from what Jack and that other guy said would exist on there video snipets.
I have visited the game regularly and i realy dont think it has come a long way. Sure they fixed some bugs and added some content but not much at all. The so call weekly releases are everthing but "Weekly". Many blind IP worshipers will swallow anything with a Startrek Skin on it and hence the Cryptic Shop "they realy skin them with that one". You can get a Lts but you still have to Buy stuff in the C-Store!
As far as buying a Lts for this game is conserned i would Discourage anyone from waisting your money. Unless you are a Star Trek fan who is willing to swallow everything you get fed as long as its has a Starfleet Sticker on it.
Based on my experience i would just give Cryptic a miss completely! There is over enough dissatisfied customers attached to this company to give any normal person a red flag. Just google it ... they even had to make a Dissatisfaction thread dedicated to the Disatisfaction about STO ! Hell if that does not ring a alarm bell then ...??
In my opinion... i would suggest you give it at least a month for $2.50 ...before giving them $250.
Good Luck ... !
Sorry for my spelling ...
I agree that buying a LTS to a game without checking it first for some time is not really the smart thing to do.
Didn't Turbine have an offer like this a while before LOTRO went free to play? I am pretty sure some people were upset because they bought it just a week before the announcement.
You don't have to be a Mon Calamari to release "-it's a trap!" (yeah, wrong SF IP).
Up until a short time before it did go the 'freemium' route, yes. Since LotRO launched, Turbine had constantly offered lifetime subscriptions until they terminated the offers prior to the change. Quite often Turbine would offer a discounted price for lifetime subscriptions (usually at least two times a year). When people questioned them about it, asking if that was going to hurt their bottom line, Turbine always replied that the number of lifetime subscribers was a small percentage of their player base.
Since STO's population has a far greater percentage of lifetime subscribers, due to the smaller player base involved, in the long run STO going the free to play/freemium route just makes sense. Sooner or later STO will follow CO's lead. I always figured STO would go that route before CO did though; from all accounts CO's population expanded after (i believe) the Vibora Bay expansion, while STO's base has seemed to continously contract.
As for LotRO's announcement? Some people were upset, but it was really an overreaction; they were acting like LotRO was becoming a true free to play game, rather than the hybrid model Turbine adopted. As has been said, the freemium model is really just a subscription game with a greatly expanded trial mode. However, it is a good point: With one game changing business models in a few days, and the other widely believed to do so as well, is the discounted lifetime subscription price really a good deal? If you are already playing the game, love it, and believe the game will be around for years to come, then probably so (assuming you don't already have a lifetime subscription, of course). otherwise probably not, at least until the person actually tries the game for the free thirty months.
"Oh my, how horrible, someone is criticizing a MMO. Oh yeah, that is what a forum is about, looking at both sides. You rather have to be critical of anything in this genre as of late because the track record of these major studios has just been appalling." -Ozmodan
I don't know about what other people do, but I bought my lifetimes (CO and STO) for the promised future of the gameplay after having enjoyed Cryptic's original offering: "City of Heroes / Villains" which I played for over 5 years. Sinking $15 per month for 5 years into City of Heroes which satisfied me more with its gameplay, than WoW/LoTRO ever did/could, amounted to $900.
When I learned Cryptic was making CO and then STO, I naturally assumed I would enjoy their gameplay and joined the betas. I found combat systems I liked and invested in lifetime subscriptions. I paid about $500 for both games which I will continue to enjoy for (hopefully) years to come.
In essence, when you pay $15 per month, what you are truly paying for is the right to enter the game-world and play the game. That's it, nothing more, nothing less. That's a fundamental truth for all MMO's as far as I can see, and F2P MMO's simply waive that admittance fee and that's about it.
Am I perfectly happy with CO and STO? No. There still are things I'd love to see changed. Am I happy with my lifetime subscriptions? Yes, because I know that for the foreseeable future, I can log into the games I like to play in — even in their current form — and not have to worry about maintaining a subscription.
Even when CO goes F2P, I will still be happy with my lifetime purchase because what separates the CO F2P account from the CO Subscription account is that the F2P account does not have access to gameplay features my Lifetime subscription will always provide me with!
STO is a real fun game. But like most non-subscription games out there where where play, explore and level until you beat the game you only need to play the game for a month or two and then you are done.
No reason to stick around after max level, no reason for a LTS. That is why it's for sale. I know a bunch of guys with LTS to STO that went back to pay and play Pirates of the Burning Sea (before it went ftp). I guess there is enough to keep you busy in that game to keep you in there after max level. Map conquest, PvP with consequences, crafting/shipping/economy/shipbuilding.
No reason to stick around after max level, no reason for a LTS.
For me, there never are reasons to stick with an MMO after max level, that weren't there before max level.
However, STO for example has monthly content series with weekly episodes and the Foundry system which allows people to write their own missions will entertain me for years to come, especially if (as we hope will happen) it will be included in CO and not just STO.
I bought STO when it came out, liked it just fine but the lack of content at launch made me quit after a month. Now i took another look at it and liked the changes i see, liked the upcoming changes that are announced, and decided to get the LTA. I don't even care wether or not it goes F2P, because that has nothing to do with wether you should buy a LTA or not. I bought a LotRO LTA when F2P got announced there, and im happy with it, now i bought a STO LTA and i will be happy with that too because i actually spend some time investigating WTH im actually spending my cash on beforehand.
Couple things for people to chew on:
1. Every MMO gets hyped, and every MMO dev will praise his game to high heavens. Thats why normal people rely on third party sources for quality assessments, like magazines or sites like this incase of games.
2. Cryptic is not a bad company, they are limited in their resources, just look at the changelogs. They do listen to their players, ground combat was the biggest problem for me and other and they redo it. I complained about klingons after launch, and now i enjoy my klingon(with crafting). Cryptic however is not Blizzard, they simply can't produce content as fast, hell not even Blizzard actually manages to produce content fast enough.
3. Use your Brain. Most people are able to ascertain that offering a LTA at the same time as announcing F2P seems counterintuitive, using your brain will allow you to conclude that there must be a reason. With only the smallest amount of research you will find that the F2P model of CO is similar to that of LotRO, which means your still going to pay if you want the full deal.
4. Nobody is holding a gun to your head forcing you to buy this(i hope), cryptic plays with open cards and its your own damn fault for wasting money on a game you ended up not enjoying. I bought plenty of games i regretted buying later, but i never blamed the company for my own lack of research.
I know its hard for some people to understand, but just because you dislike something does not mean everyone is going to dislike something.
Buy now and enjoy F2P STO in a year from now! It's gonna happen.
Of course anyone can come on here and give their opinion, it is an open forum afterall. But it is merely your opinon and doesnt mean diddly.
This annoucement today is the clearest signal from Cryptic that STOL is not going F2P any time soon. If it were then they would not be selling and advertising Life Time subs, they would not do that then go F2P, thereby pissing off their player base. Of course this is my opinion and my interpretation of this announcement and yes I too could be wrong.
Unless you have access to Cryptic's figures no one can say what they are going to do. Even if you did have access, you would need to know what they are thinking and their plans, not just for to day but for the future, they are not a charity afterall.
Anyway why should they go free to play when they have one of the biggest IPs in history? Maybe they have decided to develop this game further and further, who knows.
Buy now and enjoy F2P STO in a year from now! It's gonna happen.
Of course anyone can come on here and give their opinion, it is an open forum afterall. But it is merely your opinon and doesnt mean diddly.
This annoucement today is the clearest signal from Cryptic that STOL is not going F2P any time soon. If it were then they would not be selling and advertising Life Time subs, they would not do that then go F2P, thereby pissing off their player base. Of course this is my opinion and my interpretation of this announcement and yes I too could be wrong.
Unless you have access to Cryptic's figures no one can say what they are going to do. Even if you did have access, you would need to know what they are thinking and their plans, not just for to day but for the future, they are not a charity afterall.
Anyway why should they go free to play when they have one of the biggest IPs in history? Maybe they have decided to develop this game further and further, who knows.
One word, LotRO. Going F2P and LTAs have nothing to do with each other in a Freemium model.
Buy now and enjoy F2P STO in a year from now! It's gonna happen.
Of course anyone can come on here and give their opinion, it is an open forum afterall. But it is merely your opinon and doesnt mean diddly.
This annoucement today is the clearest signal from Cryptic that STOL is not going F2P any time soon. If it were then they would not be selling and advertising Life Time subs, they would not do that then go F2P, thereby pissing off their player base. Of course this is my opinion and my interpretation of this announcement and yes I too could be wrong.
Unless you have access to Cryptic's figures no one can say what they are going to do. Even if you did have access, you would need to know what they are thinking and their plans, not just for to day but for the future, they are not a charity afterall.
Anyway why should they go free to play when they have one of the biggest IPs in history? Maybe they have decided to develop this game further and further, who knows.
Actually, to say that they won't go F2P because they are selling lifetimes is just plain wrong. They are selling CO lifetimes at the same time, and it is on the verge of releasing the F2P side.
They keep saying that they don't have any immediate plans to take STO F2P, and I'll buy that. But I also think that STO will be F2P in the future; whether they are discussing it now or not.
And keep in mind, I have a LT for STO and I enjoy the game.
I want a mmorpg where people have gone through misery, have gone through school stuff and actually have had sex even. -sagil
Buy now and enjoy F2P STO in a year from now! It's gonna happen.
Of course anyone can come on here and give their opinion, it is an open forum afterall. But it is merely your opinon and doesnt mean diddly.
This annoucement today is the clearest signal from Cryptic that STOL is not going F2P any time soon. If it were then they would not be selling and advertising Life Time subs, they would not do that then go F2P, thereby pissing off their player base. Of course this is my opinion and my interpretation of this announcement and yes I too could be wrong.
Unless you have access to Cryptic's figures no one can say what they are going to do. Even if you did have access, you would need to know what they are thinking and their plans, not just for to day but for the future, they are not a charity afterall.
Anyway why should they go free to play when they have one of the biggest IPs in history? Maybe they have decided to develop this game further and further, who knows.
Actually, to say that they won't go F2P because they are selling lifetimes is just plain wrong. They are selling CO lifetimes at the same time, and it is on the verge of releasing the F2P side.
They keep saying that they don't have any immediate plans to take STO F2P, and I'll buy that. But I also think that STO will be F2P in the future; whether they are discussing it now or not.
And keep in mind, I have a LT for STO and I enjoy the game.
If the F2P model in CO results in a big financial gain like it did with Turbines DDO, then ofc they will go F2P with the "big" brother STO aswell, just like Turbine did with LotRO. Anything else would be just stupid, we are talking about a buisness here, not charity.
And just like in LotRO there will be pros and cons, with all the pros being on the LTAs and subscribers side, and the cons being heaped on the microtransaction and F2P players. The big difference is the free cryptic points allowance, it will allow the former players to get stuff without paying for which they would have had to use their CC even in the old system.
Originally posted by VultureSkull Originally posted by sookster54 Buy now and enjoy F2P STO in a year from now! It's gonna happen.
Of course anyone can come on here and give their opinion, it is an open forum afterall. But it is merely your opinon and doesnt mean diddly. This annoucement today is the clearest signal from Cryptic that STOL is not going F2P any time soon. If it were then they would not be selling and advertising Life Time subs, they would not do that then go F2P, thereby pissing off their player base. Of course this is my opinion and my interpretation of this announcement and yes I too could be wrong. Unless you have access to Cryptic's figures no one can say what they are going to do. Even if you did have access, you would need to know what they are thinking and their plans, not just for to day but for the future, they are not a charity afterall. Anyway why should they go free to play when they have one of the biggest IPs in history? Maybe they have decided to develop this game further and further, who knows. Um... they were selling lifetime subs for CO a year ago and I think they still are.
Buy now and enjoy F2P STO in a year from now! It's gonna happen.
Of course anyone can come on here and give their opinion, it is an open forum afterall. But it is merely your opinon and doesnt mean diddly.
This annoucement today is the clearest signal from Cryptic that STOL is not going F2P any time soon. If it were then they would not be selling and advertising Life Time subs, they would not do that then go F2P, thereby pissing off their player base. Of course this is my opinion and my interpretation of this announcement and yes I too could be wrong.
Unless you have access to Cryptic's figures no one can say what they are going to do. Even if you did have access, you would need to know what they are thinking and their plans, not just for to day but for the future, they are not a charity afterall.
Anyway why should they go free to play when they have one of the biggest IPs in history? Maybe they have decided to develop this game further and further, who knows.
you do realise the sale starts about the same time champions goes free to play right?
they are selling lts to a ftp game for 240$....ROFL... buyer beware! same goes for sto as most people beleive it will soon be free to play as well.
IF THE ONLY DEFENCE FOR CRITICISM OF A GAME IS CALLING SOMEONE A TROLL OR HATER, THAT SAYS A LOT ABOUT THE QUALITY OF THE GAME
Buy now and enjoy F2P STO in a year from now! It's gonna happen.
you do realise the sale starts about the same time champions goes free to play right?
they are selling lts to a ftp game for 240$....ROFL... buyer beware! same goes for sto as most people beleive it will soon be free to play as well.
Yeah and I believe that the world is square, doesnt make it true though does it?
Anyway there are different types of F2P models, like the EQ2 one which is very different to the LOTROL model. So even if it goes F2P the Lifer will not be shot out of the water if they are still promoting them now.
Find below the list of things that are being planned for STOL, it is not the same game as it was on release by a country mile (you can walk around your ship now, engineering etc for example) as with all MMOs. So contrary to the nay sayers STOL keeps bigger and better and there is no indication as of yet that it will change.
Also look at DCU Online, they are selling LifeTime Subs for a game that you can cap in 2- 3days, which is shorter than you could do on STOL on its release.
It shows, that at the end of the day, Life Time Subs are for people that are intrinsically interested in an IP so going F2P has no really bearing on their desicion to do so, as long as there is a distinction between a Lifer and a F2P player, which, is definitely evident in the games that have gone F2P recently.
In Testing
These items are currently being tested on either an internal test shard or on TRIBBLE/REDSHIRT
Foundry: Mission Creation Tools
New Playable Vulcan Ship
TNG: All Good Things Uniform
Open Jacket Uniform ("PC Gamer Cover")
Feature Episode Series 3
New playable shuttles including the Delta Flyer
Under Investigation
These issues are hot topics in the QA and CS world. It by no means represents all the bugs we're looking into, but instead new issues that I want you to know we are on top of.
Reports of expired exchange items not being returned to the user
Daily PVP Reward Balance
Fine tuning warp in and out animations
PVP wrap up screens closing too quickly
A way to edit prior captain's log entries
Error Messaging related to "Unable to take down your sale. Please try again later."
Increasing number of players allowed in social zones
Adding a way to obtain the the Guramba Siege Destroyer using in game currencies
Upgrading the amount of content Demo accounts are allowed access to
Ridiculously difficult Borg in STFs
Additional reports of the infamous 1 shotting dual pistol exploration creatures
Better "Aid the Planet" rewards
Distribution of Anomalies in various Star Clusters
Interaction problems in STFs
The Captain's Table
Future Veteran Rewards past 400 days
In Development
These items are actively being worked on by the at this time by the development team.
Feature Episode Series 3 missions
400 Day Veteran Rewards
Ways to boost XP gain while leveling up (new type of consumables)
PVE Mission Queue System (to allow Fleets to run private fleet actions, initiate episode replay etc)
New Ground Combat v 2.0 - major update to weapons and a new over shoulder aim and shoot (optional) reticle system
New Running, Sprinting, and 8 direction of movement animations
New craftable consumable items
New Gorn customization options
New Loading Screens
Imroved Sector Space Map
New Earth Spacedock Exterior and Interior
Andorian Playable Ship
Better ways to promote and inform players about Feature Episodes in game
Ability to spend Atari Tokens as well as Cryptic Points in STO
Reviewing designs of the STFs to determine areas that need improvement and ways to make these episodes better
More voice over and cutscenes in missions
Ongoing support for new Foundry features and updates
In Design Discussions
The lead designers are currently discussing these features for implementation in an upcoming update
Feature Episode Series 4
Duty Officer System (formerly known as the crew system)
New Bonuses, items, craftables, and game mechanics related to Duty Officers
Redesign for Exploration Sectors (and Exploration in general)
Off-Duty Costumes and ways to improve the feature so that costume rules are clearer and better defined
Adding BOFF abilities to power list on the ground (so you can slot them)
New Prometheus, Oberth, Vesta, Ambassador, and Future Enterprise ships
Exchange Updates
STF: The Hive
Long Term
Designs and features being considered for updates further in the future
Converting First Officer to Playable Captain
Fleet Starbases
Fleet Action Updates
More Fleet Actions
More PVP Maps
Updated Game Tutorial and ability to skip it
More iconic locations such as Starfleet Academy, Rura Penthe etc...
These items are currently being tested on either an internal test shard or on TRIBBLE/REDSHIRT
Foundry: Mission Creation Tools
New Playable Vulcan Ship
TNG: All Good Things Uniform
Open Jacket Uniform ("PC Gamer Cover")
Feature Episode Series 3
New playable shuttles including the Delta Flyer
WOW!!! so lets see...i can PAY 240$ for what in the near future?
- the ability to create missions for cryptic, after all who wants to play a game when they can work for cryptic filling out the woefully lacking content for them?
-2 ships and 2 uniforms which you can pay even more money for in the c-store
-"weekly" episodes that are not actually weekly and really are very little content
pass. like i said buyer beware!
but thanks for pointing out once again how little sto has to offer. i relly like the lengthy part about them essentially re-doing ground combat one year after launch! wonder what could have been if they had finished the game and not released it in a pre-beta state.
IF THE ONLY DEFENCE FOR CRITICISM OF A GAME IS CALLING SOMEONE A TROLL OR HATER, THAT SAYS A LOT ABOUT THE QUALITY OF THE GAME
These items are currently being tested on either an internal test shard or on TRIBBLE/REDSHIRT
Foundry: Mission Creation Tools
New Playable Vulcan Ship
TNG: All Good Things Uniform
Open Jacket Uniform ("PC Gamer Cover")
Feature Episode Series 3
New playable shuttles including the Delta Flyer
WOW!!! so lets see...i can PAY 240$ for what in the near future?
- the ability to create missions for cryptic, after all who wants to play a game when they can work for cryptic filling out the woefully lacking content for them?
-2 ships and 2 uniforms which you can pay even more money for in the c-store
-"weekly" episodes that are not actually weekly and really are very little content
pass. like i said buyer beware!
but thanks for pointing out once again how little sto has to offer. i relly like the lengthy part about them essentially re-doing ground combat one year after launch! wonder what could have been if they had finished the game and not released it in a pre-beta state.
You just don't get it or accept the fact to some that enjoy the game might take up the offer.
The Foundry is popular. People love creating their own missions. They loved in COH and wanted it in DDO to create their own much like they did for NWN. Correct me if I am wrong but some series of the Star Trek universe were written by fans. I remember seeing that somewhere they would get 1000s of fan written stories for possible episodes. To a star trek fan that loves doing that this is perfect for them. I only wish there was a way to rate submissions.
The weekly episodes are fun. From what I gather looking over the forums people enjoy them. I'm sure you can find some that say the opposite, but I think overall people enjoy them, I did. They have a good storyline and are fun to play. Content that's a matter of opinion. I was satisfied with them.
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Lotro was less than successful at launch, considered as a wow clone they had to reduce the subscription fee to stay competitive. Don't mistake this a critique to Lotro. It is a great game and It looks like they have improved since that time. However, given those times were under the uproar of the movies, I can easily guess things didn't go they way they imagine it.
Not sure how strong your crusade against Cryptic is (provided that your post history shows that you have done nothing but posting on Cryptic related threads at least since October, I am not sure before because I was lazy go further in the past).
I got my LTS at launch and I has already been payed, so basically now I am playing for free, and I still enjoying the game. LTS are obviously bad is you don't like the game. Now people can even check the f2p version that covers the essentials of the game for nothing and subscribe or not if they like, they don't have plans(apparently) of closing LTS sales so there is no rush to get it, aside the on sale part at 20% off. LTS is an offer not an imposition so I don't see anything outrageous about them.
It's not about whether or not the Lifetime price is worth it right now or not, it's whether or not it will have been worth it several years from now if a player DOES buy it now.
If a player doesn't like the game then obviously it's not worth it. They could lower the price to $50 and if the player doesn't like the game it would STILL not be worth it. The Lifetime offer isn't for those who don't like the game, it's for those who do and who think they'll still be playing it years from now.
When LotRO launched, the Lifetime subscription only had a ~$480 value (subscription fees for 4 years). Offering the Lifetime sale price of $200 was good for both sides since it gave the player over 50% savings off subscriptions and it gave Turbine a good chunk of up-front cash AND a guaranteed quantity of long-term players.
Now, however, their Lifetime subscription has a value of ~$1080 (subscription fees and free points for the next 6 years). A $200 sale price is no longer good for Turbine since it's giving the player over 80% savings and since the game is free-to-play Turbine already is guaranteed a large quantity of long-term players...a free account IS a lifetime account. THAT'S why I just don't see them offering Lifetime for a $200 sale price anymore.
As far as Champions Online and STO go, they're in the same boat...especially since the $ subscription price and monthly bonus points are similar. If a player enjoys the game enough to subscribe long-term then the Lifetime offer IS in their favor (assuming the game lasts the couple years for a Lifetime to "break even"). The quality of the game compared to another doesn't matter, especially since CO/STO (superhero/sci-fi) are different genres from LotRO (fantasy).
If a player is going to be spending sub fees over the next three years anyway ($360 for CO, $468 for STO) then how can anyone say "Lifetime for $150 is worth it but $250 is not" when either one will still be a savings compared to the monthly sub? If you think CO is only worth $150 then go ahead and wait for it to go free, then buy $150 of points and buy access to what you want that way. Then you'll have your $150 lifetime account.
Now, if you wanna compare the value of a CO lifetime subscription to the value of a CO free-play lifetime account and whether the Lifetime sub is worth it in that way then that's an entirely different matter.
I can't speak to STO, I don't play and never will (I tried the Beta though, out of curiousity). It might be a good game but I dislike sci-fi so I generally avoid that genre. However, I bought LT at launch for Champions and have long-since made my money back and then some. Not on top of that, when Champions goes f2p, it turns out they're going to start paying ~me~ with monthly stipends. That means future costumes, future adventure packs, etc., I'll essentially get for free just with the money I get every month. I fail to see how you think this is questionable behavior.
Champions has definitely had its downs. I walked away from it for about 4 months, but it's always there when I feel like being a superhero, for free, and whenever there was new content or events I logged in for those, too. Basically, the only reason I stopped playing Champions is because there was a lack of content for a while, but as the game grows, so does the amount of content it offers. That happens with all games. I even expect it to happen to GW2, which I'm anticipating. But as far as Champs goes, it's come a long way, but Cryptic knows the reputation its game got, and that's probably the reason for the f2p. It's not enough to tell people 'it's better now', but if it's free and everyone gets to play, they can figure that out for themselves. The lifetime is for those who play, find they enjoy it, and would want access for the life of the game without having to pay monthly fees.
That's clearly not you, but what I don't understand is your blatant rage. You post like someone ate your baby. Your posting history speaks to one hell of a vendetta against Cryptic. Honestly I think you need to chill out before you burst a vein. It's really not something to get so angry over. If anything, it just seems childish. Sorry if that offends, but you should know how you're looking to other people.
To the person who mentioned past LT'ers being angry if they sold at a discount sale from their original 200 mark, I can only speak for myself, and no that would not anger me. I've long since gotten my money's worth, if they want to offer it for less at this point, it's not something that would bother me.
"Forums aren't for intelligent discussion; they're for blow-hards with unwavering opinions."
I agree with this ... !
A: I bought an LTS to STO before launch, no regrets here.
B: A scam involves subterfuge and deception, and I don't see any of that from Cryptic. As I said, other companies(SOE comes to mind) have done MUCH shadier shit than anything I've encountered from Cryptic. I think maybe we disagree on what a 'scam' is? Here's my understanding:
Someone is selling a car in horrible shape. They say it's a rare classic, and worth a fortune restored, so they're charging $5000 for it. If it's actually a rusty, '86 Ford Escort... that's a scam.
Someone else is selling the same car, and they tell you it's a rusty, '86 Ford Escort. No matter how much they are asking, it's still not a scam. If they're waiting for someone to pay $5000, I'd wish them luck, but they aren't cheating, or defrauding anyone.
scam.
[skam] noun, verb, scammed, scam·ming.
–noun
1.
a confidence game or other fraudulent scheme, esp. for making a quick profit; swindle.
–verb (used with object)
2.
to cheat or defraud with a scam.
@ Cryptic
I must admit having had the full exposure to your games. Both in CO and being a STO Lts and having seen this Dev post by accident I feel compelled to post here even though i stay out of forums. Your games where not what i expected on each occation.
I thought that Champions Online was uninspiring and repetitive but i considered it to just not be my kind of game and gave it a pass. However i did notice quite alot of drama and faulse impresions given by Cryptic to the community. I at large just ignored the forums and quit the game.
However with STO ..loving the IP i ignored my gut feeling and dove head first into the game by taking out a Lts after i bought the box. Boy should i have listened to my gut! I was greeted with a unfinished and shallow game which was light years from what Jack and that other guy said would exist on there video snipets.
I have visited the game regularly and i realy dont think it has come a long way. Sure they fixed some bugs and added some content but not much at all. The so call weekly releases are everthing but "Weekly". Many blind IP worshipers will swallow anything with a Startrek Skin on it and hence the Cryptic Shop "they realy skin them with that one". You can get a Lts but you still have to Buy stuff in the C-Store!
As far as buying a Lts for this game is conserned i would Discourage anyone from waisting your money. Unless you are a Star Trek fan who is willing to swallow everything you get fed as long as its has a Starfleet Sticker on it.
Based on my experience i would just give Cryptic a miss completely! There is over enough dissatisfied customers attached to this company to give any normal person a red flag. Just google it ... they even had to make a Dissatisfaction thread dedicated to the Disatisfaction about STO ! Hell if that does not ring a alarm bell then ...??
In my opinion... i would suggest you give it at least a month for $2.50 ...before giving them $250.
Good Luck ... !
Sorry for my spelling ...
I agree that buying a LTS to a game without checking it first for some time is not really the smart thing to do.
In other words, we just don't get it?
Up until a short time before it did go the 'freemium' route, yes. Since LotRO launched, Turbine had constantly offered lifetime subscriptions until they terminated the offers prior to the change. Quite often Turbine would offer a discounted price for lifetime subscriptions (usually at least two times a year). When people questioned them about it, asking if that was going to hurt their bottom line, Turbine always replied that the number of lifetime subscribers was a small percentage of their player base.
Since STO's population has a far greater percentage of lifetime subscribers, due to the smaller player base involved, in the long run STO going the free to play/freemium route just makes sense. Sooner or later STO will follow CO's lead. I always figured STO would go that route before CO did though; from all accounts CO's population expanded after (i believe) the Vibora Bay expansion, while STO's base has seemed to continously contract.
As for LotRO's announcement? Some people were upset, but it was really an overreaction; they were acting like LotRO was becoming a true free to play game, rather than the hybrid model Turbine adopted. As has been said, the freemium model is really just a subscription game with a greatly expanded trial mode. However, it is a good point: With one game changing business models in a few days, and the other widely believed to do so as well, is the discounted lifetime subscription price really a good deal? If you are already playing the game, love it, and believe the game will be around for years to come, then probably so (assuming you don't already have a lifetime subscription, of course). otherwise probably not, at least until the person actually tries the game for the free thirty months.
"Oh my, how horrible, someone is criticizing a MMO. Oh yeah, that is what a forum is about, looking at both sides. You rather have to be critical of anything in this genre as of late because the track record of these major studios has just been appalling." -Ozmodan
I don't know about what other people do, but I bought my lifetimes (CO and STO) for the promised future of the gameplay after having enjoyed Cryptic's original offering: "City of Heroes / Villains" which I played for over 5 years. Sinking $15 per month for 5 years into City of Heroes which satisfied me more with its gameplay, than WoW/LoTRO ever did/could, amounted to $900.
When I learned Cryptic was making CO and then STO, I naturally assumed I would enjoy their gameplay and joined the betas. I found combat systems I liked and invested in lifetime subscriptions. I paid about $500 for both games which I will continue to enjoy for (hopefully) years to come.
In essence, when you pay $15 per month, what you are truly paying for is the right to enter the game-world and play the game. That's it, nothing more, nothing less. That's a fundamental truth for all MMO's as far as I can see, and F2P MMO's simply waive that admittance fee and that's about it.
Am I perfectly happy with CO and STO? No. There still are things I'd love to see changed. Am I happy with my lifetime subscriptions? Yes, because I know that for the foreseeable future, I can log into the games I like to play in — even in their current form — and not have to worry about maintaining a subscription.
Even when CO goes F2P, I will still be happy with my lifetime purchase because what separates the CO F2P account from the CO Subscription account is that the F2P account does not have access to gameplay features my Lifetime subscription will always provide me with!
CO and STO are two games that are very shallow - meant to appeal to simple players - perhaps teenagers - certainly not meant for adults.
I think they should be both free to play.
I have no idea why anyone would want to buy a lifetime subscription to either game.
It's just a huge waste of money that could be better used for something else.
Especially when there are far far better games out there.
STO is a real fun game. But like most non-subscription games out there where where play, explore and level until you beat the game you only need to play the game for a month or two and then you are done.
No reason to stick around after max level, no reason for a LTS. That is why it's for sale. I know a bunch of guys with LTS to STO that went back to pay and play Pirates of the Burning Sea (before it went ftp). I guess there is enough to keep you busy in that game to keep you in there after max level. Map conquest, PvP with consequences, crafting/shipping/economy/shipbuilding.
For me, there never are reasons to stick with an MMO after max level, that weren't there before max level.
However, STO for example has monthly content series with weekly episodes and the Foundry system which allows people to write their own missions will entertain me for years to come, especially if (as we hope will happen) it will be included in CO and not just STO.
Way to much drama on these boards ...
I bought STO when it came out, liked it just fine but the lack of content at launch made me quit after a month. Now i took another look at it and liked the changes i see, liked the upcoming changes that are announced, and decided to get the LTA. I don't even care wether or not it goes F2P, because that has nothing to do with wether you should buy a LTA or not. I bought a LotRO LTA when F2P got announced there, and im happy with it, now i bought a STO LTA and i will be happy with that too because i actually spend some time investigating WTH im actually spending my cash on beforehand.
Couple things for people to chew on:
1. Every MMO gets hyped, and every MMO dev will praise his game to high heavens. Thats why normal people rely on third party sources for quality assessments, like magazines or sites like this incase of games.
2. Cryptic is not a bad company, they are limited in their resources, just look at the changelogs. They do listen to their players, ground combat was the biggest problem for me and other and they redo it. I complained about klingons after launch, and now i enjoy my klingon(with crafting). Cryptic however is not Blizzard, they simply can't produce content as fast, hell not even Blizzard actually manages to produce content fast enough.
3. Use your Brain. Most people are able to ascertain that offering a LTA at the same time as announcing F2P seems counterintuitive, using your brain will allow you to conclude that there must be a reason. With only the smallest amount of research you will find that the F2P model of CO is similar to that of LotRO, which means your still going to pay if you want the full deal.
4. Nobody is holding a gun to your head forcing you to buy this(i hope), cryptic plays with open cards and its your own damn fault for wasting money on a game you ended up not enjoying. I bought plenty of games i regretted buying later, but i never blamed the company for my own lack of research.
I know its hard for some people to understand, but just because you dislike something does not mean everyone is going to dislike something.
Buy now and enjoy F2P STO in a year from now! It's gonna happen.
Of course anyone can come on here and give their opinion, it is an open forum afterall. But it is merely your opinon and doesnt mean diddly.
This annoucement today is the clearest signal from Cryptic that STOL is not going F2P any time soon. If it were then they would not be selling and advertising Life Time subs, they would not do that then go F2P, thereby pissing off their player base. Of course this is my opinion and my interpretation of this announcement and yes I too could be wrong.
Unless you have access to Cryptic's figures no one can say what they are going to do. Even if you did have access, you would need to know what they are thinking and their plans, not just for to day but for the future, they are not a charity afterall.
Anyway why should they go free to play when they have one of the biggest IPs in history? Maybe they have decided to develop this game further and further, who knows.
One word, LotRO. Going F2P and LTAs have nothing to do with each other in a Freemium model.
Actually, to say that they won't go F2P because they are selling lifetimes is just plain wrong. They are selling CO lifetimes at the same time, and it is on the verge of releasing the F2P side.
They keep saying that they don't have any immediate plans to take STO F2P, and I'll buy that. But I also think that STO will be F2P in the future; whether they are discussing it now or not.
And keep in mind, I have a LT for STO and I enjoy the game.
I want a mmorpg where people have gone through misery, have gone through school stuff and actually have had sex even. -sagil
I enjoyed sto but i dont have money to be at 3 mmos at the same time.
Im currently in dc and wow and i dont have more money to spent for games.Simply because i have other interests as well.
I think sto will find hard times when swtor releases in a few months.
I like both sto and swtor but who doesnt wants to have an adventure with a new chick?
If the F2P model in CO results in a big financial gain like it did with Turbines DDO, then ofc they will go F2P with the "big" brother STO aswell, just like Turbine did with LotRO. Anything else would be just stupid, we are talking about a buisness here, not charity.
And just like in LotRO there will be pros and cons, with all the pros being on the LTAs and subscribers side, and the cons being heaped on the microtransaction and F2P players. The big difference is the free cryptic points allowance, it will allow the former players to get stuff without paying for which they would have had to use their CC even in the old system.
This annoucement today is the clearest signal from Cryptic that STOL is not going F2P any time soon. If it were then they would not be selling and advertising Life Time subs, they would not do that then go F2P, thereby pissing off their player base. Of course this is my opinion and my interpretation of this announcement and yes I too could be wrong.
Unless you have access to Cryptic's figures no one can say what they are going to do. Even if you did have access, you would need to know what they are thinking and their plans, not just for to day but for the future, they are not a charity afterall.
Anyway why should they go free to play when they have one of the biggest IPs in history? Maybe they have decided to develop this game further and further, who knows.
Um... they were selling lifetime subs for CO a year ago and I think they still are.
you do realise the sale starts about the same time champions goes free to play right?
they are selling lts to a ftp game for 240$....ROFL... buyer beware! same goes for sto as most people beleive it will soon be free to play as well.
IF THE ONLY DEFENCE FOR CRITICISM OF A GAME IS CALLING SOMEONE A TROLL OR HATER, THAT SAYS A LOT ABOUT THE QUALITY OF THE GAME
Yeah and I believe that the world is square, doesnt make it true though does it?
Anyway there are different types of F2P models, like the EQ2 one which is very different to the LOTROL model. So even if it goes F2P the Lifer will not be shot out of the water if they are still promoting them now.
Find below the list of things that are being planned for STOL, it is not the same game as it was on release by a country mile (you can walk around your ship now, engineering etc for example) as with all MMOs. So contrary to the nay sayers STOL keeps bigger and better and there is no indication as of yet that it will change.
Also look at DCU Online, they are selling LifeTime Subs for a game that you can cap in 2- 3days, which is shorter than you could do on STOL on its release.
It shows, that at the end of the day, Life Time Subs are for people that are intrinsically interested in an IP so going F2P has no really bearing on their desicion to do so, as long as there is a distinction between a Lifer and a F2P player, which, is definitely evident in the games that have gone F2P recently.
In Testing
These items are currently being tested on either an internal test shard or on TRIBBLE/REDSHIRT
Foundry: Mission Creation Tools
New Playable Vulcan Ship
TNG: All Good Things Uniform
Open Jacket Uniform ("PC Gamer Cover")
Feature Episode Series 3
New playable shuttles including the Delta Flyer
Under Investigation
These issues are hot topics in the QA and CS world. It by no means represents all the bugs we're looking into, but instead new issues that I want you to know we are on top of.
Reports of expired exchange items not being returned to the user
Daily PVP Reward Balance
Fine tuning warp in and out animations
PVP wrap up screens closing too quickly
A way to edit prior captain's log entries
Error Messaging related to "Unable to take down your sale. Please try again later."
Increasing number of players allowed in social zones
Adding a way to obtain the the Guramba Siege Destroyer using in game currencies
Upgrading the amount of content Demo accounts are allowed access to
Ridiculously difficult Borg in STFs
Additional reports of the infamous 1 shotting dual pistol exploration creatures
Better "Aid the Planet" rewards
Distribution of Anomalies in various Star Clusters
Interaction problems in STFs
The Captain's Table
Future Veteran Rewards past 400 days
In Development
These items are actively being worked on by the at this time by the development team.
Feature Episode Series 3 missions
400 Day Veteran Rewards
Ways to boost XP gain while leveling up (new type of consumables)
PVE Mission Queue System (to allow Fleets to run private fleet actions, initiate episode replay etc)
New Ground Combat v 2.0 - major update to weapons and a new over shoulder aim and shoot (optional) reticle system
New Running, Sprinting, and 8 direction of movement animations
New craftable consumable items
New Gorn customization options
New Loading Screens
Imroved Sector Space Map
New Earth Spacedock Exterior and Interior
Andorian Playable Ship
Better ways to promote and inform players about Feature Episodes in game
Ability to spend Atari Tokens as well as Cryptic Points in STO
Reviewing designs of the STFs to determine areas that need improvement and ways to make these episodes better
More voice over and cutscenes in missions
Ongoing support for new Foundry features and updates
In Design Discussions
The lead designers are currently discussing these features for implementation in an upcoming update
Feature Episode Series 4
Duty Officer System (formerly known as the crew system)
New Bonuses, items, craftables, and game mechanics related to Duty Officers
Redesign for Exploration Sectors (and Exploration in general)
Off-Duty Costumes and ways to improve the feature so that costume rules are clearer and better defined
Adding BOFF abilities to power list on the ground (so you can slot them)
New Prometheus, Oberth, Vesta, Ambassador, and Future Enterprise ships
Exchange Updates
STF: The Hive
Long Term
Designs and features being considered for updates further in the future
Converting First Officer to Playable Captain
Fleet Starbases
Fleet Action Updates
More Fleet Actions
More PVP Maps
Updated Game Tutorial and ability to skip it
More iconic locations such as Starfleet Academy, Rura Penthe etc...
Explorable Sol System
Improved Social Planets with social gameplay
More Minigames
More Borg parts for AlienGen
Ability to construct new ships at Starbases
Territory Control War
Deepspace Exploration Concept
Additional Playable Factions (Romulan, Cardassian...)
Android species
Aenar species
Talaxian species
Hologram species
Improved Hair Tech
In Testing
These items are currently being tested on either an internal test shard or on TRIBBLE/REDSHIRT
Foundry: Mission Creation Tools
New Playable Vulcan Ship
TNG: All Good Things Uniform
Open Jacket Uniform ("PC Gamer Cover")
Feature Episode Series 3
New playable shuttles including the Delta Flyer
WOW!!! so lets see...i can PAY 240$ for what in the near future?
- the ability to create missions for cryptic, after all who wants to play a game when they can work for cryptic filling out the woefully lacking content for them?
-2 ships and 2 uniforms which you can pay even more money for in the c-store
-"weekly" episodes that are not actually weekly and really are very little content
pass. like i said buyer beware!
but thanks for pointing out once again how little sto has to offer. i relly like the lengthy part about them essentially re-doing ground combat one year after launch! wonder what could have been if they had finished the game and not released it in a pre-beta state.
IF THE ONLY DEFENCE FOR CRITICISM OF A GAME IS CALLING SOMEONE A TROLL OR HATER, THAT SAYS A LOT ABOUT THE QUALITY OF THE GAME
You just don't get it or accept the fact to some that enjoy the game might take up the offer.
The Foundry is popular. People love creating their own missions. They loved in COH and wanted it in DDO to create their own much like they did for NWN. Correct me if I am wrong but some series of the Star Trek universe were written by fans. I remember seeing that somewhere they would get 1000s of fan written stories for possible episodes. To a star trek fan that loves doing that this is perfect for them. I only wish there was a way to rate submissions.
The weekly episodes are fun. From what I gather looking over the forums people enjoy them. I'm sure you can find some that say the opposite, but I think overall people enjoy them, I did. They have a good storyline and are fun to play. Content that's a matter of opinion. I was satisfied with them.
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