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Yes this game has problems, however...
MsFairview
Member Posts: 28
The community is without a doubt very strong. A really nice and positive atmosphere! I am not sure if it is to do with players coming from FFXI or this game attracts different sorts of people, but it is surely a factor that is keeping this game together.
I really love my Linkshell on Mysidia, the people on it are just a pleasure to speak to and the reason why I remain in the game.
Maybe in competitive games that involve PVP you get a more 'rougher' community compared to a cooperative PVE only game. I am not sure.
Anyway, thanks for reading. 
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The game is designed for drive by kindness too. Ksenia is a Conjurer right now because its the only thing I have leveled above 10 and there is nothing thta blocks me from spamming buffas and heals. I can Chevron my AoE and buff out anyone on my screen. So if I am running along and see a couple of people battling a critter, I can and do, just run over and start healing and buffing them out.
I just did the desert to forest run and there was a lowbie on the edge. He wasnt moving. I am guessing he got somped by the over leveled Carion Chigo that camps the instance point. So I buffed him out and escorted him through the spawn zone. He thanked me over and over and we went our ways.
That aspect of Sandbox to me is great.
I agree, I have been in a few situations like that. Another trait from FFXI I feel.
Strange, I was expecting a little bit more feedback regarding this thread. I suppose many don't appreciate the community side of games any more.
If the game is awful and contentless, who cares how good the community is?
I think it is more than not having "rough" pvp folks. It doesn't have all the pve folks that do not have patience.
Actually I love the socialism and community aspect of MMOs, but only FFXI & FFXIV have delivered what I prefer in recent memory. With LOTRO{kinda} depending on what channels you are in ~ GLFF can be a nightmare sometimes. Sadly from what I see in most other MMOs, the majority seem to spit on community because you don't really need em due to how solo friendly they all are. I recall in my early days while playing XI, groups of us would sit around for hours in Jeuno or out at the tower in Qufim or any number of random location and just talk about strategies and how to overcome certain missions, or how best to set up a PT. On occassion someone in zone chat would ask for help and we'd all run over to help, or raise if need be and meet new players, and earn friendships.
Nowadays, if you ask someone to wait a min{other MMOs}, they get all pissy and you get kicked from the group cause we're wasting their time, and ya gotta wonder why are they playing said MMO to begin with. Nobody has any patience and want reward after reward for doing basically nothing. Oh and saying hi, or being friendly seems to be the hardest thing to do for most. MMO communites are horrendous this generation...le sigh
I hadn't responded here yet, cause like most XIV threads, they usually get highjacked by some uninformed tard spouting crap they know nothing about, other than what some old review said which doesn't apply anymore with recent updates.
{Heh, ^see above^ while I was typing this out, absolutely no regard to the topic at hand, just utter negative nonsense!}
I totally agree! You sound a lot like me.
I loved the grouping in FFXI, it was real treat to chat with new people having fun and was really laid back. Maybe not so much at end game (which I didn't really involve myself in) but the grouping throughout was brilliant!
Yep! I agree with the impatience thing. I think that bottles down to the immaturity of players, not young, because I know 30 year olds that cry like babies. lol But I think games like FFXI filters out the majority of those players. I think grouping is very important, but not just some random grouping but building bonds with people.
No worries about posting. At least someone out there has some sanity left.
Yeah, I never got into the end-game either. I've participated in a few of the events, but was never in an LS that did it steadily. Like most MMOs though I enjoy the journey more than anything, and once I get near tyhe cap I tend to start a new job or character, or game entirely.
Guess its why I'm eager in returning to FFXI, I miss that, especially the camp/pulling PTs, and the community {quiet as it may be} and just helping the random player, or exploring areas of the game I've never been, which there are still quite a few. For instance I've still never been to Sea or Sky before, and dozens of other places.
When I played last, my Mithra is a lvl 77 Paladin, and I'd love to continue up to 90, and be ready for whatever is coming for the final 9 levels...its gotta be something epic, considering the sheer overpowered equipment offered through Abyssea.
Quite frankly my linkshell was pretty good in FFXIV. There were too many fanbois for my liking though that just refused to look at the glaring issues. There was a huge attrition rate in the linkshell and I'm pretty sure it's just a husk now.
Outside of the linkshell I found the community lacking, severely.
Drop the next-gen marketing and people will argue if the game itself has merit.
I have to agree. The community is what is holding it together for the most part. At the moment the only "glaring issue" is lack of content.
My theme song.
The community in this game is not very good IMO.
There are many pleasant peolpe to talk to in linkshells. They are positive and all that, but they are usually people that played FFXI and love grinding mobs 15 hours a day and have no problems with anything in the game even though there are so many.
I was in a nice linkshell, had fun a few days, they were alwasy happy. However, when I would bring up "I wish this was better..." they would never be critical about FFXIV and just say its all good.
The people playing the game are mostly FF fanboys that see nothing wrong with a very flawed game. They can have fun no matter how good or bad the game is and its fine, but i cannot play with this kind of person that is blind to the truth.
GAME TIL YOU DIE!!!!
Every one playing the game knows it has problems. They all have different opinons on what those problems are. No one in any MMO likes it when some one logs in and crys about the same thing over and over.
My theme song.
Bottom line is its not a fun game IMO.
I pre-ordered the collectors edition for myself and my GF, we expected a next generation version of FFXI at the least. We enjoyed FFXI back when it came out which is ancient times compared to modern MMOS of today.
We did not expect FFXIV to be a game with even more outdated controls, interface, PVE, chat, and overall gameplay. The graphics is the only thing updated since FFXI came out. Everything else IMO took a step backwards. I have seen they fixed some stuff with the UI and all, but the game is just not a quality product.
So, even with a nice community which IMO FFXIV has an average oner at best with all the players that don't even speak at all even when you speak to them or next to them, this game will never be worth a monthly fee for me. If it stays F2P, maybe I will login in the future to see how it improves, but for now even free I have no interest as I knwo something that broken cannot be fixed in a couple months.
GAME TIL YOU DIE!!!!
People tend to enjoy games differently. While one person enjoys heavy pvp, another could enjoy heavy PvE. Some don't even care so much for either, but perhaps play for the sociolization of the game.
Final Fantasy XI had a good community, and I am sure XiV does now. I say now because all the people who bought it only because it was the "newest" game on the market have left and moved onto the next "big thing", while the people who love the game have stayed.
I don't actively play it myself, because the linkshells I was in died, and the server population really declined. Also, a severe lack of content led me away.
Good to see people still enjoying it and that the community is strong.
Here is to hoping they release some good content in the future! I haven't uninstalled it yet for a reason!
I am entitled to my opinions, misspellings, and grammatical errors.
It's also no fun when a real re-occuring issue is treated as inconsequential. Just saying.
Drop the next-gen marketing and people will argue if the game itself has merit.
Some really interesting points have made through out this post so far. Community based conversation is popping up more and more lately, from what I have personally noticed.
mmoRPG, this is what bought me in to play fantasy online games. Not solo pvp angry, unfriendly hack hack ubber epic i want i want games.
Getting and deserving respect to group with ppl, yes. forming friendships, not just the, ' got my loot, thx party, bye', I see so much of today.
I also dont understand why its thought of that a game needs millions of subs to survive. Yes ofcourse from a profit side of things its good, but if there are people around in zones playing and the community is happy, stay small and friendly. The fact that the impatient players come and go because the epics are not there could be a good thing in a way.
On the other hand, games being released unfinished and seriously lacking in content is a different matter, and sometiems cannot be denied. But again can boil down to the type of player. Yea trying something new is can be fun, but surely if your happy within a game and with your community, then stay put. There is no need to jump on these hype trains, crap into a new release and solo super charge your way to the end and fast and speedy gonzales.(he is a cartoon mouse btw who goes super fast
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In a nutshell alot can be said for having a strong community and friends behind you to play with, and alot of know this. Lets just hope we can start to rub off onto some more players and bring the RPG back into games
For the most part I think this game is just not for you and never will be. I honestly dont mean that in any negative way. I still think the community in general is better overall. Even outside of LS people know eachother and interact with a lot less negativity than in most online games.
My theme song.
The "new" team need to communicate more. The lack of direction is really killing it.
I've been here for around a month or so and already I'm not logging in all that often.
Something I would like to see them do: Use a grid for retainer and inventory items. So I dont have to scroll, scroll, scroll to get ingredients and see what ones I have and dont have. I can't get that idea to SE though because there is only a 4 times a year one way window, press release from them. You really dont feel like a part of an MMO community in FF14.
They used to put out news and updates 5 times a week on loadstone but ever since the new team took over it's dwindled down to 1 a week if we're lucky. Hopefully that will change soon.
My theme song.
They already said they're working on a new UI specifically for the PC gamer, with drag and drop for skills, abilities and inv.
And then they can turn stuff on?
1 Spirit Dart
2 Frost
3 Blizzard
4 Areo
Frost is a DoT/ Debuff that reduces def to Blizzard. Frost Debuff, hit Blizzard, then hit Areo and do the same damage with Blizzard as I do with Areo. 30 attribute in Wind, 80 in Ice. to boot. These are things I dont really emorage about but I have no closed community forum to bring them up on, I have no ingame bug report system. I get to come here and flale them to the people SE is trying to market to. In context, my comment about the UI suggestion makes more sense. As a clip, it seems like I am bitching. I'm not, not about the UI thing. See where I am going?
I am trying to get into the game, but its many issues slow me down, but the crafting and class system intrigues me. There have only been 2 people that have spoken to me in 3 days, the chat system seems limited, and creates no community channel. I could really use some in game advice but until I find a linkshell i doubt I will be able to do more than grind some classes up.
Impatience... seems to be such a problem these days. Everything now, right now, faster than now... coupled with the most extreme individualism ("I! me! my!"), it soon becomes "I wanna do MY thing NOW to get ME stuffz--and I need you so MOVE!".
Makes me wonder:
- Aren't people mostly impatient in some games because the environment (or something) is actually boring when idle? One of my best friends is a pile of patience irl. Likewise when he played XIV he was just "happy to spend some time in the world for it soothed [him]". Patient guy, I'm telling you. Yet when he's on WoW he gets impatient before 1 minute of downtime/afk in raid or dungeon... starts jumping around as if he were saying "shall we go? shall we go?" in a spamming manner. Go figure.
- Isn't there some form of expectation that's maybe too different from one person to another (in some cases), hence the group can't find a common rythm, a consensual atmosphear, or pace? What I mean is that some are there to chat a bit, play a bit, trade a bit, and define "a good moment in a MMOG" as just that; whereas others might define "a good moment" as a profitable XP/gil session... none is wrong, none is right, both are perceptions and result of different sets of values. It's obvious that a given environment (world) will play a role in what kind of players it retains (harsh worlds, harsh rules, high difficulty may attract and retain achievers and competitors who pretty much live by what they call action and other call impatience; softer worlds with wide hubs may attract socially-driven people that define "nice" as communicative, and so on). I other words, I believe that, maybe, not all groups will work. And I'm not talking about beating the game. I'm talking about your, dear reader, definition of a 'good time'.
I found FFXIV to be a bit less socializing, tried getting into a decent linkshell on Mysidia only to be greeted by fill this form and our council will see after that. That is a bit of a turn off for a game that don't really have a end game. But FF players are nicer in general.
After playing Rift beta and finding there is no magic for me there, was wondering if I simply shouldn't go back to FFXI. I would restart from the beginning and worry a bit about population and getting somewhere. I don't exclude going back to FFXIV when they add a little bit more stuff, the quests coming up should be a good start.
Egh?
You talking too sweetly to the little boys still lingering in this game?
I have to say they've been the most rude and stuck up bunch of selfish prudes I've had the esteemed dishonor of gaming with in a long time.
Maybe it's my server, I forget its name. But I farmed and gathered up about 50k worth of gil to get some nice equpiment I had bought repaired by another player to full and offer a decent amount of pay and the materials and NO one wants to help me. It's been weeks! I log in during busy times, calmer times whatever to get my spear repaired and I mostly get in return
"level bs noob" in return.
Even when I got into a link shell they'd just bitch about leves and offer no real support.
I have seen this attitude sadly, when we were during beta, I had made a friend who when I was asking questions treated me with this attitude, I think it contributed to the overall factor of staying mostly away. With the population dwindling, surely they should be more welcoming of people with real questions and wanting help.
If I got into a nice ls, maybe I would return there and have fun socializing. Playing by myself without any chatter is a bit boring.