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Single player RPG's vs. MMORPG's poll

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  • yaminsuxyaminsux Member UncommonPosts: 973

    SRPG for me.

    RPG in MMOs is non-existent nowadays.

  • ShodanasShodanas Member RarePosts: 1,933

    I voted for SP RPG's. Although i am an active MMO subscriber and enjoy their social aspect no MMORPG can give me the immersion and story telling a high quality single player RPG offers. Baldurs Gate II, Planescape Torment, Gothic 1&2, KotOR, Morrowind, Oblivion, Mass Effect, The Witcher. I've spent hundreds of hours on the above mentioned and others. Just me and a good headset exploring their worlds and living the stories through my characters. I hope that TOR will come closer to the immersion & story telling aspect of SP RPG's than any other MMO.

    Btw, anyone else waiting hard for The Witcher 2 Assassins of Kings? I saw a preview and the game looks fantastic. I think it will be better than Dragon Age 2. 

  • FlummoxedFlummoxed Member Posts: 591

    The key here is "GOOD".

    Good single player rpg's are much richer and deeper in terms of plot, character, setting, story arcs, etc.,  than any mmorpg could ever be, yet...

    you're playing alone.  The shared experience counts for much, yet...

    I enjoy playing mmorpg's solo 99.44% of the time.

    For me the best description of a Good mmorpg is:  "Playing Alone Together."

    The community and camaraderie is there if / when you want it , else you can turn it off and adventure solo.

  • SlampigSlampig Member UncommonPosts: 2,342

    Where is the BOTH button?

    That Guild Wars 2 login screen knocked up my wife. Must be the second coming!

  • VryheidVryheid Member Posts: 469

    This is silly. The point of MMOs is not to compete with traditional RPGs, they just can't do it. Games like Fallout New Vegas and Mass Effect go beyond anything that has ever been accomplished in an MMORPG, simply because the devs have more experience in their genre and don't have to worry about creating an server for thousands of people to play on. When I'm looking for a chance to "role play", I will choose a single player game simply because their storylines are so vastly superior. If I am looking for great interactive multiplayer I will choose an MMO.

  • yuin93yuin93 Member Posts: 6

    half, half. Huh?

  • mkarl91mkarl91 Member Posts: 7

    I go for both, as long the games has new storyline and gameplay. Single RP has its own enjoyable phase of gameplay as long as the storyline takes you off to a wonderland type environment. MMORPG takes to a world of social and sometimes political world of gaming you can't live doing solo most of the time.

  • cowboyhugbeecowboyhugbee Member Posts: 28

    They both have their positives and negatives, of course.  For me, nothing will ever compare to the Final Fantasy VI's, the Chrono Triggers, even the Tales Of series.

    Phantasy Star Online however holds a special place in my heart as well, so I don't know. 

     

    I'm just as guilty as anyone else, but I think all gamers should learn how to take our games for what they are and stop comparing them to some unreachable goal that we create in our minds.

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  • LilithooLilithoo Member Posts: 11
    i like both.but vote mmorpg.cuz sometimes will be more fun playing with friends.

    lol NEVER VENTURE OUT ALONE

  • fivorothfivoroth Member UncommonPosts: 3,916

    Some of the RPGs I have played were amazing, memorable! I still remember some of the storylines! This is why RPGs > MMORPGs.

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  • xKingdomxxKingdomx Member UncommonPosts: 1,541

    Voted for Single Player RPG, due the undeniable fact that, Single player has a much high amount of variety in terms of genre and great stories told by convenional and unconvenional methods, partly due to the lesser development times, something that is unavoidable in the MMO category.

    Single player RPG have


    • Traditional Fantasy - Dragon Age: Origin, Baldur's gate

    • Historical Fantasy(with a touch of sci-fi) - Assassin's Creed

    • Sandbox Fantasy - Elder Scrolls

    • Sci-fi - Mass Effect, Dead Space, Deux Ex?

    • Sci-fi/sandbox - Fallout 3

    • FPShooter - CoD (blah), Battlefield, Halo, etc

    • Sport - Top Spin, Fifa, PES, NBA 2K

    • Superhero - Infamous (third person shooter), Prototype (Hack n Slash)

    • Japanese Fantasy - FF series, Kingdom Hearts

    • and for some, the CORPG guild wars? (not how I would describe it, but some likes to call it that)

    • AND finally, the horrific incident called FFXIII, yes the FFXIV counterpart in the single player genre

    MMORPG, at least in recent years, are plague by the generic fantasy genre of human,elves, dwarves, etc, go kill those 5 boars over there and collect that box I dropped over that, then move onto the next area. I wasn't old enough to play games like EQ, UO, etc which I heard great recommendations of. Since the success of WoW, which I am still unwilling to try since the seemingly draconian lifestyle it tends to lead (my friends is constantly on it like.......anytime I call him), has stalled the advancement in gaming technologies to compare with the Single Player Counterpart. Yes we do get the occassional fun feature in one game, but one feature only will never propell the game into the spotlight, simply because the other features are often sloppy at best.


    Take Rift as an example, very polish, very well made, with a dynamic feature like rift, then comes the realisation that rift is actually not the main point in this game, it almost serves no important gaming changing elements in the story, other than the invasion from a bad ass character, the occassional zone wide event, and serving as the open world end game raid content. Trion making one of their widely advertised feature (along with the ascended soul system) as a alternate event to the normal boring quest was just a very sloppy design. Confident in your feature? Make people experience it.


    If we can get a developer that is willing to understand the wants of players, let say putting in a lot of features that is well liked, new and innovative, not necessarily original (cos original does not equal good), we can get a lot further in this business. Let say, if we can take the rifts of RIFT, interactive combat system like Blade and Soul (possibly TERA?), dynamic events as quest from Guild Wars 2, the immersive story telling of the good ol' bioware (not saying SWTOR since we have no idea how that game's story will turn out), and depart from the heavy reliance on the stats and hidden dice roll. We might get a game that is engaging on the eyes and minds. 


     


    If you have read up to this point, you probably think I am a advocate for the Single player games, well I'm not. Yes I like to play single player games, but I'm constantly anticipating the next and potentially great mmo. I believe MMO is the future of gaming, at least online gaming, the fact that a lot single player games now integrates online features into their games to make it more enjoyable is the number one undeniable fact

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  • Loke666Loke666 Member EpicPosts: 21,441

    A small studio can still make a good single player RPG game with good enough polish. MMOs are a lot more expensive and that means a studio can experiment a lot more with the singleplayer RPGs.

    Yes, RPGs are better than MMOs because they are a lot more diverse. A single player RPG also usually last a lot shorter time than a MMO and that means it needs a lot less timesinks and grinding.

    On the other hand is it not even possible in most RPGs to spend as much time as in a MMO.

    And MMOs have a social value no single pöayer game can match, and few other multiplayer games for that matter.

    I still have to vote RPGs since all MMOs are coming from a small handful games and the genre evolves at snailspeed. The only people trying something new neither have the budget nor talent to pull it through.

  • Loke666Loke666 Member EpicPosts: 21,441

    Originally posted by xKingdomx

    Voted for Single Player RPG, due the undeniable fact that, Single player has a much high amount of variety in terms of genre and great stories told by convenional and unconvenional methods, partly due to the lesser development times, something that is unavoidable in the MMO category.

    Single player RPG have


    • Traditional Fantasy - Dragon Age: Origin, Baldur's gate

    • Historical Fantasy(with a touch of sci-fi) - Assassin's Creed

    • Sandbox Fantasy - Elder Scrolls

    • Sci-fi - Mass Effect, Dead Space, Deux Ex?

    • Sci-fi/sandbox - Fallout 3

    • FPShooter - CoD (blah), Battlefield, Halo, etc

    • Sport - Top Spin, Fifa, PES, NBA 2K

    • Superhero - Infamous (third person shooter), Prototype (Hack n Slash)

    • Japanese Fantasy - FF series, Kingdom Hearts

    • and for some, the CORPG guild wars? (not how I would describe it, but some likes to call it that)

    • AND finally, the horrific incident called FFXIII, yes the FFXIV counterpart in the single player genre

    FPS games and sport games are not RPGs. Not even close. YOu do have a good point besides them however.

  • KenFisherKenFisher Member UncommonPosts: 5,035

    Didn't vote... I prefer cooperative RPG at a LAN party.


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  • LoktofeitLoktofeit Member RarePosts: 14,247

    If the market had more Wizardry and Ultima styled CRPGs, I'd be a happy camper.

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  • xKingdomxxKingdomx Member UncommonPosts: 1,541

    Originally posted by Loke666

    Originally posted by xKingdomx

    Voted for Single Player RPG, due the undeniable fact that, Single player has a much high amount of variety in terms of genre and great stories told by convenional and unconvenional methods, partly due to the lesser development times, something that is unavoidable in the MMO category.

    Single player RPG have


    • Traditional Fantasy - Dragon Age: Origin, Baldur's gate

    • Historical Fantasy(with a touch of sci-fi) - Assassin's Creed

    • Sandbox Fantasy - Elder Scrolls

    • Sci-fi - Mass Effect, Dead Space, Deux Ex?

    • Sci-fi/sandbox - Fallout 3

    • FPShooter - CoD (blah), Battlefield, Halo, etc

    • Sport - Top Spin, Fifa, PES, NBA 2K

    • Superhero - Infamous (third person shooter), Prototype (Hack n Slash)

    • Japanese Fantasy - FF series, Kingdom Hearts

    • and for some, the CORPG guild wars? (not how I would describe it, but some likes to call it that)

    • AND finally, the horrific incident called FFXIII, yes the FFXIV counterpart in the single player genre

    FPS games and sport games are not RPGs. Not even close. YOu do have a good point besides them however.

    Sorry, I was more refering to the whole Single Player vs. Massively Multiplayer Online, a bit out of the topic :P

    Since there are mmofps and mmo sport, I thought it was fair to list them in.

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  • Paradigm68Paradigm68 Member UncommonPosts: 890

    mmo's killed singleplayer rpg's for me. Well not killed but certainly kneecapped.  After playing mmo's I lost the flavor of standalones. I realized it when Oblivion came out. I was very excited about it, but after I started playing, the thought that I was the only real person in the whole gameworld kept popping into my head. Like being on a no-pop server in an mmo.  Completely lost the desire to keep playing the game after a few days. Sad image

  • will_fwill_f Member Posts: 4

    To make it simple if a player is a loner and wants powerful items right away go play single player games but if the player wants to interact with other people and wants to collect the hard way and has lots of time in his/her hands go for MMO.

  • StizzledStizzled Member RarePosts: 2,174

    Voted for MMOs, there just aren't any really good ones. They can be fun when you just want to run around with friends, but they don't offer any real RPG experiences, not for me anyways. There will always be decent single player RPGs, hell we have another Elder Scrolls comming down the pipeline. But, there are no longer any true MMO'RPG"s, just multiplayer games set mostly in fantasy worlds, that only offer limited customization through gear grinding.

  • GrayGhost79GrayGhost79 Member UncommonPosts: 4,775

    unfortunately MMORPG's are so far behind Single Player RPG's it's not even funny. To be honest I'd actually like to see more good Co-op RPG's. 

     

    When GW2 hits the scene I may change my mind but as it stands now if you want some socialization it's MMO, if you want to play a good game it's Single Player. I mean the MMO thats the most popular right now  is WoW and it's decades behind single player games. 

     

    Single player games offer better mechanics, better stories, better game play and often times sadly better replay and sometimes more initial gameplay. 

     

    Single player games also offer more diversity, you have good sandboxes, shooters, Adventure games, themeparks, puzzle games, you name it it's pretty much out there as far as single player games go. 

     

    MMO's? Well you pretty much have RPG's and the rare venture out into the other genre's. Even then you are pretty much limited to themeparks with the rare sandbox. 

     

    I'd like to see better MMO's but that seems like I'm asking for to much because pretty much the same formula is used without question with few exceptions. 

     

    So in lieu of better MMO's I simply want to see more good Co-op games as that seems like it's something I'm more likely to get. 

     

  • raz3199raz3199 Member Posts: 9

    i want to choose both. hahaha, but really i started as an rpg gamer before.

  • dragonteersdragonteers Member Posts: 1

    There really should be a both option. A good single player rpg can then turn into a multiplayer rpg or even vice versa. Just look at the Diablos, and theres a number of others. I think in the future the majority of games will ahve some way to connect with other people and keep playing

  • Aison2Aison2 Member CommonPosts: 624

    Currently mmorpgs are lousy rpgs who cover it by social elements as its more  fun to interact with players.

    If you recall that those online people dont mean much more than the people you pass by on the street you might tend to offline rpgs more as they offer generally  better story , combat and graphics while demanding less grind to keep you subbed.  Though one might argue that dlc's became worse than subs.

     

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  • Kyle9Kyle9 Member Posts: 5

    Both have good merit, but i voted for MMORPG for i love the replay value and i always want to go dungeon run with my friends.

  • legend55legend55 Member Posts: 155

    I think its like 50-50, but I voted for MMORPG because I like to see some newly better feeling MMORPG's. I am certain that in the future there will be a new breed of MMORPG's that make you feel a better gaming experience that you never felt before.

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