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Turns Out a New Player Can PVP 1 vs 1.
The infamous Ginger Magician taken out by a 2 and a half month old character 1 vs 1.
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This mean nothing. Ginger is known to play melee only, no spells, no archery. A 1 months old player starting with Archery and spells can easily beat him by kiting. Ginger is an RPer. If he say he play melee only, he play melee only like a dwarf that he is.
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Yea, but with the game now 90% melee due to magic nerfs (ray spamming aside), it doesnt matter, a vet just lost to a new player. That 90 or less damage from the bow is made up by having 100/100 melee skill.
The definition of insanity: doing the same thing over and over expecting different results.
It's not a new toon, at least not your normal new toon.
The guy has attributes of someone that's put in about 6 months worth of game time. Normal 2 month old characters are not going to have atts. in the 50s.
Either the guy is older then 2 months or he's AFK macroing a LOT.
When you only use melee and nothing else, its a whole other story. Between the sprint line to get to his opponent, he never equip a staff for damage or bow like all other player does.
To be a good player in DF you have to setup your keyboard in a way that you will be able to swtich fast between weapons and abilities without delay.
Also, Ginger is a dwarf and claim that Alfar are overpowered because of their hitbox while all forumfallers are dennying him.
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this is incorrect. I have seen him use necro which isnt childs play magic.
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You call a 2.5 months char a noob char? Question: how much DF time does someone have to invest into DF to not be a noob?
On a side note, you can't really compare 2 chars with time, because you have to know how much skill points you have. I mean, you can be a level 80 in WoW in a few days if you are realy hardcore. 95% of people are not that hardcore. Its like comparing Hawkins to a mentally challenged person - they both spend X number of hours researching something, with Hawkins developing hyperspace engine, and the other person drawing a nice picture with 2 birds and maybe a dead squirrel.
Still, 2.5 months a noob???
I am the type of player where I like to do everything and anything from time to time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor - pre-WW2 genocide.
To the quesiton, yes, but barely
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In term of character stats, yes. In term of character experience, no.
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Well duh, doesn't everyone know that the boring goblin grind exceeds 2.5 months?
No more. With the new HP fix and skills grind reduce, it took me less then 3 hours to get reed of all the goblin quests and move on to the next mob. At the end of my trial time, i could even kill Centaurs.
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2 and a half months is actually a long time in the game.. Hardly new, lol.
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To players that hop around limonade MMOs that you can cap in a week or two, 2 months maybe sounds like a long time but old school type MMORPGs like DFO are made for a long term player, you know...as intended for the genre heh so yes, 2+ months is still a noob for many MMOs including DFO that has a steep learning curve, kinda like EVE.
I care about your gaming 'problems' and teenage anxieties, just not today.
Back then round the release date of darkfall, you were still new after 2-3 months because the grind was so slow unless you did some illegal activities to advance fast.
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This is the reason why DF will never be popular.
Unlike other old school mmorpg, DF got open world pvp + full loot. Not having a chance to fight back a vet after 3 months even if you have the skills/spells and enough player skill is a problem for that type of game. If UO had the same grind back then UO would had never been known teal today.
How it is, a brain new guild with brain new members coming from an other game trying DF cannot even hold a clan castle on their own. A solo raider will get in and kill them all.
Plus, DF dont have enough sand in the box to have that huge grind. What players do instead, illegal activity that will only get them kicked and not banned anymore to raise their abilities and be viable then competitive faster.(It seem like AV are tired to ban players because they know what damage they did and what they dont even plan to fix.)
Quests are useless i keep hearing. Best thing they should had come out with is all quests rewarding you with skill and stats points just like Runescape do. RS may suck, but they got the best quests system ever made in any mmorpg.
RS is an other game where you can max everything, but players all got a role. None are clones of an other unless they finally maxed out all skills in game. The reason why, because in RS, the more combat skills you learn, the slower it is to raise the next number. DF dont have that and the reason we easily notice that all players become the same at the end. An other note, in RS, the stronger monster you hit, the more exp you get from him. In DF, its worst. The more you slash, the more exp you get.
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#1 - If you can't hold your own after 3 months you need to re-evaulate what you are doing
#2 - Sand is put into the box over time. More sand has been put into DFO than WoW had at this stage
Ok, fair enough. However, the following post by Friagrim caught my eye:
"Ginger Magician.... I recently did a series of tests with my 3 month old alfar friend involving me standing in one spot while he just pounded on me, while I just sat there and healed through it, forever, and ever, and ever. I also let him gear in r50's and plate with me in studded with r0's. I'm a huge ass ork and never once was I under 75% hp at the end of one of our fights. How the fuck can you stand sucking at life this much? You're even a fat little dorf, and you STILL whine about hit boxes rofl. Meanwhile me and my mahirim buddies have no problem owning ze teeny alfar with our "monstrous" toons. God, you really do suck. Do you just completely lose it in PvP and just start spinning around mashing buttons? ROFL!!!!!
Keep in mind that he plays alot, and most of the time if I'm playing and he is not I play on his guy. So I can pretty much guarantee my friend is worlds ahead of Leg End in terms of progresssion. God you just suck."
A 3 month noob not able to outdamage the other guy's healing himself... strange, no?
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor - pre-WW2 genocide.
I agree with Real. Zeno, with your logic, if you put a 1 day old player into a warhulk and he kills someone who has no life and plays DF since launch 20 hours a day, that would still count as "GASP: a 1 days toon just killed a 10000000 days old toon". If the guy really is RPer and he never used archery/magic to counter, then yeah, you gotta look at it from a perspective.
Strange though, I read the original topic (on page 3 now) and GM never brought that up - were they both meleing without magic/archery? Or the alfar did use something beside melee?
Second question, how much smaller are alfars? (from the dwarves)
I am the type of player where I like to do everything and anything from time to time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor - pre-WW2 genocide.
perspective as a LOT to do with it. DF does not exist in a vaccum. Its only fair to at least mention how other MMO's do it. yes its true if you equipt a nooby with crazy gear his 200 whatever HP's can still take down a vet with 400hp.
However, in most MMO's he one, could not even suit up in such gear and two the spread in hit points would be more like 1:100000 instead of a 1:2 ratio
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How others mmo do it, a lvl 80 cannot even attack a level 20. They cannot even attack a lvl 69. For the fairness, i saw a level 66 or lower killing lvl 70 players back in BC in a video.
So if you want to compar how other mmorpg do it, pretend that DF start at level 70 and the cap to learn everything in game is level 80. It wont take that long to finally compete vs other players im telling you...
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Lol, like that is even possible. Do you even know how weak the self-heals in Darkfall are? If anything the person hitting had a really low weaponskill as well as him having 5 nourishment bonuses from the longest lasting fuds and using greater health potions.
this is somewhat my point around perspective.
There was a poster who complained how bad DF was becuase the ocean didnt rock the boat during storms. Never mind its the only MMO out there were you can even have a boat in the first place, let alone use it to tear down a city with you and your closest 100 friends. I am not saying everyone should lower expecations to what other MMO's do but some level of persective should be in order otherwise its like like saying 'gravity in real life is just terrible and should be removed becuase it limits my ability to fly'
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1 Year is a good mark to be called a VET