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'The' mech game i've been looking for? ...meh.
One of my first ever loves in gaming has always been mechs. Giant, hulking robots loaded with weaponry and all that, the 'Mechwarrior' series, and even 'Armored Core' to an extent. So when I finally received my confirmation for the beta of my very first mech MMO, hell yea, I was pretty excited.
Little was I aware of the giant pile of mediocre I was about to step in.
Now, I don't mean mediocre in a 'bad' sense, far from it, but more like... the sort of thing that kinda makes you play a game for about a day, then sort of go 'meh...' and uninstall it.
I suppose I was just expecting something a little more badass.
Instead, the whole game sort of moves along at this slow, leisurley pace. The rather impressivley detailed models of the mechs and floating cities you encounter are slighly dulled by the barren, lifeless environment around you.
If you'll excuse the comparison, it honestly felt like Eve Online... but on the ground. With mechs.
If you don't mind a game that slowly unfolds around you, as you sit back and watch your mech slowly make thier way to the next destination, or if you don't mind the auto-fighting system of you and another mech circle-strafing each other as you auto-blast away.. then by all means, give it a shot.
But, if you're looking for a faster paced, trigger happy, metal-and-smoke-and-ass blowing up everywhere sort of thing... you might want to look somewhere else.
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Almost word for word how I felt.
If GM had kept up with technology like the computer industry has, we would all be driving $25 cars that got 1000 MPG - Bill Gates
I was initially quite impressed with the game - the variety of mech and armaments/equipment, while not massive, gives you some decent options for choosing your build, the detail that has gone into the models is pretty good and there is cetainly a load of area to explore and quest in.
The early game is quite a lot of grind, to upgrade your weapons and sell enough loot to upgrade your mech. Gathering and mining are a little complex, but the crafting system also looks detailed and varied enough to provide quite a lot of value and entertainment.
I was disappointed with the combat system, as once again it pretty much removes all skill from the process, revolving around targeted weapons and percentage chances to hit with each shot. Very much like Eve in this way. You could control the movement and make some use of natural cover, but when I saw mobs shooting through their colleagues to hit me, my face fell at yet another game where nothing is solid and you can ghost through mobs and other players as if they are not there.
Worth a look, particularly for the explorer and crafter types, but I hope that the combat ca
be improved before release. I'm not quite to "meh" yet, but not something I'll be watching religiously.
I like the slow, methotical nature of MMO's. I think they've gotten completely out of control with leveling to cap in a month, burning out on endgame content which forces you to reroll alts and pray for an expansion. I don't get that feeling with this game.
Perpetuum is like Eve on the ground, which is why I like it. Eve is a great game and I think Pertetuum will take this genre a step in the right direction. If you want fast levels, loot handed to you and praying for expansions so you can suffer a little more time in game, go play WoW.
Hi Ultimate - think you've misunderstood what he's complaining about. In Mechwarrior the entire aiming before shooting, which weapon to use, the variety of weapons, watching your heatsinks and generally trying to turn your mech to protect the damaged side of it... is all part of mech games. And very enjoyable it is too.
So I think he's complaining the combat is like eve - target, auto-shoot, make coffee, come back and hope your still alive...
Which kinda takes all the fun out of it.
As apposed to saying he wants it all on a plate and now, he's kinda saying the main point for playing a mech game isn't here.
Enjoy!
I too feel the pace of combat is a bit slow. Some people obviously like this pace. Need to check out the official forums and see what consensus there is if any. Just going into open beta, so it may still be open to change. Otherwise, impresed with the tools in the game, it is a good start for a sandbox.
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Perpetuum is not really a mech game. It is a robot game. You control a remote operated version of the native robots. You will have to wait for someone to make a BattleTech game, if it can ever be done due to the eternal legal battles.
Its slow but atleast you could use the WASD keys and actually have to pay attention to both optimal range and terrain.
Playing: Rift, LotRO
Waiting on: GW2, BP
have to agree I am with the OP, I want to target and blow off individual limbs, get lucky with a head shot. Was hoping more for mechwarrior, but even the size and scale of the game is off, I swear the robots are about 3 feet tall.
If they had a greater sense of size and didnt copy eve so much I think I would be into it. I actually play eve, but for some reason I dont like there fighting stucture of eve for a mech game.
Where in any of the posts did anyone mention any of the things that you used to throw in the go play wow flame? I think people want a larger than life mech game not just eve on the ground I know I do.I will certainly try it but if the combat is as boring as eves i doubt I will stick with it for long.
Err yea you do realise the following do you....?
- Its not eveen out yet
- What you currently see is just the 'skeleton' or 'framework' of what it will one day be.
- Its based on eve's mechanics.
- MMO's have things called content upgrades and patches.
- If enough of the community asks for certain mechwarrior features i am sure it will come [assuming its not already being planned if not coded].
- When eve came out it didnt even have 70% of the planned features at launch.
- All MMO'S dont have every feature expected at launch.
- The game is not based on wows instant gratification its based on a certain loose form of realism.
In short if you want a sandbox mechwarrior mmo with a similar success to eve with stuff like heat controll and blowing arms off [one day] and a good economy like eve has as well as a good community based on one server. And a eve like mmo that has learnt from EvE' successes and failures then play this game but be patient too and try to enjoy the journey.
Another great example of Moore's Law. Give people access to that much space (developers and users alike) and they'll find uses for it that you can never imagine. "640K ought to be enough for anybody" - Bill Gates 1981
1.The point of my reply to duck was mainly to stop trying to use wow as a flame especially when the op said nothing about wow or anything about the points he was using wow as a flame it is getting very old get over wow move on with your life.
2.It is not out yet true but there are enough youtube gameplay videos to see what it looks like and no nda so plenty of people who have tried it that expressed their impressions of it being like Eve to the point of basically ripping it off.
In short mechwarrior?-looks more like robots to me,nothing in the scaling gives the impression of being anything close to it.
Every time I see that reply, I wanna kill a puppy. WIth a shotgun!
ultimateduck, for the sake of the puppies of this world, go read a book, stop being so.. less bright.
People thinking about the game as EVE Online rip off is getting tired after 10 months.
You will be surprised about the game....
Actually I've played it in a beta..something. About 2 months ago i think.
There is no resemblance between Perpetuum and a mech game.
The interface is that of EVEs, 1:1. The bots are.. ok at first glance. I didn't try crafting, just hunting mobs. That kinda gets old quickly.
Maybe I'll join in another trial.. not sure. It kinda bummed me out.
I like it just because it gives Eve some direct competition... something Eve has lacked for too long. Competition is a good thing for the consumer. I think CCP has been getting a little too distracted w/ trying to develop too many things at once, not really worrying about anyone stealing their niche market... hopefully this game will give them a little slap in the face.
I'm personally more into the space thing than robots... but 5 years ago, I'd have been all over this game. I think it has a bright future.
I'm giving it a go.
I tried the beta and its certainly not a fast paced game if anyone is looking for that. But personally, that's what my Xbox 360/PS3 is for. I don't like playing very fast paced games on my PC. I usually like story and questing and such as combat all day all the time gets boring.
MMOs I like a little slower with different things to do. I wanted to play Eve years ago but couldn't get into it right away. Then when I tried, it felt like I was way behind the curve as I got blasted by people who had been training for years.
With this game it's only $10/mo to keep growing skills while AFK. I have a feeling I'm not playing this everyday (or even every week) come SWTOR or GW2, but when I play I like knowing I'll have just as many skillpoints to spend as everyone else did who was playing since launch and not trying to play catchup.
"TO MICHAEL!"
The combat is "meh". If the combat is going to be as slow as it is, it should be more like naval ship combat or (gasp!) the ship combat of STO. By that I mean have more strategy than trying to run behind a hill or around a building or something.
Perhaps it improves as you get more skills or something, but then it's just WoW combat with Mechs. Perhaps in PvP it's more exciting or something. I dunno, my impression was "meh".
Other than the combat, I see this game doing very well and the devs doing a good bit of expanding and upgrading to the game because people will enjoy playing the game, even with the combat setup the way it is.
I can not remember winning or losing a single debate on the internet.
I agree with OP. It sums it up nicely. This game isn't bad but it sure as hell is slow. I truely find EVE more exciting then this game. Its just preference but the game is so damn slow when you have to walk to your mission objective. At least in EVE you can warp to the location.
Congratz to the Devs for making an indie game that is not complete crap but man is it slllooooowwww.
Playing: PO, EVE
Waiting for: WoD
Favourite MMOs: VG, EVE, FE and DDO
Any person who expresses rage and loathing for an MMO is preposterous. He or she is like a person who has put on full armor and attacked a hot fudge sundae.
It pretty much lost my interest when it turned out they were gonna be humanoid sized. OP, you're telling me that they move and act slowly, sluggishly despite being humansized. It's like the worst of both worlds.
I was a complete MW2 addict from the start, and one of the biggest reasons was the very beginning of the mission; hearing that baby fire up and tromp around like the monstrous, hulking behemoth is was. Monstrous 12 pack missile launchers firing off, tearing the bejeezus out of everything.
I dunno what itch this game might scratch, but I don't see it scratching the mech itch for anybody.
if you like it to open 5 windows in the menue to only activate the mech...and for each equipment also....if the mech has hmm 5 slots ..u need 25 minutes befor u see the mech walkin...beta impression...
hours and hours no action..grindfest...the fist mech looks like an bug...to kill 1 enemy 1 minute...lol it is really indi....for menue and open window fetish people
same like eve....lame..sorry but there is no fun no mmo..most of the time is see only the menue to get equip weapon ammo...rest of the time long time runs to the quest points..kill 20 of this...kill 20 of this....and the long way back to the start point...and the massiv window open menue again....
a little question..why each gamer get an closed beta account when the closed startet?...easy answer....not enough beta tester ..now open beta runs...and log in ....hmmm you will see 1000 of players? no! log in and test it...and yu see...hmmm
sorry but ist for hardcore fans..hardcore grinder...and people whit enough time to spend to see more then weeks of grinding.
Is that english? o.o
i expect... for a person... who has ... to type... dots every... other phase... the game... must be... very complicated... and boring... after all... you don't... need to... use your... period button... when you... use your mouse... to interface with... windows.
EVE is certainly not just target and auto fire. It seems that way at first, but if you want to hang in pvp, solo or fleet, you need to learn the details of transversal speeds, optimal ranges, fall off ranges, damage types and resistances, turret tracking speeds, radar signature sizes and more.
If the combat is even half as detailed as EVE's it should be good, at least once the community has begun to grasp it's finer points.
There is action in the game, but it's not an action game like MW. If you are looking for something like MW, you need to try MWX or something like that. PO isn't it. It's good at what it is, but it's not MW.
MechWarrior Online would be pretty cool though...
I can not remember winning or losing a single debate on the internet.
+1 QFT
And to all of you who are talking about EvE and how dull and slow it is: Its hard to belive u guys have tried it, EvE is maybe the most complex MMO out there, and if u have ever watched an EvE pvp tourny u would have known its pretty fast, require alot of skill and alot of planning.
and another important thing, EvE aint made for solo-pvp even if it is possible compared to other mmo's.
i am not saying EvE is perfect, far from it, but its one of the best if u see it from an objective point of view and ignore personal preferences.
ps: sorry for bad english.