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Crashing issues for swtor PAX demo

WarbandWarband Member UncommonPosts: 723

http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=193105&page=47

Seems a bit weird that a demo built specifically for showing the game off appears to be having some serious stability issues, hopefully it's all ok but it's a bit worrying and kinda weirdly makes you wonder about the competence of Bioware's coder's. The good news is according to the guy says the combat "feels" good. 

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  • Luthor_XLuthor_X Member Posts: 431

    Originally posted by Warband

    http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=193105&page=47

    Seems a bit weird that a demo built specifically for showing the game off appears to be having some serious stability issues, hopefully it's all ok but it's a bit worrying and kinda weirdly makes you wonder about the competence of Bioware's coder's. The good news is according to the guy says the combat "feels" good. 

     

    It could just be a piece of faulty hardware in the testing rig.

  • jp4lyfejp4lyfe Member UncommonPosts: 165

    Originally posted by Warband

    http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=193105&page=47

    Seems a bit weird that a demo built specifically for showing the game off appears to be having some serious stability issues, hopefully it's all ok but it's a bit worrying and kinda weirdly makes you wonder about the competence of Bioware's coder's. The good news is according to the guy says the combat "feels" good. 

    Actually those demos can be a pain in the butt.

    After every 15minutes or however long they allow people to play they have to reset all the zones, reset the toons back to the tests starting level etc. Then let the next wave of people come into the room and play.

     

    Rinse and repeat all day, it's not too shocking.

  • WarbandWarband Member UncommonPosts: 723

    Originally posted by Luthor_X

    Originally posted by Warband

    http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=193105&page=47

    Seems a bit weird that a demo built specifically for showing the game off appears to be having some serious stability issues, hopefully it's all ok but it's a bit worrying and kinda weirdly makes you wonder about the competence of Bioware's coder's. The good news is according to the guy says the combat "feels" good. 

     

    It could just be a piece of faulty hardware in the testing rig.

    True but still very weird... you'd think they have all this stuff checked thoroughy multiple times since it is a public demo and shouldn't all developers being using the same hardware. I haven't heard of any problems with other games. Let's hope it's nothing.


    Originally posted by jp4lyfe

    Originally posted by Warband

    http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=193105&page=47

    Seems a bit weird that a demo built specifically for showing the game off appears to be having some serious stability issues, hopefully it's all ok but it's a bit worrying and kinda weirdly makes you wonder about the competence of Bioware's coder's. The good news is according to the guy says the combat "feels" good. 

    Actually those demos can be a pain in the butt.

    After every 15minutes or however long they allow people to play they have to reset all the zones, reset the toons back to the tests starting level etc. Then let the next wave of people come into the room and play.

     

    Rinse and repeat all day, it's not too shocking.

    Still it seems extremely rare for the game to actually crash and this seemed to have happened to a few people. Can't tell if it was one server.

    Anyway it was probably nothing to worry about the guy just sounded really serious.

  • jp4lyfejp4lyfe Member UncommonPosts: 165

    It could be from tons of different things I guess..

    I spoke to tons of people who were at gamescom and never reported any crashes and never saw any threads or posts about others crashing there. It's the exact same demo being played. level 2 toons, all classes besides jedis.

    Dunno, lot's can cause crashes.

  • donjuanamigodonjuanamigo Member Posts: 256

    Originally posted by Warband

    Originally posted by Luthor_X

    Originally posted by Warband

    http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=193105&page=47

    Seems a bit weird that a demo built specifically for showing the game off appears to be having some serious stability issues, hopefully it's all ok but it's a bit worrying and kinda weirdly makes you wonder about the competence of Bioware's coder's. The good news is according to the guy says the combat "feels" good. 

     

    It could just be a piece of faulty hardware in the testing rig.

    True but still very weird... you'd think they have all this stuff checked thoroughy multiple times since it is a public demo and shouldn't all developers being using the same hardware. I haven't heard of any problems with other games. Let's hope it's nothing.


    Originally posted by jp4lyfe

    Originally posted by Warband

    http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=193105&page=47

    Seems a bit weird that a demo built specifically for showing the game off appears to be having some serious stability issues, hopefully it's all ok but it's a bit worrying and kinda weirdly makes you wonder about the competence of Bioware's coder's. The good news is according to the guy says the combat "feels" good. 

    Actually those demos can be a pain in the butt.

    After every 15minutes or however long they allow people to play they have to reset all the zones, reset the toons back to the tests starting level etc. Then let the next wave of people come into the room and play.

     

    Rinse and repeat all day, it's not too shocking.

    Still it seems extremely rare for the game to actually crash and this seemed to have happened to a few people. Can't tell if it was one server.

    Anyway it was probably nothing to worry about the guy just sounded really serious.

     My advice to you is to stop making a mountain out of a mole hill. this isnt worthy of being posted on these forums. next.

  • WarbandWarband Member UncommonPosts: 723

    Originally posted by jp4lyfe

    It could be from tons of different things I guess..

    I spoke to tons of people who were at gamescom and never reported any crashes and never saw any threads or posts about others crashing there. It's the exact same demo being played. level 2 toons, all classes besides jedis.

    Dunno, lot's can cause crashes.

    I didn't hear any problems in gamescom either it's pretty much the same demo. Pax has faulty hardware? or the game had some issues with this specific hardware, or more than likely just it's just a one off server crash.

  • WarbandWarband Member UncommonPosts: 723

    Originally posted by donjuanamigo

    Originally posted by Warband

    Originally posted by Luthor_X

    Originally posted by Warband

    http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=193105&page=47

    Seems a bit weird that a demo built specifically for showing the game off appears to be having some serious stability issues, hopefully it's all ok but it's a bit worrying and kinda weirdly makes you wonder about the competence of Bioware's coder's. The good news is according to the guy says the combat "feels" good. 

     

    It could just be a piece of faulty hardware in the testing rig.

    True but still very weird... you'd think they have all this stuff checked thoroughy multiple times since it is a public demo and shouldn't all developers being using the same hardware. I haven't heard of any problems with other games. Let's hope it's nothing.


    Originally posted by jp4lyfe

    Originally posted by Warband

    http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=193105&page=47

    Seems a bit weird that a demo built specifically for showing the game off appears to be having some serious stability issues, hopefully it's all ok but it's a bit worrying and kinda weirdly makes you wonder about the competence of Bioware's coder's. The good news is according to the guy says the combat "feels" good. 

    Actually those demos can be a pain in the butt.

    After every 15minutes or however long they allow people to play they have to reset all the zones, reset the toons back to the tests starting level etc. Then let the next wave of people come into the room and play.

     

    Rinse and repeat all day, it's not too shocking.

    Still it seems extremely rare for the game to actually crash and this seemed to have happened to a few people. Can't tell if it was one server.

    Anyway it was probably nothing to worry about the guy just sounded really serious.

     My advice to you is to stop making a mountain out of a mole hill. this isnt worthy of being posted on these forums. next.

    It's not a common occurence and could have been serious and so I believed a discussion should be had over it. If this thread deserves to be locked it'll be locked.

    Besides I'd like to read your rule book and what to and to not post.

  • donjuanamigodonjuanamigo Member Posts: 256

    youre making a big deal about a freaking demo. a demo. not thet actual game. a demo. there is nothing "serious" to discuss about a demo.

  • WarbandWarband Member UncommonPosts: 723

    Originally posted by donjuanamigo

    youre making a big deal about a freaking demo. a demo. not thet actual game. a demo. there is nothing "serious" to discuss about a demo.

    A demo that was specifically made to show the game in a good light. It's like showing your a prototype of your product in an advert and the product screwing up. It's much worse when you attempt to show the best of the game and it screws up than since it makes you worry about what they're not showing...

    I'm not saying it's anything of that sort and it more than likely isn't. I was just asking for some reason for some possible reason why it could of happened.

    BTW the demo is what people use to decide whether they're going to buy it or not and is used heavily for marketing, it's still midly important even if Bioware has a large group of fans that will buy the game regardless.

  • udonudon Member UncommonPosts: 1,803

    Originally posted by Warband

    http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=193105&page=47

    Seems a bit weird that a demo built specifically for showing the game off appears to be having some serious stability issues, hopefully it's all ok but it's a bit worrying and kinda weirdly makes you wonder about the competence of Bioware's coder's. The good news is according to the guy says the combat "feels" good. 

     


    These traveling road show demos are really hard to pull off well.  The fact they work well most of the time says a lot for the product and the people running them.  Think about the idea of shipping a entire network system complete with switches, routers, cabling, workstations, and servers to a remote location and getting it all setup and working with less than a day advance prep in most cases while in some strange city. 


     


    This really is a non-issue.

  • SebaliSebali Member UncommonPosts: 395

    I make a movie

     

    I show you a clip of said movie

     

    projector craps out mid clip

     

    my movie has serious issues?

  • demonic87demonic87 Member UncommonPosts: 438

    Originally posted by Sebali

    I make a movie

     

    I show you a clip of said movie

     

    projector craps out mid clip

     

    my movie has serious issues?

    Who said it was a technical issue? It can very easily be a coding area.

  • WarbandWarband Member UncommonPosts: 723

    Originally posted by Sebali

    I make a movie

     

    I show you a clip of said movie

     

    projector craps out mid clip

     

    my movie has serious issues?

    What if the movie data was corrupt and thats the reason why it cut. There's a bunch of reasons it could have happened. It just seems strange and I was asking what peoples opinions on it were. I don't actually think there's an actual problem it's just not a common occurence.

  • donjuanamigodonjuanamigo Member Posts: 256

    Originally posted by Warband

    Originally posted by donjuanamigo

    youre making a big deal about a freaking demo. a demo. not thet actual game. a demo. there is nothing "serious" to discuss about a demo.

    A demo that was specifically made to show the game in a good light. It's like showing your a prototype of your product in an advert and the product screwing up. It's much worse when you attempt to show the best of the game and it screws up than since it makes you worry about what they're not showing...

    I'm not saying it's anything of that sort and it more than likely isn't. I was just asking for some reason for some possible reason why it could of happened.

    BTW the demo is what people use to decide whether they're going to buy it or not and is used heavily for marketing, it's still midly important even if Bioware has a large group of fans that will buy the game regardless.

    again, a demo. not the game, a demo. noone cares enough to try and figure out what happened. thats how insignificant this is. youre making something out of nothing. i also feel this isnt going to dissuade people from buying the game. oh their demo didnt work. not going to try that. i somehow think that thats not going to happen. good luck trying to make the game look bad with your ramblings.

  • WarbandWarband Member UncommonPosts: 723

    Originally posted by donjuanamigo

    Originally posted by Warband

    Originally posted by donjuanamigo

    youre making a big deal about a freaking demo. a demo. not thet actual game. a demo. there is nothing "serious" to discuss about a demo.

    A demo that was specifically made to show the game in a good light. It's like showing your a prototype of your product in an advert and the product screwing up. It's much worse when you attempt to show the best of the game and it screws up than since it makes you worry about what they're not showing...

    I'm not saying it's anything of that sort and it more than likely isn't. I was just asking for some reason for some possible reason why it could of happened.

    BTW the demo is what people use to decide whether they're going to buy it or not and is used heavily for marketing, it's still midly important even if Bioware has a large group of fans that will buy the game regardless.

    again, a demo. not the game, a demo. noone cares enough to try and figure out what happened. thats how insignificant this is. youre making something out of nothing. i also feel this isnt going to dissuade people from buying the game. oh their demo didnt work. not going to try that. i somehow think that thats not going to happen. good luck trying to make the game look bad with your ramblings.

    If you downloaded a game or got a CD containing a game demo from a magazine and the CD and the game constantly crahsed on your PC and you were absolutely certain it wasn't your PC's fault would you not at least second guess buying the game if not decide to not buy it all due to constant crashes. You make judgements on if your going to get a game based on a demo.

    OFC since this is before the game has finsihed developing so they get a bit of leeway but it doesn't leave a positive mark on those that play it. My point is if this was serious it would be something to worry about IF..... which is very unlikely but it shouldn't just be swept under the carpet since this is what they are chosing to show us.

  • WaldoeWaldoe Member UncommonPosts: 642

    Originally posted by Sebali

    I make a movie

     

    I show you a clip of said movie

     

    projector craps out mid clip

     

    my movie has serious issues?

    Yeah not quite, but nice try.

  • LoneStarDudeLoneStarDude Member Posts: 1

    Originally posted by Warband

    Originally posted by Luthor_X


    Originally posted by Warband

     

    It could just be a piece of faulty hardware in the testing rig.

    True but still very weird... you'd think they have all this stuff checked thoroughy multiple times since it is a public demo and shouldn't all developers being using the same hardware. I haven't heard of any problems with other games. Let's hope it's nothing.


    Originally posted by jp4lyfe


    Originally posted by Warband

     

    Seems a bit weird that a demo built specifically for showing the game off appears to be having some serious stability issues, hopefully it's all ok but it's a bit worrying and kinda weirdly makes you wonder about the competence of Bioware's coder's. 

     

    Still it seems extremely rare for the game to actually crash and this seemed to have happened to a few people. Can't tell if it was one server.

    Anyway it was probably nothing to worry about the guy just sounded really serious.

    Howdy, y'all.

     

    I edited these quotes to get to what is highly likely to be the problem. I work in A/V, and have set-up/baby-sat many on-site temporary networks for conventions and trade-shows.

     

    At best, the on-site servers are Biowares, everything from the servers on out will be rented. For a variety of reasons, companies do not ship computers, cables, routers, etc...the main one being it is not cost-effective to buy the number of computers and peripherials for what are incredibly brief periods of use. It could be something as simple as a bad ethernet cable, a faulty port on a router/destination machine, component failure(rented computers take a great deal of abuse, and are used until they fail(think smoke and  flames)), or even software conflicts from a previous rentee. While it could be a coding thing, from my expirience, it is more likely to be one of the reasons I listed.

  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,183

    Originally posted by Warband

    http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=193105&page=47

    Seems a bit weird that a demo built specifically for showing the game off appears to be having some serious stability issues, hopefully it's all ok but it's a bit worrying and kinda weirdly makes you wonder about the competence of Bioware's coder's. The good news is according to the guy says the combat "feels" good. 

    Considering they've shown off the same demo at other shows, it's not exactly something that worries me about coding.

    There are so many issues that could pop up, it's hard to even begin to point out what it may have been. It could have been something as simple as a cable or hardware.

    There's also the possibility of human error, these guys most likely are extremely tired considering what they do for a living. Anyone that has had to travel like this for work should know exactly how they feel. Try touring with a band and see how well everything goes every night of the tour:).

    For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson


  • FdzzaiglFdzzaigl Member UncommonPosts: 2,433

    If you read some of the impressions posted later in that thread (they're quoted on the first page), crashing was relatively rare although it did happen; and launching the game went smoothly.

    They're constantly resetting and restarting the game, it also isn't optimised fully yet, this really isn't an issue.

    Feel free to use my referral link for SW:TOR if you want to test out the game. You'll get some special unlocks!

  • jerlot65jerlot65 Member UncommonPosts: 788

    Originally posted by Warband

    Originally posted by donjuanamigo

    youre making a big deal about a freaking demo. a demo. not thet actual game. a demo. there is nothing "serious" to discuss about a demo.

    A demo that was specifically made to show the game in a good light. It's like showing your a prototype of your product in an advert and the product screwing up. It's much worse when you attempt to show the best of the game and it screws up than since it makes you worry about what they're not showing...

    I'm not saying it's anything of that sort and it more than likely isn't. I was just asking for some reason for some possible reason why it could of happened.

    BTW the demo is what people use to decide whether they're going to buy it or not and is used heavily for marketing, it's still midly important even if Bioware has a large group of fans that will buy the game regardless.

    how is this a "rare" occurrance?  Demostrations of video games (even on the big screen) have had technical issues all the time.  Heck I've seen multiple nationally televised demos of video games break down.  And its not just video games.  Remember Steve Jobs when he was on stage and the I-phone scrwed up?  Or the multiple times Bill Gates was on stage presenting and windows threw an error.

    Like other posters said, you are making a mountain out of mole hill.

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  • PhilbyPhilby Member Posts: 849

    A Bioware game that crashes? Unheard of. /sarcasm. Actually the state of this game at release has been a question I will have until after launch. Considering how buggy KOTOR and ME was at release im going by my rule of not buying until 6 months after launch on this one.

    WOW isnt great because it has 12 million players. WOW has 12 million players because its great.

  • sungodrasungodra Member Posts: 1,376

    Originally posted by Warband

    http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=193105&page=47

    Seems a bit weird that a demo built specifically for showing the game off appears to be having some serious stability issues, hopefully it's all ok but it's a bit worrying and kinda weirdly makes you wonder about the competence of Bioware's coder's. The good news is according to the guy says the combat "feels" good. 

     TOR was not the only game having problems with their demo.

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    "When it comes to GW2 any game is fair game"

  • miagisanmiagisan Member Posts: 5,156

    worked great all day today i heard :)

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  • ElikalElikal Member UncommonPosts: 7,912

    Ok in this case I can only say: its beta.

    People don't ask questions to get answers - they ask questions to show how smart they are. - Dogbert

  • Loke666Loke666 Member EpicPosts: 21,441

    Heh, the evil demon of demos strikes again, same dud who hit Microsoft at the world premiere of Windows 98.

    It is the thing that happens with demos, they take out parts of the game for a show so glitches like this happens. Doesn't tell us much about the endproduct but it is still kinda funny. :)

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