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Snobs and Elitists
Kidfierce
Member Posts: 36
(Mod Edited)
I just came back to the game after 4 years. No, not with my original toons, I actually threw away my boxes after I quit from the NGE. I recently (4 days ago) bought the game again and returned.
I was in Mos Eisley cantina looking for a nice guild. I announced several times in the midst of about 30 people that I was looking. Not all were afk as there were conversations going. Not one person answered me.
I mentioned I should go back to Wow and deal with the griefing kids vs no one speaking to a noob. THEN I get all kinds of comments. You people don't want to speak unless you can make rude comments? The game sucks enough, but the community USED to make the game happen. I'm going to solo along for awhile and at least get my money out of it.
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the die-hard nge players ironically enough know that new players will not stay in the game after they've found out how horrid it is - and delete the game in a couple of days.
so they dont even bother adding them to their guilds any more.
So this justifies their snobbish behavior? I think I'd be happy to see a new face in the game and help them as much as possible. Especially as low populated as SWG is.
This is the worst thing i have ever heard (regarding MMOs)! Talk about a Case 22.
I had the complete opposite experience. Friendly people. .a few invites. .I would strongly suggest going to the message boards there and looking for something that suits you. I didn't go into a canteena and ask though. . maybe that crowd is a bit rough.
Wa min God! Se æx on min heafod is!
Mos Eisley lives up to its name
All SWG scum hangs around there 
, only interested in duelling others or talking out of their ass. You will see toons with the helper tag active that ignore you, if you have any questions.
This was my first impression from Mos Eisley too, back when I started.
Most friendly players only pass through Mos Eisley and maybe get a buff in the cantina on their way. You will know that after you join an active guild. The lack of a galaxy wide chatchannel makes it quite difficult for a new player to ask questions. Like someone else suggested, post on the official forums if you are looking for a guild. You will also see recruitment threads there.
if this is true, its still sad that people have to resort to the forums to enhance their in-game experience.
forums should be an optional add-on to the experience, not a must to join a guild.
You spammed "LF Guild" in Mos Eisley cantina. Then griped about not getting invited and made some "going back to WoW" reference. What were you expecting to happen? Garbage in garbage out, imo.
I could be wrong but I don't think you are likely to find any suitable guild no matter what game by spamming looking for guild over the course of one day. Well, unless you only want to be "guilded" in with the equivalent to a random invite guild... then.. Ok..
SWG was always a game about community, you're right about that. However, how many people in the real world are going to answer someone yelling in the middle of central park "someone talk to me, and be my friend?" Most likely not many. Yet if that person started yelling curses around at all passers by, it's likely quite a few will speak up. People in general love drama.
SWG was also a game always filled to the brim with drama seeking players. Maybe that's who's left, who knows. Even considering that, you're back to WOW statement would have most likely, had the same result no matter what game you're in, even WOW by saying I'm going back to LOTRO or SWG etc....
Personally I wouldn't have answered and I was always of the social sort when I played SWG long ago. IMO LFGuild spammers are as bad as SPAM invite guilds.
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Really thats always how i end up finding guilds when not invited. Most games i play it usually just takes a few hours if that. wow( with multiple character in both factions ) ,eq , e2 some f2ps i never had problems but for the bit i tried swg i ran into the same problem and quickly left. I have heard a few others with some of the same problems, for a game where its fanbois so hard clam that it has and always had such a great comunity i dont ever hear bout it from newer players. This "comunity " always seems to want to blame nge for its downfall but maybe they should start looking a bit closer to home.
I challenged my reflection to a staring contest....4 days later i won
Not only has "most" of the playerbase left over the years, but also the "best" of it as well.
What the OP saw seems to be the all too typical behavior of the "Too much reading", post NGE playerbase SOE was going after.
SOE wanted it, now they have it.
No, it doesn't "justify" it, but Troneas is right - the turnover in the game is terribly high and new players tend to leave (quit) the day after they drop their f'ing house in the middle of town. Again, it doesn't justify it, but it is a frustrating pattern that many of the current players have been through time and time again.
Go ask a n00bish question on the official forums and see how badly you get flamed. Heck, just type what you did here, there, and wait for the trolls. The current community is certainly not what it once was and it's sad how they treat people at times. Not everyone of course, but there seems to be a large portion of the current playerbase who have a zero tolerance policy for anyone who dare ask simple questions...and you're exactly why the "attitude" is bad for the game.
don't ask for guild invatation unless you're over lvl 25 or prove you're not trial or credit farmer
don't spam mos eisley cantina with "LF guild" all over again, it's rude and nobody cares about people like that
try to contact any veteran member (lvl 90, with heroic jewelry buff, guilded) via tell and ask him about current guild situation
then contact potentional guild leaders/recruiters for further info
is it so hard? much easier then QQ on forums
QFE, good advice from a non-toxic community to a toxic one. :P
Where are these rules written? How is any new/returning player supposed to know wtf a "heroic buff" looks like?
When the hell did "LF GUILD" get considered "spam"?! What's wrong with helping NEW players?! Why +25?
Everything you say, especially your last comment, confirms his title for this thread. Nice work.
He isn't "QQ"ing here either...he came here and told a story of HIS experience. Just because you don't like his story, doesn't mean he's "QQ"ing.
Anti-social behaviour, such as any form of spamming doesn't tend to increase your chances of being guilded.
This!
So you are stating that going into a public place with a large number of ATK players and typing "LF Guild", you consider "spamming" or "anti-social" behavior?!
Honestly Badger...Tell me what this guy did wrong. Got frustrated after 4-days? I'd have done the same the the WoW nurds tbh.
He was simply trying to get guilded and find people to play with his 1st few days - I'd commend him on not sitting back waiting for someone to ASK him to join...players like him are 100x's better than the ones who NEVER take any initiative and ONLY wait to be invited to do anything.
SWG has a little more mature audience than most MMOs, behavior that is acceptable in other games may not be in SWG. It's not snobbery or elitism.
For instance, play a game like Free Realms and you wlill get spammed with unsolicitied friend requests and guild requests, when you play a game like SWG this doesn't tend to happen.
It's a bit like walking into a bar and wondering why nobody wants to play tag, that would be fine in a jungle gym but the two audiences are very different.
What the **edit** are you talking about?!? That's not just random Badger, but that's not even a semi decent analogy.
I disagree with your very 1st line too. It may have once been more "mature", but I assure you that the people hanging out in the Mos Eisely cantina and on the forums don't reflect that assumption.
edit: PS...why can't you just answer my question Badger?
While I think the original poster is premature in judging 30 people for not having an answer to their question, I think you are grossly twisting the definition of anti-social behaviour to make your point.
Going to a player hotspot and asking for advice from other players is not anti social behaviour. It is pretty much the text book definition of being social. Take that one step further, the original poster was looking for a guild for petes sake! How much more infromation do you need to understand that person was trying to get invovled with the game community.
I don't think it would have killed one person in your "non-toxic" community to suggest the player go to the official forums, don't you agree? Instead they just stood there and ignored him. That is a statement of fact, not my judgement of the game community.
Personally I find games that are reduced down to their most loyal and die hard supporters to be cliquish and hive minded towards those who are new and especially those that do not want to conform to the group think. Games with large populations allow players to run their mouthes and "hide amongst the crowd". Those two situations make up the end points on a scale and every game fall somewhere along that scale.