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I am not a believer of conspiracy...

SwaneaSwanea Member UncommonPosts: 2,401

But I do have to wonder.  Maybe I was wrong.  I've been wrong once or twice in my life.  It's hard for a woman to ever be wrong.  But I might just have been about this.

 

http://daeity.wordpress.com/2010/07/08/what_blizzard_doesnt_want_you_to_know/

 

This also...

http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/ckmdv/blizzard_is_having_major_problems_right_now/

It certainly does make sense.  I heard a few friends who quit playing wow, who are also IT people had their accounts reactivated/Authenticated.  They aren't dumb people.  They know how easily people can get your information if you don't watch what you do.

One of them had their post deleted on the forums because they claimed it was not their fault, and must be blizzards.

 

Anyways, just something to think about.

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  • hobo9766hobo9766 Member UncommonPosts: 457

    I get dozens of scam emails per day after i merged my accounts into battle.net and its an email I only use for game accounts. I even changed it to a fresh new email account and the scam mails continue... There is definetly something else going on and the whole RealID is only a small part of it.

  • TechnoMonkeyTechnoMonkey Member UncommonPosts: 93

    I quitted WoW about a year ago without any intention to ever go back, about 3 months ago I started getting tons of phishing emails from IPs in China. I get about 4-5 a day now it's pissing me off. A couple of days ago I realized that my account was hacked, even though I never cared about even reading any emails that had anything to do with blizzard for the past year, I just deleted them as they appeard. I really don't care about my account since I don't intend to ever play again, but the spam is out of control. Ever since the Battle.net merge thing I noticed that somehow my email adress became completely exposed. I hate Blizzard.

  • dragonbranddragonbrand Member UncommonPosts: 441

    Same for me. I canceled my accounts at eh request to merge into Battle.net, and within three months my accoutns were hacked (at least according to Blizzard) and I need to by an authenticator and and re-sub to fix this issue. It seems like a scam to get more ooney to me and this problem seems unusually prevalent.

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  • generals3generals3 Member Posts: 3,307

    I actually wouldnt be surprised if blizzard has deals with gold sellers. I've told my tin foil hat story about it. On my server all gold selling service went and go , apart from one that is , who persistently remained , why would action being taken against all the services but one? Sure it might be coincidence and we don't know what happens with those services , but it does beg the question.

     

    And let's not forget i have a suspicious high amount of Beta invites for cataclysm nowadays lol . And one of my friends has the same with the spam , and it has grown since battle.net merge indeed . And we both don't play the game anymore btw.

     

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  • AzureProwerAzurePrower Member UncommonPosts: 1,550

    It makes me very suspicious too.

    I'm a victim of a hacking. Last year my 2 year inactive EU account was "hacked" into, had its subscription paid before signing it up to some one elses battle.net account and authenticator.

    I've been playing MMOs for 10 years with out a single account hacked. I'm aware of many scams and dangers of the Internet over the past decade. I build my own computers. So I guess you can also consider me an IT specialist. Yet no matter how cautious you are, there's always that risk that you can slip up right?

    But there was some thing bugging me. Know what it was? I played that same EU account on the same computer I play my current, active US account (started a year later after quitting EU WoW).


    Guess what... my US account is fine.


    Figure that one out for me please.

  • MMOExposedMMOExposed Member RarePosts: 7,387

    Originally posted by hobo9766

    I get dozens of scam emails per day after i merged my accounts into battle.net and its an email I only use for game accounts. I even changed it to a fresh new email account and the scam mails continue... There is definetly something else going on and the whole RealID is only a small part of it.

    Before I got hacked, I never recieved any emails from Blizzard, or WoW related. So how did I get hacked without the fake emails?

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  • PhilbyPhilby Member Posts: 849

    My story is about the same. Hadnt played in a bit over a year and a friend emailed me and said they saw ingame. So I notified Blizz and just mark everything from Blizzard, real or fake as phishing but still get a few now and then.  The WOW faitful will blame everyone except Blizz but it surely appears that Battlenet was the trigger.  And for the record, ive played several MMO's and have never had an account hacked before or since.

    WOW isnt great because it has 12 million players. WOW has 12 million players because its great.

  • expressoexpresso Member UncommonPosts: 2,218

    I am selling tin-foil hats for only $1.50 .. get em while you can, they are going fast.  Next week I'll have a new line of Rocks in - perfect for living under. 

    SALE NOW ON!

  • TorikTorik Member UncommonPosts: 2,342

    Originally posted by MMOExposed

    Originally posted by hobo9766

    I get dozens of scam emails per day after i merged my accounts into battle.net and its an email I only use for game accounts. I even changed it to a fresh new email account and the scam mails continue... There is definetly something else going on and the whole RealID is only a small part of it.

    Before I got hacked, I never recieved any emails from Blizzard, or WoW related. So how did I get hacked without the fake emails?

    Personally, I never got hacked but I have been receiving fake WoW emails for years now. 

    On the other hand I would not be suprised if a list of emails was stolen by a Blizzard employee and sold to various hacking sites.

  • CeridithCeridith Member UncommonPosts: 2,980

    It's obvious there is a security hole, or leak that occurred, in part due to the changeover to Battle.net. The sheer increase in reported hackings, phising emails, and other such suspicious behavior has skyrocketed since the merge. It doesn't take an IT expert to realize that Blizzard blundered something to cause, or in the least allow this, to happen.

    The even more ridiculous thing, is that for people who've stopped actively subbing, who find their accounts are hacked, tend to find themselves in the position of having to pay for the reversed charges placed on the account from hackers using stolen CC info if they ever want to play their account again.

  • PalebanePalebane Member RarePosts: 4,011

    These days I wouldn't put it past large corporations to employ some unscrupulous business practices in order to keep the green coming in.

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  • PhilbyPhilby Member Posts: 849

    I cant see what Blizz could gain by a purposefull "leak". However, there was either a security breech during the battlenet thing  or a whole lot of people got stupid all at the same time. I leave it up to people to decide for themselves which is most likely.

    WOW isnt great because it has 12 million players. WOW has 12 million players because its great.

  • generals3generals3 Member Posts: 3,307

    After reading something today i think any tin foil hat theory about anything to gain money about blizzard-activision is more than plausible: http://kotaku.com/5583710/lawsuit-activision-created-modern-warfare-police-state?skyline=true&s=i. While this article isn't WoW related it shows what kind of company Activision is and tbh , the activision-blizzard alliance will most likely ruin blizzards image .

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  • TealaTeala Member RarePosts: 7,627

    Some one explain to me how a 2+ month inactive account(that means nobody signing in for a keylogger to record your info) gets hacked?  Seriously.    I had my account hacked.  I neverr click on any email's that are supposedly sent from game companies.   I never used add-ons.   After my account was hacked I found no trojans...nothing, my computer was clean.    So tell me, how did my inactive account get hacked?

    By the way in all the years I have played MMORPG's this is the first time one of my accounts has ever been hacked and it was an inactive one!

  • WhiteLanternWhiteLantern Member RarePosts: 3,309

    Interestingly enough, I've been receiving several e-mails a week to tell me that my account has been "compromised". I stopped playing last December. What is even more interesting is that these emails are going to an adress that I don't even have tied to Battle-Net. I just delete them and go on. If I ever make it back to Azeroth, I'll worry about it then.

    I want a mmorpg where people have gone through misery, have gone through school stuff and actually have had sex even. -sagil

  • GrayGhost79GrayGhost79 Member UncommonPosts: 4,775

    .......... I got a good one for you. I gave WoW a go a few years back. I bought the game from gamestop on the cheap and didn't even play past the first week of my 30 days and canceled it. 

    I've been getting emails from Blizzard and from scam sites. Blizzard is telling me my account info has been changed and yada yada, and scam sites have been sending emails telling me they are blizzard and that I need to verify yada, yada, yada. 

     

    My issue is...... if they had my account info, why wait 2-3 years to use it? Why exactly did they suddenly assume I had a WoW account this year and begin flooding me with WoW phising emails?

     

    A logical connection some where would be nice, as it stands now......it has me a bit befuzzled. 

  • generals3generals3 Member Posts: 3,307

    Well i apparently had a pretty old trial account on my other e-mail adress and decided to check that ones junk mail: what did i notice , filled with WoW scam mails, like 5 per day... I mean , wut?

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  • drivecdrivec Member UncommonPosts: 104

    hacked 9months after not playing.

    i wouldnt be so upset if blizzard didnt want us to pay for extra protection

     

    just this week i have had a very high increase in phishing emails.

  • expressoexpresso Member UncommonPosts: 2,218

    Originally posted by Teala

    Some one explain to me how a 2+ month inactive account(that means nobody signing in for a keylogger to record your info) gets hacked?  Seriously.    I had my account hacked.  I neverr click on any email's that are supposedly sent from game companies.   I never used add-ons.   After my account was hacked I found no trojans...nothing, my computer was clean.    So tell me, how did my inactive account get hacked?

    By the way in all the years I have played MMORPG's this is the first time one of my accounts has ever been hacked and it was an inactive one!

     Easy, you were hacked 3 months ago and the hacker just got around to using your data or was waiting for the account to go inactive... simple isn't.

  • GrayGhost79GrayGhost79 Member UncommonPosts: 4,775

    Originally posted by expresso

    Originally posted by Teala

    Some one explain to me how a 2+ month inactive account(that means nobody signing in for a keylogger to record your info) gets hacked?  Seriously.    I had my account hacked.  I neverr click on any email's that are supposedly sent from game companies.   I never used add-ons.   After my account was hacked I found no trojans...nothing, my computer was clean.    So tell me, how did my inactive account get hacked?

    By the way in all the years I have played MMORPG's this is the first time one of my accounts has ever been hacked and it was an inactive one!

     Easy, you were hacked 3 months ago and the hacker just got around to using your data or was waiting for the account to go inactive... simple isn't.

    Okay......... in my case then? Where my account was inactive for 3 years?

  • expressoexpresso Member UncommonPosts: 2,218

    Originally posted by GrayGhost79

    .......... I got a good one for you. I gave WoW a go a few years back. I bought the game from gamestop on the cheap and didn't even play past the first week of my 30 days and canceled it. 

    I've been getting emails from Blizzard and from scam sites. Blizzard is telling me my account info has been changed and yada yada, and scam sites have been sending emails telling me they are blizzard and that I need to verify yada, yada, yada. 

     

    My issue is...... if they had my account info, why wait 2-3 years to use it? Why exactly did they suddenly assume I had a WoW account this year and begin flooding me with WoW phising emails?

     

    A logical connection some where would be nice, as it stands now......it has me a bit befuzzled. 

     All the emails you are getting are scam emails, the obvious ones and the ones that look legit.

    People need to understand that WoW is the prime target, no one is interested in hacking EQ2 or Aion accounts,the money is in WoW accounts thats why we all get a dozen spam emails a week, thats why there are more occurances of WoW accounts be hacked and thats why people account details dont get used for a few months cus the scammers have other accounts they are using in the meanwhile.

    Here's my googlemail for the last week - some look legit. - gmail does a fantasic job at marking them as spam.

  • FenixhawkFenixhawk Member Posts: 1

    There's a bunch more supporting documentation on the blog post, with more in the works too looks like...

    Here's where he moved the blog:  http://daeity.posterous.com

    Apparently, the poster hadn't realized at first that annoying popups/ads were autogenerated by Wordpress.  It's all fixed now, and looks much better.  :)

    A very interesting read, especially the parts proving the existence of the job titles at Blizzard and the "data breach notification" common excuse used by forum trolls.

  • TorikTorik Member UncommonPosts: 2,342

    Originally posted by GrayGhost79

    .......... I got a good one for you. I gave WoW a go a few years back. I bought the game from gamestop on the cheap and didn't even play past the first week of my 30 days and canceled it. 

    I've been getting emails from Blizzard and from scam sites. Blizzard is telling me my account info has been changed and yada yada, and scam sites have been sending emails telling me they are blizzard and that I need to verify yada, yada, yada. 

     

    My issue is...... if they had my account info, why wait 2-3 years to use it? Why exactly did they suddenly assume I had a WoW account this year and begin flooding me with WoW phising emails?

     

    A logical connection some where would be nice, as it stands now......it has me a bit befuzzled. 

    Probable explanation:  you used your email for a video game related activity and it got onto a list that was then sold to multiple hacking groups.  They really do not care that most of the emails will go to people who do not have a WoW account since sending the spam is dirt cheap and one successful hack will make up for thousand emails that go into the junk folder.

    It's the same reason why I get spam email for stuff that would never apply to me (eg US based offers for stuff that does not apply to me as a Canadian citizen).

  • sschruppsschrupp Member UncommonPosts: 684

    I'm about ready to sue Blizzard for repetitive stress injury from all the right clicking e-mails to get their source, copying information, pasting and forwarding it all to [email protected].

    I get probably 10 to 20 of the dang things a day.

    I've never been hacked, but my account was inactive for years. So it was just a little surprising when I suddenly go from 0 scam e-mails to 10-20 a day. My other e-mail addresses don't get them, only the e-mail I used long ago for WoW. Too much of a coincidence to not assume there was a leak at Blizzard some time ago.

    I can only hope that people that are getting these scams aren't just simply deleting them but are sending the source information and forwarding it all to [email protected]. At some point I would think that Blizzard can shut these scammers down.

  • Tutu2Tutu2 Member UncommonPosts: 572

    Originally posted by dragonbrand

    Same for me. I canceled my accounts at eh request to merge into Battle.net, and within three months my accoutns were hacked (at least according to Blizzard) and I need to by an authenticator and and re-sub to fix this issue. It seems like a scam to get more ooney to me and this problem seems unusually prevalent.

    As a person skeptical of these conspiracies, I could not help but think the same thing. After the battle.net merge, I began to hear about alot of people's accounts getting hacked, friends, friends of friends and even my boyfriend's got hacked. I thought it might be a one-off thing, but then there was alot of stuff about it in the forums as well...then Blizzard are quick to push people to buy their authenticator... Something seems off. But the bigger the company, the dirtier they get. So I wouldn't be surprised at all. 

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