why? u will be able to play with your "pc-account-chars" in your ps3 once released, u will be able to login with pc account in ps3 system
and ps3 has a lot of games besides FFXIV for not putting it into sale
Wait Wait Wait Wait Wait Wait Wait
So you are saying:
- I buy the PC version
- I play this PC version on my PS3 this year?
Or:
- I Buy the PC version
- Play this year
- Buy PS3 version next year
- Play on PS3 the PC characters I made last year ?
That would be weird.... you know, almost scam like.
Edit: well at least it is an option I guess, thanks for the info. Weird stufff man
lol how's that scam like and weird?
Yeah and please do list another MMO besides FFXI that is playable on both PC & Consoles, with region free world wide servers! None that I can think of...
If you want to play on your PS3 AND want to have a fair start with EVERYONE on the SHARED severs; you NEED to buy the pc version as well.
Thank you
Well it was worse for FFXI. Usa players started 1 year after japanese players and europeans started 2 years after. Well you have to expect these things from a cross platform mmo.
If you want to play on your PS3 AND want to have a fair start with EVERYONE on the SHARED severs; you NEED to buy the pc version as well.
Thank you
Well it was worse for FFXI. Usa players started 1 year after japanese players and europeans started 2 years after. Well you have to expect these things from a cross platform mmo.
No you do not have to expect these things. It is nonsense. This doesn't make it right it makes it worse.
I knew this already otherwise it would make all this look even more weird to me I mean it not being their first try and all. No offence
If you want to play on your PS3 AND want to have a fair start with EVERYONE on the SHARED severs; you NEED to buy the pc version as well.
Thank you
Well it was worse for FFXI. Usa players started 1 year after japanese players and europeans started 2 years after. Well you have to expect these things from a cross platform mmo.
No you do not have to expect these things. It is nonsense. This doesn't make it right it makes it worse.
I knew this already otherwise it would make it even more weird for me No offence
I did expected something like this. Se actually is doing a good job. It's not easy making a cross platformed mmo. If it was we would see more mmos like that. Unless they don't release the pc version until the ps3 is ready but that would be a bad decision. There are some other AAA tittles that will come soon and SE is trying to get the players first. They can afford to delay a bit the ps3 since there is no competition in that platform.
only fools would think charging 3 bucks for each additional character is a good idea.
Or, you know... people who understand that you don't need multiple characters in FFXIV to play every class, or even work on every craft. This isn't like other MMOs where you have to roll a new character to try different classes. In FFXIV, like in FFXI, you only need 1 character to experience all the content.
Also, as has been mentioned, if you've bothered to read any of it, each account comes with a free "retainer" slot, to be used for storage and sales, and the price of a sub is $12.99. So if you purchase an additional slot on top of that, you're still paying about the typical sub fee.
You keep supporting the little schemes these companies have to nickel and dime the people they depend on. Like I said though, only FOOLS would think its a good idea.
also...no jumping? i understand there is no content that requires jumping, but is there a reason other than that? high gravity?
Yes, let's bring that up yet again, because it just hasn't been debated to death in the dozen or two other threads started to complain about it. No, there will very likely be no jumping in FFXIV. Shock and horror, I know.
Its not a debate, its plain laziness on the part of the dev's. Defend it if you must, but I expect a little more for my money. Then again I have to work for it, so maybe we see things a little differently
IMHO if you spend money on this game, you are contributing to the de evolution of the genre, and the greed of the asians.
Holy crap... how bigotted can you be? The "greed of the asians"? Seriously. If your post is any indication, you won't be playing FFXIV, and the game will be that much better for it.
Ohh I definetley wont be playing it, it regardless it will still suck, unless your a hormonal fan girl such as yourself. Joking aside, one only needs to look at F2P games to see that they truly are not F2P, infact most asian games wind up costing more than the average subscription model .
I really could care less about this game, it just entertains me to see the way people like you react to others opinions of a stupid game.
I myself think the industry should be trying to take the genre to the next level in order to get my hard earned money, people like you are still smoking schwag from the 60's and are perfectly content with it, in fact so much so that you stand in disbelief of anyone who has the audacity to question why.
LOL schemes.....hard earned money?! It is a $50 dollar video game with a $13 monthly fee. If that is too taxing of an expense for you then video games are not for you. I love people that say good business tactics are greedy and foolish. It just makes them look like the idiot.
The real idiots are the ones who dont know the value of a dollar, and think its nothing to throw it away.
Namecalling aside, obviously you laugh at my use of hard earned money because you have no idea what that is...let me enlighten you.
Last year I worked 3800+ hours to net 148,000 dollars. In that time I witnessed two people chopped in half, I spent the majority of my day working to the point where my dogs forgot who I was, and I was too tired alot of the times for intimacy with my wife. THATS HARD EARNED MONEY.
Good buisness tactics are not trying to manipulate your customers. Customers, and you are a great example, kiss the ground these companies walk on. For them to try and change the buisness plan to attempt to squeeze one more dollar out of you, is proof these people have no respect for you or your money.
It is one thing to just enjoy a game. It is another thing entirely to support a foreign company that has no respect for the hard earned money of Americans. Laugh how you will, but I think that just proves your lack of intelligence on an economic level, regardless of your credentials.
Anyone who acts as if 50 dollars is not alot of money, then defends buisness tactics, is onviously out of touch with reality and has played into their hands hook, line, and sinker. So say what you will about me... I will be spending my money where the product is actually helping to elevate the genre, I will support companies that think outside the box and have more of a passion for the overall game than the dollar.
You comment is proof just how out of touch so many people are about the influence of their purchasing power. I am in no way telling you not to buy tis game. I am expressing why I choose not too. For you to attempt to discredit my opinion as being idiotic shows two things...either your a troll, paid to hype this game and defend their buisness strategy to try to smooth over their move from the average buisness model of a subscription based game, or your a fanboy who is disillusioned by visions of feminine adolescent boys carrying gunblades.
In closing I truly hope you find solace in playing your Final Fantasy, because if this game does what the last release from this IP did, I am pretty sure it will be exactly that...their FINAL Fantasy.
To the caterpillar it is the end of the world, to the master, it is a butterfly.
These retainer characters that can sell for you when you're offline... Are they going to be like those private shops in most Asian F2P games?
If it stays in the spirit of FFXI, then most likely it will simply be a character that can access the Auction House, and has an inventory, and you would leave the character logged in with your Bazaar open while you were afk.
My guess is they are trying to draw a distinct line between the two.
Also to everyone who's complaining the $3 for a Character and $1 for a Retainer is rediculous. FFXI has that philosophy already. It works, no one needs a new character and if you need one bad enough you add an extra $1 to your monthly subscription and you're good to go.
However, times have changed, its newer hardware and bigger budget. Things are more expensive. Most likey they are keeping the same model that is already successful in FFXI giving it a more current price for todays market, but recognizing people are still going to make characters and use them solely for storage and sales. So, they offer a retainer specifically for that to accomodate that.
This isn't some new strategy used to gouge you. It's an existing and successful strategy that they've updated to accomodate both those who wants playable characters and those who want retainers. Hell they could have said $3 for everyone but obviously they kept their current playerbase in mind.
Also, in FFXI you only get 1 character that can do everything because they try and foster a sense of pride and self in your character, they want you to identify with it and bond. So encouraging people to create and cultivate a single character, creates a mure more fruitful social environment. They've said that FFXIV is going to be much more heavily based on constructing an individual story for your character. So I imagine they are going to attempt to take the 'bond' you have with your avatar to the next level here.
It also effectively multiplies the number of unique hours of gameply by allowing you explore different avenues with the same character instead of forcing you to continueally create a new one.
People who have lvl 80 Mage, 80 Paladin, 80 Priest, 60 Shaman, 60 Warlock... they have no sense of connection with any particular avatar. The jobs are simply tools to help them accomplish their goal.
But when you have a single character thats a 75BLM/75WHM/75RDM/75SMN/75WAR/75PLD the bond you share with that individual avatar, the pride you have in all you've accomplished is so much more!
It's not a popular philosophy and sales strategy, but it's a philosophy that already exists and works for what they want.
Judging from the comments about SE's chosen sub model, I'm guessing many who have posted have never really subbed to SE's first MMO. I guess ignorance really is bliss.
Paying a sub to a game that only allows one character for that price is absurd in my book. Yeah you can add more for $3 each, but that seems to me like taking advantage of your playerbase. One reason I never played the first game even though I had good friends that did. It makes this game a niche game because people like to play alts. So if they want to make a second rate game that is their choice, but it will never be that popular with this restriction.
u dont need alts here, since your character is able to be all classes in game just switching the weapon .. thus no need to alter here, and they give you for free a "storage char"
It's going to be a bit of a paradigm shift for WoW guys playing a SE MMORPG, all those strange concepts such as large numbers of alts because the game doesn't give you the freedom to play your character any way you want. I think though it may be difficult for them at first they may progress beyond the WoW-mindset eventually.
It's going to be a bit of a paradigm shift for WoW guys playing a SE MMORPG, all those strange concepts such as large numbers of alts because the game doesn't give you the freedom to play your character any way you want. I think though it may be difficult for them at first they may progress beyond the WoW-mindset eventually.
Makes me sad simply thinking about it. Such a simple yet amazing concept, yet everyone copies WoW because if WoW did it, it must be GOOD, and if some game that didn't do so well did it, it's BAD.
It's simply unbelievable.
Using LOL is like saying "my argument sucks but I still want to disagree".
It's funny how easily threads on these forums change so quickly, IE this went from "PC Version Coming September 22nd" to Fanboy vs hater troll wars... And we all got involved in the latter
It's funny how easily threads on these forums change so quickly, IE this went from "PC Version Coming September 22nd" to Fanboy vs hater troll wars... And we all got involved in the latter
Big games come with big emotions, it's all part of the game
Will play this until the game that every one will play comes out---SW: TOR.
ToR ...the game that gets more and more disappointing for some as we go along.
Don't get me wrong I am a huge Bioware and Star Wars fan and will try the game no doubt.
Just click on ToR and check out the all the hater and negative threads. A lot of haters and complainers come out to play when a big game is in the works. Same thing happens to Final Fantasy.
If you order from Amazon, make sure to select "Release Date Delivery". It was free for me, but I'm an Amazon Prime member, so not sure what they charge for that option otherwise. Amazon is offering $10 off a future game purchase with the Standard Edition, but not the CE. So, for those not needing to play on the 22nd, the price differential becomes $35, including the $10 promo.
As to paying for extra character slots, as an alt-a-holic, I have to say I HATE that playable slots are an extra $3/month! I didn't mind the $1/month with FFXI, $3 is just excessive. Every MMO I've played for more than 4 months earned the additional time by offering an enjoyable alt experience. Even if only 30% of the potential playerbase are fellow alt-a-holics, it seems SE is really shooting themselves in the foot on this one. Data storage is so insanely cheap today, it just doesn't make any sense from a business perspective.
I think that I would prefer $1/month for an additional slot, plus a one time $5 fee to upgrade a slot from retainer to playable. That would seem a lot more reasonable to me, while still supporting any other motives SE may have for trying to limit character slots.
Costs $12 for the "release day delivery"
And the $3 charge for additional characters is brilliant, cause this solidifies the need for one to play nice and keep a good reputation with your name, exactly as in FFXI where your reputation is everything!
This way, should someone decide to be an ass, ninja an item, or is just an outright horrible person, they can't freely just make a new character and try again. It'll cost them not only $3 or having to delete their current character, but they'll also loose all their hard-earned progress, and by FFXI standards, since you can be any job and do it all thats a ton of progress to lose. {Course there could be a possible name-change service in the future, making this not as harsh a penalty, but still; it'll prolly cost $10 to reset your reputation!}
I don't know where you live Khrymson, but I live in Pa, USA, and as a normal Amazon customer it cost me $5.98 for Release Date Delivery. The same as it did 11 months ago for Aion CD edition back on Sept 22nd.
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yeah
you play pc this year, wait for ps3 release playing pc release ,
2011 march ->buy ps3 game, use ps3 game with your pc account and so with your developed chars ...
lol how's that scam like and weird?
Thanks buddy, gonna give that some thought then. Still weird though.
Simple;
If you want to play on your PS3 AND want to have a fair start with EVERYONE on the SHARED servers; you NEED to buy the pc version as well.
Thank you
that's right
briefing
u can login with the pc account on ps3 version once released, i do not find anything weird in this ... besides buying the game twice of course
Yeah and please do list another MMO besides FFXI that is playable on both PC & Consoles, with region free world wide servers! None that I can think of...
Well it was worse for FFXI. Usa players started 1 year after japanese players and europeans started 2 years after. Well you have to expect these things from a cross platform mmo.
right !! is not even weird, is pretty nice IMO
Nope;
Nice would be a SHARED launch for SHARED servers. Not 6 months in between (or more, who knows)
But I can understand you all; who owns a PS3 these days? Some rich hippies got them at launch, who cares right
No you do not have to expect these things. It is nonsense. This doesn't make it right it makes it worse.
I knew this already otherwise it would make all this look even more weird to me
I mean it not being their first try and all. No offence 
I did expected something like this. Se actually is doing a good job. It's not easy making a cross platformed mmo. If it was we would see more mmos like that. Unless they don't release the pc version until the ps3 is ready but that would be a bad decision. There are some other AAA tittles that will come soon and SE is trying to get the players first. They can afford to delay a bit the ps3 since there is no competition in that platform.
well, yess, i agree that would be nicer
i own a ps3, and i was going to play on it and i will, but first on pc
damn!! that makes me a rich hippie then? xD
The real idiots are the ones who dont know the value of a dollar, and think its nothing to throw it away.
Namecalling aside, obviously you laugh at my use of hard earned money because you have no idea what that is...let me enlighten you.
Last year I worked 3800+ hours to net 148,000 dollars. In that time I witnessed two people chopped in half, I spent the majority of my day working to the point where my dogs forgot who I was, and I was too tired alot of the times for intimacy with my wife. THATS HARD EARNED MONEY.
Good buisness tactics are not trying to manipulate your customers. Customers, and you are a great example, kiss the ground these companies walk on. For them to try and change the buisness plan to attempt to squeeze one more dollar out of you, is proof these people have no respect for you or your money.
It is one thing to just enjoy a game. It is another thing entirely to support a foreign company that has no respect for the hard earned money of Americans. Laugh how you will, but I think that just proves your lack of intelligence on an economic level, regardless of your credentials.
Anyone who acts as if 50 dollars is not alot of money, then defends buisness tactics, is onviously out of touch with reality and has played into their hands hook, line, and sinker. So say what you will about me... I will be spending my money where the product is actually helping to elevate the genre, I will support companies that think outside the box and have more of a passion for the overall game than the dollar.
You comment is proof just how out of touch so many people are about the influence of their purchasing power. I am in no way telling you not to buy tis game. I am expressing why I choose not too. For you to attempt to discredit my opinion as being idiotic shows two things...either your a troll, paid to hype this game and defend their buisness strategy to try to smooth over their move from the average buisness model of a subscription based game, or your a fanboy who is disillusioned by visions of feminine adolescent boys carrying gunblades.
In closing I truly hope you find solace in playing your Final Fantasy, because if this game does what the last release from this IP did, I am pretty sure it will be exactly that...their FINAL Fantasy.
To the caterpillar it is the end of the world, to the master, it is a butterfly.
These retainer characters that can sell for you when you're offline... Are they going to be like those private shops in most Asian F2P games?
If it stays in the spirit of FFXI, then most likely it will simply be a character that can access the Auction House, and has an inventory, and you would leave the character logged in with your Bazaar open while you were afk.
My guess is they are trying to draw a distinct line between the two.
Also to everyone who's complaining the $3 for a Character and $1 for a Retainer is rediculous. FFXI has that philosophy already. It works, no one needs a new character and if you need one bad enough you add an extra $1 to your monthly subscription and you're good to go.
However, times have changed, its newer hardware and bigger budget. Things are more expensive. Most likey they are keeping the same model that is already successful in FFXI giving it a more current price for todays market, but recognizing people are still going to make characters and use them solely for storage and sales. So, they offer a retainer specifically for that to accomodate that.
This isn't some new strategy used to gouge you. It's an existing and successful strategy that they've updated to accomodate both those who wants playable characters and those who want retainers. Hell they could have said $3 for everyone but obviously they kept their current playerbase in mind.
Also, in FFXI you only get 1 character that can do everything because they try and foster a sense of pride and self in your character, they want you to identify with it and bond. So encouraging people to create and cultivate a single character, creates a mure more fruitful social environment. They've said that FFXIV is going to be much more heavily based on constructing an individual story for your character. So I imagine they are going to attempt to take the 'bond' you have with your avatar to the next level here.
It also effectively multiplies the number of unique hours of gameply by allowing you explore different avenues with the same character instead of forcing you to continueally create a new one.
People who have lvl 80 Mage, 80 Paladin, 80 Priest, 60 Shaman, 60 Warlock... they have no sense of connection with any particular avatar. The jobs are simply tools to help them accomplish their goal.
But when you have a single character thats a 75BLM/75WHM/75RDM/75SMN/75WAR/75PLD the bond you share with that individual avatar, the pride you have in all you've accomplished is so much more!
It's not a popular philosophy and sales strategy, but it's a philosophy that already exists and works for what they want.
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Live a life less ordinary.
Will play this until the game that every one will play comes out---SW: TOR.
Judging from the comments about SE's chosen sub model, I'm guessing many who have posted have never really subbed to SE's first MMO. I guess ignorance really is bliss.
u dont need alts here, since your character is able to be all classes in game just switching the weapon .. thus no need to alter here, and they give you for free a "storage char"
It's going to be a bit of a paradigm shift for WoW guys playing a SE MMORPG, all those strange concepts such as large numbers of alts because the game doesn't give you the freedom to play your character any way you want. I think though it may be difficult for them at first they may progress beyond the WoW-mindset eventually.Makes me sad simply thinking about it. Such a simple yet amazing concept, yet everyone copies WoW because if WoW did it, it must be GOOD, and if some game that didn't do so well did it, it's BAD.
It's simply unbelievable.
It's funny how easily threads on these forums change so quickly, IE this went from "PC Version Coming September 22nd" to Fanboy vs hater troll wars... And we all got involved in the latter
ToR ...the game that gets more and more disappointing for some as we go along.
Don't get me wrong I am a huge Bioware and Star Wars fan and will try the game no doubt.
Just click on ToR and check out the all the hater and negative threads. A lot of haters and complainers come out to play when a big game is in the works. Same thing happens to Final Fantasy.
I don't know where you live Khrymson, but I live in Pa, USA, and as a normal Amazon customer it cost me $5.98 for Release Date Delivery. The same as it did 11 months ago for Aion CD edition back on Sept 22nd.