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I'm wondering if any of you know of a good sim game on the market worth trying where you can build/manage a city that doesn't involve "winning" a map through war, trade or other. I tried CiV4, Settlers, Black & White- While they all have elements that are fun and what I'm looking for, they all are focused on war or beating an opponant in some sort of race. I just want a game i can focus on the building and managing part. I don't mind it has war elements but shouldn't be a driving force of the game.
I've looked into Sim City 4 but wonder if there are others worth checking out