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What is going to happen to Lotro when...

...when Frodo gets to mordor and destroys the ring? This has always been my concern with the game and lately, more than ever, it feels like the game has always had an expiration date.

So, what do you think will happen to the game when the Return of the King finally concludes?

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  • drbaltazardrbaltazar Member UncommonPosts: 7,856

    mm first gandalf as to reach elm deep for an epic battle there open world pvp 1000 player vs 1000 player

  • fenring101fenring101 Member UncommonPosts: 80

    Thats such a long way off, that it isnt really worth thinking about, to be honest i'd be more suprised if the game was still running when it got to that stage.

     

    as I think it'd most likely be four or more expansions before they even tough the end of the third book, so thats what? 7-8 years?

  • tirallumtirallum Member UncommonPosts: 205

    Well, you have to go back to protect the Shire from Saruman, don't you?

  • s1th80s1th80 Member Posts: 10
    Turbine will make sure that Frodo has a long long long way to go before he is allowed to destroy the ring 8)
  • LoktofeitLoktofeit Member RarePosts: 14,247

    That's quite a while off, but their license includes rights to the Similawhatevergeekworditis so the story they have access to extends well beyond the ring.

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  • joker007mojoker007mo Member Posts: 712

    oddly enough even though the lotr story ends at return of the king the story of middle earth still remains in fact tolkein made it clear there was much more to middle earth then just those places gandalf took merry to a new place at the end of the story

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  • black_isleblack_isle Member UncommonPosts: 258
    Originally posted by Loktofeit


    That's quite a while off, but their license includes rights to the Similawhatevergeekworditis so the story they have access to extends well beyond the ring.

     

    But events in Silmarillion doesn't even take place in the same age with the Rings, although i didn't know they had the rights for it too, interesting. Anyway, Op's concern is a bit unnecesarry imo :)

  • ComnitusComnitus Member Posts: 2,462

    Aragorn is crowned king and we enter the Fourth Age. The kingdoms of Gondor and Arnor are reunited, the house of Telcontar reigns, and we fight Harad to the south and Rhûn to the east. At least, that's what would make most sense.

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  • dhayes68dhayes68 Member UncommonPosts: 1,388

    The game is completely wedded to the storyline. There'd be no way to take the game off the rails without invalidating much of whats in the game now.  I think they'll keep pushing out xpacs til the storyline is done then people will just keep playing the storyline over and over like they do now.  Though its conceivable that they won't even reach that far since we're talking about many years of xpacs til they got to the end.

  • rozenblade1rozenblade1 Member CommonPosts: 501

    The Silmarillion is basically a collection of tales that include the creation of Middle Earth and others...

    After the ring is destroyed, the Hobbits had to fight off Briggands and others continued to fight the rest of Saurons minions around Middle Earth, because they did not just simply disappear.  They Fourth Age, after King Ellesar was crowned, brought even more adventure for the king and the Free Peoples as they cleaned up the mess Sauron had made yadayadayada....so  there would be plenty of lore to work with even after the books...

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  • ZilverrugZilverrug Member Posts: 132

    If I understood correctly, they intended to do something in Northern Mirkwood, sidelining the Ring story again (like they did with Southern Mirkwood) when the Hobbit film releases...

    The Silmarillion can be used for "old" places (like Annuminas and Fornost) and possibly with flash-back stories (like the Moria "Discovering the Balrog" one).

  • gavvinggavving Member Posts: 51

    We all pat each other on the back and say "Good job!".  Then everyone retires to beach front houses in Gondor, and we move on to the next game. 

    Cause honestly at their current rate that's at least 3 years away.  I'll be suprised if Rohan makes it this year, it should, but you never know.  Then Gondor can be at least 2 expansions.  Mordor could be split up as well.  By then it'll be 2015, lol.

     

  • SlyLoKSlyLoK Member RarePosts: 2,698

    I honestly done think the game will be around long enough to get to the point where the ring is destroyed. My bet is Turbine will have moved on to something new and if LoTRO is still around at that time then it probably wont have much support behind it.

    LoTR was supposed to be Turbines golden ticket but they severely over estimated the lores draw. Just IMO but they should have put that game setting as AFTER the ring was destroyed.

  • darklockdarklock Member Posts: 6

    does lotro have the rights to Silmarillion? everything i have read said that they do not. the info i have is from 09' but i have not found anything saying the family has changed their mind about giving out the rights.

  • donaldduckdonaldduck Member UncommonPosts: 158

    Its highly unlikely LOTRO will even be around by then - they are already struggling now trying to keep players happy in deserted towns and quests chains.

    The more expansions they make the thinner the population spread is and the longer it takes for new players to grind through empty content. By the time Frodo gets to Mordor I'd imagine another 4/5 expansions would have come out and max lvl will be close to 100 - unfortunately the population just isn't large enough to play this kind of content and most importantly fund Turbine making it.

    Plus the graphics, (especially models which already do) will look so horribly outdated in the next five+ years will anyone even want to still play this?

  • ThillianThillian Member UncommonPosts: 3,156

    The game probably won't survive until then. There's already too many lifetimers playing which pay no monthly subscription, and in the following years it's gonna be even worse. They will have to rely on extremly frequent paid expansions with little content -- exactly what SoM was.

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  • JeroKaneJeroKane Member EpicPosts: 6,965
    Originally posted by Thillian


    The game probably won't survive until then. There's already too many lifetimers playing which pay no monthly subscription, and in the following years it's gonna be even worse. They will have to rely on extremly frequent paid expansions with little content -- exactly what SoM was.



     

    This really.

    The current pace of content updates is so extremely low at the moment. Compaired to the first two years up till Mines of Moria.

    That it will take at least 10-12 years till they end up in Mordor. 

    DDO Unlimited is Turbine's new succesful cash cow that gets their prime attention at the moment.

    So no. I don't think we will ever see Mordor in LOTRO.

  • ThillianThillian Member UncommonPosts: 3,156
    Originally posted by Guillermo197

    Originally posted by Thillian


    The game probably won't survive until then. There's already too many lifetimers playing which pay no monthly subscription, and in the following years it's gonna be even worse. They will have to rely on extremly frequent paid expansions with little content -- exactly what SoM was.

    So no. I don't think we will ever see Mordor in LOTRO.



     

    They might be preparing Lotro to go F2P as well as DDo with microtransactions. The recent GATING radiance system which artificially locks players from reaching certain areas/zones might be an indication of such a move.

    The whole world is made of extremly narrow transitions between zones (usually a bridge or a narrow path surrounded by impassable terrain), so it wouldn't make them a problem to lock certain passages for F2P players.

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  • RobsolfRobsolf Member RarePosts: 4,607
    Originally posted by Toquio3


    ...when Frodo gets to mordor and destroys the ring? This has always been my concern with the game and lately, more than ever, it feels like the game has always had an expiration date.
    So, what do you think will happen to the game when the Return of the King finally concludes?



    As far as the books go, the fellowship is in Lorien now, almost 3 years since launch.  That's not quite to the end of FotR.

    This is the part I think most people are missing: 

    NOW consider that about two thirds of THAT was available on launch day, 3 years ago.  Up to, "The Ring Goes South".

    So, as far as expansions go, they've gone not even a THIRD of FotR in 3 years. 

    If you do the math for that speed of progress, they'll be in Mordor in... 18 YEARS.  If the game makes it that long, it can be said that the lifers got their moneys worth.

    Methinx they've got plenty of material to expand on.  And as others have said, there's The Lonely Mountain, North Mirkwood, no shortage of places to revisit from the Silmarilian, etc.

  • rendusrendus Member UncommonPosts: 329

     But the areas where the TT and ROTK take place are smaller than the playable map of Eriador.  

    To put off Mordor for 18 years means they'll have to release an awful lot of padded content from the Brown lands and all the other blank spots on the map.  Do people want that?

     

  • Einherjar_LCEinherjar_LC Member UncommonPosts: 1,055
    Originally posted by Loktofeit


    That's quite a while off, but their license includes rights to the Similawhatevergeekworditis so the story they have access to extends well beyond the ring.



     

    This is not accurate.

     

    Turbine only has rights to the LOTR trilogy and The Hobbit.

     

    The have no other license rights to any other works by JRR Tolkien, including Silmarillion.

     

    As for the OP.

     

    Turbine has free reign after the ring is destroyed as middle earth moves into the 4th age, the age of men.  There are no literary or licensing restrictions at that point and Turbine is free to interpret the 4th age how they see fit.

     

     

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  • SlyLoKSlyLoK Member RarePosts: 2,698
    Originally posted by Einherjar_LC

    Originally posted by Loktofeit


    That's quite a while off, but their license includes rights to the Similawhatevergeekworditis so the story they have access to extends well beyond the ring.



     

    This is not accurate.

     

    Turbine only has rights to the LOTR trilogy and The Hobbit.

     

    The have no other license rights to any other works by JRR Tolkien, including Silmarillion.

     

    As for the OP.

     

    Turbine has free reign after the ring is destroyed as middle earth moves into the 4th age, the age of men.  There are no literary or licensing restrictions at that point and Turbine is free to interpret the 4th age how they see fit.

     

     

     

    Which is what they should have done in the first place.. Isnt that what they were going to do when the game was called MIddle Earth?

  • drbaltazardrbaltazar Member UncommonPosts: 7,856

    hell!just THE HOBBIT! it self is a big story !i reqad the book and i can tell you theres a lot more content in the books the we saw i the lord of the ring movie.way more

    so if the mmo maker stick to the book hell we re at least 10 from the first time this mmo was released to the end of what is in those book.

    after the ring is destroyed lot of stuff happens in the book that was cut off or shortened to sillyness.when they come back they had to fight in their own area of the world also wich wasnt shown in the movie and countless other stuff that would too long to describe here

    but suffice it to say ,the movie miss about 40% of what is actually going on in the book!

  • Einherjar_LCEinherjar_LC Member UncommonPosts: 1,055
    Originally posted by SlyLoK

    Originally posted by Einherjar_LC

    Originally posted by Loktofeit


    That's quite a while off, but their license includes rights to the Similawhatevergeekworditis so the story they have access to extends well beyond the ring.



     

    This is not accurate.

     

    Turbine only has rights to the LOTR trilogy and The Hobbit.

     

    The have no other license rights to any other works by JRR Tolkien, including Silmarillion.

     

    As for the OP.

     

    Turbine has free reign after the ring is destroyed as middle earth moves into the 4th age, the age of men.  There are no literary or licensing restrictions at that point and Turbine is free to interpret the 4th age how they see fit.

     

     

     

    Which is what they should have done in the first place.. Isnt that what they were going to do when the game was called MIddle Earth?

    I am not familiar with MEO(Middle Earth Online) other than it was much more sandbox than LOTRO.

     

    I'm not sure a free open world would be more of a draw than interacting with the world during the time of Frodo and the Fellowship especially considering the game was released on the heels of the final movie in the LOTR trilogy.

     

    Some surmise the reasoning for the direction of the game as of late is to draw it closer to areas that people will recognize when The Hobbit movies are released.

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  • PoopyStuffPoopyStuff Member Posts: 297

    Who cares?

     

    go back to killing bears for 10 levels.

     

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