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Worth it starting out with Dominion?

RigonnRigonn Member Posts: 79

 I'd be new to the game even though I have tried it before. Never gotten into it due to the fact that my attention was set on WoW. Is there anything I should read before playing or is it pretty much self-explanatory if I begin with the tutorial? If it IS in fact worth beginning now, anyone have a 21-Day Trial? PM Me! :)

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  • throckmortonthrockmorton Member Posts: 314

    Eve is a completely different experience from any other MMO you have played. The tutorial will help with the basics, but it's really boring, and there is so much more to the game.

    I recommend Eve University http://www.eve-ivy.com if you want to make the learning curve much more manageable.

  • RigonnRigonn Member Posts: 79

     Ok, i'll check that out asap. Now one other question if I may... Let's say I get the 21 day trial, if by chance i'm halfway through the trial and I decide to buy do I get to finish the trial to begin with the next Free 30 days or does it just skip onto the 30 Days?

  • CavissiCavissi Member Posts: 42

    If you are starting out i highly suggest you read this guide

    eve.battleclinic.com/guide/3510-BattleClinic-s-EVE-New-Player-Guide.html

    its pretty long but very useful.

    Also, if you have not yet gotten a 21 day trial pm me.

  • LynxJSALynxJSA Member RarePosts: 3,332

    Also check out the EVE Career Guide

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  • MalcanisMalcanis Member UncommonPosts: 3,297
    Originally posted by Rigonn


     I'd be new to the game even though I have tried it before. Never gotten into it due to the fact that my attention was set on WoW. Is there anything I should read before playing or is it pretty much self-explanatory if I begin with the tutorial? If it IS in fact worth beginning now, anyone have a 21-Day Trial? PM Me! :)

     

    There's a hell of a lot about EvE that isn't self explainatory, but you should definitely do the tutorial.

    As said above, EvE isn't like other MMOs, and a lot of things you'd take for granted or that seem obvious will not apply. The best way to approach it is to forget everything you learned in any other MMO.

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  • EleazarosEleazaros Member UncommonPosts: 206
    Originally posted by Malcanis

    Originally posted by Rigonn


     I'd be new to the game even though I have tried it before. Never gotten into it due to the fact that my attention was set on WoW. Is there anything I should read before playing or is it pretty much self-explanatory if I begin with the tutorial? If it IS in fact worth beginning now, anyone have a 21-Day Trial? PM Me! :)

     

    There's a hell of a lot about EvE that isn't self explainatory, but you should definitely do the tutorial.

    As said above, EvE isn't like other MMOs, and a lot of things you'd take for granted or that seem obvious will not apply. The best way to approach it is to forget everything you learned in any other MMO.

     

    What he said.

    Think of the tutorials more like you would the "early gear up" from being naked in stand-alone games where you have to pick up that first box of gear or you don't have anything to work with.  The tutorials give you starting skills, books, equipment and ships that add value as you go forward in the game.

    Don't expect to be "level 80 in a month" style play in EVE.  EVE's training is timer based but you CAN catch up to the top players with respect to skills at using different ships/equipment.  You just can't catch up to the variety they'll be able to use really well so a 1 year vet can match the abilities of a 5 year vet in this or that given ship but not across a wider selection of ships/fittings is all. 

    The longer you play, the more options you'll have available for how to play.  The skills and ships have effective "level caps" that are obtainable with enough training.  Thus you can and will "catch up" over time so it's not "too late" to join -- ever -- and the sooner one starts, the sooner one begins to build those skills to "catch up" to the vets.

  • RigonnRigonn Member Posts: 79

     That's awsome, really appreciate it. One more thing I had to ask, I've read that joining a Corporation is important to enhance my experience in Eve. How so? Is it like a Guild? How does it work? Where can I find one?

  • metalhead980metalhead980 Member Posts: 2,658
    Originally posted by Rigonn


     That's awsome, really appreciate it. One more thing I had to ask, I've read that joining a Corporation is important to enhance my experience in Eve. How so? Is it like a Guild? How does it work? Where can I find one?

     

    A corp is a guild basically. Corps can join other corps to make alliances.

    To join one simply join the recruitment chat channel.

    I would also suggest trying to join Eve university, they will train you in all things Eve so You will have a better understanding of the game and fully understand what you want out of Eve and what to look for in a player corporation.

     

    You can easily ruin your gameplay experience by joining the wrong corp.

     

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  • trentonxtrentonx Member Posts: 147

    FOR ONE MORE HOUR EVE IS ONLY 5$ on STEAM FOR A NEW ACCOUNT!

    go go go go go go!

    You get 51 days for5$, you can't beat it.

     

    sahme on you guys for not pointing this out to him. :P it's up all day!

  • GalaxoGalaxo Member UncommonPosts: 389
    Originally posted by Rigonn


     I'd be new to the game even though I have tried it before. Never gotten into it due to the fact that my attention was set on WoW. Is there anything I should read before playing or is it pretty much self-explanatory if I begin with the tutorial? If it IS in fact worth beginning now, anyone have a 21-Day Trial? PM Me! :)



    If you hurry you can buy the game with 5E from steam.

  • RigonnRigonn Member Posts: 79

     Can't get it... have no way to actually pay it right now. Anyways only 1 hour 30 Min Left. I do have a New AoC CD Key i'd happily trade for this being sent as a gift.... ^^

  • RigonnRigonn Member Posts: 79

     One other thing, i've seen that there is a program called EVEMon that helps follow my character progression a bit easier. Should I get it, if so, anything else I should get?

  • GdemamiGdemami Member EpicPosts: 12,342


    Originally posted by Rigonn
     One other thing, i've seen that there is a program called EVEMon that helps follow my character progression a bit easier. Should I get it, if so, anything else I should get?

    EFT - EVE Fitting Tool.

    That will help you to make up fits and get a hint what skills to train.

  • OldBikerOldBiker Member Posts: 75

    All of the responses above are great advice.

    EveMon is a must have for Eve.  Without it I would forget to login and manage my skill queue.

    EFT is great for experimenting with ship builds but I read somewhere the EveHQ has a better (more up to date) fitting tool.

    You will start out with two free neural remaps (stat reallocation).  EveMon can tell you what the best allocation for your skill plan is but use the 2nd remap wisely.  You won't be able to remap for a year after you use it.  Learning skills are boring to train initially but they pay off in the end.  Try to train them up as early as possible and get yourself some cheap implants as soon as you can. 

    The tutorial is a bit boring but it is worth doing for the gear, skills, and implants.  You should have a few hundred mil in your wallet if you take the time to do all the tutorial quests.

    Definitely join a training corp like Eve University ASAP.  After a couple months in E-UNI there are a lot of 0.0 corps that will accept you into their ranks.

     

  • EtypeEtype Member Posts: 52

    You must know that Eve is an investment, but unlike Wall Street, you're guaranteed a return.. The more you put in, the more you get out.  I cannot emphasis enough how wonderful of an experience Eve will become.  Once you cross the first few learning thresholds, and you go to Jita or Dodixie for your first big shopping trip and you see the auctioning , trading, scamming, and politicking the size and scope of this game will start to hit you. 

     

    As far as advice goes, you've had some great responses. But one thing I would add is the importance of setting a goal. Decide early what area you;d like to pursue and train for it.  Evemon, like you said,  is an awesome tool for making those plans.

    I'm still marveling at its genius, I'm still learning, and I still feel like a complete newb. Its awesome.

    Enjoy the video. Its a dramatic recount of real events that took place in Eve.

  • wadayawadaya Member Posts: 3

    You can also pay for your subscription with ingame currency, which you can't do with alot of other games. I am hooked on the time based skill training system. Even when I get burned out for awhile, I can go play another game, but my character keeps training skills, which is nice.

  • KtarzusKtarzus Member Posts: 4

    Just remember, Eve is vast in both actual game size, and knowledge. I have been playing on and off (mostly on) since Jan. 2004 and I still come across things that are new to me. It is a great game, but prepare to be overwhelmed at times. But to be honest, that is what makes it unique, ie superior to other mmos.

     

    The only other advice I can give you, is to join a Corp. asap and to NOT be attached to your ingame possessions, for sooner or later, you will lose them!

     

    With the new x-pak launching today, it would be the perfect time to start... or return. If you still need a 21 day pass, send me a pm and I will hook you up!

  • howardbhowardb Member Posts: 286

    I don't know if I would recommend EVE for anyone not interested in PvP. I guess it's also got one of the - if not the - best market and crafting mechanism seen in any MMO to date. What I'm trying to say is PvE is basically a means to PvP. At least for me it is as PvE is repetitive and uninspiring.

    I never was particuarly interested in PvP in MMO's before I started playing EVE. For a long time I thought it was because of me, but after playing EVE since 2006 I've discovered it's not me, it's the other MMO's out there. In EVE there's real consequences for failure. You won't just respawn at a respawn area ready to carry on like before. There isn't a partial loot drop. If you get shot up you loose your ship and everything you carried, end of story and that's that. If they pod you and you haven't bought an up to date clone you loose skill points. This game is brutal in that regard.

    Oh and when I think of it there is a partial loot drop. You drop everything that the explosion didn't destroy, but you will never see it because it's the spoils of the victor :D

    EVE Online is the game I've been playing for the longest period of my life. I have taken a few small vacations, but I've always returned. To answer your question: Yes it's worth starting out with Dominion. Skilling up doesn't take too long. My alt is a little over a year now and she's got about 16m SP already.

  • cosycosy Member UncommonPosts: 3,228
    Originally posted by Rigonn


     Is there anything I should read before playing


    you can read this 800 pages pdf

    http://eve-files.com/dl/153495

    atm that will be sufficient

     

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  • OldBikerOldBiker Member Posts: 75
    Originally posted by howardb


    I don't know if I would recommend EVE for anyone not interested in PvP.

     

    I somewhat agree but using the term PvP doesn't really give people the right impression about Eve.  Eve is, at its core, a game where players struggle against other players but that struggle takes on many forms.  Whether it is massive strategic battles pitting thousands of real people against each other for the control of space or single combat or piracy, combat PvP is varied.  Then you have market competitions and fending off salvage pirates who scan you down to steal the spoils from your mission sites.  The list goes on and on. 

    So to add to what howardb said I wouldn't recommend Eve for anyone not interested in competition.  Eve is conflict and it is not for the faint of heart.  Eve will take you through a range of emotions that you have never experienced from a video game before.  Once you cross the threshold and truly see the realities of New Eden you will never be satisfied with lesser games for long.

  • astrob0yastrob0y Member Posts: 702

    try it out. im currently redoing the turtorial and im enjoying my second visit in eve. a grand game that really is not like a game you have played before. im now watching my low tech ship harvesting a astroid with the nice tunes "seek and you will find" in the headphones :) 

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  • CortechsCortechs Member Posts: 40

    I am also interested in giving Eve a shot, and wanted to go the Eve University route.  Would you recommend that I fully complete the tutorials first (of which I understand there are lots of missions) or would it be better to go straight to joining?

    Also, if I don't have huge aspirations for playing the market, but would be more interested in the other aspects surrounding it (pvp, escorting, whatever), I would be okay, yes?  :)

    It just seems like over the years any time I have read any discussion about Eve it has sounded more like an online stock market than an actual game, which sorta turned me off.

  • howardbhowardb Member Posts: 286

    For me EVE is all about PvP. I've tried playing the market and it's relatively easy to make money if you find the right areas to stock up, but it's too much like a regular job for me. If you want to PvP, escort or eh..  whatever EVE is definately the game for you. Think of EVE as a huge sandbox with unparalled many tools compared to other MMO's. You can whatever you want within the universe.

  • metalhead980metalhead980 Member Posts: 2,658
    Originally posted by Cortechs


    I am also interested in giving Eve a shot, and wanted to go the Eve University route.  Would you recommend that I fully complete the tutorials first (of which I understand there are lots of missions) or would it be better to go straight to joining?
    Also, if I don't have huge aspirations for playing the market, but would be more interested in the other aspects surrounding it (pvp, escorting, whatever), I would be okay, yes?  :)
    It just seems like over the years any time I have read any discussion about Eve it has sounded more like an online stock market than an actual game, which sorta turned me off.

     

    Do all 5 tutorial arcs and the epic arc. This gives you an understanding of basic mechanics and starts you off with a few million isk and free skill books, modules and ships.

    Once you do that its up to you.

    PLaying: EvE, Ryzom

    Waiting For: Earthrise, Perpetuum

  • Jairoe03Jairoe03 Member Posts: 732
    Originally posted by Rigonn


     I'd be new to the game even though I have tried it before. Never gotten into it due to the fact that my attention was set on WoW. Is there anything I should read before playing or is it pretty much self-explanatory if I begin with the tutorial? If it IS in fact worth beginning now, anyone have a 21-Day Trial? PM Me! :)

     

    I would say its definitely a game you can just jump into. Very strategy oriented in many aspects but very in depth on many aspects as well whether you're talking about the economy, manufacturing, 1 on 1 to fleet combat etc. I think the multiple facets within the game and the many niches you can fill make this game easy to become useful in. The most important tip I can give you with EVE is to find a corporation that fits you ASAP and just learn from other people. This game is one of the few where knowledge is literally power and its never a waste to read guides/forums about a particular part of the game (there's really a lot of parts). The community ultimate (at least for me) is what makes it and it what gets me to keep playing knowing that they're there to hang out and chill with me ;)

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