You know there were some of us on these forums before the game came out that were telling potential players that Aion was just like any other Asian grinder. We were laughed at and called haters and told to go crawl back under whatever rock we came from. The truth is now coming out. Not that I like doing this. BUT SOME OF US TOLD YOU SO!
No it is not a grind, people are already in the early 40s. >_<
This is a MMO. The reason for the grind is $$$ and it ain't going away. I have seen many threads about this subject since the game was in beta and still some people are in denial. Honey moon is over already? The only way to not feel you are grinding like there is no tomorrow is by grouping and having fun in the moment and forget you need to hit max level by next weekend.
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You know there were some of us on these forums before the game came out that were telling potential players that Aion was just like any other Asian grinder. We were laughed at and called haters and told to go crawl back under whatever rock we came from. The truth is now coming out. Not that I like doing this. BUT SOME OF US TOLD YOU SO!
We laughed at you and we will STILL laugh at you... nothing has changed, only your perception.
You know there were some of us on these forums before the game came out that were telling potential players that Aion was just like any other Asian grinder. We were laughed at and called haters and told to go crawl back under whatever rock we came from. The truth is now coming out. Not that I like doing this. BUT SOME OF US TOLD YOU SO!
No it is not a grind, people are already in the early 40s. >_<
Precisely. Apparently people have already lost hold on reason. If the levels aren't given to them in the first week it's a grind.
Lineage 2, Archlord, Shaiya, those are grindy games.
Aion? It does default to a lot of kill x quests (god, how many times I've written that today in explantion) but just as many as LOTRO or WoW.
Today, I"m over halfway through 30 and I got 29-30 all day yesterday. granted, I did play in earnest but still, getting a lvl that is more than halfway through the leveling curve in a day, even played hardcore is not that grindy. Might take an average casual player 2 or 3 days to do that. I think that's acceptable since the game has been out for 2 weeks.
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It is a grind. Your casual gamer isn't going to play 10+ hrs a day. The people getting to 40 are you players that will sit and play for 6+ hrs a day. Tell the truth. Once you hit a certain level like say 10, the time it takes increases expotentially. By the time you hit 20 it is getting up there. Those people in their 40's are having to grind a few days to gain one level. So that means sitting in a chair for 10+ hrs a day everyday to go anywhere. Will they hit 50 by the end of the month. Yep. If they do nothing but game all the time.
If anyone here says they are casual gamer and are in their 40's all ready they are full of it.
It is a grind. Your casual gamer isn't going to play 10+ hrs a day. The people getting to 40 are you players that will sit and play for 6+ hrs a day. Tell the truth. Once you hit a certain level like say 10, the time it takes increases expotentially. By the time you hit 20 it is getting up there. Those people in their 40's are having to grind a few days to gain one level. So that means sitting in a chair for 10+ hrs a day everyday to go anywhere. Will they hit 50 by the end of the month. Yep. If they do nothing but game all the time. If anyone here says they are casual gamer and are in their 40's all ready they are full of it.
Same thing can be said about WoW and the people who get to 80 in 2 weeks or so.
Game has the same levelling curve as WoW 1-80 (give or take)
Anyone who says Aion is more grindy than WoW is full of it.
It is a grind. Your casual gamer isn't going to play 10+ hrs a day. The people getting to 40 are you players that will sit and play for 6+ hrs a day. Tell the truth. Once you hit a certain level like say 10, the time it takes increases expotentially. By the time you hit 20 it is getting up there. Those people in their 40's are having to grind a few days to gain one level. So that means sitting in a chair for 10+ hrs a day everyday to go anywhere. Will they hit 50 by the end of the month. Yep. If they do nothing but game all the time. If anyone here says they are casual gamer and are in their 40's all ready they are full of it.
Teala, I've never said I was a casual gamer. And if your read what I said you would see that it would take a casual gamer 2 or 3 days to go from 29 to 30. Given that that is more than halfway through the leveling curve I think that's acceptable.
If people are trying to say that they should lvl 2 levels each day or more (for example) then that's less than a month sorry, but once you go into that mode of thinking you essentially want it handed to you.
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It is a grind. Your casual gamer isn't going to play 10+ hrs a day. The people getting to 40 are you players that will sit and play for 6+ hrs a day. Tell the truth. Once you hit a certain level like say 10, the time it takes increases expotentially. By the time you hit 20 it is getting up there. Those people in their 40's are having to grind a few days to gain one level. So that means sitting in a chair for 10+ hrs a day everyday to go anywhere. Will they hit 50 by the end of the month. Yep. If they do nothing but game all the time. If anyone here says they are casual gamer and are in their 40's all ready they are full of it.
Mmm... no - but most casuals are already close to 30...
So - what does that say? They'll get to level cap in about 2, 2 1/2 month
I don't see your argument at all.... and, you do realize there are TONS to do from 40-50, right?
You made your point, you don't want to work for anything (Yet.. play EVE - and need to wait a month before you can even properly fly a cruiser... lol).... ohhhhhh the irony...
It is a grind. Your casual gamer isn't going to play 10+ hrs a day. The people getting to 40 are you players that will sit and play for 6+ hrs a day. Tell the truth. Once you hit a certain level like say 10, the time it takes increases expotentially. By the time you hit 20 it is getting up there. Those people in their 40's are having to grind a few days to gain one level. So that means sitting in a chair for 10+ hrs a day everyday to go anywhere. Will they hit 50 by the end of the month. Yep. If they do nothing but game all the time. If anyone here says they are casual gamer and are in their 40's all ready they are full of it.
Same thing can be said about WoW and the people who get to 80 in 2 weeks or so.
Game has the same levelling curve as WoW 1-80 (give or take)
Anyone who says Aion is more grindy than WoW is full of it.
It is a grind. Your casual gamer isn't going to play 10+ hrs a day. The people getting to 40 are you players that will sit and play for 6+ hrs a day. Tell the truth. Once you hit a certain level like say 10, the time it takes increases expotentially. By the time you hit 20 it is getting up there. Those people in their 40's are having to grind a few days to gain one level. So that means sitting in a chair for 10+ hrs a day everyday to go anywhere. Will they hit 50 by the end of the month. Yep. If they do nothing but game all the time. If anyone here says they are casual gamer and are in their 40's all ready they are full of it.
Same thing can be said about WoW and the people who get to 80 in 2 weeks or so.
Game has the same levelling curve as WoW 1-80 (give or take)
Anyone who says Aion is more grindy than WoW is full of it.
It is a grind. Your casual gamer isn't going to play 10+ hrs a day. The people getting to 40 are you players that will sit and play for 6+ hrs a day. Tell the truth. Once you hit a certain level like say 10, the time it takes increases expotentially. By the time you hit 20 it is getting up there. Those people in their 40's are having to grind a few days to gain one level. So that means sitting in a chair for 10+ hrs a day everyday to go anywhere. Will they hit 50 by the end of the month. Yep. If they do nothing but game all the time. If anyone here says they are casual gamer and are in their 40's all ready they are full of it.
Same thing can be said about WoW and the people who get to 80 in 2 weeks or so.
Game has the same levelling curve as WoW 1-80 (give or take)
Anyone who says Aion is more grindy than WoW is full of it.
LOL! Not even! Sorry SF.
LOL! What....im lost here.
He (she?) is saying it isn't as grindy as WoW
People like this are hopeless man.. its pointless to argue because - just like my 17 year old cousin "knows everything"
WoW and Aion are about the same leveling wise from 1-80 to 1-50... and that's a fact.
It is a grind. Your casual gamer isn't going to play 10+ hrs a day. The people getting to 40 are you players that will sit and play for 6+ hrs a day. Tell the truth. Once you hit a certain level like say 10, the time it takes increases expotentially. By the time you hit 20 it is getting up there. Those people in their 40's are having to grind a few days to gain one level. So that means sitting in a chair for 10+ hrs a day everyday to go anywhere. Will they hit 50 by the end of the month. Yep. If they do nothing but game all the time. If anyone here says they are casual gamer and are in their 40's all ready they are full of it.
Same thing can be said about WoW and the people who get to 80 in 2 weeks or so.
Game has the same levelling curve as WoW 1-80 (give or take)
Anyone who says Aion is more grindy than WoW is full of it.
LOL! Not even! Sorry SF.
LOL! What....im lost here.
I am too. I was going to ask her to explain herself but meh, going to get food.
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I'm not going to argue, the numerous post on this subject that have been cropping up since launch is telling enough. More and more will show up - and you know what - that will say it all. LOL!
This game has already went through thousands of changes to please the western market. I don't see why they should change everything else. At this point, they might as well call it World of Warcraft: Aion Mod
I understand the reasoning behind though. Grind does suck for many but this is what the game is. It's AION.
Its REALLY simple, so Ill spell it out for you. If you don't like a level game (IE: 1 to X) then don't play it and play something like EVE/Darkfall
If you don't like skill based games, then you just don't like MMO's and you are trying to like something you just don't. EVERY MMO has a grind, especially the level based games.
Not to mention, the game has been out what... 2 weeks? And there are already many people who are 40+? Wow - that's some grind. A month to get to level cap (as a hardcore player) and a 3 months as a casal. Seriously just stop failing and shut it - Im so fucking tired of these posts every god damn day.
On some levels I agree with you the game is two weeks old and to be level forty can be looked at as excessive play but I don't make it a habit of trying to tell people how to enjoy their game. But what I can also say is if the numbers of people even you yourself admit feel the game is too light on content in the form of quests it's something that should in fact be addressed by the company and any company with sense would feel the same way, they certainly wouldn't take the opinion that you do. Posts like this as well as those on the games official forums help the devs learn just as well that their is something that needs to be fixed in a game. And as stated above by another poster you can apply the same logic and advice you give if you don't like the thread don't read it.
but yeah, to call this game Fantastic is like calling Twilight the Godfather of vampire movies....
This game has already went through thousands of changes to please the western market. I don't see why they should change everything else. At this point, they might as well call it World of Warcraft: Aion Mod I understand the reasoning behind though. Grind does suck for many but this is what the game is. It's AION.
It is very similar to WOW, including the grind. If anything, WOW is more "grind friendly" as the XP is much better solo than grouped.
I'm not going to argue, the numerous post on this subject that have been cropping up since launch is telling enough. More and more will show up - and you know what - that will say it all. LOL!
What it tells me is that Aion was attractive to players who were used to a game that was much easier to level in. They then had a rude awakening as all games don't allow you to zip up to top lvl in a few weeks.
Like Skyrim? Need more content? Try my Skyrim mod "Godfred's Tomb."
Whatever, I bet if this game was made by a western company nobody would be complaining about grind at all.....I think it is just the narrow minded few who think this game is a grind just because it has Asian producers.
I'm not going to argue, the numerous post on this subject that have been cropping up since launch is telling enough. More and more will show up - and you know what - that will say it all. LOL!
What it tells me is that Aion was attractive to players who were used to a game that was much easier to level in. They then had a rude awakening as all games don't allow you to zip up to top lvl in a few weeks.
How does having enough quests translate into an easier experience? Given lore and quests we tend to use quest to yes suppliment our killing of mobs with an extra boost to exp. I don't play Aion but my question to you is are mobs just more difficult in Aion? I haven't heard that but it is the only logic behind what you just said that having to mindlessly kill the same mobs over and over is more difficult. What my experience is is that the only difficulty in playing a game that has the type of grind Aion is accused of is difficulty in staying logged in and I don't know many people who would call that fun.
but yeah, to call this game Fantastic is like calling Twilight the Godfather of vampire movies....
Its REALLY simple, so Ill spell it out for you. If you don't like a level game (IE: 1 to X) then don't play it and play something like EVE/Darkfall
If you don't like skill based games, then you just don't like MMO's and you are trying to like something you just don't. EVERY MMO has a grind, especially the level based games.
Not to mention, the game has been out what... 2 weeks? And there are already many people who are 40+? Wow - that's some grind. A month to get to level cap (as a hardcore player) and a 3 months as a casal. Seriously just stop failing and shut it - Im so fucking tired of these posts every god damn day.
On some levels I agree with you the game is two weeks old and to be level forty can be looked at as excessive play but I don't make it a habit of trying to tell people how to enjoy their game. But what I can also say is if the numbers of people even you yourself admit feel the game is too light on content in the form of quests it's something that should in fact be addressed by the company and any company with sense would feel the same way, they certainly wouldn't take the opinion that you do. Posts like this as well as those on the games official forums help the devs learn just as well that their is something that needs to be fixed in a game. And as stated above by another poster you can apply the same logic and advice you give if you don't like the thread don't read it.
I totally agree with you... but the developers know their own issues with their game better than any/all of us do....
They know its a bit of work to level to 50... and Im sure this was working as intended...
I just lol when ppl say "WoW is the best game evar - no grind - just level level level"... makes me want to smash my head against a wall.
Its REALLY simple, so Ill spell it out for you. If you don't like a level game (IE: 1 to X) then don't play it and play something like EVE/Darkfall
If you don't like skill based games, then you just don't like MMO's and you are trying to like something you just don't. EVERY MMO has a grind, especially the level based games.
Not to mention, the game has been out what... 2 weeks? And there are already many people who are 40+? Wow - that's some grind. A month to get to level cap (as a hardcore player) and a 3 months as a casal. Seriously just stop failing and shut it - Im so fucking tired of these posts every god damn day.
On some levels I agree with you the game is two weeks old and to be level forty can be looked at as excessive play but I don't make it a habit of trying to tell people how to enjoy their game. But what I can also say is if the numbers of people even you yourself admit feel the game is too light on content in the form of quests it's something that should in fact be addressed by the company and any company with sense would feel the same way, they certainly wouldn't take the opinion that you do. Posts like this as well as those on the games official forums help the devs learn just as well that their is something that needs to be fixed in a game. And as stated above by another poster you can apply the same logic and advice you give if you don't like the thread don't read it.
I totally agree with you... but the developers know their own issues with their game better than any/all of us do....
They know its a bit of work to level to 50... and Im sure this was working as intended...
I just lol when ppl say "WoW is the best game evar - no grind - just level level level"... makes me want to smash my head against a wall.
But after you grind 80 levels you can grind, what is it, up to 25 dailies everyday?
Its REALLY simple, so Ill spell it out for you. If you don't like a level game (IE: 1 to X) then don't play it and play something like EVE/Darkfall
If you don't like skill based games, then you just don't like MMO's and you are trying to like something you just don't. EVERY MMO has a grind, especially the level based games.
Not to mention, the game has been out what... 2 weeks? And there are already many people who are 40+? Wow - that's some grind. A month to get to level cap (as a hardcore player) and a 3 months as a casal. Seriously just stop failing and shut it - Im so fucking tired of these posts every god damn day.
On some levels I agree with you the game is two weeks old and to be level forty can be looked at as excessive play but I don't make it a habit of trying to tell people how to enjoy their game. But what I can also say is if the numbers of people even you yourself admit feel the game is too light on content in the form of quests it's something that should in fact be addressed by the company and any company with sense would feel the same way, they certainly wouldn't take the opinion that you do. Posts like this as well as those on the games official forums help the devs learn just as well that their is something that needs to be fixed in a game. And as stated above by another poster you can apply the same logic and advice you give if you don't like the thread don't read it.
I totally agree with you... but the developers know their own issues with their game better than any/all of us do....
They know its a bit of work to level to 50... and Im sure this was working as intended...
I just lol when ppl say "WoW is the best game evar - no grind - just level level level"... makes me want to smash my head against a wall.
But after you grind 80 levels you can grind, what is it, up to 25 dailies everyday?
heh heh heh... not to mention the heroics, ONLY to be invited into Raids (because, let's face facts... if you aren't in lower-tier epics you can forget going on a raid)
Its REALLY simple, so Ill spell it out for you. If you don't like a level game (IE: 1 to X) then don't play it and play something like EVE/Darkfall
If you don't like skill based games, then you just don't like MMO's and you are trying to like something you just don't. EVERY MMO has a grind, especially the level based games.
Not to mention, the game has been out what... 2 weeks? And there are already many people who are 40+? Wow - that's some grind. A month to get to level cap (as a hardcore player) and a 3 months as a casal. Seriously just stop failing and shut it - Im so fucking tired of these posts every god damn day.
On some levels I agree with you the game is two weeks old and to be level forty can be looked at as excessive play but I don't make it a habit of trying to tell people how to enjoy their game. But what I can also say is if the numbers of people even you yourself admit feel the game is too light on content in the form of quests it's something that should in fact be addressed by the company and any company with sense would feel the same way, they certainly wouldn't take the opinion that you do. Posts like this as well as those on the games official forums help the devs learn just as well that their is something that needs to be fixed in a game. And as stated above by another poster you can apply the same logic and advice you give if you don't like the thread don't read it.
I totally agree with you... but the developers know their own issues with their game better than any/all of us do....
They know its a bit of work to level to 50... and Im sure this was working as intended...
I just lol when ppl say "WoW is the best game evar - no grind - just level level level"... makes me want to smash my head against a wall.
It would be foolish to assume the developers know their own issues I assure you many an mmo veteran can tell you some do not I have played a few myself where that's the case. And as I mentioned in a later post than yours this I doubt is as the game was intended to work if lot's of people are finding the only way to advance is to run around for little purpose killing things thus finding themselves viewing playing as a chore this is not what the devs intend at all.
The game is well established in the Eastern market which does not have the high quest/content demand of Western mmo's so it is understandable that they underestimated the amount of quests they would need for here but that is simply the issue to appease the average westerner they need more quests if some of you find that is not the case worry not you will not be forced to quest any more than you feel the need to but to think that people wanting that option are wrong is just not the way to go.
Maybe I am in fact part of a dying breed but I would take pride in knowing that my mmo may appeal to more people than less and just because I don't have any problem with the way things run does not mean that there is not room for improvement especially when it is something as simple as this.
but yeah, to call this game Fantastic is like calling Twilight the Godfather of vampire movies....
Maybe I missed it, but I don't remember anyone in this thread saying WoW is the best game ever.
WoW was mentioned, yes... but only to draw a comparison between Aion and a game that actually has enough content for the level treadmill.
It seems like a lot of you are missing the point of my earlier argument. I am not saying that we should level more quickly in Aion. I don't mind a significant level treadmill or working towards a goal. As many of you have already mentioned, this is the core to MMO gameplay. What I do mind is LACK of content along the way. There should be enough quests to level oneself all the way from 1 to 50. There should be NO point in the game where you have to sit in one place and grind the same mobs for 2 days straight (casual style) to level up. That is just not fun and it is evidence of lazy game design.
And before you tell me to go back to <insert your favorite game to bash here>, why don't you actually sit back and consider the points made here. I am not saying that any game is better than Aion. I am not advertising for any other title. I am simply saying that they have some serious issues at the moment which will keep many people from reaching the end game. Once again, I feel that this is a game that was released perhaps a little bit too early... at least for the western market.
It would be one thing if the game was a mob grindfest from the beginning, but they started it out in such a way as to make us all expect that it would be a questing game all the way through. Failing to deliver nearly enough content to meet that expectation is a big failure on NcSoft's part.
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No it is not a grind, people are already in the early 40s. >_<
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Good post Moretrinkets
We laughed at you and we will STILL laugh at you... nothing has changed, only your perception.
Go back to EVE? lol....
No it is not a grind, people are already in the early 40s. >_<
Precisely. Apparently people have already lost hold on reason. If the levels aren't given to them in the first week it's a grind.
Lineage 2, Archlord, Shaiya, those are grindy games.
Aion? It does default to a lot of kill x quests (god, how many times I've written that today in explantion) but just as many as LOTRO or WoW.
Today, I"m over halfway through 30 and I got 29-30 all day yesterday. granted, I did play in earnest but still, getting a lvl that is more than halfway through the leveling curve in a day, even played hardcore is not that grindy. Might take an average casual player 2 or 3 days to do that. I think that's acceptable since the game has been out for 2 weeks.
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It is a grind. Your casual gamer isn't going to play 10+ hrs a day. The people getting to 40 are you players that will sit and play for 6+ hrs a day. Tell the truth. Once you hit a certain level like say 10, the time it takes increases expotentially. By the time you hit 20 it is getting up there. Those people in their 40's are having to grind a few days to gain one level. So that means sitting in a chair for 10+ hrs a day everyday to go anywhere. Will they hit 50 by the end of the month. Yep. If they do nothing but game all the time.
If anyone here says they are casual gamer and are in their 40's all ready they are full of it.
Love it when people that doesn't even play it can predict how aion will be in the future and how people play.
Same thing can be said about WoW and the people who get to 80 in 2 weeks or so.
Game has the same levelling curve as WoW 1-80 (give or take)
Anyone who says Aion is more grindy than WoW is full of it.
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Teala, I've never said I was a casual gamer. And if your read what I said you would see that it would take a casual gamer 2 or 3 days to go from 29 to 30. Given that that is more than halfway through the leveling curve I think that's acceptable.
If people are trying to say that they should lvl 2 levels each day or more (for example) then that's less than a month sorry, but once you go into that mode of thinking you essentially want it handed to you.
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Original Skyrim: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/109547
Serph toze kindly has started a walk-through. https://youtu.be/UIelCK-lldo
Mmm... no - but most casuals are already close to 30...
So - what does that say? They'll get to level cap in about 2, 2 1/2 month
I don't see your argument at all.... and, you do realize there are TONS to do from 40-50, right?
You made your point, you don't want to work for anything (Yet.. play EVE - and need to wait a month before you can even properly fly a cruiser... lol).... ohhhhhh the irony...
Same thing can be said about WoW and the people who get to 80 in 2 weeks or so.
Game has the same levelling curve as WoW 1-80 (give or take)
Anyone who says Aion is more grindy than WoW is full of it.
LOL! Not even! Sorry SF.
Same thing can be said about WoW and the people who get to 80 in 2 weeks or so.
Game has the same levelling curve as WoW 1-80 (give or take)
Anyone who says Aion is more grindy than WoW is full of it.
LOL! Not even! Sorry SF.
LOL! What....im lost here.
March on! - Lets Invade Pekopon
Same thing can be said about WoW and the people who get to 80 in 2 weeks or so.
Game has the same levelling curve as WoW 1-80 (give or take)
Anyone who says Aion is more grindy than WoW is full of it.
LOL! Not even! Sorry SF.
LOL! What....im lost here.
He (she?) is saying it isn't as grindy as WoW
People like this are hopeless man.. its pointless to argue because - just like my 17 year old cousin "knows everything"
WoW and Aion are about the same leveling wise from 1-80 to 1-50... and that's a fact.
Same thing can be said about WoW and the people who get to 80 in 2 weeks or so.
Game has the same levelling curve as WoW 1-80 (give or take)
Anyone who says Aion is more grindy than WoW is full of it.
LOL! Not even! Sorry SF.
LOL! What....im lost here.
I am too. I was going to ask her to explain herself but meh, going to get food.
Godfred's Tomb Trailer: https://youtu.be/-nsXGddj_4w
Original Skyrim: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/109547
Serph toze kindly has started a walk-through. https://youtu.be/UIelCK-lldo
I'm not going to argue, the numerous post on this subject that have been cropping up since launch is telling enough. More and more will show up - and you know what - that will say it all. LOL!
This game has already went through thousands of changes to please the western market. I don't see why they should change everything else. At this point, they might as well call it World of Warcraft: Aion Mod
I understand the reasoning behind though. Grind does suck for many but this is what the game is. It's AION.
On some levels I agree with you the game is two weeks old and to be level forty can be looked at as excessive play but I don't make it a habit of trying to tell people how to enjoy their game. But what I can also say is if the numbers of people even you yourself admit feel the game is too light on content in the form of quests it's something that should in fact be addressed by the company and any company with sense would feel the same way, they certainly wouldn't take the opinion that you do. Posts like this as well as those on the games official forums help the devs learn just as well that their is something that needs to be fixed in a game. And as stated above by another poster you can apply the same logic and advice you give if you don't like the thread don't read it.
but yeah, to call this game Fantastic is like calling Twilight the Godfather of vampire movies....
It is very similar to WOW, including the grind. If anything, WOW is more "grind friendly" as the XP is much better solo than grouped.
What it tells me is that Aion was attractive to players who were used to a game that was much easier to level in. They then had a rude awakening as all games don't allow you to zip up to top lvl in a few weeks.
Godfred's Tomb Trailer: https://youtu.be/-nsXGddj_4w
Original Skyrim: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/109547
Serph toze kindly has started a walk-through. https://youtu.be/UIelCK-lldo
^^
Whatever, I bet if this game was made by a western company nobody would be complaining about grind at all.....I think it is just the narrow minded few who think this game is a grind just because it has Asian producers.
Any NN all...im going to bed.
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What it tells me is that Aion was attractive to players who were used to a game that was much easier to level in. They then had a rude awakening as all games don't allow you to zip up to top lvl in a few weeks.
How does having enough quests translate into an easier experience? Given lore and quests we tend to use quest to yes suppliment our killing of mobs with an extra boost to exp. I don't play Aion but my question to you is are mobs just more difficult in Aion? I haven't heard that but it is the only logic behind what you just said that having to mindlessly kill the same mobs over and over is more difficult. What my experience is is that the only difficulty in playing a game that has the type of grind Aion is accused of is difficulty in staying logged in and I don't know many people who would call that fun.
but yeah, to call this game Fantastic is like calling Twilight the Godfather of vampire movies....
On some levels I agree with you the game is two weeks old and to be level forty can be looked at as excessive play but I don't make it a habit of trying to tell people how to enjoy their game. But what I can also say is if the numbers of people even you yourself admit feel the game is too light on content in the form of quests it's something that should in fact be addressed by the company and any company with sense would feel the same way, they certainly wouldn't take the opinion that you do. Posts like this as well as those on the games official forums help the devs learn just as well that their is something that needs to be fixed in a game. And as stated above by another poster you can apply the same logic and advice you give if you don't like the thread don't read it.
I totally agree with you... but the developers know their own issues with their game better than any/all of us do....
They know its a bit of work to level to 50... and Im sure this was working as intended...
I just lol when ppl say "WoW is the best game evar - no grind - just level level level"... makes me want to smash my head against a wall.
On some levels I agree with you the game is two weeks old and to be level forty can be looked at as excessive play but I don't make it a habit of trying to tell people how to enjoy their game. But what I can also say is if the numbers of people even you yourself admit feel the game is too light on content in the form of quests it's something that should in fact be addressed by the company and any company with sense would feel the same way, they certainly wouldn't take the opinion that you do. Posts like this as well as those on the games official forums help the devs learn just as well that their is something that needs to be fixed in a game. And as stated above by another poster you can apply the same logic and advice you give if you don't like the thread don't read it.
I totally agree with you... but the developers know their own issues with their game better than any/all of us do....
They know its a bit of work to level to 50... and Im sure this was working as intended...
I just lol when ppl say "WoW is the best game evar - no grind - just level level level"... makes me want to smash my head against a wall.
But after you grind 80 levels you can grind, what is it, up to 25 dailies everyday?
On some levels I agree with you the game is two weeks old and to be level forty can be looked at as excessive play but I don't make it a habit of trying to tell people how to enjoy their game. But what I can also say is if the numbers of people even you yourself admit feel the game is too light on content in the form of quests it's something that should in fact be addressed by the company and any company with sense would feel the same way, they certainly wouldn't take the opinion that you do. Posts like this as well as those on the games official forums help the devs learn just as well that their is something that needs to be fixed in a game. And as stated above by another poster you can apply the same logic and advice you give if you don't like the thread don't read it.
I totally agree with you... but the developers know their own issues with their game better than any/all of us do....
They know its a bit of work to level to 50... and Im sure this was working as intended...
I just lol when ppl say "WoW is the best game evar - no grind - just level level level"... makes me want to smash my head against a wall.
But after you grind 80 levels you can grind, what is it, up to 25 dailies everyday?
heh heh heh... not to mention the heroics, ONLY to be invited into Raids (because, let's face facts... if you aren't in lower-tier epics you can forget going on a raid)
On some levels I agree with you the game is two weeks old and to be level forty can be looked at as excessive play but I don't make it a habit of trying to tell people how to enjoy their game. But what I can also say is if the numbers of people even you yourself admit feel the game is too light on content in the form of quests it's something that should in fact be addressed by the company and any company with sense would feel the same way, they certainly wouldn't take the opinion that you do. Posts like this as well as those on the games official forums help the devs learn just as well that their is something that needs to be fixed in a game. And as stated above by another poster you can apply the same logic and advice you give if you don't like the thread don't read it.
I totally agree with you... but the developers know their own issues with their game better than any/all of us do....
They know its a bit of work to level to 50... and Im sure this was working as intended...
I just lol when ppl say "WoW is the best game evar - no grind - just level level level"... makes me want to smash my head against a wall.
It would be foolish to assume the developers know their own issues I assure you many an mmo veteran can tell you some do not I have played a few myself where that's the case. And as I mentioned in a later post than yours this I doubt is as the game was intended to work if lot's of people are finding the only way to advance is to run around for little purpose killing things thus finding themselves viewing playing as a chore this is not what the devs intend at all.
The game is well established in the Eastern market which does not have the high quest/content demand of Western mmo's so it is understandable that they underestimated the amount of quests they would need for here but that is simply the issue to appease the average westerner they need more quests if some of you find that is not the case worry not you will not be forced to quest any more than you feel the need to but to think that people wanting that option are wrong is just not the way to go.
Maybe I am in fact part of a dying breed but I would take pride in knowing that my mmo may appeal to more people than less and just because I don't have any problem with the way things run does not mean that there is not room for improvement especially when it is something as simple as this.
but yeah, to call this game Fantastic is like calling Twilight the Godfather of vampire movies....
Maybe I missed it, but I don't remember anyone in this thread saying WoW is the best game ever.
WoW was mentioned, yes... but only to draw a comparison between Aion and a game that actually has enough content for the level treadmill.
It seems like a lot of you are missing the point of my earlier argument. I am not saying that we should level more quickly in Aion. I don't mind a significant level treadmill or working towards a goal. As many of you have already mentioned, this is the core to MMO gameplay. What I do mind is LACK of content along the way. There should be enough quests to level oneself all the way from 1 to 50. There should be NO point in the game where you have to sit in one place and grind the same mobs for 2 days straight (casual style) to level up. That is just not fun and it is evidence of lazy game design.
And before you tell me to go back to <insert your favorite game to bash here>, why don't you actually sit back and consider the points made here. I am not saying that any game is better than Aion. I am not advertising for any other title. I am simply saying that they have some serious issues at the moment which will keep many people from reaching the end game. Once again, I feel that this is a game that was released perhaps a little bit too early... at least for the western market.
It would be one thing if the game was a mob grindfest from the beginning, but they started it out in such a way as to make us all expect that it would be a questing game all the way through. Failing to deliver nearly enough content to meet that expectation is a big failure on NcSoft's part.